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[[WMG: Sarina Douglass will eventually work with, and becomes friends with, [[StarTrekVoyager Seven of Nine]].]]
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[[WMG: The Cardassians worshiped the Prophets, but under another name.]]
The lightship made it to a more prosperous Cardassia Prime. The pilot, unable to return to Bajor, taught the Cardassians the Bajoran religion, which became immensely popular. When the Bajorans and the Cardassians made contact, the similar religions actually became a talking point, and Bajor found out about the legend of the Bajoran pilot. Then the Cardassians became impoverished, and their government became intensely nationalistic. A combination of the Prophets never showing up and distaste towards 'foreign influences' caused the religion to dwindle into nothingness, but that still left a key aspect of their society that could potentially be traced back to another planet (not to mention one that had offered no comfort during the famine). Thus, Bajor became a target for 'uplifting', and the Occupation began.
The lightship made it to a more prosperous Cardassia Prime. The pilot, unable to return to Bajor, taught the Cardassians the Bajoran religion, which became immensely popular. When the Bajorans and the Cardassians made contact, the similar religions actually became a talking point, and Bajor found out about the legend of the Bajoran pilot. Then the Cardassians became impoverished, and their government became intensely nationalistic. A combination of the Prophets never showing up and distaste towards 'foreign influences' caused the religion to dwindle into nothingness, but that still left a key aspect of their society that could potentially be traced back to another planet (not to mention one that had offered no comfort during the famine). Thus, Bajor became a target for 'uplifting', and the Occupation began.
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* However, when your life is automatically valued less than a parasite that screws with your personality by an organization that sees no harm in lying and letting people die for that lie, feelings of inferiority might be the least of your worries. Who knows how bad things might have been in just before they showed up in TNG?
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[[WMG: Research on Defiant was shut down just to get rid of Sisko.]]
Years of research results in a ship that almost destroys itself, but they don't just scale it down to something manageable? Given Sisko had yet to get over his wife's death, it's not hard to imagine that he kept demanding more power, even when it was impractical. Eventually, the sympathy ran out, and Utopia Planitia got the project shut down out of irritation-induced spite. Then, once Sisko was on his way to somewhere out of the way and their heads cooled slightly, they restarted the project and actually made a ship that worked. Sisko didn't mention this in Emissary because, at that point, he was too embarrassed by his behavior.
Years of research results in a ship that almost destroys itself, but they don't just scale it down to something manageable? Given Sisko had yet to get over his wife's death, it's not hard to imagine that he kept demanding more power, even when it was impractical. Eventually, the sympathy ran out, and Utopia Planitia got the project shut down out of irritation-induced spite. Then, once Sisko was on his way to somewhere out of the way and their heads cooled slightly, they restarted the project and actually made a ship that worked. Sisko didn't mention this in Emissary because, at that point, he was too embarrassed by his behavior.
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[[WMG: Keiko was adopted.]]
Hence her mother being 100 years old. She adopted Keiko when she was in her sixties.
Hence her mother being 100 years old. She adopted Keiko when she was in her sixties.
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'''The JustifyingEdit:''' In real militaries, an informal part of [[SergeantRock senior noncoms']] jobs is mentoring [[EnsignNewbie new officers]]. Starfleet formalized this relationship to where the above ensign is literally O'Brien's inferior (and ''only'' O'Brien's; he doesn't call any of [=DS=]9's other noncoms "sir").
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'''The JustifyingEdit:''' Administrivia/JustifyingEdit:''' In real militaries, an informal part of [[SergeantRock senior noncoms']] jobs is mentoring [[EnsignNewbie new officers]]. Starfleet formalized this relationship to where the above ensign is literally O'Brien's inferior (and ''only'' O'Brien's; he doesn't call any of [=DS=]9's other noncoms "sir").
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With the destruction of Deep Space 9 in this alternate universe, the Dominion War unfolded and finished very differently.
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** [[http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/425.htm In this episode]], both Sisko and Bashir call those aliens Cardassians.
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* Sisko fails at convincing the prophets to destroy the Dominion fleet and they win the war. ~20-30 years later, a ship resembling an Intrepid-class comes from the direction of the Delta quadrant full of powerful weapons, possibly intended against the Borg. It is able to destroy much of the Dominion fleet and get to Earth, where it beging an uprising against the Dominion and eventually restores the Federation.
