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** That wouldn't apply, 'cos even if Guinan was a Time Lady she wouldn't be a Time Lady from the Doctor's universe.
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* Perhaps in the Star Trek universe that universe's version of the plan from ''The End of Time'' worked and they ascended to become the Q, in so doing destroying that universe's version of the Daleks but managing not to wreck the rest of the universe in the process.
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* Most likely {{Jossed}}; the flashback with the Fourth Doctor clearly shows Shatner and Nimoy as Kirk and Spock instead of Pine and Quinto.
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By Picard's time, the effects of the Kelvin event have mostly leveled out, resulting in a CloseEnoughTimeline. My reasoning is that the Kelvin event must have somehow been a consequence of temporal meddling in the Great Time War.
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By Picard's time, the effects of the Kelvin event have mostly leveled out, resulting in a CloseEnoughTimeline. My reasoning is that the Kelvin event must have somehow been a consequence of temporal meddling in the Great Time War.
War, and post-Time War Doctors should be confined to the revised timeline.
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* The War Doctor failed to prevent [[Film/{{StarTrek}} a massive timeline diversion]] during the Great Time War
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* The Eight Doctor investigated temporal disruptions in the [[StarTrekEnterprise 22nd century]]
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* I can't recall if this was hinted at, but... how can she interact with the Eleventh Doctor if this is the case? I thought the time lock prevented this, which is why the nuDoctor doesn't bump into old chums all the time.
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[[WMG: This series actually takes place in the Kelvin timeline]]
By Picard's time, the effects of the Kelvin event have mostly leveled out, resulting in a CloseEnoughTimeline. My reasoning is that the Kelvin event must have somehow been a consequence of temporal meddling in the Great Time War.
[[WMG: The Doctor has been on the ''Enterprise'' at other points in history]]
Find your own explanation for his faulty memory, but:
* The Eight Doctor investigated temporal disruptions in the [[StarTrekEnterprise 22nd century]]
* The War Doctor failed to prevent [[Film/{{StarTrek}} a massive temporal disruption]] during the Great Time War
* At some point Q turned the crew of (an uncertain incarnation of) the ''Enterprise'' into the Knights of the Round Table, and [[Recap/{{DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield}} the Doctor served as their "Merlin"]]
By Picard's time, the effects of the Kelvin event have mostly leveled out, resulting in a CloseEnoughTimeline. My reasoning is that the Kelvin event must have somehow been a consequence of temporal meddling in the Great Time War.
[[WMG: The Doctor has been on the ''Enterprise'' at other points in history]]
Find your own explanation for his faulty memory, but:
* The Eight Doctor investigated temporal disruptions in the [[StarTrekEnterprise 22nd century]]
* The War Doctor failed to prevent [[Film/{{StarTrek}} a massive temporal disruption]] during the Great Time War
* At some point Q turned the crew of (an uncertain incarnation of) the ''Enterprise'' into the Knights of the Round Table, and [[Recap/{{DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield}} the Doctor served as their "Merlin"]]
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This temporal disruption is why the Doctor's memories of things like Klingons and the Federation are so inconsistent- his knowledge of history is perfect but gets a bit of a diffraction pattern in his head trying to work out if the events are fictional or not. The intention behind this sinister plot is not yet clear to me, but it may be another attempt to squash humanity's spacefaring spirit to make them less formidable foes in the future... somehow.
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This temporal disruption is why the Doctor's memories of things like Klingons and the Federation are so inconsistent- he remembers the Federation as both a laughable Earth fiction to be dismissed and genuine history, simultaneously, and consequently his knowledge memory goes into a weird kind of history is perfect but gets a bit of a diffraction pattern in his head trying to work out if the events are fictional or not.pattern. The intention behind this sinister plot is not yet clear to me, but it may be another attempt to squash humanity's spacefaring spirit to make them less formidable foes in the future... somehow.
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[[WGM: The Borg and the Cybermen are two splinter fleets of the same "race"]]
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This temporal disruption is why the Doctor's memories of things like Klingons and the Federation are so inconsistent- his knowledge of history is perfect but gets a bit of a diffraction pattern in his head trying to work out if the events are fictional or not. The intention behind this sinister plot is not yet clear to me, but it may be another attempt to squash humanity's spacefaring spirit to make them less formidable foes in the future.
future... somehow.
[[WGM: The Borg and the Cybermen are two splinter fleets of the same "race"]]
''Tenth Planet'' confirms that the original Cybermen came from Mondas, a planet that inexplicably wandered out of its (our) solar system. Suppose that at one point the world wandered into the Delta Quadrant and some of the recent Cybermen used their then-still-rudimentary spacefaring technology to spread into other worlds in that area. Divergent evolution in their mechanization techniques led different batches on different worlds to have slightly different characteristics, but they do share an origin.
