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* Aaaaaaaaand Brian Fuller is no longer showrunner.
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[[WMG: She starts out as a captain, Bryan Fuller is just trolling us.]]

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[[WMG: She starts out as a captain, Bryan Fuller is just trolling us.]]]]
* What's wrong with a non-captain main character?
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* [[Recap/StarTrekTheOriginalSeriesS3E14WhomGodsDestroy The fall of Garth of Izar.]] Fuller has stated that the main character will start as a Lieutenant Commander and go through several ranks by the time the show's over, and this might be why. Garth begins to [[AGodAmI become more and more unstable and have delusions of grandeur]] until eventually our unnamed protagonist has to step up and take command.

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* [[Recap/StarTrekTheOriginalSeriesS3E14WhomGodsDestroy [[Recap/StarTrekS3E14WhomGodsDestroy The fall of Garth of Izar.]] Fuller has stated that the main character will start as a Lieutenant Commander and go through several ranks by the time the show's over, and this might be why. Garth begins to [[AGodAmI become more and more unstable and have delusions of grandeur]] until eventually our unnamed protagonist has to step up and take command.

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** Possibly even Phlox himself, if Denobulans are that long-lived.



* Another member of the Soong family, probably once again played by [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Brent]] [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Spiner]] as per their tendency towards GenerationXerox.

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* Another member of the Soong family, probably once again played by [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Brent]] [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Spiner]] as per their usual tendency towards GenerationXerox.

[[WMG: The focus of the series will be...be ...]]
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* Another member of the Soong family, probably once again played by [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Brent]] [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Spiner]] as per their tendency towards GenerationXerox.

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* Spock, most likely after the events of "The Cage". Would be interesting to see Spock and the Enterprise in the period between Pike's captaincy and Kirk's.
* James T. Kirk, as a young hot-shot lieutenant serving aboard the USS Farragut (before the tragic accident that killed all of its crew... which actually could be the subject of an episode).
* An aged Admiral Jonathan Archer.

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* Spock, most likely after the events of "The Cage". Would be interesting to see Spock and the Enterprise ''Enterprise'' in the period between Pike's captaincy and Kirk's.
* James T. Kirk, as a young hot-shot lieutenant serving aboard the USS Farragut ''Farragut'' (before the tragic accident that killed all of its crew...crew ... which actually could be the subject of an episode).
* An aged [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Admiral Jonathan Archer.Archer]].




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* Ambassador Sarek and Amanda Grayson, Spock's parents.
* A younger Scotty or [=McCoy=], who were the more veteran members of Kirk's senior staff on the ''Enterprise''. Like Kirk, they would probably be at a lower rank at the time (ensigns or possibly lieutenants).
* Captain Robert April, either at the end of or shortly after his command of the ''Enterprise''.
* Commodore Robert Wesley, the ReasonableAuthorityFigure from "The Ultimate Computer", again earlier in his career (probably a captain).
* Commodore Matthew Decker, long before his DespairEventHorizon in "The Doomsday Machine", possibly with at least a mention of [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture his young son Will]].
* "Number One" first seen in "The Cage", possibly with a full name (finally).
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* [[Recap/StarTrekTheOriginalSeriesS3E14WhomGodsDestroy The fall of Garth of Izar.]] Fuller has stated that the main character will start as a Lieutenant Commander and go through several ranks by the time the show's over, and this might be why. Garth begins to [[AGodAmI become more and more unstable and have delusions of grandeur]] until eventually our unnamed protagonist has to step up and take command.
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* The Klingon War(s), which surprisingly, doesn't have a specific established date in other canon.



* They did make him Gay. Course, it was such a short scene, it could have been Sulu's brother, or friend, or babysitter of his daughter. But the writers confirmed it. While I did not like how they made him gay... And made it last half a minute of something of unimportance, Star Trek did have a same sex kiss. Course, the main character being a lesbian is a good idea of importance, and the franchise has been famous for how the original series being progressive. Hell, Roddenberry would have made Sulu gay if he wasn't afraid of the show being cancelled, so it makes sense to bring more LGBT characters.