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* Sisko fails at convincing the prophets to destroy the Dominion fleet and they win the war. ~20-30 years later, a ship resembling an Intrepid-class comes from the direction of the Delta quadrant full of powerful weapons, possibly intended against the Borg. It is able to destroy much of the Dominion fleet and get to Earth, where it beging begins an uprising against the Dominion and eventually restores the Federation.
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* Sisko fails at convincing the prophets to destroy the Dominion fleet and they win the war. ~20-30 years later, a ship resembling an Intrepid-class comes from the direction of the Delta quadrant full of powerful weapons, possibly intended against the Borg. It is able to destroy much of the Dominion fleet and get to Earth, where it beging an uprising against the Dominion and eventually restores the Federation.
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[[WMG: Jack is really TheCinemaSnob.]]
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[[WMG: Jack is really TheCinemaSnob.WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob.]]
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[[WMG: Sarina Douglass will eventually work with, and becomes friends with, [[StarTrekVoyager Seven of Nine]].]]
Really, they're so similar it's uncanny. Both had their lives royally screwed up by poor choices on their parents' parts, both were successfully re-socialized as adults, both women had the male doctors helping them fall in love with them when they weren't really interested, both are socially misfitted geniuses and both are beautiful singers. Sarina just has a softer and more feminine personality to Seven's sterner, blunter one. Both will end up Starfleet super-scientists working together, and they'll become best friends.
[[WMG: Jack is really TheCinemaSnob.]]
Not only is the physical resemblance uncanny (they even DRESS exactly the same), but the personalities as well. Jack didn't go insane and get institutionalized due to being an augment, he cracked after being subjected to one too many Estus Pirkle movies.
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* FridgeBrilliance: If you take this together with the WMG further above that SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas takes place on ancient Bajor instead of earth, you get... something extremely weird.
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* FridgeBrilliance: If you take this together with the WMG further above that SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas ''WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas'' takes place on ancient Bajor instead of earth, you get... something extremely weird.
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[[WMG: There is no Section 31.]]
Doctor Bashir likes playing super spy fantasies in the holo suites. Section 31 stories that do not involve him are due to him having shared his ideas with others, or more likely they are not original with him in the first place. Such a dark secret organization does not fit into Star Trek, but would be perfect for holo novels for certain tastes. He also may not be genetically engineered at all, as that also seems just the sort of thing to fit into a fantasy world. Ah! The hero is not just an ordinary doctor after all, but a genetic superman who is contacted by a super secret organization for a secret mission! Kind of juvenile, really, but who honestly doesn't have daydreams like that? This kind of fantasy may be more common among men than women from what I have read.
Doctor Bashir likes playing super spy fantasies in the holo suites. Section 31 stories that do not involve him are due to him having shared his ideas with others, or more likely they are not original with him in the first place. Such a dark secret organization does not fit into Star Trek, but would be perfect for holo novels for certain tastes. He also may not be genetically engineered at all, as that also seems just the sort of thing to fit into a fantasy world. Ah! The hero is not just an ordinary doctor after all, but a genetic superman who is contacted by a super secret organization for a secret mission! Kind of juvenile, really, but who honestly doesn't have daydreams like that? This kind of fantasy may be more common among men than women from what I have read.
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Compared to other Klingons, Worf is anal retentive. This was part of his own culture shock in early ''Next Generation'' episodes. He's often at odds with other Klingons. His quarters are always immaculate and he likes everything a certain way and becomes very irritable when he doesn't get what he wants. Then, there's his obsession with the details of his wedding, and just watch his interaction with General Martok (and other Klingons) in the later ''Deep Space 9'' seasons.
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Compared to other Klingons, Worf is anal retentive. This was part of his own culture shock in early ''Next Generation'' episodes. He's often at odds with other Klingons. His quarters are always immaculate and he likes everything a certain way and becomes very irritable when he doesn't get what he wants. Then, there's his obsession with the details of his wedding, and just watch his interaction with General Martok (and other Klingons) in the later ''Deep Space 9'' seasons.
seasons. ''(Actually this is not what OCD is at all, more likely to be compulsive repetitive behaviors, but not always. It's worth reading about to educate yourself about this crippling disease)''
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It's possible that Alt. O'Brien is experiencing the same events of this episode in [[ParallelUniverse own universe]], but with some different choices made. Alt. O'Brien is somehow returned to the prime universe and is able to stay because an object of equal mass has replaced the missing O'Brien Prime. Deep Space 9 is destroyed in this alternate universe, & Alt. O'Brien replaces the deceased O'Brien Prime.
