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[[WMG: The BigBad of Season 3 will be...]]
* Mike Weston. He will have finally been driven insane by everything that's happened to him, and will become the kind of monster he's been hunting. Hardy must be called out of retirement to put him down, and much Angst will ensue.

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[[WMG: The great plan involves Carroll turning Hardy into a great detective so that he can twist him into becoming a great villain.]]
Carroll will fill Hardy's team with his followers who's goal is to help Hardy and become his followers. The idea is that Hardy will become this great hero for 'stopping' Carroll and his followers only for Carroll (and his followers) to reveal that Hardy is supposedly the true mastermind (his team revealing themselves as cultists, statements showing how Hardy seemingly figured improbable things out, etc). The end result is that Hardy is both disgraced and perhaps pushed over the edge such that Hardy must become what Carroll wants him to be in order to win and stop Carroll - that is, Hardy is imprisoned and must recruit his own illicit following to fight Carroll's.
* That would be agonizing but really great.



[[WMG: The show's creators are Tropers.]]
Although they'd probably never admit it.
* Oh they'd admit it. Then they'd probably kill you.

[[WMG: Mike is Emma's brother.]]
They look a bit alike. They could be long-lost siblings, or something.
* Given what we've seen of her backstory, this seems unlikely.

[[WMG: Olivia's fate.]]
She will either be ordered to commit public suicide, suicide on her own terms, or be murdered in defiance against Carrol. It will most likely be the first two, seeing Carrol is practically manipulating into destroying her life.
* [[spoiler: Partially confirmed -- Carroll ''does'' kill her, but not because of defiance. [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness He just didn't need her anymore.]]]]

[[WMG: Joey will be the SpannerInTheWorks that brings down Carroll once and for all.]]
* Joe's already having trouble with the fact that Joey didn't immediately warm up to him, so there's probably something to this.
* Confirmed, in a roundabout way. There were a lot of spanners.

[[WMG: At some point, Carroll is going to break The Fourth Wall.]]
Maybe in a season or series finale, he will address the audience directly and give them a YouBastard speech. It will go something like this:
-->"Well now, did you enjoy that? I hope you have. And now you've seen the point of my greatest work. These people have died, some of them horribly, for your pleasure. I have killed, and I have made others kill, all for your entertainment. You have enjoyed the drama I have created, you have tuned in faithfully, you have clamored for more...and in so doing, you all have become my accomplices. You have played your part admirably. And now the play is done. Draw the curtain and ponder what you really are. Good night."

[[WMG: Carroll plans on and actually hopes to lose.]]
He said he wanted to make his story more conventional after all. What could be more conventional that the Good Guy winning. He is just stringing things along to make them as dramatic as possible until the climax where is lets Hardy bring down everything he has built in the most dramatic fashion possible.
* And if you define "winning" as "achieving one's goals", then by definition ''Carroll can't lose''.
** Turns out "[[spoiler:dying]] without achieving one's goals" counts as a loss after all.
*** Except [[spoiler:he never died. He just hid for a while and then decided to figure out how to get a new group of people to kill for him. Although, to be fair, the original loss was never actually part of his plan, by all appearances]].



** Unfortunately, [[spoiler:Parker's not so lucky]].

[[WMG: The season finale shall have Carroll undergo a VillainousBreakdown of epic preportions.]]
And by bad, I am talking [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]] bad.
* Confirmed by Episode 13.

[[WMG: This series is going to become a {{Deconstruction}} of villianous organizations in general and [[ReligionOfEvil Religions of Evil]] in particular.]]
By showing that such an organization would collapse under the weight of all of its assembled dysfunctional personalities.
* This makes a lot of sense. Even the most seemingly competent and level-headed members of Joe's organization are severely damaged people below the surface.
** For the second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.
* It certainly seems like we're heading toward a [[EnemyCivilWar civil war]] between Carroll and [[TheStarscream Roderick]].
** Confirmed, although [[spoiler:[[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves it didn't last long]]]].

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** Unfortunately, [[spoiler:Parker's not so lucky]].

[[WMG: The season finale shall have Carroll undergo a VillainousBreakdown of epic preportions.]]
And by bad, I am talking [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]] bad.
* Confirmed by Episode 13.

