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Lady Shiva regroups the League of Shadows and continues the assault on the Bat Family.

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Lady Shiva regroups the League of Shadows and continues the assault on the Bat Family.Family.

[[WMG: TheJoker is HeWhoMustNotBeNamed ]]
That's the in universe reason why no one ever mentions him.
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This makes "No one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask" a case of foreshadowing.

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This makes "No one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask" a case of foreshadowing.foreshadowing.

[[WMG: Bruce Wayne will become Batman again after...]]

The Penguin becomes the mayor of Gotham and turns it back into a crime ridden city.


Wayne Enterprises creates a product that messes with DNA and creates Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Posion Ivy, and/or Clayface.


Catwoman steals from Black Mask who then goes after her for revenge.


Lady Shiva regroups the League of Shadows and continues the assault on the Bat Family.

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This guess addresses the FridgeLogic of Talia wanting to continue her father's work when she stated she hated him. Since Bane is established as a dangerously intelligent man, it's not too implausible to suggest that when he was "protecting" her in the Pit, he also began to brainwash her. The prisoners attack him because they realize the monster his brainwashing created. Talia is now a sort of fanatic devotee to him, which is why she comes back. After Bane got expelled from the League, he used Talia to gain the League's support again and as a mole. The revelation that she was a sort of [[TheManBehindTheMan Woman Behind the Man]] to Bane is either part of the trick or a clever bit of improvisation/lying to throw Batman off.

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This guess addresses provides a possible solution the FridgeLogic of Talia wanting to continue her father's work when even though she stated she hated him. Since him.

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Bane is established as a dangerously intelligent man, it's not too implausible to suggest that when he was "protecting" her in the Pit, he also began to brainwash her. The prisoners attack him because they realize the monster his brainwashing created. Talia is now a sort of fanatic devotee to him, which is why she comes back. After Bane got expelled from the League, he used Talia to gain the League's support again and as a mole. The revelation that she was a sort of [[TheManBehindTheMan Woman Behind the Man]] to Bane is either part of the trick or a clever bit of improvisation/lying to throw Batman off.




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* And in a number of his scenes, it does seem that Bane is calling the shots. The entire abduction of Dr. Pavel is clearly done by Bane and his men without Talia having anything to do with that. The Stock Exchange robbery is something that Bane orchestrates, plans, and leads.

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With all his other bits of technical genius, his [[spoiler:Keyser Soze]]-esque masterstroke was inventing an algorithm which would completely erase his identity, making him the ultimate chaotic master criminal with no records of his existence and thus no way of properly pinning any crime on him. After he used it, he destroyed it but kept records in case he ever needed something valuable to offer as a bribe. This is how Selina and Daggett heard of it.

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With all his other bits of technical genius, his [[spoiler:Keyser Soze]]-esque masterstroke was inventing an algorithm which would completely erase his identity, making him the ultimate chaotic master criminal with no records of his existence and thus no way of properly pinning any crime on him. After he used it, he destroyed it but kept records in case he ever needed something valuable to offer as a bribe. This is how Selina and Daggett heard of it.it

[[WMG: Bane's line on the plane - "No one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask" - foreshadows how his attack on Gotham works]]

After the plane hijacking, Bane and his men set up in the sewers below Gotham. No one knows of his existence, except for Gordon (who only accidentally discovers the lair due to the shootout that Selina Kyle instigates). I think no one in the Gotham public even knows that Bane exists until he and his men attack the Stock Exchange. After the Stock Exchange heist, Bane gets away and is not seen by anyone in the general public again until the football stadium attack, his second public appearance, where he quickly sets himself up as the warlord who just appeared out of nowhere.

This makes "No one cared who I was 'til I put on the mask" a case of foreshadowing.

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* The GPD were actively looking for the congressman, they knew he was missing, and they feared a hostage situation. That SWAT team was likely on standby already to be ready and capable of rescuing the congressman as soon as they located him, which they did. If I remember right, Gordon ordered every cop in the city out looking for him.

