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* A version of the Saints from later down the time street mastered being able to teleport stuff across the universe with the Zin tech....and swapped earth's location with the [[{{Irony}} Zin Homeworld]] at the last second.
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* A version of the Saints from later down the time street mastered being able to teleport stuff across the universe with the Zin tech....and swapped earth's location with the [[Irony [[{{Irony}} Zin Homeworld.]]Homeworld]] at the last second.
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[[spoiler:Everything from the President's capture onwards was part of a carefully constructed simulation where, even when the Boss seems to break free, he's still in the simulation. Their spaceship? The attacks on the Zin's mothership? Johnny's survival? Zinyak's death? All part of the simulation, all to placate the Boss and keep them from breaking free. It would definitely explain Zinyak suddenly appearing during the DancePartyEnding.]]
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[[spoiler:Everything from the President's capture onwards was part of a carefully constructed simulation where, even when the Boss seems to break free, he's still in the simulation. Their spaceship? The attacks on the Zin's mothership? Johnny's survival? Zinyak's death? All part of the simulation, all to placate the Boss and keep them from breaking free. It would definitely explain Zinyak suddenly appearing during the DancePartyEnding.]]
[[WMG: Earth wasn't destroyed....]]
*A version of the Saints from later down the time street mastered being able to teleport stuff across the universe with the Zin tech....and swapped earth's location with the [[Irony Zin Homeworld.]]
[[WMG: Earth wasn't destroyed....]]
*A version of the Saints from later down the time street mastered being able to teleport stuff across the universe with the Zin tech....and swapped earth's location with the [[Irony Zin Homeworld.]]
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[[WMG:[[spoiler:The "Real World" is part of the simulation.]]]]
[[spoiler:Everything from the President's capture onwards was part of a carefully constructed simulation where, even when the Boss seems to break free, he's still in the simulation. Their spaceship? The attacks on the Zin's mothership? Johnny's survival? Zinyak's death? All part of the simulation, all to placate the Boss and keep them from breaking free. It would definitely explain Zinyak suddenly appearing during the DancePartyEnding.]]
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[[WMG: Southern Female Boss is from Alabama.]]
Sometimes, she'll mention life on a farm, and has various voice mannerisms common to the DeepSouth in general. What sells this WMG, however, is that she'll sometimes shout "Roll Tide!" in combat.
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** [[spoiler: semi-confirmed. She's only mentioned once, but given that the Earth is destroyed, she presumably died with it.]]
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[[spoiler: confirmed, the fan-theory that it was a combination of her sobering up and Gat's death is now canon.]]
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** [[spoiler: confirmed, even though Gat shows up alive somewhat later.]]
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After becoming bored from trying to unite humanity under one banner through peaceful means. The soon to be Emperor went on an extended drinking binge for several decades, partially losing his memory and joining a street gang for kicks. Because Boss Emperor is the biggest badass ever to walk the Earth, he raises his Saints (or rather, his "angels") from rabble to ruler of the most powerful nation on Earth. When a minor xeno fleet attacks Earth with a paltry few thousand warships, the Boss Emperor unites his followers, eradicates the attacking species, and restores Earth with advanced technology, thus ushering in the golden age of humanity. Afterall, who else could hold the Imperium together as a living corpse? As to the God Emperor's sex, well, that's what the Inquisition is for, to suppress the truth.
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After becoming bored from trying to unite humanity under one banner through peaceful means. The soon to be Emperor went on an extended drinking binge for several decades, partially losing his memory and joining a street gang for kicks. Because Boss Emperor is the biggest badass ever to walk the Earth, he raises his Saints (or rather, his "angels") from rabble to ruler of the most powerful nation on Earth. When a minor xeno fleet attacks Earth with a paltry few thousand warships, the Boss Emperor unites his followers, eradicates the attacking species, and restores Earth with advanced technology, thus ushering in the golden a new age of humanity.humanity from the lofty heights of his Golden Throne. Afterall, who else could hold the Imperium together as a living corpse? As to the God Emperor's sex, well, that's what the Inquisition is for, to suppress the truth.
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** At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking NiceHat and PimpDuds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...
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** At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking NiceHat and PimpDuds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...though...
[[WMG: Boss is the God Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40k]]
After becoming bored from trying to unite humanity under one banner through peaceful means. The soon to be Emperor went on an extended drinking binge for several decades, partially losing his memory and joining a street gang for kicks. Because Boss Emperor is the biggest badass ever to walk the Earth, he raises his Saints (or rather, his "angels") from rabble to ruler of the most powerful nation on Earth. When a minor xeno fleet attacks Earth with a paltry few thousand warships, the Boss Emperor unites his followers, eradicates the attacking species, and restores Earth with advanced technology, thus ushering in the golden age of humanity. Afterall, who else could hold the Imperium together as a living corpse? As to the God Emperor's sex, well, that's what the Inquisition is for, to suppress the truth.
