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*Remember how Kamaji uses sootballs to help him stoke the boilers? Once the burned coal becomes ash, Kamaji uses his spell and creates new sootballs out of the ashes and they continue working for the bathhouse. So in a sense, Yubaba is indirectly creating new employees
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[[WMG: The movie is an allegory for prostitution.]]
This is a theory that I've seen tossed around, but it makes sense in a strange way.
* Chihiro's parents eat the food of the spirit, similar to how many prostitutes are forced into it by trying to pay off debts or to support family due to some thoughtless actions.
* Chihiro's name is taken from her, showing both how prostitution takes away your identity and self-worth and how many prostitutes go under a pseudonym. What's more, her new name is a number, another show of loss of identity and a possible reference to how much she costs.
* In the past, bath houses were known to double as brothels. In the Japanese version of the movie, Chihiro is refered to as a Yuna, which were girl who specifically serviced men both in washing and sexually.
* Almost every patron that we see is male/ambiguous, while most of the workers are female, and the few male workers are more administrative than anything. Reference to pimps?
* Yubaba herself looks a good deal like a Victorian brothel Madame.
* Haku is either a fellow prostitute under debt for Yubaba, or he's also a pimp but draws the line at child prostitution. It's especially personal since he and Chihiro have a history.
* No-Face is another patron, a poor one known for his violent tendancies. But once he has money, the greedy brothel welcomes him. But no matter what they try to do to please him, all he wants is to pay the little girl who's caught his eye.
* Chihiro eventually runs away with the promise that she'll find a way to save both her old friend Haku and her parents. Yubaba reacts very angrily to this, like a real pimp/madame might react to one of their merchandise escaping, particularly after the No-Face fiasco.
* The fact that the creators said themselves that they were inspired by the underground sex work business. Quote from Miyazaki: "I think the most appropriate way to symbolize the modern world is the sex industry. Hasn't Japanese society become like the sex industry?"
This is a theory that I've seen tossed around, but it makes sense in a strange way.
* Chihiro's parents eat the food of the spirit, similar to how many prostitutes are forced into it by trying to pay off debts or to support family due to some thoughtless actions.
* Chihiro's name is taken from her, showing both how prostitution takes away your identity and self-worth and how many prostitutes go under a pseudonym. What's more, her new name is a number, another show of loss of identity and a possible reference to how much she costs.
* In the past, bath houses were known to double as brothels. In the Japanese version of the movie, Chihiro is refered to as a Yuna, which were girl who specifically serviced men both in washing and sexually.
* Almost every patron that we see is male/ambiguous, while most of the workers are female, and the few male workers are more administrative than anything. Reference to pimps?
* Yubaba herself looks a good deal like a Victorian brothel Madame.
* Haku is either a fellow prostitute under debt for Yubaba, or he's also a pimp but draws the line at child prostitution. It's especially personal since he and Chihiro have a history.
* No-Face is another patron, a poor one known for his violent tendancies. But once he has money, the greedy brothel welcomes him. But no matter what they try to do to please him, all he wants is to pay the little girl who's caught his eye.
* Chihiro eventually runs away with the promise that she'll find a way to save both her old friend Haku and her parents. Yubaba reacts very angrily to this, like a real pimp/madame might react to one of their merchandise escaping, particularly after the No-Face fiasco.
* The fact that the creators said themselves that they were inspired by the underground sex work business. Quote from Miyazaki: "I think the most appropriate way to symbolize the modern world is the sex industry. Hasn't Japanese society become like the sex industry?"
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** WordOfGod says that No-Face was actually more or less the God of Consumerism. He is lonely, has no home or identity of his own, and seeks solace in empty food and wealth.
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my theory that no face is a hungry ghost
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[[WMG: No-Face is a hungry ghost]]
A monster from Asian Mythology, a hungry ghost is an entity that is excessively hungry-although mythology differs on whether or not it actually can eat.
A monster from Asian Mythology, a hungry ghost is an entity that is excessively hungry-although mythology differs on whether or not it actually can eat.
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[[WMG: Yubaba's son grows up to be [[Film/HowlsMovingCastle a very spoiled wizard]].]]
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[[WMG: Chihiro will retrun to the Spirit World.]]
It's only natural since Haku promised to see her again and that many of the inhabitants when they cheered her on during her farewell said something along the lines of "Come back and visit us soon."
It's only natural since Haku promised to see her again and that many of the inhabitants when they cheered her on during her farewell said something along the lines of "Come back and visit us soon."
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** Book!Howl is Welsh; he also has a sister, a niece and a nephew. However, since the movie doesn't follow the book that much, this could still be true for Film!Howl
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** Book!Howl is Welsh; he also has a sister, a niece and a nephew. However, since the movie film doesn't follow the book that much, this could still be true for Film!Howl
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** book-Howl is Welsh; he also has a sister, a niece and a nephew. However, since the movie doesn't follow the book that much, this could still be true for movie-Howl
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** book-Howl Book!Howl is Welsh; he also has a sister, a niece and a nephew. However, since the movie doesn't follow the book that much, this could still be true for movie-Howl
Film!Howl
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** book-Howl is Welsh; he also has a sister, a niece and a nephew. However, since the movie doesn't follow the book that much, this could still be true for movie-Howl
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** I took the opposite approach here: Yubaba knew that Chihiro's initial answer was the right one, and asked "Are you sure?" in order to get Chihiro to second-guess herself into changing her answer.
