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21st Jan '16 6:49:55 AM supershadow2021
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* Or the party might contact her off screen when they arrive, telling her where they are and they need her.
11th Feb '15 8:34:17 PM Leaper
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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.
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Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.bomb. * Actually, they have both; there are several times when fonons and atoms are mentioned in the same breath. Not that this changes the possibility of fonic bombs.
11th Jan '15 2:13:22 PM esq263
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Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.
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Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.Fonon. [[WMG: Auldrant has nukes.]] Or at least, something very much like nukes. In one of the group's visits to Peony's palace, Jade makes a throwaway comment about a fonic bomb, to which Peony responds with an uncharacteristic DudeNotFunny. Recall that fonons are Auldrant's versions of atoms, in that they make up everything. Thus, a fonic bomb would be Auldrant's analogue of an atomic bomb.
18th Aug '14 3:27:04 AM Technicolourtardis
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If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.
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If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.person. [[WMG: Related to the above, the Contamination Effect works differently for Luke and Asch than anyone else.]] Jade seems to start to suggest to Dist once the Catalyst sidequest wraps up that it's possible that Luke would be the one to survive the Big Bang. While it could be chalked up to a desperate wish because he's actually friends with Luke and not Asch, but that's not how Jade works. He doesn't place value in false hopes or things that aren't possible. Jade also says that fomicry can't make isofons, way back before Akzeriuth. So therefore, it's entirely possible that the only reason Luke and Asch are perfect is isofons because Asch was (somehow) born with the exact same fonon frequency as the Seventh Fonon.
12th Apr '14 2:04:22 PM Viira
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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney Kristoph]] is [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Jade's]] Evil twin.]]
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[[WMG: [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney [[Franchise/AceAttorney Kristoph]] is [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss Jade's]] Evil twin.]]
19th Nov '13 1:49:10 PM Technicolourtardis
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** They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.
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** * They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.
19th Nov '13 1:48:07 PM Technicolourtardis
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** They probably ''were'' friends. The way Anise's parents talk about Arietta, it sounds like this is the case. It's very likely they trained to be puppeteers at the same time, and became good friends through the fact that they possessed the same amount of talent and both were probably the youngest trainees (which is what Anise's special chapter in the Manga implies; Anise was the youngest trainee). Maybe they both worked together to become just as strong as everyone else, and taught each other spells. I'd actually go so far as to say that when their friendship went sour, it was sometime after Dist modified Tokunaga for Anise. I got the impression that was unique to her as far as puppeteer work goes BECAUSE Dist was the one who modified him for her. Until then, it's safe to assume Anise used Tokunaga the same way Arietta uses her own doll. After that, Anise became ''better'' at puppeteering than Arietta and as we learn in the skit "A Lady's Secret", Anise keeps how it works a secret (that, or because Dist did it, she doesn't actually know). If she wasn't able to explain it, that would probably upset Arietta, but ''not'' enough to wreck their friendship. I'd say Anise and Arietta began to drift apart after Arietta was put on as Ion's guardian but remained friends despite this, and the "traitor" thing was Arietta being removed as Ion's Fon Master Guard and being replaced with Anise who I think thought she'd be working ''with'' Arietta, not replacing her, since I believe she didn't know exactly when Arietta was pulled out as a Fon Master Guard (I believe she says at one point in a conversation with either Ion or Largo something like "Hey, two years ago was when I was made a Fon Master Guard!" and the topic of conversation was Arietta's removal as a Guard because of Ion). Anise is a traitor because she replaced Arietta, then proceeded to fall in love with the same person as Arietta herself loved, and again surpassed Arietta.
9th Nov '13 4:02:31 PM esq263
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If you look at a book in the Daath library, you can read that one year on Auldrant is approximatively twice as long as a year on Earth. However, characters don't seem to be twice as old as their given age would be.
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If you look at a book in the Daath library, you can read that one year on Auldrant is approximatively twice as long as a year on Earth. However, characters don't seem to be twice as old as their given age would be.be. [[WMG: In the ending, Asch and Luke are re-merged into one person]] If you look at the part at Ortion Cavern and the contamination sidequest, you may recall that both Asch and Luke were doomed because of the Big Bang effect. This, combined with the deaths of the originals when Van was making all those replicas, suggests that something is taken from the originals to make replicas, meaning that both original and replica are somehow incomplete. Additionally, the title song, Karma, talks about the two becoming one [[http://www.animelyrics.com/game/talesoftheabyss/karma.htm (translation here)]]. Moreover, the person in the end who returns has characteristics of both Asch and Luke. Conclusion, Luke and Asch are re-merged into one person.
27th Apr '13 4:02:31 PM JIKTV
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** It's easy to justify the age difference: their parents had each of them and gave Van that NameToRunAwayFromReallyFast [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because The Score Said To]]. If ''Van'' was allowed to read the seventh fonstone as a child, whichever one of his parents was descended from Yulia certainly did, meaning they must have been aware that Van was going to destroy Hod. That just adds another level of hell to Van's already awful childhood...
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** It's easy to justify the age difference: their parents had each of them and gave Van that NameToRunAwayFromReallyFast [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Name to Run Away From Really Fast]] [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because The Score Said To]]. If ''Van'' was allowed to read the seventh fonstone as a child, whichever one of his parents was descended from Yulia certainly did, meaning they must have been aware that Van was going to destroy Hod. That just adds another level of hell to Van's already awful childhood...
8th Oct '12 1:45:13 AM Technicolourtardis
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*** Actually, the destruction of Hod was on the Sixth Fonstone, which ends in ND2018. Hod was destroyed in ND2002.
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