History WMG / SlyCooper

17th Oct '17 6:54:49 AM Snakebane
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** I honestly doubt that this would be the case in-universe, and out-of-universe I've seen evidence towards, at the very least, the ''potential'' existence of a fifth game. Beyond the fact that I've seen the creative director of ''Thieves in Time'' show interest in continuing the series in at least two interviews over the past few years, Sanzaru merely stated back in late 2014 that they had no clear plans for another game at that point in time (given that the game's sales were lower than expected), [[MisaimedFandom rather than an outright refusal to make a sequel]]. As for the TV show, it's unlikely that it'll be a ContinuityReboot since the series would've likely been rebooted with ''Thieves in Time'' if Sony even wanted to do one at all, and given both the major redesigns the desire to bring in a new audience the show has, it's even more unlikely that the show will be a continuation of ''Honor Among Thieves''.

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** I honestly doubt that this would be the case in-universe, and out-of-universe I've seen evidence towards, at the very least, the ''potential'' existence of a fifth game. Beyond the fact that I've seen the creative director of ''Thieves in Time'' show interest in continuing the series in at least two interviews over the past few years, Sanzaru merely stated back in late 2014 that they had no clear plans for another game at that point in time (given that the game's sales were lower than expected), [[MisaimedFandom rather than an outright refusal to make a sequel]]. As for the TV show, it's unlikely that it'll be a ContinuityReboot since the series would've likely been rebooted with ''Thieves in Time'' if Sony even wanted to do one at all, and given both the major redesigns the desire to bring in a new audience the show has, it's even more unlikely that the show will be a continuation of ''Honor Among Thieves''.Thieves''.

[[WMG: Neyla will appear in the [[http://www.animationmagazine.net/tv/technicolor-sony-team-on-cg-sly-cooper-series/ CG-animated television series]].]]
2nd Oct '17 2:14:56 AM Maljen
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** Penelope claims right after her reveal as the Black Knight that she and Bently could have made billions in weapon design. There's no doubt that money played a role in her resentment towards Sly over how she saw him as holding Bently back from being much richer and/or more influential. Even back in Honor Among Thieves she was the only teammate recruited with a lure of riches instead of joining out of loyalty, ideals, or from Sly helping her out like he did for Dimitri and Panda King. Penelope could have joined the Cooper Gang assuming they were master thieves who made bank looting whoever they wished, then became disgruntled as they showed themselves to be the honorable thieves she looked at with contempt, complete with losing interest in Sly as she knew him better. Once the Cooper Vault job ended with its destruction, she would continue to resent Sly for not only making them go so far for so little, but also since Bently would be looking after the Thievus Racconus and overall looking after the Cooper legacy instead of (in Penelope's eyes, anyway) going out in the world making his mark on it.

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** Penelope claims right after her reveal as the Black Knight that she and Bently could have made billions in weapon design. There's no doubt that money played a role in her resentment towards Sly over how she saw him as holding Bently back from being much richer and/or more influential. Even back in Honor Among Thieves she was the only teammate recruited with a lure of riches instead of joining out of loyalty, ideals, or from Sly helping her out like he did for Dimitri and Panda King. Penelope could have joined the Cooper Gang assuming they were master thieves who made bank looting whoever they wished, then became disgruntled as they showed themselves to be the honorable thieves she looked at with contempt, complete with losing interest in Sly as when she knew him better. Once the Cooper Vault job ended with its destruction, she would continue to resent Sly for not only making them go so far for so little, but also since Bently would be looking after guarding the Thievus Racconus Thievius Raccoonus and overall looking after the Cooper legacy instead of (in Penelope's eyes, anyway) going out in the world making his mark on it.



** To elaborate on this, Penelope, possibly after a future adventure of the Cooper Gang could get stranded in the far away past while using a golden machine for transport/combat. Out of desperation she manages to convert part of it into a life support system to keep her alive. As time passes she replaces more and more of her body as it gets more and more older, losing more of her self until what's left is the total basics (namely her hatred of a ringtailed raccon theif called Cooper). She could even remember her gender, but just never bothered to say otherwise since she had nothing to lose by being assumed male.