[[WMG: Boss is the God Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40k]]
After becoming bored from trying to unite humanity under one banner through peaceful means. The soon to be Emperor went on an extended drinking binge for several decades, partially losing his memory and joining a street gang for kicks. Because Boss Emperor is the biggest badass ever to walk the Earth, he raises his Saints (or rather, his "angels") from rabble to ruler of the most powerful nation on Earth. When a minor xeno fleet attacks Earth with a paltry few thousand warships, the Boss Emperor unites his followers, eradicates the attacking species, and restores Earth with advanced technology, thus ushering in the golden age of humanity. Afterall, who else could hold the Imperium together as a living corpse? As to the God Emperor's sex, well, that's what the Inquisition is for, to suppress the truth.
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*** Keith David is actually TheThing.
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** Alternatively, it will end up a parody of said game. It would feel good to have ME3's Gainax Downer Ending parodied.
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** According to [[http://news.softpedia.com/news/Saints-Row-4-Achievements-Leaked-See-Them-All-Below-364423.shtml the leaked achievements]], it's either [[spoiler: [[WeCanRuleTogether rule the universe with your homeis]], [[ICanRuleAlone or rule by yourself]] (presumably, the "Bad" ending of "[[ShoutOut You Chose... Poorly]]" [[TooDumbToLive trying to partner up with Zinyak]]).]]
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** That, or he's ''wasn't'' killed at all, [[ElvisHasLeftThePlanet he just got abducted by the Zin]].
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--> Former wrestling superstar Angel De La Muerte has started the Steelport Wrestling School, giving guidance to a fresh crop of pupils. The veteran's regimen has drawn some fire for the dire actions its students must make, such as wading through a pool full of piranhas, punching each other with barbed-wire gloves, and something called the Margarine Treatment.Treatment.
** At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking NiceHat and PimpDuds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...
** At least one trailer showed a Saint in a ridiculous-looking NiceHat and PimpDuds, so Zimos is all but confirmed. Still need to wait for Angel, though...
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* Confirmed: Gat will return in all of his homicidal glory.
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-->Wrestling superstar Angel De La Muerte has made a grand reappearance in the squared circle last night, but sadly, cheers turned to gasps as the veteran wrestler suffered a possibly career-ending injury. Recent reports say he was last seen in the hospital, giving himself something called the Whiskey Treatment, cringing and trying to hold back screams.
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[[WMG: Angel and Zimos will make cameos.]]
They seem to be more interested in things other than politics (Angel loves wrestling, Zimos likes pimping), so they might just register a few mentions here and there, maybe on the radio.
-->Wrestling superstar Angel De La Muerte has made a grand reappearance in the squared circle last night, but sadly, cheers turned to gasps as the veteran wrestler suffered a possibly career-ending injury. Recent reports say he was last seen in the hospital, giving himself something called the Whiskey Treatment, cringing and trying to hold back screams.
[[WMG: Angel and Zimos will make cameos.]]
They seem to be more interested in things other than politics (Angel loves wrestling, Zimos likes pimping), so they might just register a few mentions here and there, maybe on the radio.
-->Wrestling superstar Angel De La Muerte has made a grand reappearance in the squared circle last night, but sadly, cheers turned to gasps as the veteran wrestler suffered a possibly career-ending injury. Recent reports say he was last seen in the hospital, giving himself something called the Whiskey Treatment, cringing and trying to hold back screams.
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* Killbane and Dex will [[LesCollaberteurs collaberate [[LesCollaborateurs collaborate with the aliens]].
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[[spoiler: The Boss never became leader of the Third Street Saints. He never became a celebrity. He never went to Steelport. He never defeated the Syndicate or STAG. He never became president. He never fought Zinyak. He's spending his final days in a coma in the hospital wing of Stilwater Prison.]]
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[[spoiler: The Boss never became leader of the Third Street Saints. He never became a celebrity. He never went to Steelport. He never defeated the Syndicate or STAG. He never became president. He never fought Zinyak. He's spending his final days in a coma in the hospital wing of Stilwater Prison.]]]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Gat is a Zin clone]]]]
* He'll partner with you during the game but in the final couple of missions he'll be forced to betray you and the boss will have to kill him. Of course by then you'll have found their cloning facilities and make another so you don't alienate players who still want him for the sandbox.
[[WMG: [[spoiler:Gat is a Zin clone]]]]
* He'll partner with you during the game but in the final couple of missions he'll be forced to betray you and the boss will have to kill him. Of course by then you'll have found their cloning facilities and make another so you don't alienate players who still want him for the sandbox.
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[[WMG: The ending will reveal [[spoiler:everything was a DyingDream]]]]
[[spoiler: The Boss never became leader of the Third Street Saints. He never became a celebrity. He never went to Steelport. He never defeated the Syndicate or STAG. He never became president. He never fought Zinyak. He's spending his final days in a coma in the hospital wing of Stilwater Prison.]]
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* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, [[spoiler:Killbane's status is still wide open.]] He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of going to Mars, [[spoiler:found the Zin.]]
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* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, [[spoiler:Killbane's status is still wide open.]] He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of going to Mars, [[spoiler:found the Zin.]]
