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23rd Nov '17 11:12:01 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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[WMG: ''Star Trek XII'' will suck.]]

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[WMG: [[WMG: ''Star Trek XII'' will suck.]]
23rd Nov '17 11:11:42 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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[[WMG: "Khan" isn't a name.]]

It's a title. In Into Darkness, [[spoiler: John Harrison/Khan]] is never referred to as Khan Noonien Singh. He only identifies himself as Khan, the only person referring to him by the full name being Old!Spock. It's obvious [[spoiler: John Harrison]] does not originate from northern India, like the OS Khan, and even the technology of 2259 would not allow for plastic surgery that good. The only reasonable explanation is that the Khan seen in Into Darkness is not the same Khan who battled the Enterprise in the OS and the second movie, and instead is an epithet applied to prominent people during the Eugenics War. Confusion has resulted in many believing it to be Noonien Singh's name, similar to how many believe Mahatma to be Gandhi's first name, which he encouraged due to the level of fear it carried. The Khan in Into Darkness likely took the same name out of either arrogance, or believed it to be an inherited title for whoever was in charge.

As for what happened to the OS Khan, it's possible he either died when awakened (when he was awoken in Space Seed, it must be noted he coded and had to be broken out, something which may not have been done by a group not led by the impulsive Kirk) or was deemed too dangerous and swiftly dealt with in the only way Marcus would have approved of.
23rd Nov '17 11:07:03 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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[[WMG: Khan looks like a European in the movie "Into Darkness" because he's had his appearance changed]]
It would help to conceal his identity, after all one of the worst dictators in the history of the world would be pretty recognisable. Changing his face and skin colour could have been an extra precaution in case somebody got hold of an image of him.

[[WMG: As of Into Darkness the Enterprise A has been retconned into the circular ship on Marcus' desk.]]
There's a collection of models on Marcus' desk representing the progression to and of spaceflight. We can recognise all the ships until a one with 2 circular portions around a central pillar. First Contact indirectly suggests that there was no significant space flight before first contact as spaceships (even at least one or two could have survived the war) are not dispatched to investigate the Enterprise and there are no mention of any habitats on the moon or anywhere outside of Earth. Also it would be way cooler than the Enterprise A we got and answer the question "why did the Federation go with the human design and abandon their own ship layout?". The Answer could be that the current Federation ships are different from everybody's ship designs.
* Jossed. There's a list of what the ships were here: http://io9.com/a-close-up-look-at-the-star-trek-easter-egg-you-might-h-509076595

[WMG: ''Star Trek XII'' will suck.]]
* Some people have joked that ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' was the best ''Star Trek'' movie ever made. If we accept this theory, then ''Galaxy Quest'' was really ''Star Trek X'', ''Nemesis'' was the 11th movie, and the 2009 film was 12th. Ergo, the [[StarTrekMoviecurse even/odd curse]] plaguing the movies was never broken and the twelfth film, which is really the ''thirteenth'', will suck.
** Well, it did...
*** Your Mileage May ''Greatly'' Vary on that one.

15th Sep '17 9:03:15 PM Mysterion
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[[WMG: Marcus had ''nothing to do with'' Pike joining Starfleet]]
He brings up the possibility in a transparent attempt to manipulate Kirk, and never actually says the answer to the question of who brought Pike into Starfleet was him. Not a trustworthy source of info.

2nd Sep '16 6:07:00 PM WiddershinsDaughter
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* Since war with the Klingons was not averted in this film, and may in fact now be inevitable, the next film will be about preventing that war from occuring. The "face" for the Klingons and the film's main antagonist will be General Kor, the original Klingon villain from the TOS episode "Day of the Dove". In this era, Kor would still be at the height of his career as one of the Empire's premier warriors (and being essentially nobility doesn't hurt either) and if war with the Federation does come, it would be likely he'd be one of the people in charge of the invasion force. Plus it would just be a nice tip of the hat to the franchise's first-ever Klingon villain to get a chance as a movie antagonist. Kang and Koloth may also have smaller roles as Kor's CoDragons.