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* They did make him Gay. Course, it was such a short scene, it could have been Sulu's brother, or friend, or babysitter of his daughter. But the writers confirmed it. While I did not like how they made him gay... And made it last half a minute of something of unimportance, Star Trek did have a same sex kiss. Course, the main character being a lesbian is a good idea of importance, and the franchise has been famous for how the original series being progressive. Hell, Roddenberry would have made Sulu gay if he wasn't afraid of the show being cancelled, so it makes sense to bring more LGBT characters.
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What if the as-yet-unidentified lead character overcomes personal and professional struggles to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn the captaincy]] of the ''Discovery'' after one or more seasons? It wouldn't be unprecedented for the lead character of the series to change in rank -- Sisko went from Commander to Captain during the run of [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] (although he commanded the titular station the whole time). It might also be [[YouGoGirl more relatable and more satisfying]] than in ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', where Captain Janeway was introduced fully-formed and her backstory was generally AllThereInTheManual (or [[WordOfGod the novels]]). DSC would probably evolve from a LowerDeckEpisode type of series to a more traditionally-focused ''Trek'' series along the way.

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What if the as-yet-unidentified lead character overcomes personal and professional struggles to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn the captaincy]] of the ''Discovery'' after one or more seasons? It wouldn't be unprecedented for the lead character of the series to change in rank -- Sisko went from Commander to Captain during the run of [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] (although he commanded the titular station the whole time). It might also be [[YouGoGirl more relatable and more satisfying]] than in ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', where Captain Janeway was introduced fully-formed and her backstory was generally AllThereInTheManual (or [[WordOfGod the novels]]). DSC would probably evolve from a LowerDeckEpisode type of series to a more traditionally-focused ''Trek'' series along the way.way.

[[WMG:Alternatively, she becomes captain in episode 1, and gets officially promoted at the end of season 1.]]
The original captain and XO die in combat, and she takes command at the rank of Lt.Cmdr. At some point, like in DS9, she gets promoted to an actual captain.

[[WMG: She starts out as a captain, Bryan Fuller is just trolling us.]]
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What if the as-yet-unidentified lead character overcomes personal and professional struggles to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn the captaincy]] of the ''Discovery'' after one or more seasons? It wouldn't be unprecedented for the lead character of the series to change in rank -- Sisko went from Commander to Captain during the run of [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] (although he commanded the titular station the whole time). It might also be [[YouGoGirl more relatable and more satisfying]] than in ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', where Captain Janeway was introduced fully-formed and her backstory was generally AllThereInTheManual (or [[WordOfGod the novels]]). DSC would probably evolve from a LowerDecksEpisode type of series to a more traditionally-focused ''Trek'' series along the way.

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What if the as-yet-unidentified lead character overcomes personal and professional struggles to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn the captaincy]] of the ''Discovery'' after one or more seasons? It wouldn't be unprecedented for the lead character of the series to change in rank -- Sisko went from Commander to Captain during the run of [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] (although he commanded the titular station the whole time). It might also be [[YouGoGirl more relatable and more satisfying]] than in ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', where Captain Janeway was introduced fully-formed and her backstory was generally AllThereInTheManual (or [[WordOfGod the novels]]). DSC would probably evolve from a LowerDecksEpisode LowerDeckEpisode type of series to a more traditionally-focused ''Trek'' series along the way.
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* They did make him Gay. Course, it was such a short scene, it could have been Sulu's brother, or friend, or babysitter of his daughter. But the writers confirmed it. While I did not like how they made him gay... And made it last half a minute of something of unimportance, Star Trek did have a same sex kiss. Course, the main character being a lesbian is a good idea of importance, and the franchise has been famous for how the original series being progressive. Hell, Roddenberry would have made Sulu gay if he wasn't afraid of the show being cancelled, so it makes sense to bring more LGBT characters.

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* They did make him Gay. Course, it was such a short scene, it could have been Sulu's brother, or friend, or babysitter of his daughter. But the writers confirmed it. While I did not like how they made him gay... And made it last half a minute of something of unimportance, Star Trek did have a same sex kiss. Course, the main character being a lesbian is a good idea of importance, and the franchise has been famous for how the original series being progressive. Hell, Roddenberry would have made Sulu gay if he wasn't afraid of the show being cancelled, so it makes sense to bring more LGBT characters.characters.