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* The GPD were police are actively looking for the congressman, they knew know he was is missing, and they feared fear a hostage situation. That SWAT team was likely on standby already to be ready and capable of rescuing the congressman as soon as they located him, which they did. If I remember right, Gordon ordered every cop in the city out looking for him.
***Not every cop. Remember that they still had to have a good portion of the force assigned to respond to regular emergency calls, to whom the congressman would be second priority.
**Still, given that there's about ''two minutes'' between when Selina tricks Stryver into making the phone call and when the SWAT team arrives at the door, it seems as if the SWAT team had to have been no more than a few blocks away from the bar. Though if the bar happens to be in a high-crime area like the Southwest Side of Chicago is today, I guess another explanation could be that the reason police respond so quickly is that they have saturation patrols.
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** At the same time, however, it should be noted that even if the round didn't pierce his armor, the impact trauma alone would have likely been enough to pulverize his insides and stop his heart. And given that this is the end of the trilogy, it's generally suggested Bane dies.

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** At the same time, however, it should be noted that even if the round didn't pierce his armor, the impact trauma alone would have likely been enough to pulverize his insides and stop his heart. And given that this is the end of the trilogy, it's generally suggested Bane dies.dies.

[[WMG: The Joker invented the Clean Slate]]

With all his other bits of technical genius, his [[spoiler:Keyser Soze]]-esque masterstroke was inventing an algorithm which would completely erase his identity, making him the ultimate chaotic master criminal with no records of his existence and thus no way of properly pinning any crime on him. After he used it, he destroyed it but kept records in case he ever needed something valuable to offer as a bribe. This is how Selina and Daggett heard of it.
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* The GPD were actively looking for the congressman, they knew he was missing, and they feared a hostage situation. That SWAT team was likely on standby already to be ready and capable of rescuing the congressman as soon as they located him, which they did. If I remember right, Gordon ordered every cop in the city out looking for him.
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** Extraction doesn't actually remove the information. It's the retrieval of information without the target realizing it's been accessed.

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* Also, Christopher Guest, who played Teal'c in the ''Stargate'' franchise, plays the black captain who captures Blake during his aborted attempt to rescue cops from underground.

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* Also, Christopher Guest, who played Teal'c in the ''Stargate'' franchise, plays the black captain who of the team that captures Blake during his aborted attempt to rescue cops from underground.



Very unlikely that Bane would have an UnlimitedWardrobe on hand in his lair, so it's possible he killed people to get stuff he needed. This would explain where he gets his motorcycle uniform, his helmet, and possibly even bikes and helmets for his accomplices in the robbery.

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Very unlikely that Bane would have an UnlimitedWardrobe on hand in his lair, so it's possible he killed people to get stuff he needed. This would explain where he gets his motorcycle uniform, his helmet, and possibly even bikes and helmets for his accomplices in the robbery.robbery.

[[WMG: Bane may have survived being blasted with the Batpod cannons]]

This was brought up on the IMDB FAQ. Some viewers speculate that since Bane is wearing his flak jacket when Selina blasts him with the Batpod's cannons, there's a chance he may have lived.
**At the same time, however, it should be noted that even if the round didn't pierce his armor, the impact trauma alone would have likely been enough to pulverize his insides and stop his heart. And given that this is the end of the trilogy, it's generally suggested Bane dies.
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* Also, Christopher Guest, who played Teal'c in the ''Stargate'' franchise, plays the black captain who captures Blake during his aborted attempt to rescue cops from underground.

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This addresses the FridgeLogic of Talia wanting to continue her father's work when she stated she hated him. Given that Bane is established throughout the film as a dangerously intelligent man, it's not too implausible to suggest that when he was "protecting" her in the Pit, he also began to brainwash her. The prisoners attack him because they realize the monster his brainwashing created. Talia is now a sort of fanatic devotee to him, which is why she comes back. After Bane got expelled from the League, he used Talia to gain the League's support again and as a mole. The revelation that she was a sort of [[TheManBehindTheMan Woman Behind the Man]] to Bane is either part of the trick or a clever bit of improvisation/lying to throw Batman off.

