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21st Jan '16 7:14:37 PM nombretomado
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Expanding on this, it is possible to determine that the Antichrist is some sort of fear-monger with a lot of weight behind his or her words. Therefore, I have narrowed down the identity of the Antichrist to either GlennBeck, Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} as a whole, or his personal favorite, StephenColbert after BecomingTheMask at his March to Keep Fear Alive.
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Expanding on this, it is possible to determine that the Antichrist is some sort of fear-monger with a lot of weight behind his or her words. Therefore, I have narrowed down the identity of the Antichrist to either GlennBeck, Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}} as a whole, or his personal favorite, StephenColbert Creator/StephenColbert after BecomingTheMask at his March to Keep Fear Alive.
8th Jan '16 7:05:27 PM Discar
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The Bible says yahweh did them, but yahweh likes to take credit for things he didn't do. We know that each of the plagues reresent one of the Egyptian Gods, which has mistakenly been taken as a TakeThat or OurGodsAreGreater when actually the Egyptian God were pissed at Pharoh and the other Egyptians that were abusing the Hebrews. Yahweh struck a deal with them to let his people go, and you know the rest of the story.
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The Bible says yahweh did them, but yahweh likes to take credit for things he didn't do. We know that each of the plagues reresent one of the Egyptian Gods, which has mistakenly been taken as a TakeThat or OurGodsAreGreater OurGodsAreDifferent when actually the Egyptian God were pissed at Pharoh and the other Egyptians that were abusing the Hebrews. Yahweh struck a deal with them to let his people go, and you know the rest of the story.

The reason He claims [[OurGodsAreGreater he is the one and only god]] is because [[GodIsDead they're no longer there.]] TheVerse of the Bible is essentially a second attempt at running the world. Going by this, Satan/the Serpent could be a reincarnation of Loki. Both are [[AffablyEvil affable]] [[TricksterArchetype troublemakers]], [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation depending how you see them.]] However they both become enormous threats, related to the end of the world.
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The reason He claims [[OurGodsAreGreater [[OurGodsAreDifferent he is the one and only god]] is because [[GodIsDead they're no longer there.]] TheVerse of the Bible is essentially a second attempt at running the world. Going by this, Satan/the Serpent could be a reincarnation of Loki. Both are [[AffablyEvil affable]] [[TricksterArchetype troublemakers]], [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation depending how you see them.]] However they both become enormous threats, related to the end of the world.
27th Dec '15 2:56:50 PM Willbyr
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unnecessary with the link at the top of the page
[[AC: Literature/TheBible]]
27th Dec '15 2:56:27 PM Willbyr
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[[WMG: The Bible has some {{DarthWiki/Wall Banger}}s.]] * Even if that is the case, the Bible [[SeriousBusiness is so sensitive]] there's no way we'd be allowed to mention any.
20th Dec '15 5:28:32 AM Morgenthaler
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Like A Badass Out Of Hell is being split into new tropes.
* Fools! The real reason for the sole existence for Hell is RuleOfCool! Think about it. InfernalTropes, TheLegionsOfHell, LikeABadassOutOfHell, ToHellAndBack, AHellOfATime, and so on....
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* Fools! The real reason for the sole existence for Hell is RuleOfCool! Think about it. InfernalTropes, TheLegionsOfHell, LikeABadassOutOfHell, ToHellAndBack, AHellOfATime, and so on....
30th Nov '15 9:56:08 AM FF32
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* The New Atheists i.e. RichardDawkins are another, bigger attempt at suicide by God, because he saw that the not-appearing thing wasn't working.
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* The New Atheists i.e. RichardDawkins UsefulNotes/RichardDawkins are another, bigger attempt at suicide by God, because he saw that the not-appearing thing wasn't working.
16th Oct '15 3:03:40 PM nombretomado
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* PiersAnthony plays with this one in the Incarnations of Immortality series- Lucifer, Satan, and the like are names assumed by those who take on the mantle of the Incarnation of Evil, much like kings and queens take on reign-names in the real world. (so that, for example, the Incarnation known to the readers chose Satan as his formal name, but his predecessor was Lucifer)
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* PiersAnthony Creator/PiersAnthony plays with this one in the Incarnations of Immortality series- ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series - Lucifer, Satan, and the like are names assumed by those who take on the mantle of the Incarnation of Evil, much like kings and queens take on reign-names in the real world. (so that, for example, the Incarnation known to the readers chose Satan as his formal name, but his predecessor was Lucifer)
3rd Oct '15 9:39:14 AM nombretomado
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Take Jesus' commandment of Forgiveness, and the theory of Universal Reconciliation. and realize that the Prodigal Son himself is Satan, who was also meant to be redeemed. In ''ParadiseLost'' Hell is suspiciously easy to sneak out of, and both God and Lucifer mention that the fallen angels would be accepted back to heaven in a heartbeat if they asked God for forgiveness. The only reason they don't (and won't) is the pride that made them fall in the first place. \\
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Take Jesus' commandment of Forgiveness, and the theory of Universal Reconciliation. and realize that the Prodigal Son himself is Satan, who was also meant to be redeemed. In ''ParadiseLost'' ''Literature/ParadiseLost'' Hell is suspiciously easy to sneak out of, and both God and Lucifer mention that the fallen angels would be accepted back to heaven in a heartbeat if they asked God for forgiveness. The only reason they don't (and won't) is the pride that made them fall in the first place. \\

