History WMG / SonicTheHedgehog

Asides from the EvilIsSexy trope, Eggman fits a number of qualifications for [[DracoInLeatherPants giant leather pants]]: [[LaughablyEvil he's hilarious]], [[AffablyEvil rather nice for a world conqueror]], surprisingly Badass with moments of [[MagnificentBastard magnificence]], and an implied FreudianExcuse. That's pretty much a recipe for fans treating him a bit too sympathetically. Considering that SEGA themselves have been trying to downplay his evil nature, I'm surprised he ''isn't'' an example anyway. If [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark a sociopathic big-boned kid]] and [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic a chimera-esque Spirit of Disharmony]] can be treated much more sympathetically than they should, then Eggman getting this treatment should be a no-brainer.

* VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4: Modified VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}} engine, Post-SA Sonic model.

** Aha! But it's been confirmed for the 3DS, which... wait, does that count as HD or not? But still, Nintendo! [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle Although,]] the 3DS version is different from the 360 and [=PS3=] versions, with the main difference being that it's all 2D and Modern Sonic is based on VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}...which a lot of [[FanDumb "fans"]] are complaining about... okay, you're right. Oh well.

[[WMG: A character based on [[ComicBoom/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics Hope Kintobor]] will be added to the Robotnik family.]]

*** Actually, still Jossed. As ''Lost World'' came out before ''Frontiers'' broke the trend of Eggman being the final boss.

* If so, what does this mean as of ''VideoGame/Sonic Frontiers''? Has he broken the curse, or is it gonna continue?

** They're all {{Jossed}}, except Ray. However, the very last one ([=NiGHTS=]) appears as a costume for the [[CharacterCustomization Avatar]]. Ray is present in [[UpdatedRerelease Sonic Mania Plus]].

** They're all {{Jossed}}. However, the very last one ([=NiGHTS=]) appears as a costume for the [[CharacterCustomization Avatar]].

* Somewhat Confirmed. The upcoming ''VideoGame/SonicMania'' features [[{{Retraux}} remastered versions of the zones]] from ''Sonic 1'', ''Sonic 2'', ''Sonic CD'' and ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles''. The manual even stated that it takes place ''directly'' after ''S3&K''. But we don't know the full plot as of now, maybe when the game releases this August we'll find out.

[[WMG: All the lead characters are long dead, replaced by clones.]]
Simply put, if all the teleporters in the games use DestructiveTeleportation, the original heroes have been destroyed and cloned many times through their adventures. On top of this, all the leads have been shown using a teleporter in their first or second appearance:
* Sonic: Sonic the Hedgehog (8-Bit) - Scrap Brain Zone
* Tails: Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (8-Bit) - Crystal Egg Zone
* Robotnik: Sonic the Hedgehog (8-Bit) - Sky Base Zone
* Knuckles: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles - Carnival Night Zone / Sky Sanctuary Zone

Sonic Chronicles did bring an idea of adjusting Sonic's mannerisms with different speech choices and Shadow the Hedgehog brought the idea of multiple endings and choices throughout the game. Sonic will not be outright evil, he has 4 different choices in alignment with partners to help him out; [[LawfulGood Tails]], [[ChaoticGood Knuckles]], [[ChaoticNeutral Shadow]] and [[TrueNeutral himself]]. Characters may call Sonic out depending on who he chose and if they are both in the same area (Shadow will call Sonic weak and pitiful for carrying out Tails' choices, Amy will question Sonic if he keeps doing things on his own). The outright storyline will be the same but the outcomes of the mission will vary depending on the choices made. Even the last story will be affected and Sonic's [[SuperMode Super Mode]] and partners for the final fight are dependant on the choices.

This may make more sense if the goal is to push Sonic into using his super form repeatedly by presenting a stream of ever more deadly and dangerous challenges (It would make sense to seek out temporary allies as build up fodder once his machines can no longer challenge Sonic enough to enter his super form). While this could be intended as a long game Overclocking Attack, instigating a Superpower Meltdown or Heroic RRoD, it seems to be taking long enough that Sonic is just getting stronger and may even be building a tolerance to more chaos energy rather than being harmed by it (He needed his super form against Chaos in Adventure, but not in Generations). Continuing this practice regardless of the evidence that it is making Sonic stronger would make sense if this is in line with Eggman’s goal. If Eggman has a theory that making Sonic surpass some level of chaos energy will turn him into a chaos entity on par with or more powerful than Chaos or Dark Gaia, it would make sense to want to keep him alive and intact to test that theory. Add to that, Eggman has had multiple inventions revolving around mind controlling others. Sonic is very set in his identity, and that seems to extend to resistance to mind control (if keeping his personality under Dark Gaia’s influence counts), but Eggman may be banking on the change having a rebirth type phase where Sonic is more susceptible to mind control. If he can force Sonic into whatever peak chaos state and take control of it, he would have a weapon more capable than anything he’s used before. It has the added bonus in Eggman’s book of giving Sonic an ironic end. What could please Eggman better than enslaving the freedom loving thorn in his side and turning him against everything he loves and wants to protect? For plot reasons, the mind control or transformation won’t be as effective as he wants, and Sonic’s friends will get an “I Know You’re in There!” break the mind control device boss fight for the ages (for angst purposes, indications that Sonic is fighting from the inside should be blatant for the player/audience). Also, to appease the company, the transformation can’t be permanent (although it might be an opener if the team wants to update Sonic’s design again)

It does lend itself quite well to that, as Sonic is known for its LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and Dr. Eggman's M.O. is to throw large amounts of robots in the way of his adversaries. The one problem is that there isn't an easy way to integrate the fast running Sonic games are known for into it. On the other hand, this may be the next big chance for [[VideoGame/SonicTheFighters Honey the Cat]] to be playable...

* Team Future or Team Silver: Silver, Marine, Blaze
* Team Classic: Classic Sonic, Mighty, Ray