[[WMG: This series is going to become a {{Deconstruction}} of villianous organizations in general and [[ReligionOfEvil Religions of Evil]] in particular.]]
By showing that such an organization would collapse under the weight of all of its assembled dysfunctional personalities.
* This makes a lot of sense. Even the most seemingly competent and level-headed members of Joe's organization are severely damaged people below the surface.
** For the second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.
* It certainly seems like we're heading toward a [[EnemyCivilWar civil war]] between Carroll and [[TheStarscream Roderick]].
** Confirmed, although [[spoiler:[[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves it didn't last long]]]].
lucky]].



[[WMG: Season two will focus on a new group of followers.]]
Namely, people who didn't join up with the main group in season one, and the followers who scattered in episodes 13/14.
[[WMG: Lily Gray will turn out to be a Follower]]
* And she will be a member of a splinter group that will try to kill Ryan as revenge for killing [[spoiler:or not]] Joe Carrol
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. She's also Mark and Luke's mother]].
[[WMG: Mark and Luke aren't twins]]
* They're ''quadruplets.'' There's a Matthew and John out there somewhere too…only they're perfectly sane.
[[WMG: Claire Matthews [[spoiler: isn't dead.]]]]
* [[spoiler: She's in hiding. Remember, Mike's the one who told Hardy she was gone. Mike's the Witness Protection guy. He helped her disappear.]]
** [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]

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[[WMG: Season two will focus on a new group of followers.]]
Namely, people who didn't join up with the main group in season one, and the followers who scattered in episodes 13/14.
[[WMG: Lily Gray will turn out to be a Follower]]
* And she will be a member of a splinter group that will try to kill Ryan as revenge for killing [[spoiler:or not]] Joe Carrol
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. She's also Mark and Luke's mother]].
[[WMG: Mark and Luke aren't twins]]
* They're ''quadruplets.'' There's a Matthew and John out there somewhere too…only they're perfectly sane.
[[WMG: Claire Matthews [[spoiler: isn't dead.]]]]
* [[spoiler: She's in hiding. Remember, Mike's the one who told Hardy she was gone. Mike's the Witness Protection guy. He helped her disappear.]]
** [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]


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[[WMG: Olivia's fate.]]
She will either be ordered to commit public suicide, suicide on her own terms, or be murdered in defiance against Carrol. It will most likely be the first two, seeing Carrol is practically manipulating into destroying her life.
* [[spoiler: Partially confirmed -- Carroll ''does'' kill her, but not because of defiance. [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness He just didn't need her anymore.]]]]

[[WMG: Joey will be the SpannerInTheWorks that brings down Carroll once and for all.]]
* Joe's already having trouble with the fact that Joey didn't immediately warm up to him, so there's probably something to this.
* Confirmed, in a roundabout way. There were a lot of spanners.

[[WMG: The season finale shall have Carroll undergo a VillainousBreakdown of epic proportions.]]
And by bad, I am talking [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]] bad.
* Confirmed by Episode 13.

[[WMG: Season two will focus on a new group of followers.]]
Namely, people who didn't join up with the main group in season one, and the followers who scattered in episodes 13/14.

[[WMG: Lily Gray will turn out to be a Follower]]
* And she will be a member of a splinter group that will try to kill Ryan as revenge for killing [[spoiler:or not]] Joe Carrol
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. She's also Mark and Luke's mother]]

[[WMG: Claire Matthews [[spoiler: isn't dead.]]]]
* [[spoiler: She's in hiding. Remember, Mike's the one who told Hardy she was gone. Mike's the Witness Protection guy. He helped her disappear.]]
** [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]
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[[WMG: The great plan involves Carroll turning Hardy into a great detective so that he can twist him into becoming a great villain.]]
Carroll will fill Hardy's team with his followers who's goal is to help Hardy and become his followers. The idea is that Hardy will become this great hero for 'stopping' Carroll and his followers only for Carroll (and his followers) to reveal that Hardy is supposedly the true mastermind (his team revealing themselves as cultists, statements showing how Hardy seemingly figured improbable things out, etc). The end result is that Hardy is both disgraced and perhaps pushed over the edge such that Hardy must become what Carroll wants him to be in order to win and stop Carroll - that is, Hardy is imprisoned and must recruit his own illicit following to fight Carroll's.
* That would be agonizing but really great.