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It's possible that Alt. O'Brien is experiencing the same events of this episode in [[ParallelUniverse own universe]], but with some different choices made. Alt. O'Brien is somehow returned to the prime universe and is able to stay because an object of equal mass has replaced the missing O'Brien Prime. Deep Space 9 is destroyed in this the alternate universe, & Alt. O'Brien replaces the deceased O'Brien Prime.
Prime in the prime universe.
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When O'Brien uses delta radiation to travel into the future, he encounters his alternate who is unaffected by radiation. They both mention this inconsistency, but if they both are the same, then O'Brien prime dying of radiation should prevent the other O'Brien from living. It's likely that alt. O'Brien is experiencing the same events of this episode in his own universe, but with some different choices made. Alt. O'Brien is somehow returned to the prime universe and is able to stay because an object of equal mass has replaced the missing O'Brien prime.
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When O'Brien uses delta radiation to travel into the future, he encounters his alternate who is unaffected by radiation. They both mention this inconsistency, but if they both are the same, then O'Brien prime Prime dying of radiation should prevent the other O'Brien from living. living.
It'slikely possible that alt. Alt. O'Brien is experiencing the same events of this episode in his [[ParallelUniverse own universe, universe]], but with some different choices made. Alt. O'Brien is somehow returned to the prime universe and is able to stay because an object of equal mass has replaced the missing O'Brien prime.
Prime. Deep Space 9 is destroyed in this alternate universe, & Alt. O'Brien replaces the deceased O'Brien Prime.
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[[WMG: Sisko grew up on a capitalist commune]]
Tying into the above: just how can Sisko's family have owned a restaurant in a cashless society? Well, just as today we have small communities that practice social ownership, it seems reasonable to conclude that in a future cashless society, small communities will open up that are run along capitalist lines. Clearly the Sisko family grew up in one of these.
Tying into the above: just how can Sisko's family have owned a restaurant in a cashless society? Well, just as today we have small communities that practice social ownership, it seems reasonable to conclude that in a future cashless society, small communities will open up that are run along capitalist lines. Clearly the Sisko family grew up in one of these.
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[[WMG: The Breen Homeworld has recently undergone some serious global warming.]]
Okay, so basically my theory comes from combining together a few different points mentioned in the show...
# In "Return to Grace" Dukat mentioned a Cardassian Embassy on Breen.
# No outsider had seen what a Breen looked like under their suit and lived.
# In "The Changing Face of Evil" Weyoun said intelligence reports that Breen was a frozen wasteland were wrong and it was actually quite comfortable (implying he may have been there).
Taking point 2 with either of point 1 and 3 implies that the Breen must wear their suits at all times, including on their homeworld. If we assume that their homeworld has undergone global warming and that the suits are refrigeration suits, this would explain them doing so. In addition, if we're going to reconcile point 1 and 3 (that the Breen's homeworld was believed to be a frozen wasteland and yet the Cardassians had an embassy there and didn't bother to look at the weather) this would make more sense if we consider the possibility that the place may have been much colder several years earlier when the Cardassian embassy was there (during Return to Grace). By this time, it was already in the middle of global warming (hence why the Breen needed to wear the suits) and seemed warm to them, but was still a frozen wasteland by our standards. Now, it's gotten so much worse that it seems quite comfortable to the rest of the universe and hence the Breen need to wear refrigeration suits to survive.
Okay, so basically my theory comes from combining together a few different points mentioned in the show...
# In "Return to Grace" Dukat mentioned a Cardassian Embassy on Breen.
# No outsider had seen what a Breen looked like under their suit and lived.
# In "The Changing Face of Evil" Weyoun said intelligence reports that Breen was a frozen wasteland were wrong and it was actually quite comfortable (implying he may have been there).
Taking point 2 with either of point 1 and 3 implies that the Breen must wear their suits at all times, including on their homeworld. If we assume that their homeworld has undergone global warming and that the suits are refrigeration suits, this would explain them doing so. In addition, if we're going to reconcile point 1 and 3 (that the Breen's homeworld was believed to be a frozen wasteland and yet the Cardassians had an embassy there and didn't bother to look at the weather) this would make more sense if we consider the possibility that the place may have been much colder several years earlier when the Cardassian embassy was there (during Return to Grace). By this time, it was already in the middle of global warming (hence why the Breen needed to wear the suits) and seemed warm to them, but was still a frozen wasteland by our standards. Now, it's gotten so much worse that it seems quite comfortable to the rest of the universe and hence the Breen need to wear refrigeration suits to survive.