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This guess addresses the FridgeLogic of Talia wanting to continue her father's work when she stated she hated him. Given that Since Bane is established throughout the film as a dangerously intelligent man, it's not too implausible to suggest that when he was "protecting" her in the Pit, he also began to brainwash her. The prisoners attack him because they realize the monster his brainwashing created. Talia is now a sort of fanatic devotee to him, which is why she comes back. After Bane got expelled from the League, he used Talia to gain the League's support again and as a mole. The revelation that she was a sort of [[TheManBehindTheMan Woman Behind the Man]] to Bane is either part of the trick or a clever bit of improvisation/lying to throw Batman off.



Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium and when he reads the letter about Dent and delivers his manifesto) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden and get veiny. There's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone as in the stadium scene, it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.

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Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable and justified, no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison backstory riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium and when he reads the letter about Dent and delivers his manifesto) he gets even hoarser, his voice sounds strained and hoarse, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden and get veiny. There's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, as implied throughout the film, but even with the additional help of another microphone as in the stadium scene, it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.



And Bane played right into his hands, though we have yet to see what the endgame is.

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And Bane played right into his hands, though we have yet to see what the endgame is.is.

[[WMG: Selina Kyle was cooperating with the police even ''before'' meeting with Stryver]]
Watch the meeting with Stryver at the bar. Notice that Selina hands Stryver her cell phone and tells him to hit the send button. Jen comes in, exchanges a few words with Selina, then leaves. Selina reveals that her "date" is actually the Congressman and subtly slips to Stryver that he used the guy's cell phone when he prepares to shoot her. Immediately, a SWAT team arrives as Selina fights with the thugs. She shoots two of them, and then the SWATs breach the place.

Since it's very unlikely that a full SWAT team already suited up in full gear would be ready to descend on such short notice (as under normal circumstances, in a large city, SWAT officers would be scattered wide across the city doing regular patrol duties while carrying their special gear in the trunks of their cars), it seems possible that Selina had told the police that someone would attempt to kill her. That the police were treating it like a sting operation would account for why Gordon and Foley, a police commissioner and a deputy commissioner, would be rolling on what would otherwise be a regular emergency call.

[[WMG: Bane killed a real motorcycle courier to get the outfit he wears for the stock exchange heist]]

Very unlikely that Bane would have an UnlimitedWardrobe on hand in his lair, so it's possible he killed people to get stuff he needed. This would explain where he gets his motorcycle uniform, his helmet, and possibly even bikes and helmets for his accomplices in the robbery.
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** That really only lends credence to the theory, since that was when Batman originally disappeared also. And when Bruce returned to the city at the film's climax, he spent some time out of costume, during which he could have been sighted as Bruce.
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* But as far as people know, Bruce Wayne disappeared months earlier, during Bane's initial attack.
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We see Alfred start to get up in the final scene. Despite the whole plan of "I wouldn't say a word to you, nor you to me," he was too emotionally moved to not say anything, so he went over and there was much hugging and rejoicing. The happy couple then continues to meet with him at the cafe on his annual holiday, exchanging Christmas cards and photos of their children. *Happy sigh*

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We see Alfred start to get up in the final scene. Despite the whole plan {{plan}} of "I wouldn't say a word to you, nor you to me," he was too emotionally moved to not say anything, so he went over and there was much hugging and rejoicing. The happy couple then continues to meet with him at the cafe on his annual holiday, exchanging Christmas cards and photos of their children. *Happy sigh*



Given their relationship it's not hard to believe they would consider each other equal partners rather than a master and an underling. It's just that one's contribution to the scheme was visible, the other's hidden. He was the theatricality, she was the deception, as some wise person said. OR he could even have similar dynamic with her as Joker had with Maroni in the previous one; one as the active mastermind and other provided resources. What leads one to believe this is the fact that Bane's motivations and values were dominating in the evil plan - It wasn't just the old "purge the society of corruption and rebuild", it was Bane's twisted power fantasy version of it, leading to even worse society and ultimately just total pointless destruction.

