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5th Dec '16 6:34:18 AM MaxBaik
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* Tails seems was adopted as well. His biological parents were freaked out due his mutation and abandoned him. Then he was found by human family Prower, adopted and named Miles.
3rd Dec '16 10:46:04 PM Dere
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* Sonic Blast: First, going by its story, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of Angel Island or the Master Emerald. This is consistent with Sonic & Tails 2, which makes no mention of that backstory. Second, the game takes place in South Island, which seems to be a much more recurrent location in the 8bit tetralogy than in the main series. And third, the story has a Chaos Emerald getting split into 5 separate emeralds of different colors. This event feels too out there for the main canon.
* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. By this point, there are 10 emeralds in this timeline, but since Tails' rocket requires only 8, that's the number of emeralds the player collects. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.

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* Sonic Blast: First, going by its story, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of Angel Island or the Master Emerald. This is consistent with Sonic & Tails 2, which makes no mention of that backstory. Second, the game takes place in South Island, which seems to be a much more recurrent location in the 8bit tetralogy this timeline than in the main series. And third, the story has a Chaos Emerald getting split into 5 separate emeralds of different colors. This event feels too out there for the main canon.
* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, this game has 8 Chaos Emeralds, which makes no sense going by the main canon. However, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. By this point, there are 10 emeralds in this timeline, but since Tails' rocket requires only 8, that's the number of emeralds the player collects. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that take into account the Death Egg you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.



* Sonic Pocket Adventure: It's hard to fit this game in the main timeline, since its levels and story are mashups of Sonic 2 16bit and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. However, it fits in this timeline, where these games aren't canon. Also, this game's Knuckles seems to be the guardian/owner of a regular Chaos Emerald, rather than the Master Emerald.

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* Sonic Pocket Adventure: It's hard to fit this game in the main timeline, since its levels and story are mashups of Sonic 2 16bit and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. However, it fits in this timeline, where these games aren't canon. Also, this game's Knuckles seems to be the guardian/owner of a regular Chaos Emerald, rather than the Master Emerald. Since he's one of the two main characters of Sonic Blast, which is where the emerald split happened, he may have decided to take the task of guarding one of the new emeralds right after that game's story ended. This would be the emerald he has in Sonic the Fighters, the one you must fight him to get.



* You could also easily fit Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Sky Patrol, Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R in this canon (as long as you put the latter two after Sonic Blast). However, I didn't bother including them because they're not that relevant to this timeline.

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* You could also easily fit Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Sky Patrol, Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R in this canon (as long as you put place the latter two after Sonic Blast). These four games certainly fit better here than in the main timeline, as the first two are 8bit, and the latter two seem to feature non-guardian Knuckles. However, I didn't bother including mentioning them because they're not that relevant to this timeline.timeline's continuity.
* Sonic CD may take place in both timelines, just like Sonic 1. It would be right after Sonic 1, introducing Amy (who is in Sonic the Fighters) and Metal Sonic (who is in Sonic & Tails 2 and Sonic the Fighters) to this continuity.
28th Nov '16 10:51:58 PM Dere
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** Iblis was sealed inside Elise, and it was her mental and emotional fortitude what kept him imprisoned. So of course her breaking down and crying would loose the seal and release him. Sonic 06's story had plenty of problems and weird or dumb moments, but this wasn't one of them.
28th Nov '16 10:35:14 PM Dere
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*** Does he ever remove them when fighting Sonic, though? No. Not even when he's fighting him seriously, such as at the end of the Hero and Dark stories in SA2. Presumably, the reason is that his "full power mode" wouldn't be very effective against Sonic, instead slowing Shadow down and making him lose. It's effective against slow foes like Mephiles, but Sonic is probably capable of outrunning "full power Shadow" and dodging each of his attacks, making the mode useless against him.

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*** Does he ever remove them when fighting Sonic, though? No.Nope. Not even when he's fighting him seriously, such as at the end of the Hero and Dark stories in SA2. Presumably, the reason The most likely explanation is that his "full power mode" wouldn't be very effective against Sonic, instead slowing Shadow down and making him lose. It's effective against slow foes like Mephiles, but Sonic is probably capable of outrunning "full power Shadow" and dodging each of his attacks, making the mode useless against him.
him. Think Sonic vs Perfect Chaos from Generations, or Sonic vs the Nega-Wisp Armor from Colors.
28th Nov '16 10:25:47 PM Dere
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*** Does he ever remove them when fighting Sonic, though? No. Not even when he's fighting him seriously, such as at the end of the Hero and Dark stories in SA2. Presumably, the reason is that his "full power mode" wouldn't be very effective against Sonic, instead slowing Shadow down and making him lose. It's effective against slow foes like Mephiles, but Sonic is probably capable of outrunning "full power Shadow" and dodging each of his attacks, making the mode useless against him.
28th Nov '16 12:33:50 AM Dere
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* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. By this point, there are 9 emeralds in this timeline. However, since Tails' rocket needs only 8 emeralds to reach the Death Egg II, that's the number of emeralds the player collects. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.