[[WMG: The Ending will Of SRIV Will hold the Biggest [[SadisticChoice Sadistic Choice]] in the Series yet]] Where the Boss has to Choose between [[spoiler: Being the Ultimate Ruler of the Universe at the cost of the death of all the Saints, Or save the Saints but will forever be caged in the Simulation .]]
[[WMG: The Ending will Of SRIV Will hold the Biggest [[SadisticChoice Sadistic Choice]] in the Series yet]] Where the Boss has to Choose between [[spoiler: Being the Ultimate Ruler of the Universe at the cost of the death of all the Saints, Or save the Saints but will forever be caged in the Simulation .]]
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[[WMG: Assuming that Saint's row 4 will have the same 3-act format that Saints Row The third had, Killbane will be the Disc-one final boss of the first act.]]
[[WMG: Predictions for Saints Row 4]]
* Killbane and Dex will [[LesCollaberteurs collaberate with the aliens]].
** Zinyak and the aliens will be revealed to be Dex and the remnants of the Masako using stolen secret Ultor technology.
[[WMG: Saints Row 4 will have a OneLastJob storyline]]
Assuming that the [[DownerEnding ending]] where [[BloodKnight Shaundi]], [[AdamWesting Burt Reynolds]] and [[SixthRanger Viola Dewynter]] all die is canon, the game will begin with [[NoNameGiven Boss]], having retired from the gangster life, visting the graves of his fallen comrades, telling them how sorry he is that let them die, eventually he is contacted by either Pierce, Zimos, Kinzie, or Oleg for OneLastJob, and he decides to except it.
[[spoiler: ** The game seems to take a mix of the two, with Boss taking power even though s/he stopped STAG's terrorist attack.]]
* The game will have [[NoNameGiven Boss]] being haunted by [[BadDreams nightmares of the days he let Shaundi and Gat die.]]
** Given the alien invasion storyline and EmotionalTorque in the latest trailer that might be a possibility as a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', given the Saints are in a LotusEaterMachine and all.
[[WMG: Julius will be the main character of Saints Row 4, and the game will have [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater Metal Gear Solid 3]] expies.]]
[[spoiler: Well KeithDavid is the Vice President. Interestingly there is a line that's censored at the beginning of the game, so it might be that Boss going for revenge will be [[RetCon retconned]] like other elements have been.]]
[[WMG: The fourth Saint's Row game will be a RedFaction prequel.]]
* With the above guess established as canon, at some point in the fourth game The Saints will, in association with the Ultor Corporation, colonize Mars and the logical thing will happen from there.
[[WMG: Respawned people are hallucinations.]]
You regret killing people subconsciously, so your subconscious creates fakes to make you stay sane.
* Wouldn't killing the respawns then make you really insane?
* What makes this all the more insanely possible is the fact it would explain a lot of things, and that, while some events of the Saints Row series may be real, others could be the result of the Protagonist's mind becoming more and more warped:
** It would explain the shift from the somewhat reality-themed first game to the surrealistic sequel, as a result of the people he/she murdered, and he/she also probably got hit in the head in the boat explosion, which caused a form of permanent brain damage that makes him/her see things, making his/her's "hallucinations" problem even worse.
** [[spoiler: Lin's, Aisha's, and Carlos']] deaths were met with no small amount of denial by the Protagonist, and fueled by his/her inner desire to have them back, they DO return with a phone call to a voodoo company... but given his/her insanity, he/she only remembers that he/she was the cause of their deaths, so he/she only "sees" them as zombies and hears comments over the radio that they are zombies, corrupting the good memories he/she had of them.
** [[spoiler: The killing of Julius Little (the closest thing he/she had to a father figure) and the betrayal of Dex (a non-psychotic former close friend)]] actually wrecked the Boss' mind even more, to the point half the people he killed in the Looney Tunes-like mission "Ultor Family Fun Day" in the mission pack "Corporate Warfare" were either hallucinations, or real people he/she was actually killing -- And the ninjas at the rooftop? Either cops trying to put you down, or the memory of all the Ronin you slaughtered coming back to haunt you.
** ...The thing that may dismiss this theory, I admit, is the fact that, after I killed a cop, one of them said: "Don't worry! Nobody stays dead in Stillwater!". I kid you not.
[[WMG: You can control robots in Saints Row 4]]
[[spoiler: * Confirmed, mecha will be part of the game.]]
[[WMG: Possible plot of Saints Row 4]]
First of all the story will be slightly different depending on which final mission you did first if you have a game save of SaintsRowTheThird, or, if not, the game gives you a choice of whether or not [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]]. No matter the choice, the Boss is forced to return to Stilwater either way, but the HOW is different:
* If [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]] (Route A), the Saints return to Stilwater for the premiere of ''Ganstas in Space'' there, but the Boss is attack and/or the festivities are ruined when a gang shoot out erupts between members of three upstart gangs wishing to fill-in the partial vacuum left by the Saints during the events of the third game. Thus, the Boss has to boot out these losers from Stilwater.