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[[WMG: Joseph Sisko is bisexual.]]
The dead father Captain Sisko mentions is actually his ''step''father, whom Joseph married sometime after Sarah died.
The dead father Captain Sisko mentions is actually his ''step''father, whom Joseph married sometime after Sarah died.
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[[WMG: Benjamin Sisko and Keiko are the only ones AboveTheInfluence (or not influenced) in "Fascination"]]
We see a lot of characters (trying) to act upon their latent attractions towards other characters, the cause being Lwaxana's Zanthi fever and attraction to Odo. While a lot of characters are obvious, Miles is influenced by Lawxana's jealousy of Odo's attraction to Kira (and latent jealousy about Keiko's coworker) rather than attraction. Odo may be above the influence, or maybe he's just better at keeping his emotions (attraction to Kira) in check than anyone else. My belief is the latter. As for Ben Sisko and Keiko, there's neither latent attraction nor jealously to prey on, so they are unaffected.
We see a lot of characters (trying) to act upon their latent attractions towards other characters, the cause being Lwaxana's Zanthi fever and attraction to Odo. While a lot of characters are obvious, Miles is influenced by Lawxana's jealousy of Odo's attraction to Kira (and latent jealousy about Keiko's coworker) rather than attraction. Odo may be above the influence, or maybe he's just better at keeping his emotions (attraction to Kira) in check than anyone else. My belief is the latter. As for Ben Sisko and Keiko, there's neither latent attraction nor jealously to prey on, so they are unaffected.
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* Alternately, the reason Mirror!Bashir was augmented was because he was a useless slave made useful by being augmented to fight in gladiator like entertainment.
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[[WMG: Alternately, the whole StarTrek franchise is created by Benny Russell, who becomes the fictional equivalent to GeneRoddenberry.]]
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[[WMG: Everyone is dead and Terok-Nor is Purgatory.]]
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[[WMG: Why the Dominion War isn't mentioned in the Visitor.]]
Because the war never turned hot. They're still in a very long, uncomfortable cold war with them - without Sisko's input events happened differently. The Dominion is building up forces, possibly already aligned with Cardassia (all though without his rivalry with Sisko Dukat's motivations might have been changed slightly) and the Federation appeases them over and over again ... by the time they stand up to them it might be too late.
Because the war never turned hot. They're still in a very long, uncomfortable cold war with them - without Sisko's input events happened differently. The Dominion is building up forces, possibly already aligned with Cardassia (all though without his rivalry with Sisko Dukat's motivations might have been changed slightly) and the Federation appeases them over and over again ... by the time they stand up to them it might be too late.
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** I think it's actually much more likely that Sisko and the events of "In the Pale Moonlight" specifically are what threw off their war projections. The Jack Pack predicted that the Romulans would join the war against the Dominion, yes, but only after close to a year had passed (Season seven timeframe) and the Federation and the Klingons were that much weaker, and thus the alliance as a whole would have been in a weaker position. Their predictions were based on statistical analysis of the powers themselves, which would have included the Dominion '''not''' planning to invade Romulus yet specifically because they didn't want to scare the Romulans into the war, and thus the Romulans would have had no reason to join the war early (Presumably, the Jack Pack saw them joining the war in a year when the Dominion began gaining the definitive upper hand and the Romulans realized that the Klingons and Federation were really going down and they would soon find themselves facing the Dominion alone). They could have never foreseen Sisko manufacturing evidence or taking part in a deceptive plot to trick the Romulans into the war, both because their statistics don't deal with minute individual factors, and because even if it did they had no data to say that Sisko would have been willing to do such a thing (It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you don't have the right data you can't have the right conclusions). This is one of the few points in the entire series where one person really changed everything, where '''Sisko''' changed everything, and it's a point that they couldn't have predicted.