[[WGM: The Borg and the Cybermen are two splinter fleets of the same "race"]]
''Tenth Planet'' confirms that the original Cybermen came from Mondas, a planet that inexplicably wandered out of its (our) solar system. Suppose that at one point the world wandered into the Delta Quadrant and some of the recent Cybermen used their then-still-rudimentary spacefaring technology to spread into other worlds in that area. Divergent evolution in their mechanization techniques led different batches on different worlds to have slightly different characteristics, but they do share an origin.
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[[WMG: The Borg/Cybermen used time travel to create the ''Star Trek'' TV series]]
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[[WMG: The reason the Cybermen in ''Nightmare in Silver'' are like the Borg (the ability of rapid adaption) is due to this encounter.]]
Furthermore, the cyber pollen seen in ''Death in Heaven'' are a result of reverse-engineering Borg nanoprobes.
[[WMG: The reason Star Trek is Fictional in the Whoniverse is because the thoughts of the writers tuned into events of the other Universe]]
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[[WMG: The reason the Cybermen in ''Nightmare "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Nightmare in Silver'' Silver]]" are like the Borg (the ability of rapid adaption) is due to this encounter.]]
Furthermore, the cyber pollen seen in''Death "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E12DeathInHeaven Death in Heaven'' Heaven]]" are a result of reverse-engineering Borg nanoprobes.
[[WMG: The reasonStar Trek ''Star Trek'' is Fictional fictional in the Whoniverse Franchise/{{Whoniverse}} is because the thoughts of the writers tuned into events of the other Universe]]
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encounter.]]
Furthermore, the cyber pollen seen in ''Death in Heaven'' are a result of reverse-engineering Borg nanoprobes.
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[[WMG:The Merging never ended]]
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* Like with Earth-1 and Earth-2.Earth-2.
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[[WMG: The reason Star Trek is Fictional in the Whoniverse is because the thoughts of the writers tuned into events of the other Universe]]
* Like with Earth-1 and Earth-2.
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* Like with Earth-1 and Earth-2.
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You know it is.
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You know it is.is.
[[WMG: The reason the Cybermen in Nightmare in Silver are like the Borg is due to this encounter]]
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It's all too easy to extrapolate from the end of the final issue, with the Borg stating that they intend to master time travel as a result of their experience with the Cybermen and the Doctor. Kinda makes the whole thing a bit of a NiceJobBreakingItHero moment for the Doc...
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It's all too easy to extrapolate from the end of the final issue, with the Borg stating that they intend to master time travel as a result of their experience with the Cybermen and the Doctor. Kinda makes the whole thing a bit of a NiceJobBreakingItHero moment for the Doc...Doc...
[[WMG: The merging of the ''Series/StarTrek'' and ''Series/DoctorWho'' universes is [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's]] fault.]]
You know it is.
[[WMG: The merging of the ''Series/StarTrek'' and ''Series/DoctorWho'' universes is [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's]] fault.]]
You know it is.
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[[WMG: The events of the crossover indirectly lead to StarTrekFirstContact happening]]
It's all too easy to extrapolate from the end of the final issue, with the Borg stating that they intend to master time travel as a result of their experience with the Cybermen and the Doctor. Kinda makes the whole thing a bit of a NiceJobBreakingItHero moment for the Doc...
[[WMG: The events of the crossover indirectly lead to StarTrekFirstContact happening]]
It's all too easy to extrapolate from the end of the final issue, with the Borg stating that they intend to master time travel as a result of their experience with the Cybermen and the Doctor. Kinda makes the whole thing a bit of a NiceJobBreakingItHero moment for the Doc...
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Hence why Star Trek is able to simultaneously exist in a parallel universe and be a TV show that Rose ([[DoctorWhoMagazine and Izzy]]) have previously referenced.
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Hence why Star Trek is able to simultaneously exist in a parallel universe and be a TV show that Rose ([[DoctorWhoMagazine ([[Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine and Izzy]]) have previously referenced.
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Hence why Star Trek is able to simultaneously exist in a parallel universe and be a TV show that Rose ([[DoctorWhoMagazine and Izzy]]) have previously referenced.
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[[WMG: Guinan is a Time Lady]]
Go reread her conversation with the Doctor, it might as well be official.
[[WMG: Guinan is a Time Lady]]
Go reread her conversation with the Doctor, it might as well be official.
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[[WMG: Qs are time lords. Gallifrey is the Q-Continuum.]]
Obvious, really.
Obvious, really.
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[[WMG: GeneRoddenberry is a Time Lord]]
Hence why Star Trek is able to simultaneously exist in a parallel universe and be a TV show that Rose ([[DoctorWhoMagazine and Izzy]]) have previously referenced.
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[[WMG: Q will ally himself with the Federation against the Borg and Cybermen]]