* If [[spoiler: Shaundi is dead]] (Route B), the Saints are chillin' in the Broken Shillelagh or the Mayor [[spoiler: Pierce Washington]]'s office when a mysterious black garbed gang attacks them out of the blue. Though dispatched easily, the last remaining member blurts out a cryptic warning, saying that Stilwater will be the center of the coming reckoning before dosing himself with cyanide. This sparks worry in the Boss and feeling a bit homesick at this point with returns to Stilwater.
At this point, both A and B have established that Stilwater is under siege by three rival gangs, all of whom are connected to the Syndicate whose true colors are significantly DARKER than all the other groups faced before or after. The three major gangs are:
* '''[[color:blue: The Deckers]]''': Though returning and still having the [[TronLines neo-cyber-futuristic]] look, they drop the Goth and Emo trappings as Matt Miller officially quits when he is ordered by the leading gang of the Syndicate to set up shop in Stilwater, wanting to avoid the Boss at all costs. They are instead led by a new female leader and makes the gang in Stilwater a mostly all-girls club with a new style to compliment the neo-cyber-futuristic look.
* '''[[color:green: The Sons of Samedi]]''': Another returning gang, it turns out that the Sons are in fact members of the Syndicate and have becoming much bigger internationally since their defeat in Stilwater, becoming far more successful in their home of the Carribean and in Africa. The gang is led by the cousin of the General, who was once an African warlord turned crime lord after the death of his brother. Initially volunteers to gain territory in Stilwater to take revenge against the Boss.
* '''[[color:yellow: The Remnants]]''': Either the combination of whatever dregs still remained of not only the Brotherhood but also of all three gangs from the very first game forcefully puts together by the Syndicate or an entirely different group all together.
One major plot point during the game would be the intense rivalry between the Sons and the Deckers, not only due to [[MagicVersusScience differing methods of crime and beliefs]], but also because the Sons' new leader is a [[StrawMisogynist chauvenist who believes women are only good for making children]] and is forced to be in League with a [[AmazonBrigade a entirely made up of girl that can go toe-to-toe with his gang]]. The Saints take advantage of this and excellate the rivalry to where the leaders of both factions duking it out in a no holds barred [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind dreamscape of epic proportions with the]] [[UpToEleven Deckers' leader using a tricked out internet avatar similar to what Matt Miller used and the Sons' leader using a dream avatar induced from drug-induced trance]]. The Boss uses [[SerialEscalation BOTH methods simultaneously to enter the fight and make a MeleeATrois]], with you choosing which one to take down to make permanently brain dead, forcing you to defeat the remaining fighter back in the real world.
Meanwhile, the overall story arc will involve the Saints directly facing against a group calling themselves '''[[evil: The True Syndicate]]''',the gang that controls the entire Syndicate and the guys [[ManBehindTheMan that Phillipe Loren used to answer to]] before he was killed. The leaders, whom are never seen and fought until the very end of the game, believe themselves to be the ancestors of the few sinners whom survived God's cleansing of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and use their global organization as their way of [[ReligionOfEvil bringing together all of the planet's Evil together and spreading the word of their near-fanatical devotion to crime]], making the group essentially a cult bordering on Satanic. Backstory reveals that Killbane[[spoiler: , having no idea the true leading group ever existed and thinking the Syndicate was merely a equalized coalition or something]] went rogue [[spoiler: by electing himself the new leader after Phillipe's death without going through proper channels]].
In Route A, the Boss chews out Viola about this when she reveals she knew about these guys from beginning and never bothered to tell him/her.
Things are further complicated when '''[[color:grey: STAG]]''' is involved. However, leadership, interactions with them, and ultimately the story depends on the Routes:
* Route A: Commander Cyrus returns [[spoiler: with a new second-in-command]], forced out of retirement and once again clashes against the Saints. However, Cyrus [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure is a bit more mellowed out]] towards the Saints due to the TRUE Syndicate revealing themselves and seeing them as the bigger threat, leading up to a an epic EnemyMine when the Syndicate go into their master plan.
* Route B: Kia is the Commander of STAG [[spoiler: due to Cyrus getting killed off]]. She comes back [[spoiler: after somehow surviving her own false terrorist plot to incriminate the Saints due to unseen cybernetic implants and replacements]] and quite possibly even MORE extreme then before, resulting in STAG not only managing to [[CurbStompBattle COMPLETELY decimate the Syndicate]] but also [[MoralEventHorizon starting to plan possible world domination]] [[KnightTemplar to eradicate all crime off the face of the Earth]].
Now comes the endings, dependent on which Route is taken and once again having a choice of final missions that effects the final ending:
* Route A: The TRUE syndicate has revealed that their final plan is to summon the single demon or legion of demons the leaders are worshiping onto the Living Realm, sacrificing the souls of all of Stilwater and using the city as said demon('s/s') main landing spot. The Saints then team up with STAG to siege the Syndicate's base of operations and then battling against its leaders one by one, whom [[DemoincPossession allow their patron "gods" to take control of their bodies]], turning them into [[BodyHorror horrendous monsters]]. The Boss finally encounters the Top Leader of the Syndicate. Instead of fighting the villain, he [[ExitVillainStageLeft bounces instead]] into the now, thankfully, human sized portal into Hell. Here you have the choice of either following the madman into Hell, or just shutting down the portal.