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* Since war with the Klingons was not averted in this film, and may in fact now be inevitable, the next film will be about preventing that war from occuring. The "face" for the Klingons and the film's main antagonist will be General Kor, the original Klingon villain from the TOS episode "Day of the Dove". In this era, Kor would still be at the height of his career as one of the Empire's premier warriors (and being essentially nobility doesn't hurt either) and if war with the Federation does come, it would be likely he'd be one of the people in charge of the invasion force. Plus it would just be a nice tip of the hat to the franchise's first-ever Klingon villain to get a chance as a movie antagonist. Kang and Koloth may m.ay also have smaller roles as Kor's CoDragons.




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** In colloquial English, "Data" is treated as a collective noun, and increasingly "data" and "datum" are used interchangably.
7th Aug '16 9:32:22 AM StarformDCX
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* Jossed.



[[WMG:Garth of Izar is the threat within Starfleet,Mitchell is the Person of Mass destruction...and is on Kirk's side.]]

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[[WMG:Garth [[WMG: Garth of Izar is the threat within Starfleet,Mitchell is the Person of Mass destruction...and is on Kirk's side.]]



* Jossed. [[spoiler:Khan is Harrison, making him the BigBad of this film. Although he could appear in the third film.]]

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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Khan is Harrison, making him the BigBad of this film. Although he could appear in the third film.]]



* Jossed. Spock's Pon Farr was delt with in the After Darkness comics set after the movie.

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* Jossed. Spock's Pon Farr was delt dealt with in the After Darkness comics set after the movie.




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* Jossed.




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* Jossed.




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** Jossed.




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* Jossed.




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* Confirmed.




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* Semi-Confirmed. ''Star Trek Beyond'' does feature Spock Kelvin reacting to Spock Prime's death (and it is ''very'' much RealLifeWritesThePlot), but we don't see Spock Prime's funeral or hear anything about Vulcan-Romulan reconciliation.




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* Confirmed. There's no mention of it (or any of the events of ''Into Darkness'' for that matter) in ''Star Trek Beyond.''
30th Jun '16 4:47:37 PM livestockgeorge
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** Which is a common enough occurence IRL. Many, many primitive cultures have languages far, far, more complex on a grammatical level than say, English. Native American languages and Australian Aboriginal languages are good examples. Advanced civilizations also tend to ''simplify'' their written language for the sake of efficiency.
26th Jun '16 4:05:40 AM HelloLamppost
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It's a complete story-breaker of a technology. We will never hear of it again. Even if it does pop up in some capacity, we ''certainly'' won't see any of the repercussions such a discovery should logically have on life in the Federation.

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It's a complete story-breaker of a technology. We will never hear of it again. again. Even if it does pop up in some capacity, we ''certainly'' won't see any of the repercussions such a discovery should logically have on life in the Federation.
Federation.

For pity's sake, it's ''already'' ForgottenPhlebotinum. The cure for death was discovered 200 years ago ''and forgotten!''
26th Jun '16 4:04:11 AM HelloLamppost
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[[WMG: Khan's resurrection potion blood will become ForgottenPhlebotinum.]]
It's a complete story-breaker of a technology. We will never hear of it again. Even if it does pop up in some capacity, we ''certainly'' won't see any of the repercussions such a discovery should logically have on life in the Federation.

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[[WMG: Khan's resurrection potion blood will become ForgottenPhlebotinum.]]
It's a complete story-breaker of a technology. We will never hear of it again. again. Even if it does pop up in some capacity, we ''certainly'' won't see any of the repercussions such a discovery should logically have on life in the Federation.
26th Jun '16 4:03:33 AM HelloLamppost
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[[WMG: Khan's resurrection potion blood will become ForgottenPhlebotinum.]]
It's a complete story-breaker of a technology. We will never hear of it again. Even if it does pop up in some capacity, we ''certainly'' won't see any of the repercussions such a discovery should logically have on life in the Federation.
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