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* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. By this point, there are 9 10 emeralds in this timeline. However, timeline, but since Tails' rocket needs requires only 8 emeralds to reach the Death Egg II, 8, that's the number of emeralds the player collects. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.
28th Nov '16 12:27:05 AM Dere
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* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.

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* Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. By this point, there are 9 emeralds in this timeline. However, since Tails' rocket needs only 8 emeralds to reach the Death Egg II, that's the number of emeralds the player collects. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.
28th Nov '16 12:14:48 AM Dere
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28th Nov '16 12:12:32 AM Dere
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[[WMG: The Sonic games have a split timeline]]
One common fan belief is that the 8-bit Sonic tetralogy (Sonic 1 8bit, Sonic 2 8bit, Sonic & Tails/Chaos, Sonic & Tails 2/Triple Trouble) is a separate continuity from the main one. This have been implied by the stories in the game manuals, such as the story of Sonic 2 8bit seemingly being incompatible with the main timeline (Sonic and Tails already know each other so it can't take place before the 16bit game, but no Sonic game can come between Sonic 2 and Sonic 3, and there's also mention of Tails being in South Island), or the manual of Sonic & Tails 2 stating that Sonic and Knuckles had never met before, or the fact that there are only 6 Chaos Emeralds in each of the tetralogy's game. However, the 16-bit and 8-bit versions of Sonic 1 have the same story and are mostly the same game, so it's fair to call this a split timeline: Sonic 1 started it all, then it branched into the main timeline, and the 8bit timeline.
Still with me? Good. Now I'm going to go a step further and say that the alternate timeline actually covers most of the pre-Sonic Adventure 2 spin-off and handheld games, going something like this:
Sonic 1>Tails' Adventure>Sonic 2(8bit)>Sonic & Tails>Sonic & Tails 2>Sonic Blast>Sonic the Fighters>Sonic Pocket Adventure
Here's my reasoning:
*Sonic Blast: First, going by its story, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of Angel Island or the Master Emerald. This is consistent with Sonic & Tails 2, which makes no mention of that backstory. Second, the game takes place in South Island, which seems to be a much more recurrent location in the 8bit tetralogy than in the main series. And third, the story has a Chaos Emerald getting split into 5 separate emeralds of different colors. This event feels too out there for the main canon.
*Sonic the Fighters: First, if you subscribe to the belief that the 8bit tetralogy is a separate timeline, then that means that Fang/Nack is a character exclusive to this timeline. He's in Sonic the Fighters, so the game has be part of this timeline. Second, the split of one of the emeralds into 5 new ones in Sonic Blast may explain why this game has over 7 emeralds. Third, the Death Egg II doesn't seem to fit in the main canon when you take into account Sonic 4's Death Egg mk II. However, it still fits in the side timeline, if you consider that you can see a Death Egg sinking into the sea in the ending of Sonic Blast. That would be the Death Egg I of this timeline. And fourth, once again, this Knuckles doesn't seem to be the guardian of the Master Emerald.
*Tails' Adventure: Going by the game's manual, it takes place before Tails met Sonic. However, this seems to contradict the Sonic 2 manual's prologue, which states that Tails lived in Westside Island (rather than Cocoa Island) before meeting Sonic, and seems to imply that he never had any adventures of his own prior to said meeting. However, that prologue isn't mentioned anywhere in the manual of the 8-bit version of Sonic 2, which has a different story from the 16-bit version, so this game fits much better in this timeline.
*Sonic Pocket Adventure: It's hard to fit this game in the main timeline, since its levels and story are mashups of Sonic 2 16bit and Sonic 3 & Knuckles. However, it fits in this timeline, where these games aren't canon. Also, this game's Knuckles seems to be the guardian/owner of a regular Chaos Emerald, rather than the Master Emerald.
*Another detail is that the only games in this timeline to have over 6 emeralds and feature Super Sonic are the last two ones. This is explained by the splitting of the emerald in Sonic Blast. Since there was less than 7 emeralds in this continuity prior to that event, Sonic couldn't go Super until after Sonic Blast.
*You could also easily fit Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Sky Patrol, Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R in this canon (as long as you put the latter two after Sonic Blast). However, I didn't bother including them because they're not that relevant to this timeline.
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