[[WMG:The female lead character will ''eventually'' become the captain of the USS ''Discovery'']]
Bryan Fuller recently revealed that the main protagonist, while female, is a lieutenant-commander instead of TheCaptain, and that somewhat of [[CharacterArc a personal journey]] is in store for them. It's a fairly senior rank, probably not enough to make the lead character [[NumberTwo the first officer]], but certainly enough to make them the head of a shipboard department (e.g. science officer, chief engineer, etc.) at the start of the series. The other main characters could be her immediate colleagues or subordinates as well as some of the other senior officers on the ship.

What if the as-yet-unidentified lead character overcomes personal and professional struggles to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn the captaincy]] of the ''Discovery'' after one or more seasons? It wouldn't be unprecedented for the lead character of the series to change in rank -- Sisko went from Commander to Captain during the run of [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine DS9]] (although he commanded the titular station the whole time). It might also be [[YouGoGirl more relatable and more satisfying]] than in ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'', where Captain Janeway was introduced fully-formed and her backstory was generally AllThereInTheManual (or [[WordOfGod the novels]]). DSC would probably evolve from a LowerDecksEpisode type of series to a more traditionally-focused ''Trek'' series along the way.
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* [[http://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/699051/Star-Trek-Discovery-female-lead-LGBT-crew-member-Bryan-Fuller Confirmed]]
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The franchise, as progressive as it is, has taken flak recently for never having a single LGBT character (though, admittedly, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' is probably the only show where this would have even been a possibility). They briefly considered [[AdaptationalSexuality making Sulu gay]] in the reboot films, though, thankfully, they decided against altering an established character. Come on, this is the franchise that featured one of the [[StarTrekS3E10PlatosStepchildren first interracial kisses]] on television, included a Russian character during the height of the Cold War, and put a [[Series/StarTrekVoyager woman in command of a military vessel]] decades before American women could even serve in combat. Each series has reflected the sociopolitical issues of its time, so, for a new ''Trek'' show airing in TheNewTens, the time seems ripe for an LGBT main character.

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The franchise, as progressive as it is, has taken flak recently for never having a single LGBT character (though, admittedly, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' is probably the only show where this would have even been a possibility). They briefly considered [[AdaptationalSexuality making Sulu gay]] in the reboot films, though, thankfully, they decided against altering an established character. Come on, this is the franchise that featured one of the [[StarTrekS3E10PlatosStepchildren first interracial kisses]] on television, included a Russian character during the height of the Cold War, and put a [[Series/StarTrekVoyager woman in command of a military vessel]] decades before American women could even serve in combat. Each series has reflected the sociopolitical issues of its time, so, for a new ''Trek'' show airing in TheNewTens, the time seems ripe for an LGBT main character.character.
*They did make him Gay. Course, it was such a short scene, it could have been Sulu's brother, or friend, or babysitter of his daughter. But the writers confirmed it. While I did not like how they made him gay... And made it last half a minute of something of unimportance, Star Trek did have a same sex kiss. Course, the main character being a lesbian is a good idea of importance, and the franchise has been famous for how the original series being progressive. Hell, Roddenberry would have made Sulu gay if he wasn't afraid of the show being cancelled, so it makes sense to bring more LGBT characters.

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* James T Kirk, as a young hot-shot lieutenant serving aboard the USS Farragut (before the tragic accident that killed all of its crew...which actually could be the subject of an episode).
* An aged Admiral Archer.

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* James T T. Kirk, as a young hot-shot lieutenant serving aboard the USS Farragut (before the tragic accident that killed all of its crew...crew... which actually could be the subject of an episode).
* An aged Admiral Archer.Jonathan Archer.
* T'Pol, who, as a Vulcan, would presumably still be alive.