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** To elaborate on this, Penelope, possibly after a future adventure of the Cooper Gang could get stranded in the far away past while using a golden machine for transport/combat. Out of desperation she manages to convert part of it into a life support system to keep her alive. As time passes she replaces more and more of her body as it gets more and more older, losing more of her self until what's left is the total basics (namely her hatred of a ringtailed raccon raccoon theif called Cooper). She could even remember her gender, but just never bothered to say otherwise since she had nothing to lose by being assumed male. Her brutality would be one of the remnants of her old self, considering Penelope/Clockwerk's actions across millenia. The owl design could been part of the machine to begin with or got put into it as time went on.
2nd Oct '17 2:09:26 AM Maljen
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** Penelope claims right after her reveal as the Black Knight that she and Bently could have made billions in weapon design. There's no doubt that money played a role in her resentment towards Sly over how she saw him as holding Bently back from being much richer and/or more influential. Even back in Honor Among Thieves she was the only teammate recruited with a lure of riches instead of joining out of loyalty, ideals, or from Sly helping her out like he did for Dimitri and Panda King. Penelope could have joined the Cooper Gang assuming they were master thieves who made bank looting whoever they wished, then became disgruntled as they showed themselves to be the honorable thieves she looked at with contempt, complete with losing interest in Sly as she knew him better. Once the Cooper Vault job ended with its destruction, she would continue to resent Sly for not only making them go so far for so little, but also since Bently would be looking after the Thievus Racconus and overall looking after the Cooper legacy instead of (in Penelope's eyes, anyway) going out in the world making his mark on it.



** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Penelope]] is the one who turns Clockwerk from his original flesh-and-blood to his cyborg form.

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** To elaborate on this, Penelope, possibly after a future adventure of the Cooper Gang could get stranded in the far away past while using a golden machine for transport/combat. Out of desperation she manages to convert part of it into a life support system to keep her alive. As time passes she replaces more and more of her body as it gets more and more older, losing more of her self until what's left is the total basics (namely her hatred of a ringtailed raccon theif called Cooper). She could even remember her gender, but just never bothered to say otherwise since she had nothing to lose by being assumed male.
** Alternatively, [[spoiler:Penelope]] is the one who turns Clockwerk from his original flesh-and-blood to his cyborg form.
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30th Sep '17 4:51:17 PM Maljen
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[[WMG: Sly is his own Egyptian ancestor]]
Sly remains trapped in Ancient Egypt long enough for him to move on from his old life and marry an Egyptian lady. They have a child who has a child and so on until Sly is born to end both Clockwerk and the Cooper legacy. That means the Cooper line of thieves ends with Sly, concluding the series.
22nd Sep '17 3:09:56 PM BlueBlur62391
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Let's face it, guys. A fifth game is at this point as dead as ''[[Film/{{Tron}} TRON 3]]'', and the TV series might either be a ContinuityReboot or just continuing from where ''Honor Among Thieves'' left off. The best bet is that Bentley failed to build a time machine. Given magic is involved, the Guru would've warned him and Penelope of the results if they succeeded, and showed them via "getting into their heads and freaking them out" the events of the fourth game. A horrified Bentley would scrap the whole project, [[spoiler:saving Sly's life and Penelope's morality in the process]].

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Let's face it, guys. A fifth game is at this point as dead as ''[[Film/{{Tron}} TRON 3]]'', and the TV series might either be a ContinuityReboot or just continuing from where ''Honor Among Thieves'' left off. The best bet is that Bentley failed to build a time machine. Given magic is involved, the Guru would've warned him and Penelope of the results if they succeeded, and showed them via "getting into their heads and freaking them out" the events of the fourth game. A horrified Bentley would scrap the whole project, [[spoiler:saving Sly's life and Penelope's morality in the process]].process]].

**I honestly doubt that this would be the case in-universe, and out-of-universe I've seen evidence towards, at the very least, the ''potential'' existence of a fifth game. Beyond the fact that I've seen the creative director of ''Thieves in Time'' show interest in continuing the series in at least two interviews over the past few years, Sanzaru merely stated back in late 2014 that they had no clear plans for another game at that point in time (given that the game's sales were lower than expected), [[MisaimedFandom rather than an outright refusal to make a sequel]]. As for the TV show, it's unlikely that it'll be a ContinuityReboot since the series would've likely been rebooted with ''Thieves in Time'' if Sony even wanted to do one at all, and given both the major redesigns the desire to bring in a new audience the show has, it's even more unlikely that the show will be a continuation of ''Honor Among Thieves''.
16th Aug '17 4:56:09 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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The new inspector's main goal is to bring Carmelita to justice, as he views her as a traitor. Making him more tragic is the fact that he idolized her, and to find she has become a criminal herself gave him the desire to see her behind bars.

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The new inspector's main goal is to bring Carmelita to justice, as he views her as a traitor. Making him more tragic is the fact that he idolized her, and to find she has become a criminal herself gave him the desire to see her behind bars.bars.

[[WMG:''Thieves in Time'' is just a WhatIf scenario]]
Let's face it, guys. A fifth game is at this point as dead as ''[[Film/{{Tron}} TRON 3]]'', and the TV series might either be a ContinuityReboot or just continuing from where ''Honor Among Thieves'' left off. The best bet is that Bentley failed to build a time machine. Given magic is involved, the Guru would've warned him and Penelope of the results if they succeeded, and showed them via "getting into their heads and freaking them out" the events of the fourth game. A horrified Bentley would scrap the whole project, [[spoiler:saving Sly's life and Penelope's morality in the process]].
6th Aug '17 3:58:00 PM BNSF1995
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He'll be an aspiring cop who resents the criminal history of his ancestors, and will use the time machine to sabotage his families heists to cancel out their history of being thieves and free him from his past.