[[WMG: At some point, Carroll is going to break The Fourth Wall.]]
Maybe in a season or series finale, he will address the audience directly and give them a YouBastard speech. It will go something like this:
-->"Well now, did you enjoy that? I hope you have. And now you've seen the point of my greatest work. These people have died, some of them horribly, for your pleasure. I have killed, and I have made others kill, all for your entertainment. You have enjoyed the drama I have created, you have tuned in faithfully, you have clamored for more...and in so doing, you all have become my accomplices. You have played your part admirably. And now the play is done. Draw the curtain and ponder what you really are. Good night."

[[WMG: Carroll plans on and actually hopes to lose.]]
He said he wanted to make his story more conventional after all. What could be more conventional that the Good Guy winning. He is just stringing things along to make them as dramatic as possible until the climax where is lets Hardy bring down everything he has built in the most dramatic fashion possible.
* And if you define "winning" as "achieving one's goals", then by definition ''Carroll can't lose''.
** Turns out "[[spoiler:dying]] without achieving one's goals" counts as a loss after all.
*** Except [[spoiler:he never died. He just hid for a while and then decided to figure out how to get a new group of people to kill for him. Although, to be fair, the original loss was never actually part of his plan, by all appearances]].


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[[WMG: The show's creators are Tropers.]]
Although they'd probably never admit it.
* Oh they'd admit it. Then they'd probably kill you.

[[WMG: Mike is Emma's brother.]]
They look a bit alike. They could be long-lost siblings, or something.
* Given what we've seen of her backstory, this seems unlikely.

[[WMG: This series is going to become a {{Deconstruction}} of villianous organizations in general and [[ReligionOfEvil Religions of Evil]] in particular.]]
By showing that such an organization would collapse under the weight of all of its assembled dysfunctional personalities.
* This makes a lot of sense. Even the most seemingly competent and level-headed members of Joe's organization are severely damaged people below the surface.
** For the second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.
* It certainly seems like we're heading toward a [[EnemyCivilWar civil war]] between Carroll and [[TheStarscream Roderick]].
** Confirmed, although [[spoiler:[[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves it didn't last long]]]].

[[WMG: Mark and Luke aren't twins]]
* They're ''quadruplets.'' There's a Matthew and John out there somewhere too…only they're perfectly sane.
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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Mandy was killed before anything could happen.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Both Emma and Mandy was were killed by other people before anything any confrontation between them could happen.]]
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*** Except [[spoiler:he never died. He just hid for a while and then decided to figure out how to get a new group of people to kill for him. Although, to be fair, the original loss was never actually part of his plan, by all appearances]].
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]
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[[WMG: Hardy and Carroll are working together.]]
* In the last episode, it will come out that, for the last ten years, they've concocted this whole hero-and-villain story that they want to act out in the grandest of ways, with Hardy pretending to be the good-guy cop.
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[[WMG: Emma and Mandy will have a confrontation]]
* And it's going to be ''epic.''
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. She's also Mark and Luke's mother]].

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** [[spoiler: Although the Followers do seem to have split into rival factions. There are at least three separate groups still out there, including Emma's, which is laying low.]]



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[[WMG: Mark and Luke aren't twins]]
* They're ''quadruplets.'' There's a Matthew and John out there somewhere too…only they're perfectly sane.
[[WMG: Claire Matthews [[spoiler: isn't dead.]]]]
*[[spoiler: She's in hiding. Remember, Mike's the one who told Hardy she was gone. Mike's the Witness Protection guy. He helped her disappear.]]
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[[WMG: Lily Gray will turn out to be a Follower]]
*And she will be a member of a splinter group that will try to kill Ryan as revenge for killing [[spoiler:or not]] Joe Carrol
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-->[[spoiler: '''Hardy''': The greatest trick the devil ever pulled- ''switches to'' '''Carroll''': -was convincing the world he did not exist]].