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Given their relationship it's not hard to believe they would consider each other equal partners rather than a master and an underling. It's just that one's contribution to the scheme was visible, the other's hidden. He was the theatricality, she was the deception, as some wise person said. OR he could even have similar dynamic with her as Joker had with Maroni in the previous one; one as the active mastermind and other provided resources. What leads one to believe this is the fact that Bane's motivations and values were dominating in the evil plan EvilPlan - It wasn't just the old "purge the society of corruption and rebuild", it was Bane's twisted power fantasy version of it, leading to even worse society and ultimately just total pointless destruction.



** Still, he drew out the evil plan needlessly with his way of "torturing an entire city" for months, and apparently intended to blow up along with the rest of Gotham, so screw Ra's al Ghul's vision. The point is, it was Bane's agenda that dominated.

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** Still, he drew out the evil plan EvilPlan needlessly with his way of "torturing an entire city" for months, and apparently intended to blow up along with the rest of Gotham, so screw Ra's al Ghul's vision. The point is, it was Bane's agenda that dominated.



* Ra's Al Ghul is still alive. He was down there with Bruce all the time, fascinated to see if he could break his daughter's plan. In the end, [[spoiler: he recovers Talia's body and resurrects her and, who knows, maybe hooks her up with Bruce Wayne, his faith in his old pupil restored]]. I not only like to think that this is so, but i think it actually makes sense. The League of Shadows can't be dead just yet.

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* Ra's Al Ghul is still alive. He was down there with Bruce all the time, fascinated to see if he could break his daughter's plan.EvilPlan. In the end, [[spoiler: he recovers Talia's body and resurrects her and, who knows, maybe hooks her up with Bruce Wayne, his faith in his old pupil restored]]. I not only like to think that this is so, but i think it actually makes sense. The League of Shadows can't be dead just yet.

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remove the following because it dissolved in arguing and is a pitiful arguement. One does not start up such a grand and elaborate plan to break a city on the other end of the world that\'s unrelated to one\'s suffering and a man he has no connection to simply because he was despairing.


** Bane was willing to die taking the city with him, because he had actually passed the DespairEventHorizon.
*** When exactly did he pass it, and why?
**** When he boasts to Batman in their [[CurbStompBattle first fight]] that he was born and raised in darkness, he could be referring to that. Living in the prison as he did could have easily driven him beyond the DespairEventHorizon.
**** Then he should have set out to destroy ''Morocco'', or whatever Nolanverse-equivalent it was that consigned him to the Pit in the first place, not Gotham City.

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** Bane was willing to die taking the city with him, because he had actually passed the DespairEventHorizon.
*** When exactly did he pass it, and why?
**** When he boasts to Batman in their [[CurbStompBattle first fight]] that he was born and raised in darkness, he could be referring to that. Living in the prison as he did could have easily driven him beyond the DespairEventHorizon.
**** Then he should have set out to destroy ''Morocco'', or whatever Nolanverse-equivalent it was that consigned him to the Pit in the first place, not Gotham City.
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[[WMG: Having his plane crashed 'with no survivors' was all part of Littlefinger's plan]]
And Bane played right into his hands

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[[WMG: Having his plane crashed 'with no survivors' was all part of Littlefinger's [[GameOfThrones Littlefinger]]'s plan]]
And Bane played right into his handshands, though we have yet to see what the endgame is.
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He will undergo a series of surgeries and eventually become Bat''girl''. That, or tumble into some chemicals left in the Batcave and become the Creeper.

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He will undergo a series of surgeries and eventually become Bat''girl''. That, or tumble into some chemicals left in the Batcave and become the Creeper.Creeper.
[[WMG: Having his plane crashed 'with no survivors' was all part of Littlefinger's plan]]
And Bane played right into his hands
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There are still people refusing to accept the deaths of Elvis, Jim Morrison, Tupac, and others; there's no way they will accept the death of ''Batman.'' It's only a matter of time before people connect Bruce Wayne (the other celebrity that died that day without a body) and Batman, and the sightings of Bruce pile up. Realizing that trying to hide himself (since he is technically ''two'' of the most famous people in recent history) is implausible, he'll either go into hiding in a (bat?) cave somewhere or just give up and admit everything.