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[[WMG: An alternate way the Dominion War could have ended.]]
p.s. not complaining about how it did, just having fun with some ideas
*The Borg attack the Dominion, they assimilate the clone breeding centers and begin chugging out drones. The Borg determine they cannot assimilate Changelings and therefore declare an open hail that they will exterminate them. The Borg smash through the Jemhdar Wolf 359 style. To save the Founders Sisko must first pick up Captain Picard who will function as an ambassador to the Borg, if that fails Sisko is to use the Defiant to destroy the Borg cube. Sisko and his crew do everything they can to fight the borg. It ends up with just Sisko and Picard on the bridge of the Defiant throwing everything they have at the Borg...to no avail. The Borg over power the Defiant. Sisko programs in ramming speed, Picard tells him to stop and open a hail. Sisko wants to fire, Picard pulls rank and Sisko reigns himself in. Picard gives a Picard speech admitting that resistance is futile, they will win, but if there is any of me, and of the hundreds of federation citizens you've assimilated within you then you must see that there is another way, a better way. Yadda yadda he lays on the Picard speech. The Borg cube responds that it must go ponder what has been said and the Cube flies away. The crew of the Defiant beam down, and Odo rejoins his people. The Female Changeling comes up and agrees to peace.
* Actually Odo could have ended the war easily. He just had to say to the Founders I'll come home IF you remove all forces from the Alpha Quadrant and agree to a galactic peace treaty with the Federation. He puts on his tuxedo and Boom, war over.
* Admiral Ross successfully takes over the Federation in his coup. Sisko is locked away. Major Kira leads a covert commando force right into Starfleet HQ and rescues him. They go back to Bajor. The Federation now falls to infighting. The Dominion begins to pounce. Sisko activates his Emmisary card and the Bajoran government enlists the remaining Masquis to form a renegade army that goes after the Dominion themselves.
**Along the way Worf decides to get the sword of Kales and unite the Klingons behind Sisko.
*** In the end the Defiant is piloted by the now renegade Sisko and his crew who are now more anti-hero types. The Defiant smashes through the Dominion lines and orbits the homeworld of the Founders. As the Founder gloat at him, what will one little ship be able to do against a whole planet. BOOM the Defiant fires a Genesis Torpedo! Nuff said.
p.s. not complaining about how it did, just having fun with some ideas
*The Borg attack the Dominion, they assimilate the clone breeding centers and begin chugging out drones. The Borg determine they cannot assimilate Changelings and therefore declare an open hail that they will exterminate them. The Borg smash through the Jemhdar Wolf 359 style. To save the Founders Sisko must first pick up Captain Picard who will function as an ambassador to the Borg, if that fails Sisko is to use the Defiant to destroy the Borg cube. Sisko and his crew do everything they can to fight the borg. It ends up with just Sisko and Picard on the bridge of the Defiant throwing everything they have at the Borg...to no avail. The Borg over power the Defiant. Sisko programs in ramming speed, Picard tells him to stop and open a hail. Sisko wants to fire, Picard pulls rank and Sisko reigns himself in. Picard gives a Picard speech admitting that resistance is futile, they will win, but if there is any of me, and of the hundreds of federation citizens you've assimilated within you then you must see that there is another way, a better way. Yadda yadda he lays on the Picard speech. The Borg cube responds that it must go ponder what has been said and the Cube flies away. The crew of the Defiant beam down, and Odo rejoins his people. The Female Changeling comes up and agrees to peace.
* Actually Odo could have ended the war easily. He just had to say to the Founders I'll come home IF you remove all forces from the Alpha Quadrant and agree to a galactic peace treaty with the Federation. He puts on his tuxedo and Boom, war over.
* Admiral Ross successfully takes over the Federation in his coup. Sisko is locked away. Major Kira leads a covert commando force right into Starfleet HQ and rescues him. They go back to Bajor. The Federation now falls to infighting. The Dominion begins to pounce. Sisko activates his Emmisary card and the Bajoran government enlists the remaining Masquis to form a renegade army that goes after the Dominion themselves.
**Along the way Worf decides to get the sword of Kales and unite the Klingons behind Sisko.
*** In the end the Defiant is piloted by the now renegade Sisko and his crew who are now more anti-hero types. The Defiant smashes through the Dominion lines and orbits the homeworld of the Founders. As the Founder gloat at him, what will one little ship be able to do against a whole planet. BOOM the Defiant fires a Genesis Torpedo! Nuff said.
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* He may have realizied the bomb might kill or injure him if he was close enough when it went off, or that since he's a [[{{ProudWarriorRaceGuy}} Klingon]] killing Kirk in a sneak attack would be very dishonorable.
[[WMG: O'Brien gets replaced by a replicate sometime during "Armageddon Game".]]
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[[WMG: O'Brien gets replaced by areplicate replicant sometime during "Armageddon Game".]]
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