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* A member of the Denobulan species, who are chronologically subjected to ChuckCunninghamSyndrome after ''Enterprise''.
* Christopher Pike, who would be either captain of the ''Enterprise'' or a fleet captain depending on the time.
* M'Ress or Arex from ''[[WesternAnimation/StarTrekTheAnimatedSeries The Animated Series]]'', as CGI has advanced enough to make this possible in live action.
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The franchise has taken flak for never having a single LGBT character (though, admittedly, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' is probably the only show where this would have even been a possibility). They even considered [[AdaptationalSexuality making Sulu gay]] in the reboot films, though, thankfully, they decided against altering an established character. Come on, this is the franchise that featured one of the [[StarTrekS3E10PlatosStepchildren first interracial kisses]] on television, included a Russian character during the height of the Cold War, and put a [[Series/StarTrekVoyager woman in command of a military vessel]] decades before American women could even serve in combat. Each series has reflected the sociopolitical issues of its time, so, for a new ''Trek'' show airing in TheNewTens, the time seems ripe for an LGBT main character.

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The franchise franchise, as progressive as it is, has taken flak recently for never having a single LGBT character (though, admittedly, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' is probably the only show where this would have even been a possibility). They even briefly considered [[AdaptationalSexuality making Sulu gay]] in the reboot films, though, thankfully, they decided against altering an established character. Come on, this is the franchise that featured one of the [[StarTrekS3E10PlatosStepchildren first interracial kisses]] on television, included a Russian character during the height of the Cold War, and put a [[Series/StarTrekVoyager woman in command of a military vessel]] decades before American women could even serve in combat. Each series has reflected the sociopolitical issues of its time, so, for a new ''Trek'' show airing in TheNewTens, the time seems ripe for an LGBT main character.
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* [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E2TheEnsignsOfCommand The Treaty of Armens]].

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* [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E2TheEnsignsOfCommand The Treaty of Armens]].Armens]].

[[WMG:The series will have an LGBT main character.]]
The franchise has taken flak for never having a single LGBT character (though, admittedly, ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' is probably the only show where this would have even been a possibility). They even considered [[AdaptationalSexuality making Sulu gay]] in the reboot films, though, thankfully, they decided against altering an established character. Come on, this is the franchise that featured one of the [[StarTrekS3E10PlatosStepchildren first interracial kisses]] on television, included a Russian character during the height of the Cold War, and put a [[Series/StarTrekVoyager woman in command of a military vessel]] decades before American women could even serve in combat. Each series has reflected the sociopolitical issues of its time, so, for a new ''Trek'' show airing in TheNewTens, the time seems ripe for an LGBT main character.
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* Captain Jean Luc Picard (reprised by Patrick Stewart), via TimeTravel.

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* Captain Jean Luc Picard (reprised by Patrick Stewart), via TimeTravel.TimeTravel.

[[WMG: The focus of the series will be...]]
Bryan Fuller has indicated that ''Discovery'' will be set a decade before the events of ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'', and will focus on "an incident in the history of Starfleet that had been talked about but never fully explored". Possible events include:
* The USS ''Farragut'' [[Recap/StarTrekS2E13Obsession encounters a deadly cloud]].
* [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E2TheEnsignsOfCommand The Treaty of Armens]].
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Unlike a stereotypical Orion woman, she'll be a very professional officer who wears a normal uniform and wants people to appreciate her for her mind.

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Unlike a stereotypical Orion woman, she'll be a very professional officer who wears a normal uniform and wants people to appreciate her for her mind.mind.

[[WMG: Characters from previous shows who could possibly appear in ''Discovery'']]
Fuller has already confirmed that after the first season, he's open to re-introducing characters from elsewhere in the Star Trek mythology. Possible inclusions, given the time period-
* Spock, most likely after the events of "The Cage". Would be interesting to see Spock and the Enterprise in the period between Pike's captaincy and Kirk's.
* James T Kirk, as a young hot-shot lieutenant serving aboard the USS Farragut (before the tragic accident that killed all of its crew...which actually could be the subject of an episode).
* An aged Admiral Archer.
* Captain Jean Luc Picard (reprised by Patrick Stewart), via TimeTravel.
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* Jossed. A woman will be a main character, but not a captain.

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* Jossed. A woman will be a main character, but not a captain.
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*Jossed. A woman will be a main character, but not a captain.