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There are still people refusing to accept the deaths of Elvis, Jim Morrison, Tupac, and others; there's no way they will accept the death of ''Batman.'' It's only a matter of time before people connect Bruce Wayne (the other celebrity that died that day without a body) and Batman, and the sightings of Bruce pile up. Realizing that trying to hide himself (since he is technically ''two'' of the most famous people in recent history) is implausible, he'll either go into hiding in a (bat?) cave somewhere or just give up and admit everything.everything.
[[WMG: Robin John Blake will not become the new Batman... or Robin, or Nightwing]]
He will undergo a series of surgeries and eventually become Bat''girl''. That, or tumble into some chemicals left in the Batcave and become the Creeper.
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-->'''Roland Daggett:''' Oh clearly you don't know much of anything do you?

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-->'''Roland -->'''John Daggett:''' Oh clearly you don't know much of anything do you?



* After his arrest in ''TheDarkKnight'', the US government wanted nothing more than to execute the Joker. Unfortunately, due to his skill at manipulation, he made a mockery of the legal system while simultaneously having many people the world over in an uproar over America trying to get someone so obviously mentally ill executed. Finally Uncle Sam simply decided to just throw the Joker in the deepest, darkest hole they could find. One that made Guantanamo look like Disneyland. Since there were a few League of Shadows members in high places in the government, it quickly became obvious where to put him. The famously cruel Peña Duro; that would show that stupid clown! After murdering several (dozen) other prisoners, all the while thinking the 'hope' the pit offered was ''hilarious,'' the Joker came to the attention of the prison's current master, Bane. Bane and Talia remembered reading all about this clown, and the horror he put Batman through, and had to meet him. In the prison, even they were not immune to the Joker's mind games; and he slyly manipulated them into coming up with "their" plan to attack Gotham (telling Talia about the virtues of a 'slow knife,' for example). He offered them lots of ideas - free of charge - on the condition that neither Bane or Talia ever mention him to anyone. Finally the Joker talked them into letting him go free, satisfied Gotham was doomed. He wandered deep into the Middle East and no one knows where he [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Joker_as_Iranian_Ambassador.jpg is now.]]

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* After his arrest in ''TheDarkKnight'', ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', the US government wanted nothing more than to execute the Joker. Unfortunately, due to his skill at manipulation, he made a mockery of the legal system while simultaneously having many people the world over in an uproar over America trying to get someone so obviously mentally ill executed. Finally Uncle Sam simply decided to just throw the Joker in the deepest, darkest hole they could find. One that made Guantanamo look like Disneyland. Since there were a few League of Shadows members in high places in the government, it quickly became obvious where to put him. The famously cruel Peña Duro; that would show that stupid clown! After murdering several (dozen) other prisoners, all the while thinking the 'hope' the pit offered was ''hilarious,'' the Joker came to the attention of the prison's current master, Bane. Bane and Talia remembered reading all about this clown, and the horror he put Batman through, and had to meet him. In the prison, even they were not immune to the Joker's mind games; and he slyly manipulated them into coming up with "their" plan to attack Gotham (telling Talia about the virtues of a 'slow knife,' for example). He offered them lots of ideas - free of charge - on the condition that neither Bane or Talia ever mention him to anyone. Finally the Joker talked them into letting him go free, satisfied Gotham was doomed. He wandered deep into the Middle East and no one knows where he [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Joker_as_Iranian_Ambassador.jpg is now.]]
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There are still people refusing to accept the deaths of Elvis, Jim Morrison, Tupac, and others; there's no way they will accept the death of ''Batman.'' It's only a matter of time before people connect Bruce Wayne (the other celebrity that died that day without a body) and Batman, and the sightings of Bruce pile up. Realizing that trying to hide himself (since he is technically ''two'' of the most famous people in recent history) is implausible, he'll either go into hiding in a cave somewhere or just give up and admit everything.