** Going Global: The Boss shuts down the portal and is declared a National Hero by the President. Skip to somewhere in Switzerland where The Syndicate, no longer having the TRUE Syndicate as its leader, come together to decide who will run the entire organization. Killbane makes his appearance to declare himself the leader and for anyone who objects to face him in combat. Enter the Boss. This leads to a giant shootout mission where you have kill off all the Syndicate Leaders and then search out and kill Killbane himself all within a time limit. Afterwards, the Syndicate then belongs to the Saints, making the Boss essentially ruler of all crime on Earth.
** Fallen Angels: The Boss winds up in Hell. The True Syndicate Leader ambushes him with a more powerful demonic form and ready to kill the Boss.........but then he gets rescued by [[spoiler: [[BigDamnHeroes Julius and Johnny Gat]] ]]. They then become your homeys in this final battle where you not only have to destroy the True Leader but also the souls of every single major rival gang leader the Boss has ever killed in the entire series. Soon the battle is over, and the Boss meets up with all the other members of the Saints whom wound up in Hell. Flashforward, with a funeral set up for the Boss with control the Saints going to Shaundi and Kinzie, who reveals that she had feelings for the Boss. At the same time, in Hell, the Boss has become one of the top ranking Lords as well as gaining the ability to freely go between Hell and the Living Realm freely without having to possess someone. The final scene has the Boss, along with [[spoiler: Julius and Johnny Gat]], bursting into [[spoiler: Lucifer's throne room and preparing to takeover Hell itself]].
* Route B: The President of the United States along with delegates from the United Nations converge together in Stilwater under the pretense of discussing how to deal with international crime, especially the Saints. Kia, however, plans to rig explosives around the meeting location, basically a repeat of her previous [[spoiler: successful]] plan to discredit the Saints but on a much, MUCH larger scale. Kinzie catches wind of this, and the Boss goes off to save the day. He manages to disarm the bombs and [[EngineeredPublicConfession publicly reveal that Kia was the one who blew up the national landmark from the previous game]]. However, at this point, [[DrivenToInsanity she's mentally at a state where she doesn't care anymore]] and, in a fit of rage, uses the President of the United States as a meat shield to make her escape.. A chase ensues, and during and after you are given the choice of either rescuing the President or focusing entirely on killing Kia.
** KlingonPromotion: The Boss manages to rescue the President, but then Kia gets away. Luckily, the President orders a full on missile strike on Kia's escape vehicle, which is soon completely destroyed with little chance of her being alive. The Boss is then declared an international hero recognized by both the US and the UN. As a reward for preventing Kia from taking over the world, the Saints are allowed to keep Steelport [[spoiler: as a separate city-state]] as well as one other wish. Flashforward to a random country in either the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa, or South East Asia ruled by a bloody and violent dictatorship. NATO ships and choppers arrive, but instead of soldiers, members of the Saints arrive with the final mission being a gansta blitz on the country, with the Boss gunning down the leaders of the country and becoming its new ruler. It is revealed the Saints are to be the ones officially sent in by the UN to various dictator controlled countries who refuse to crack down on human rights violations with the gang allowed to conquer the first country they are sent to with automatic UN membership. The Boss chooses Oleg to become the country's new president, which has become the Saints' first ever non-US turf. A short epilogue plays, telling how the country became prosperous and enters a new golden age while under the Saints' control, with the small country becoming a major player in world politics and the Boss eventually revered as a God by the inhabitants.
** New World Order: The Boss allows the President to be killed, by Kia gets away anyway. A few days later, nothing is heard from Kia... until she makes an international announcement that STAG has officially [[NGOSuperpower broken off all ties to the US]] and plans to systematically destroy every major city on the planet unless the governments of each country [[AllCrimesAreEqual enact and carry out death penalties to every single criminal and gang member]] [[DisproportionateRetribution no matter the crime, even littering]], with Stilwater being the first city she wipes out just to show STAG's power. She arrives in a truly MASSIVE airship [[spoiler: that's even BIGGER than the Daedelus]]. Basically World War III erupts, with STAG against the entire UN with the Saints spearheading the attack on the airship. The Boss manages to get inside and cause it to self destruct and/or strapped enough bombs at major weakpoints to blow the ship out of the sky, but then has to face off against Kia, who has strapped herself inside a freakin' giant mech, while under a time limit. The Boss emerges victorious and escapes the airship. The Boss is declared a National Hero and (s)he becomes so revered by the US public that (s)he's unanimously elected as President. [[spoiler: A short epilogue plays where the US under the Boss's leadership leads to the country reaching a level of prosperity unseen since during and right after WorldWarII, and (s)he becomes so popular (s)he is the first president to have four consecutive terms of office.]] His final act as President before willingly stepping down and retiring was to officially open the very first completed colony [[RedFaction on Mars]]...