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* Counterpoint: It is confirmed that the design of the USS Discovery is not finalized. The registry number may be subject to change. Further, although all the other StarTrek series (except DeepSpaceNine) took place on cutting-edge starships, the Discovery may be some relic pulled out of storage for whatever reason.
* [[http://www.fiz-x.com/star-trek-discovery-happens-original-star-trek/ Confirmed by Bryan Fuller.]] The registry number was a deliberate hint to the date.
** No, not confirmed. The ship design has been said by Heather Kadin to be subject to change, so that number is itself unconfirmed.

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* Counterpoint: It is confirmed that the design of the USS Discovery is not finalized. The registry number may be subject to change. Further, although all the other StarTrek series (except DeepSpaceNine) took place on cutting-edge starships, the Discovery may be some relic pulled out of storage for whatever reason.
* [[http://www.fiz-x.com/star-trek-discovery-happens-original-star-trek/ Confirmed by Bryan Fuller.]] The registry number was a deliberate hint to the date.
** No, not confirmed. The ship design has been said by Heather Kadin to be subject to change, so that number is itself unconfirmed.
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** The time frame is ten years before TOS. There most definitely will not be Klingons on Discovery.
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* Not likely given the time period.

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* Not likely given the time period.period.

[[WMG: An Orion woman will be a main character.]]
Unlike a stereotypical Orion woman, she'll be a very professional officer who wears a normal uniform and wants people to appreciate her for her mind.
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* No, not confirmed. The ship design has been said by Heather Kadin to be subject to change, so that number is itself unconfirmed.

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* ** No, not confirmed. The ship design has been said by Heather Kadin to be subject to change, so that number is itself unconfirmed.
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* No, not confirmed. The ship design has been said by Heather Kadin to be subject to change, so that number is itself unconfirmed.

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* [[http://www.fiz-x.com/star-trek-discovery-happens-original-star-trek/ Confirmed by Bryan Fuller.]] The registry number was a deliberate hint to the date.



The ship design looks like they grafted a Saucer onto a Klingon ship, and the music on the trailer that introduced it has a lot of Klingon-sounding drums.

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The ship design looks like they grafted a Saucer onto a Klingon ship, and the music on the trailer that introduced it has a lot of Klingon-sounding drums.drums.
* Not likely given the time period.
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* Counterpoint: It is confirmed that the design of the USS Discovery is not finalized. The registry number may be subject to change. Further, although all the other StarTrek series (except DeepSpaceNine) took place on cutting-edge starships, the Discovery may be

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* Counterpoint: It is confirmed that the design of the USS Discovery is not finalized. The registry number may be subject to change. Further, although all the other StarTrek series (except DeepSpaceNine) took place on cutting-edge starships, the Discovery may be
be some relic pulled out of storage for whatever reason.
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If only so Janeway is no longer the only woman in command of a ship in this franchise.

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If only so Janeway is no longer the only woman in command of a ship in this franchise.franchise.

[[WMG: The Discovery will have a mixed Federation/Klingon crew]]
The ship design looks like they grafted a Saucer onto a Klingon ship, and the music on the trailer that introduced it has a lot of Klingon-sounding drums.
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* Counterpoint: It is confirmed that the design of the USS Discovery is not finalized. The registry number may be subject to change. Further, although all the other StarTrek series (except DeepSpaceNine) took place on cutting-edge starships, the Discovery may be

[[WMG:StarTrekDiscovery will be set after StarTrekVoyager.]]
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The design of the ''Discovery'' is very old-school, and the registry number is lower than that of the classic ''Enterprise''.

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The design of the ''Discovery'' is very old-school, and the registry number is lower than that of the classic ''Enterprise''.''Enterprise''.

[[WMG: The captain of the the USS Discovery will be a woman.]]
If only so Janeway is no longer the only woman in command of a ship in this franchise.
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[[WMG:''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' is such a paradoxical achievement that it will cause the universe as we know it to collapse.]]
[[Franchise/StarTrek A fifty-year franchise]] in the hands of TV's most ScrewedByTheNetwork showrunner? If that's not a matter-antimatter mix right there, I don't know what is.

[[WMG:''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' will be set between ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' and ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''.]]
The design of the ''Discovery'' is very old-school, and the registry number is lower than that of the classic ''Enterprise''.

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