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There are still people refusing to accept the deaths of Elvis, Jim Morrison, Tupac, and others; there's no way they will accept the death of ''Batman.'' It's only a matter of time before people connect Bruce Wayne (the other celebrity that died that day without a body) and Batman, and the sightings of Bruce pile up. Realizing that trying to hide himself (since he is technically ''two'' of the most famous people in recent history) is implausible, he'll either go into hiding in a (bat?) cave somewhere or just give up and admit everything.
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Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium and when he reads the letter about Dent and delivers his manifesto) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden and get veiny. There's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone as in the stadium scene, it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.

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Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium and when he reads the letter about Dent and delivers his manifesto) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden and get veiny. There's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone as in the stadium scene, it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.much.
[[WMG: Bruce Wayne's fake "death" will not last very long at all]]
There are still people refusing to accept the deaths of Elvis, Jim Morrison, Tupac, and others; there's no way they will accept the death of ''Batman.'' It's only a matter of time before people connect Bruce Wayne (the other celebrity that died that day without a body) and Batman, and the sightings of Bruce pile up. Realizing that trying to hide himself (since he is technically ''two'' of the most famous people in recent history) is implausible, he'll either go into hiding in a cave somewhere or just give up and admit everything.
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Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden; there's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.

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Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium) stadium and when he reads the letter about Dent and delivers his manifesto) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden; there's redden and get veiny. There's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone as in the stadium scene, it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.
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She definitely seems to fangirl Catwoman. And she's in love with Bane's chaos.

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She definitely seems to fangirl Catwoman. And she's in love with Bane's chaos.chaos.

[[WMG: Bane has a physical injury affecting his ability to speak.]]
Hardly a ''wild'' mass guess, but while Bane's resistance to raising his voice makes him seem weirdly affable, it'd actually be very reasonable no matter his temperament if any of the injuries sustained in the prison riot resulted in physical damage to the structures of the throat and jaw that control speech. It's not that EvilSoundsDeep, it's that evil sounds ''hoarse'' and a little garbled. The times where he does appear to raise his voice (during his speech at the stadium) he gets even hoarser, and his face (or what's visible of it) starts to really redden; there's probably a microphone built into the mask to start with, but even with the additional help of another microphone it's still difficult and probably painful for him to strain his voice too much.
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* The teaser for Man of Steel that was attached to the Dark Knight? It opens up on the ocean, featuring a fishing boat...I HONESTLY thought it was for an Aquaman film at first!
** Until I saw pieces that suggested Superman (before it actually showed him flying at supersonic speeds) I was just confused. Personally I don't think I could ever take an Aquaman movie seriously.

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* The teaser for Man of Steel that was attached to the Dark Knight? It opens up on the ocean, featuring a fishing boat...I HONESTLY thought it was for [[spoiler: an Aquaman film film]] at first!
** Until I saw pieces that suggested Superman (before it actually showed him flying at supersonic speeds) I was just confused. Personally I don't think I could ever take [[spoiler: an Aquaman movie movie]] seriously.
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He's just making Talia a scarf. When we first see kid!Talia out in the open for the first time, she's wearing a blue headscarf/cowl like the other prisoners, but hers appears to be knitted rather than woven. Bane's been taking care of her for an unspecified period of time before this; it's not unthinkable that he could get the supplies for a fairly basic handicraft. His sewer lair also appears to feature a blue knitted blanket.

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He's just making Talia a scarf. When we first see kid!Talia out in the open for the first time, she's wearing a blue headscarf/cowl like the other prisoners, but hers appears to be knitted rather than woven. Bane's been taking care of her for an unspecified period of time before this; it's not unthinkable that he could get the supplies for a fairly basic handicraft. His sewer lair also appears to feature a blue knitted blanket.blanket.