** Unlikely and since Hughes is running for president and will likely be in office by the time of Saint Row 4, she probably won't help them and she will more than likely be the main antagonist. Also, KIA dies in both endings, she either dies in the explosion if you go after Killbane or the boss kills her if you rescue Viola,Burt and Shaundi.
** Please, PLEASE be the writer for Saints Row 4. This sounds awesome in about 20 different ways.
** THQ rang: you're hired.
[[WMG: The final mission of the fourth game will have The Saints fighting off an alien invasion with a modified Daedalus.]]
As noted [[http://www.giantbomb.com/news/enter-the-dominatrix-dies-so-that-a-full-saints-row-sequel-might-live/4226/ here]], the planned DLC that mutated into a sequel featured an alien invasion. In the darker finale to Saints Row 3, Kinzie mentions that once she obtains the plans to the Daedalus, they could have a new one operational within a few years. ''You do the math.''
[[WMG: Assuming that the ending where you save Shaundi, Reynolds, and Viola is canon, the forth game will feature an EnemyMine between the Saints and STAG]]
* (Not original poster) What if both endings are canon, to an extent? Everyone is saved, the movie is still made, and the Boss still declares Steelport his own city-state. And STAG merges with the Saints like Ultor, and becomes the new Steelport Police Department/Armed Forces. That also potentially allows cutscenes from both endings to form the opening of the next game. Plus, RuleOfCool - the Saints have a private army. With laser-armed VTOLs and tanks. Either way, they will also have Daedalus - either the original, or Kinzie's rebuild.
[[spoiler: ** Both endings are in some way canon. Boss saves Shaundi Viola and Reynolds and STAG are shown to be terrorist, before Boss becomes President.]]
[[WMG: The storyline of Saints Row 4 will have the Saints trying to acquire nukes and become a nuclear power.]]
* The game designers said they were going to follow on with a logical extension of the third game's ending. Unless this is a case of GodNeverSaidThat? I am quoting that second hand.
[[spoiler: ** Logical extension as in all out nuts to the wall anything goes craziness by all accounts: ''Gangsters in Space'' was a movie, ''The Trouble With Clones'' gave Boss superpowers and the fourth game is an extension something called ''Enter the Dominatrix'' with is a play on TheMatrix and throws in an alien invasion when Boss becomes President.]]
[[WMG: In ''Saints Row IV'', [[spoiler:Viola dies]]]]
* If one looks at the list of achievements/trophies for ''Saints Row IV'', one will notice that one of the missions is called [[spoiler:"Dewynter Blues"]]. There is a mission with a similar title in ''Saints Row: The Third'' called [[spoiler:"Stilwater Blues"]], where [[spoiler:Shaundi is kidnapped for the first time in ''The Third'']], which is reminiscent of [[spoiler:Shaundi being kidnapped in ''Saints Row 2'']]. If this plays out the same way, then [[spoiler:"Dewynter Blues"]] will be reminiscent of [[spoiler:Viola's twin sister, Kiki, being killed in ''The Third'']].
[[WMG: Shaundi's sudden change in attitude will be explained in Saints Row IV]]
[[spoiler: Shaundi from SaintsRowTheThird meets her old self from SaintsRow2, so at the very least it will be touched upon.
[[WMG: Shaundi's 'nightmare/baggage' used against her by the Zin in IV will be [[spoiler:Gat's death.]]]]
A scene in the trailer showed Shaundi in an area similar to the Syndicate's plane, and it looked like [[spoiler:Gat's body]] was next to her, with a knife stuck in it. Plus, it would be a nice way to give her and Boss some more closure.
[[WMG: Alternatively, Gat will be referenced in some way in Saints Row IV]]
Because why not?
[[WMG: SaintsRowIV will be a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.]]
* Alien invasion. Ramping up the emotion. Reliving traumatic events. Atlas mechs. KeithDavid teaming up with who you can make Shepard. It's pretty much inevitable.
[[WMG: KeithDavid voices the Vice President, but it's actually...]]
* Julius. Three reasons why this is possible.
** Each game in the series has a Retcon from the previous one. In the second Boss can be female, and becomes nothing more than a sociopath. In the third game s/he tones this down a lot, Shaundi is completely different and the Saints are seen as celebrities that they wouldn't be if they were the way they acted in the second game. The fourth merges both endings from the third and seemingly completely ignores certain events. Speaking of...
** A conversation with Shaundi is censored when she mentions who MI6 helped the Saints kill. If it was Killbane he lived in the ending where Shaundi is saved. The Saints may have killed him later but this has yet to be confirmed.
** The secret mission where Boss kills Julius is never brought up. If Boss never did seek revenge then having mellowed out on being a psychotic asshole s/he may have sought out the old gang leader in a role reversal. Keep in mind a moral choice at the beginning of the game is to either work on ending world hunger or cancer, perhaps the most heroic thing Boss has ever done. If s/he's done that then maybe Boss and Julius have made amends, especially if Troy and Gat seem to had done so.
