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Before the Watcher's death in ''ComicBook/OriginalSin'', the Watcher visited MJ Watson, much the same way he visited Hank [=McCoy=] in a recent issue of ''All-New X-Men'', and informed her that, in his opinion, she is a terrible person for encouraging Peter to go through with [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay the deal with Mephisto]]. He revealed to MJ that once she and Peter were HappilyMarried, until she buckled under the stress of being married to a superhero during ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', and took Mephisto's deal. MJ is now wracked with guilt over what she has done, and believes her soul to be damned because of their literal DealWithTheDevil. This is why she has distanced herself from Peter post-''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': not because she doesn't want him in her life, but because she doesn't want him to share her damnation.
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Before the Watcher's death in ''ComicBook/OriginalSin'', the Watcher visited MJ Watson, much the same way he visited Hank [=McCoy=] in a recent issue of ''All-New X-Men'', and informed her that, in his opinion, she is a terrible person for encouraging Peter to go through with [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay the deal with Mephisto]]. He revealed to MJ that once she and Peter were HappilyMarried, until she buckled under the stress of being married to a superhero during ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'', and took Mephisto's deal. MJ is now wracked with guilt over what she has done, and believes her soul to be damned because of their literal DealWithTheDevil. This is why she has distanced herself from Peter post-''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': not because she doesn't want him in her life, but because she doesn't want him to share her damnation.
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** Unconfirmed. Sales are dropping and many, many fans still consider BND to be the DorkAge to end all Spider-Man [[DorkAge Dork Ages]].
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** Unconfirmed. Sales are dropping and many, many fans still consider BND to be the DorkAge AudienceAlienatingEra to end all Spider-Man [[DorkAge Dork Ages]].[[AudienceAlienatingEra Audience-Alienating Eras]].
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Either by the or editors over ruling the original editorial order, but it is planned. The similarities to the Clone Saga. The name itself "ONE more day". If the status quo was going to be kept then why make a deal with a demon that is likely going to mess everything up? OMD won't last. It is meant to be a DorkAge and it's end will be an epic TakeThat to this type of story arc.
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Either by the or editors over ruling the original editorial order, but it is planned. The similarities to the Clone Saga. The name itself "ONE more day". If the status quo was going to be kept then why make a deal with a demon that is likely going to mess everything up? OMD won't last. It is meant to be a DorkAge an AudienceAlienatingEra and it's end will be an epic TakeThat to this type of story arc.
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[[WMG: Once Quesada is gone, Carlie Cooper will be retconned as [[HornyDevils a succubus.]] ]]
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[[WMG: Once Quesada is gone, Carlie Cooper will be retconned as [[HornyDevils [[SuccubiAndIncubi a succubus.]] ]]
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Why do I think it's her? Because she was never named, outside of Peter and MJ. No one knew what she was called. Norman, or whoever's tormenting him (I'm guessing Red Goblin or just his Goblin personality) wouldn't know what her name was.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts at redemption.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts at redemption.
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Why do I think it's her? Because she was never named, outside of Peter and MJ. No one knew what she was called. Norman, or whoever's tormenting him (I'm guessing Red Goblin or just his Goblin personality) wouldn't know what her name was.
was. Hence why he calls her 'the Baby'. Why the guilt if she's still alive? He ordered Mongrain to dispose of her, odds are good he believes she's dead.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts atredemption.
redemption.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts at
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[[WMG: May Parker's Fate]]
Related to the above, May Parker may still be alive. In fact, it's implied that she hasn't entirely been forgotten, in the ''Gold Goblin'' series. It's a little bit of a stretch, but bear with me.
especially since he's got Red Goblin formerly psychologist Ashley Kafka (who may have got all his sins) tormenting him to break him, and the old Green Goblin persona in his head.
One of those torments? In his metaphorical bat-cave, someone scrawled a whole list of his victims - including the name 'Peter Parker' over and over again.
So far, so moderately interesting. However, what really, REALLY interests is me is one name on the list of sins.
'The Baby'.
Now, we've got a couple of candidates for who this could be.
One is Stanley Osborn, who was assumed for a period to be Norman's son by his son's girlfriend, Lily Hollister. Turns out, nope, he's the son of the Harry clone. It's unlikely to be him, as he's been featured a few times, he's named. He'd be named on the list. Also, he's not a baby any more. Unlikely.
The second? That's much, MUCH juicier: Mayday Parker. While we only saw her grow to adulthood in the MC2 continuity, she WAS born in the 616 continuity. She was stolen, her death faked, shortly after birth and she was last seen with Norman, who handed her back off to Alison Mongrain and told her to dispose of the baby on the way to Europe. In MC2, she didn't, instead returning the baby. It's not inconceivable she was kept here.
Alternatively, a darker possibility is that he killed her, as the Scorpion implied back in the first Marvel Knights: Spider-Man series. While he said 'unborn child', implying he caused a stillbirth, and that comment was from a) someone not renowned for being all that bright, b) someone was Norman Osborn's latest puppet in his latest scheme to screw with Peter.
Why do I think it's her? Because she was never named, outside of Peter and MJ. No one knew what she was called. Norman, or whoever's tormenting him (I'm guessing Red Goblin or just his Goblin personality) wouldn't know what her name was.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts at redemption.
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Explained more in detail on the {{Superman}} WMG page: extra-universal omniscient beings vulnerable only to PlotImmunity are trying to suck all the life out of both 616 and the DC main universes. To fool them, someone with easy access to many alternate universes ([[ComicBook/FantasticFour Reed Richards]], most likely) has teamed up with Mephisto to warp reality in order to store the souls of all superhero couples in the bodies of the only comic book couple with absolute PlotImmunity — Clark Kent and Lois Lane — until the threat from those omniscient beings has passed. This ''apparently'', but not really, breaks up a whole lot of both DC and Marvel couples through numerous contrived coincidences involving random death, illogical plot twists, and CharacterDerailment. The ''real'' story behind ComicBook/OneMoreDay (which will lead to Pete and MJ getting returned to their bodies and reunited) is the mystery of why Mephisto agreed to do this. Perhaps Reed (or whoever) challenged him to a fiddle contest?
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Explained more in detail on the {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} WMG page: extra-universal omniscient beings vulnerable only to PlotImmunity are trying to suck all the life out of both 616 and the DC main universes. To fool them, someone with easy access to many alternate universes ([[ComicBook/FantasticFour Reed Richards]], most likely) has teamed up with Mephisto to warp reality in order to store the souls of all superhero couples in the bodies of the only comic book couple with absolute PlotImmunity — Clark Kent and Lois Lane — until the threat from those omniscient beings has passed. This ''apparently'', but not really, breaks up a whole lot of both DC and Marvel couples through numerous contrived coincidences involving random death, illogical plot twists, and CharacterDerailment. The ''real'' story behind ComicBook/OneMoreDay (which will lead to Pete and MJ getting returned to their bodies and reunited) is the mystery of why Mephisto agreed to do this. Perhaps Reed (or whoever) challenged him to a fiddle contest?
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The name of the fan? [[{{Superman}} Superboy Prime]] with his Reality Punch.
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The name of the fan? [[{{Superman}} [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Superboy Prime]] with his Reality Punch.