[[WMG: Selena Kyle's roommate's name is really HarleyQuinn.]]
She definitely seems to fangirl Catwoman. And she's in love with Bane's chaos.
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* First of all, dude, not funny. Second of all, yeah, probably. Whether or not Bane was literally born in the Pit, he's been there since he was a kid. He knows firsthand what a bunch of violent, unrestrained criminals [[WouldHurtAChild will try to do to someone much smaller and more vulnerable than they are]], and it's highly implied that Talia's mother was gang-raped ''to death''. Even if he wasn't assaulted when the mob sweeps over him for helping Talia escape, that's not unthinkable as part of his personal history, and it was probably part of why he protected kid Talia so fiercely. He probably helped shave her head and helped clothe her to hide her gender.

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* First of all, dude, not funny. Second of all, yeah, probably. Whether or not Bane was literally born in the Pit, he's been there since he was a kid.kid (or at least a young teenager). He knows firsthand what a bunch of violent, unrestrained criminals [[WouldHurtAChild will try to do to someone much smaller and more vulnerable than they are]], and it's highly implied that Talia's mother was gang-raped ''to death''. Even if he wasn't assaulted when the mob sweeps over him for helping Talia escape, that's not unthinkable as part of his personal history, and it was probably part of why he protected kid Talia so fiercely. He probably helped shave her head and helped clothe her to hide her gender.
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* We do see what happens to Jen -- they grow apart ideologically, as shown in the "this used to be somebody's house"/"now it's everybody's house" scene. Jen even reaches out to touch her and Selina shrugs it off.
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[[WMG: The Bat was designed to airlift the Tumbler, and conversely it could be deployed by it.]]

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[[WMG: The Bat was designed to airlift the Tumbler, and conversely it could be deployed by it.]]]]

[[WMG: When Bane is knitting at the "sentencing" tribunal...]]
He's just making Talia a scarf. When we first see kid!Talia out in the open for the first time, she's wearing a blue headscarf/cowl like the other prisoners, but hers appears to be knitted rather than woven. Bane's been taking care of her for an unspecified period of time before this; it's not unthinkable that he could get the supplies for a fairly basic handicraft. His sewer lair also appears to feature a blue knitted blanket.
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* First of all, dude, not funny. Second of all, yeah, probably. Whether or not Bane was literally born in the Pit, he's been there since he was a kid. He knows firsthand what a bunch of violent, unrestrained criminals [[WouldHurtAChild will try to do to someone smaller and more vulnerable than they are]], and highly implied that Talia's mother was gang-raped [[NightmareFuelUnleaded to death]]. Even if he wasn't assaulted when the mob sweeps over him for helping Talia escape, that's not unthinkable as part of his personal history, and it was probably part of why he protected kid Talia so fiercely. He probably helped shave her head and helped clothe her to hide her gender.

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* First of all, dude, not funny. Second of all, yeah, probably. Whether or not Bane was literally born in the Pit, he's been there since he was a kid. He knows firsthand what a bunch of violent, unrestrained criminals [[WouldHurtAChild will try to do to someone much smaller and more vulnerable than they are]], and it's highly implied that Talia's mother was gang-raped [[NightmareFuelUnleaded to death]].''to death''. Even if he wasn't assaulted when the mob sweeps over him for helping Talia escape, that's not unthinkable as part of his personal history, and it was probably part of why he protected kid Talia so fiercely. He probably helped shave her head and helped clothe her to hide her gender.
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* First of all, dude, not funny. Second of all, yeah, probably. Whether or not Bane was literally born in the Pit, he's been there since he was a kid. He knows firsthand what a bunch of violent, unrestrained criminals [[WouldHurtAChild will try to do to someone smaller and more vulnerable than they are]], and highly implied that Talia's mother was gang-raped [[NightmareFuelUnleaded to death]]. Even if he wasn't assaulted when the mob sweeps over him for helping Talia escape, that's not unthinkable as part of his personal history, and it was probably part of why he protected kid Talia so fiercely. He probably helped shave her head and helped clothe her to hide her gender.

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