*** This part, at least, appears to be {{Jossed}}. KeithDavid is playing [[AsHimself Vice President Keith David]].
[[WMG: "Keith David" is actually Julius impersonating Keith David, and will pull a FaceHeelTurn.]]
* This seems like exactly the sort of meta twist this series would pull off. Perhaps Julius survived getting shot by the Boss through the interference of the aliens, and considers Earth getting enslaved by space aliens to be better than letting [[SociopathicHero the Boss]] run the free world.
** Related to the above, maybe he'll turn out to be the real BigBad of the game. You'll end up killing Zinyak in an anticlimactic fashion partway through the game, like [[spoiler: Phillipe Loren]] in Saints Row 3.
[[WMG: Shaundi will play an important part in the story.]]
* No shit right? However like the third game you have to make choices. Well SaintsRowIV look to be going for more emotional punch. In the third game you had to choose whether to sacrifice her to kill Killbane. In the fourth there's two Shaundis. What if you could only save one and that determined to some extent the ending?
[[WMG: Kenzie will pull a FaceHeelTurn by joining the aliens.]]
She seems slightly more annoyed than usual with the President, and eagerly points out to Zinyak that she is smarter than everyone else, showing some of her ego. Would it be too much of a stretch for her to get so arrogant that she would ditch the Saints and join the Zin?
[[WMG: If the boss ever gets a canon LoveInterest, it's Kinzie.]]
Well, there must be a reason why she was the one specifically snogging the boss in one of the VideoGame/SaintsRowIV trailers. Not to mention the ShipTease in another trailer when she thinks the boss was saying she was beautiful (he was talking about a giant robot, but still). On top of that, one of the bosses in SaintsRowTheThird confesses love for her when she says she'll swipe the Daedalus's specs in the [[spoiler: Kill Killbane]] ending.
** The achievements suggest there will be numerous romance options in the game.
[[WMG: Dex will return in Saints Row IV.]]
In the gameplay video of the 1950's suburban scene Shaundi (as the Boss' housewife) mentions characters which include Dex. Plus with the Boss as President, Dex definitely would have something to say.
[[WMG: Predictions for Saints Row 4]]
* Killbane and Dex will [[LesCollaberteurs collaberate with the aliens]].
** Zinyak and the aliens will be revealed to be Dex and the remnants of the Masako using stolen secret Ultor technology.
[[WMG: Saints Row 4 will have a OneLastJob storyline]]
Assuming that the [[DownerEnding ending]] where [[BloodKnight Shaundi]], [[AdamWesting Burt Reynolds]] and [[SixthRanger Viola Dewynter]] all die is canon, the game will begin with [[NoNameGiven Boss]], having retired from the gangster life, visting the graves of his fallen comrades, telling them how sorry he is that let them die, eventually he is contacted by either Pierce, Zimos, Kinzie, or Oleg for OneLastJob, and he decides to except it.
[[spoiler: ** The game seems to take a mix of the two, with Boss taking power even though s/he stopped STAG's terrorist attack.]]
* The game will have [[NoNameGiven Boss]] being haunted by [[BadDreams nightmares of the days he let Shaundi and Gat die.]]
** Given the alien invasion storyline and EmotionalTorque in the latest trailer that might be a possibility as a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'', given the Saints are in a LotusEaterMachine and all.
[[WMG: Julius will be the main character of Saints Row 4, and the game will have [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater Metal Gear Solid 3]] expies.]]
[[spoiler: Well KeithDavid is the Vice President. Interestingly there is a line that's censored at the beginning of the game, so it might be that Boss going for revenge will be [[RetCon retconned]] like other elements have been.]]
[[WMG: The fourth Saint's Row game will be a RedFaction prequel.]]
* With the above guess established as canon, at some point in the fourth game The Saints will, in association with the Ultor Corporation, colonize Mars and the logical thing will happen from there.
[[WMG: Respawned people are hallucinations.]]
You regret killing people subconsciously, so your subconscious creates fakes to make you stay sane.
* Wouldn't killing the respawns then make you really insane?
* What makes this all the more insanely possible is the fact it would explain a lot of things, and that, while some events of the Saints Row series may be real, others could be the result of the Protagonist's mind becoming more and more warped:
** It would explain the shift from the somewhat reality-themed first game to the surrealistic sequel, as a result of the people he/she murdered, and he/she also probably got hit in the head in the boat explosion, which caused a form of permanent brain damage that makes him/her see things, making his/her's "hallucinations" problem even worse.
** [[spoiler: Lin's, Aisha's, and Carlos']] deaths were met with no small amount of denial by the Protagonist, and fueled by his/her inner desire to have them back, they DO return with a phone call to a voodoo company... but given his/her insanity, he/she only remembers that he/she was the cause of their deaths, so he/she only "sees" them as zombies and hears comments over the radio that they are zombies, corrupting the good memories he/she had of them.