He eventually gives up the SelfInflictedHell of "[[ParadiseLost Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven]]", and finally comes home to God, who forgives him immediately because he loves all his sons and has a celebration in Heaven. The other son is Archangel Michael, who is still mad at Satan for betraying God and can't understand how he always followed God, and yet, God seems to be happy the traitor is back. God explains he loves Michael, but Satan had fallen but was now with them again. Satan and Michael make up and all is well.
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He eventually gives up the SelfInflictedHell of "[[ParadiseLost "[[Literature/ParadiseLost Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven]]", and finally comes home to God, who forgives him immediately because he loves all his sons and has a celebration in Heaven. The other son is Archangel Michael, who is still mad at Satan for betraying God and can't understand how he always followed God, and yet, God seems to be happy the traitor is back. God explains he loves Michael, but Satan had fallen but was now with them again. Satan and Michael make up and all is well.

[[WordOfGod Jesus Christ himself]] said to Love and forgive your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. And if you would consider the Parable of the Lost Son, you would see what is basically the life of Lucifer. Lucifer rebelled believing that it is "[[ParadiseLost Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven]]", but eventually gives up this SelfInflictedHell, and finally comes home to God, who forgives him immediately because he loves all his sons and has a celebration in Heaven. This meant that ''Lucifer, the first sinner, was meant to be redeemed as well''. However, the Medieval Catholic Church was exceedingly corrupt and totalitarian on a scale comparable to Soviet Russia, and so Augustine and Thomas Aquinas spread heresies such as the doctrine of a [[BigBrotherIsWatching totalitarian]] [[GodIsEvil complete-monster-of-a-God]] who would punish people with Eternal Punishment where sinners are never forgiven.
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[[WordOfGod Jesus Christ himself]] said to Love and forgive your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. And if you would consider the Parable of the Lost Son, you would see what is basically the life of Lucifer. Lucifer rebelled believing that it is "[[ParadiseLost "[[Literature/ParadiseLost Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven]]", but eventually gives up this SelfInflictedHell, and finally comes home to God, who forgives him immediately because he loves all his sons and has a celebration in Heaven. This meant that ''Lucifer, the first sinner, was meant to be redeemed as well''. However, the Medieval Catholic Church was exceedingly corrupt and totalitarian on a scale comparable to Soviet Russia, and so Augustine and Thomas Aquinas spread heresies such as the doctrine of a [[BigBrotherIsWatching totalitarian]] [[GodIsEvil complete-monster-of-a-God]] who would punish people with Eternal Punishment where sinners are never forgiven.

** The Islamic explanation is almost exactly what happens in ParadiseLost, with a little more angst thrown in.
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** The Islamic explanation is almost exactly what happens in ParadiseLost, Literature/ParadiseLost, with a little more angst thrown in.