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He'll be an aspiring cop who resents the criminal history of his ancestors, and will use the time machine to sabotage his families heists to cancel out their history of being thieves and free him from his past.past.

[[WMG: There will be a new police inspector in the fifth game.]]
The new inspector's main goal is to bring Carmelita to justice, as he views her as a traitor. Making him more tragic is the fact that he idolized her, and to find she has become a criminal herself gave him the desire to see her behind bars.
12th May '17 5:05:03 PM Chardust
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Since Sly's [[spoiler: trapped in Ancient Egypt]] at the end of the 4th game. It's completely possible that this "Evil Sly" has an "Evil Cooper Gang" where "Evil Bentley" (Names not final) has a Universe-Hopping Machine (Since our Sly's universe has a '''time''' machine), with Evil Sly posing as our Sly, only to then attack our Bentley, Murray and Carmelita, These evil versions then hijack the Time Machine. And go around causing a trouble and mayhem. They eventually end up in [[spoiler: Egypt]], where Sly finds the Time Machine along with the Evil versions, now having to fight one of them.

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Since Sly's [[spoiler: trapped in Ancient Egypt]] at the end of the 4th game. It's completely possible that this "Evil Sly" has an "Evil Cooper Gang" where "Evil Bentley" (Names not final) has a Universe-Hopping Machine (Since our Sly's universe has a '''time''' machine), with Evil Sly posing as our Sly, only to then attack our Bentley, Murray and Carmelita, These evil versions then hijack the Time Machine. And go around causing a trouble and mayhem. They eventually end up in [[spoiler: Egypt]], where Sly finds the Time Machine along with the Evil versions, now having to fight one of them.them.

[[WMG: The BigBad, or atleast a major enemy in Sly 5 will be sly's and carmelita's son]]
He'll be an aspiring cop who resents the criminal history of his ancestors, and will use the time machine to sabotage his families heists to cancel out their history of being thieves and free him from his past.
30th Apr '17 11:15:08 AM nombretomado
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[[TheTonightShow He was a kleptomaniac from Cleveland who specialized in]] [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal copping clean copper clappers that were kept in closets.]]

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[[TheTonightShow [[Series/TheTonightShow He was a kleptomaniac from Cleveland who specialized in]] [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal copping clean copper clappers that were kept in closets.]]
13th Apr '17 5:58:40 PM Gosicrystal
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She was introduced in Sly 3, the same game where the central conflict was Dr. M and The Vault. And while the Vault was rebuilt, its contents (which would have propelled whoever finds and opens it straight to the {{Fiction500}}) were LostForever. Now, since it was Sly's fault that the vault was destroyed in the first place, she felt that she and Bentley's talents were squandered. (The fact that Sly and his gang are JustLikeRobinHood and don't actually keep their wealth or spend it in ConspicuousConsumption only adds to her disillusionment.) As a result, she [[spoiler:[[FaceHeelTurn turned evil]] [[EvilIsPetty because she thinks Sly's honor was making her a hobo.]]]] Alternately, she may have been {{Affably|Evil}} EvilAllAlong (her introduction was at a flying competition where competitors get shot out of the sky) and was simply drawn in the gang for riches. (Not much of a change from the FallenHero version but still likely). Regardless, she still has a genuine affection for Bentley [[spoiler:(she wouldn't make that [[WeCanRuleTogether offer]] otherwise).]]

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She was introduced in Sly 3, the same game where the central conflict was Dr. M and The Vault. And while the Vault was rebuilt, its contents (which would have propelled whoever finds and opens it straight to the {{Fiction500}}) were LostForever.lost. Now, since it was Sly's fault that the vault was destroyed in the first place, she felt that she and Bentley's talents were squandered. (The fact that Sly and his gang are JustLikeRobinHood and don't actually keep their wealth or spend it in ConspicuousConsumption only adds to her disillusionment.) As a result, she [[spoiler:[[FaceHeelTurn turned evil]] [[EvilIsPetty because she thinks Sly's honor was making her a hobo.]]]] Alternately, she may have been {{Affably|Evil}} EvilAllAlong (her introduction was at a flying competition where competitors get shot out of the sky) and was simply drawn in the gang for riches. (Not much of a change from the FallenHero version but still likely). Regardless, she still has a genuine affection for Bentley [[spoiler:(she wouldn't make that [[WeCanRuleTogether offer]] otherwise).]]
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