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This means that the food being eaten, the architecture, the tiny bits of coal being burnt up...was all either a human, an animal, or a supernatural spirit. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel Pleasant dreams!]]
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This means that the food being eaten, the architecture, the tiny bits of coal being burnt up...was all either a human, an animal, or a supernatural spirit. [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel Pleasant dreams!]]
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* I thought the movie clearly states that they're twins..?
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[[WMG: Spirited Away and My Neighbor Totoro take place in the same universe. Chihiro is the mother in My Neighbor Totoro]]
Totoro and Spirited Away clearly take place in the same world: there is a tree shown in the first scene of Spirited Away that is eerily similar to the one under which Totoro resides (perhaps from a more developed angle--this side of the mountain has been built up more). Furthermore, both movies feature the soot ball spirits, and Totoro could easily be a creature found within the bath house in spirited away. Furthermore, if the two indeed take place in the same universe and better yet, in a similar area, Chihiro could easily be a character in My Neighbor Totoro: for instance, the mother.
Totoro and Spirited Away clearly take place in the same world: there is a tree shown in the first scene of Spirited Away that is eerily similar to the one under which Totoro resides (perhaps from a more developed angle--this side of the mountain has been built up more). Furthermore, both movies feature the soot ball spirits, and Totoro could easily be a creature found within the bath house in spirited away. Furthermore, if the two indeed take place in the same universe and better yet, in a similar area, Chihiro could easily be a character in My Neighbor Totoro: for instance, the mother.
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**Howl!
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[[WMG: When Chihiro was a kid, her sandals drifted into [[TotoroMyNeighbor [[MyNeighborTotoro a small pond where they were mistaken for Mei's]] sandals.]]
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[[WMG: When Chihiro was a kid, her sandals drifted into [[TotoroMyNeighbor a small pond where they were mistaken for Mei's]] sandals.]]
It's never specified but the pond could have been connected to the Kohaku River back when it existed.
It's never specified but the pond could have been connected to the Kohaku River back when it existed.
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* Maybe if humans work at the bathhouse enough they become frogs, slugs, or weasels. I just thought of this cause of what Haku said.
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[[WMG: The River Spirit that Chihiro helped clean was Haku's grandfather.]]
Pretty self-explanatory... They look like they could be related.
[[WMG: Yubaba never really hated Chihiro.]]
There seems to be quite a bit of evidence that while she may not LIKE her, she doesn't outright despise her. It's not like she is purposefully malicious to her all the time. Also, at the end when Chihiro says none of the pigs are her parents, she says, "Are you sure that's your answer?" Chihiro never said that was going to be her answer, she thought it was a mistake. When Yubaba said that maybe she was giving her a hint that it was an option.
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[[WMG: Yubaba's son grows up to be [[{{HowlsMovingCastle}} A very spoiled wizard]].]]
Because face it, even with Chihiro's help that boy will still be spoiled beyond all belief by the time he grows up.
Because face it, even with Chihiro's help that boy will still be spoiled beyond all belief by the time he grows up.
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[[WMG: No-Face is [[Pokemon [[{{Pokemon}} Missingno.]]]]
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[[WMG: No-Face is [[Pokemon Missingno.]]]]
Both duplicate items, corrupt whatever they touch and are found alongside an ocean.
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* I wrote a short fanfiction around this idea [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1256016/1/Yubabas_Night (Yubaba's Night)]], with the explanation that she has a magically split personality.
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[[WMG: Yubaba and Zeniba are the same person.]]
Am I the first one to mention this? They sound the same, they look the same, and CHIHIRO even calls "Yubaba" Granny.
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Am I the first one to mention this? They sound the same, they look the same, and CHIHIRO even calls "Yubaba" Granny.
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[[WMG: Yubaba and Zeniba are the same person.]]
Am I the first one to mention this? They sound the same, they look the same, and CHIHIRO even calls "Yubaba" Granny.
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First one here? Anyways, in the Japanese + English subtitles, it is said by a character somewhere along the lines of "The monster has already eaten two frogs and a slug!" My guess is that the employees where once in Chihiro's case, and had forgotten their names, so they are stuck there. Then eventually turn into a slug if female, or a frog if male. I suck at WMG ....SoYeah, I'm done. If it's obvious or stupid, go ahead and remove it.
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First one here? Anyways, in the Japanese + English subtitles, it is said by a character somewhere along the lines of "The monster has already eaten two frogs and a slug!" My guess is that the employees where once in Chihiro's case, and had forgotten their names, so they are stuck there. Then eventually turn into a slug if female, or a frog if male. I suck at WMG ....SoYeah, WMG ... I'm done. If it's obvious or stupid, go ahead and remove it.
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** Well, Miyazaki did say that as fantastical as it all seemed, it did have some basis in reality. For example, the "stink spirit" that turned out to be a river spirit or something? Based on his personal experience with cleaning up a river; there actually was a bicycle in it!
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* The coal is almost definite, if Yubaba's threat was not simply hollow. But assuming it's not, I have to wonder: does burning the coal kill the one so turned, or change him/her/it back to the previous form? Yubaba obviously can't afford to essentially kill off every worker who makes a minor error, so...
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[[WMG: Chihiro will grow up to be a Shinto priestess]]
She still has her magic hairband to connect her to the Spirit World. Also, Haku promised her that they would meet again, and spirits can't break their promises.
She still has her magic hairband to connect her to the Spirit World. Also, Haku promised her that they would meet again, and spirits can't break their promises.