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-->[[spoiler: '''Hardy''': The greatest trick the devil ever pulled- ''switches to'' ''*switches to*'' '''Carroll''': -was convincing the world he did not exist]].
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** [[spoiler: The season two promos pretty much Joss this outright]].

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** [[spoiler: The season two promos pretty much Joss this outright]].
outright. After all:]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Hardy''': The greatest trick the devil ever pulled- ''switches to'' '''Carroll''': -was convincing the world he did not exist]].
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** [[spoiler: The season two promos pretty much Joss this outright]].
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And by bad, I am talking [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]] bad.

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And by bad, I am talking [[AvatarTheLastAirbender [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Azula]] bad.
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** They ''did'' [[spoiler:find the body, or parts of it. The FBI was confident enough in their ID that they let the news announce he was dead]]. Did everyone just forget about the scene with the girl watching TV in the restaurant?

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** They ''did'' [[spoiler:find the body, or parts of it. The FBI was confident enough in their ID that they let the news announce he was dead]]. Did everyone just forget about the scene with the girl watching TV in the restaurant?
restaurant?
** That only means [[spoiler: they found ''parts'' of him.]] Which is even creepier, really.
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* Confirmed, in a roundabout way. There were a lot of spanners.




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** Turns out "[[spoiler:dying]] without achieving one's goals" counts as a loss after all.



** They ''did'' [[spoiler:find the body, or parts of it. The FBI was confident enough in their ID that they let the news announce he was dead]]. Did everyone just forget about the scene with the girl in the restaurant?

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** They ''did'' [[spoiler:find the body, or parts of it. The FBI was confident enough in their ID that they let the news announce he was dead]]. Did everyone just forget about the scene with the girl watching TV in the restaurant?
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* [[spoiler: Jossed. He survives the season.]]

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* [[spoiler: Jossed. He survives the season.]]
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** Unfortunately, [[spoiler:Parker's not so lucky]].
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[[WMG: Season two will focus on a new group of followers.]]
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* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}. She's killed by being BuriedAlive, and there's no evidence she was ever part of the cult.]]




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* [[spoiler: Appears to be ultimately {{Jossed}} by the season finale.]]



Carroll will fill Hardy's team with his followers who's goal is to help Hardy and become his followers. The idea is that Hardy will become this great hero for 'stopping' Carroll and his followers only for Carroll (and his followers) to reveal that Hardy is supposedly the true mastermind (his team revealing themselves as cultists, statements showing how Hardy seemingly figured improbable things out, etc). The end result is that Hardy is both disgraced and perhaps pushed over the edge such that Hardy must become what Carroll wants him to be in order to win and stop Carroll - that is, Hardy is imprisoned and must recruit his own illicit following to fight Carrolls.
- That would be agonizing but really great.

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Carroll will fill Hardy's team with his followers who's goal is to help Hardy and become his followers. The idea is that Hardy will become this great hero for 'stopping' Carroll and his followers only for Carroll (and his followers) to reveal that Hardy is supposedly the true mastermind (his team revealing themselves as cultists, statements showing how Hardy seemingly figured improbable things out, etc). The end result is that Hardy is both disgraced and perhaps pushed over the edge such that Hardy must become what Carroll wants him to be in order to win and stop Carroll - that is, Hardy is imprisoned and must recruit his own illicit following to fight Carrolls.
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Carroll's.
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That would be agonizing but really great.




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* [[spoiler: Jossed. He survives the season.]]




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* Confirmed by Episode 13.


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** Confirmed, although [[spoiler:[[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves it didn't last long]]]].
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[[WMG: Carroll is not going to survive the first season.]]
He's going to be killed, either by the FBI or Roderick. But the cult will continue with him as a martyred figure, and may even splinter into rival sects or factions.
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* Seems to be jossed... for now.
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* It certainly seems like we're heading toward a civil war between Carroll and [[TheStarscream Roderick]].

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* Oh they'd admit it. Then they'd probably kill you.
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** If this gets picked up for a second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.

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** If this gets picked up for a For the second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.
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** If this gets picked up for a second season, we might even get a DeconReconSwitch as Carroll rebuilds his cult following the aftermath of season one, learning from his mistakes.

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