** [[ParadiseLost Milton]] and [[TheDivineComedy Dante]] (the {{Trope Codifier}}s for Hell in modern thought) actually make it a point to bring this idea up. In ''ParadiseLost'' Hell is suspiciously easy to sneak out of, and both God and Lucifer mention that the fallen angels would be accepted back to heaven in a heartbeat if they asked God for forgiveness. The only reason they don't (and won't) is the pride that made them fall in the first place. Dante makes it almost comical -- Satan is frozen up to the waist in Lake Cocytus, constantly flapping his wings to try and escape which generates the icy wind that keeps the lake frozen. If he stopped rebelling against his punishment he'd be on his merry way ... but that would mean accepting his sins and his guilt. And Dante himself was able to escape the "abandon all hope ye who enter here" place.
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** [[ParadiseLost [[Literature/ParadiseLost Milton]] and [[TheDivineComedy Dante]] (the {{Trope Codifier}}s for Hell in modern thought) actually make it a point to bring this idea up. In ''ParadiseLost'' ''Literature/ParadiseLost'' Hell is suspiciously easy to sneak out of, and both God and Lucifer mention that the fallen angels would be accepted back to heaven in a heartbeat if they asked God for forgiveness. The only reason they don't (and won't) is the pride that made them fall in the first place. Dante makes it almost comical -- Satan is frozen up to the waist in Lake Cocytus, constantly flapping his wings to try and escape which generates the icy wind that keeps the lake frozen. If he stopped rebelling against his punishment he'd be on his merry way ... but that would mean accepting his sins and his guilt. And Dante himself was able to escape the "abandon all hope ye who enter here" place.

It's honestly surprised me that no theologian's ever considered this. In the Old Testament, Satan is the Accuser, sort of a divine prosecutor whose job is to test humanity and prove to God that humans aren't worthy of Heaven. In the New Testament, Satan is the outright enemy of God. Christianity explains this with the War in Heaven, when Satan tried to usurp the throne and lead the angels against God, and the basis for this is mostly found in the book of Revelations, the opening chapters of which metaphorically describe the war, Satan's defeat and the angels being banished from Heaven. But for some reason, probably because John Milton [[AdaptationDisplacement wrote it that way]] in ''ParadiseLost'', people assume that the war happened eons ago, before the universe was even formed.
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It's honestly surprised me that no theologian's ever considered this. In the Old Testament, Satan is the Accuser, sort of a divine prosecutor whose job is to test humanity and prove to God that humans aren't worthy of Heaven. In the New Testament, Satan is the outright enemy of God. Christianity explains this with the War in Heaven, when Satan tried to usurp the throne and lead the angels against God, and the basis for this is mostly found in the book of Revelations, the opening chapters of which metaphorically describe the war, Satan's defeat and the angels being banished from Heaven. But for some reason, probably because John Milton [[AdaptationDisplacement wrote it that way]] in ''ParadiseLost'', ''Literature/ParadiseLost'', people assume that the war happened eons ago, before the universe was even formed.

* [[ParadiseLost Chaos and Old Night]] are actually beings from the same PrimordialChaos, who were mean to God.
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* [[ParadiseLost [[Literature/ParadiseLost Chaos and Old Night]] are actually beings from the same PrimordialChaos, who were mean to God.
23rd Sep '15 4:55:56 PM nombretomado
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* Hell was a Norse concept. NorseMythology had an afterlife called ''Hel'', where non-warriors are sent.....
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* Hell was a Norse concept. NorseMythology Myth/NorseMythology had an afterlife called ''Hel'', where non-warriors are sent.....

[[WMG: God is a survivor of [[NorseMythology Ragnarok.]] ]] It was established that NorseMythology was a precursor to Literature/TheBible. In this way, God(or YHWH, to be more accurate) may have been a deity from the Norse pantheon-one that was very obscure. Unlike the other gods, YHWH actively tried to hide from Ragnarok, knowing it would kill Him. After Ragnarok, He used the oppurtunity to rebuild the world, via scavenging the remains of the old Norse gods. This led him to become the powerful EldritchAbomination billions worship nowadays.
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[[WMG: God is a survivor of [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Ragnarok.]] ]] It was established that NorseMythology Myth/NorseMythology was a precursor to Literature/TheBible. In this way, God(or YHWH, to be more accurate) may have been a deity from the Norse pantheon-one that was very obscure. Unlike the other gods, YHWH actively tried to hide from Ragnarok, knowing it would kill Him. After Ragnarok, He used the oppurtunity to rebuild the world, via scavenging the remains of the old Norse gods. This led him to become the powerful EldritchAbomination billions worship nowadays.
14th Sep '15 1:39:34 PM Kain_Larsen
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* What about Helios/Helium?
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