** [[spoiler: The killing of Julius Little (the closest thing he/she had to a father figure) and the betrayal of Dex (a non-psychotic former close friend)]] actually wrecked the Boss' mind even more, to the point half the people he killed in the Looney Tunes-like mission "Ultor Family Fun Day" in the mission pack "Corporate Warfare" were either hallucinations, or real people he/she was actually killing -- And the ninjas at the rooftop? Either cops trying to put you down, or the memory of all the Ronin you slaughtered coming back to haunt you.
** ...The thing that may dismiss this theory, I admit, is the fact that, after I killed a cop, one of them said: "Don't worry! Nobody stays dead in Stillwater!". I kid you not.
[[WMG: You can control robots in Saints Row 4]]
[[spoiler: * Confirmed, mecha will be part of the game.]]
[[WMG: Possible plot of Saints Row 4]]
First of all the story will be slightly different depending on which final mission you did first if you have a game save of SaintsRowTheThird, or, if not, the game gives you a choice of whether or not [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]]. No matter the choice, the Boss is forced to return to Stilwater either way, but the HOW is different:
* If [[spoiler: Shaundi is alive]] (Route A), the Saints return to Stilwater for the premiere of ''Ganstas in Space'' there, but the Boss is attack and/or the festivities are ruined when a gang shoot out erupts between members of three upstart gangs wishing to fill-in the partial vacuum left by the Saints during the events of the third game. Thus, the Boss has to boot out these losers from Stilwater.
* If [[spoiler: Shaundi is dead]] (Route B), the Saints are chillin' in the Broken Shillelagh or the Mayor [[spoiler: Pierce Washington]]'s office when a mysterious black garbed gang attacks them out of the blue. Though dispatched easily, the last remaining member blurts out a cryptic warning, saying that Stilwater will be the center of the coming reckoning before dosing himself with cyanide. This sparks worry in the Boss and feeling a bit homesick at this point with returns to Stilwater.
At this point, both A and B have established that Stilwater is under siege by three rival gangs, all of whom are connected to the Syndicate whose true colors are significantly DARKER than all the other groups faced before or after. The three major gangs are:
* '''[[color:blue: The Deckers]]''': Though returning and still having the [[TronLines neo-cyber-futuristic]] look, they drop the Goth and Emo trappings as Matt Miller officially quits when he is ordered by the leading gang of the Syndicate to set up shop in Stilwater, wanting to avoid the Boss at all costs. They are instead led by a new female leader and makes the gang in Stilwater a mostly all-girls club with a new style to compliment the neo-cyber-futuristic look.
* '''[[color:green: The Sons of Samedi]]''': Another returning gang, it turns out that the Sons are in fact members of the Syndicate and have becoming much bigger internationally since their defeat in Stilwater, becoming far more successful in their home of the Carribean and in Africa. The gang is led by the cousin of the General, who was once an African warlord turned crime lord after the death of his brother. Initially volunteers to gain territory in Stilwater to take revenge against the Boss.
* '''[[color:yellow: The Remnants]]''': Either the combination of whatever dregs still remained of not only the Brotherhood but also of all three gangs from the very first game forcefully puts together by the Syndicate or an entirely different group all together.
One major plot point during the game would be the intense rivalry between the Sons and the Deckers, not only due to [[MagicVersusScience differing methods of crime and beliefs]], but also because the Sons' new leader is a [[StrawMisogynist chauvenist who believes women are only good for making children]] and is forced to be in League with a [[AmazonBrigade a entirely made up of girl that can go toe-to-toe with his gang]]. The Saints take advantage of this and excellate the rivalry to where the leaders of both factions duking it out in a no holds barred [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind dreamscape of epic proportions with the]] [[UpToEleven Deckers' leader using a tricked out internet avatar similar to what Matt Miller used and the Sons' leader using a dream avatar induced from drug-induced trance]]. The Boss uses [[SerialEscalation BOTH methods simultaneously to enter the fight and make a MeleeATrois]], with you choosing which one to take down to make permanently brain dead, forcing you to defeat the remaining fighter back in the real world.
Meanwhile, the overall story arc will involve the Saints directly facing against a group calling themselves '''[[evil: The True Syndicate]]''',the gang that controls the entire Syndicate and the guys [[ManBehindTheMan that Phillipe Loren used to answer to]] before he was killed. The leaders, whom are never seen and fought until the very end of the game, believe themselves to be the ancestors of the few sinners whom survived God's cleansing of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and use their global organization as their way of [[ReligionOfEvil bringing together all of the planet's Evil together and spreading the word of their near-fanatical devotion to crime]], making the group essentially a cult bordering on Satanic. Backstory reveals that Killbane[[spoiler: , having no idea the true leading group ever existed and thinking the Syndicate was merely a equalized coalition or something]] went rogue [[spoiler: by electing himself the new leader after Phillipe's death without going through proper channels]].
In Route A, the Boss chews out Viola about this when she reveals she knew about these guys from beginning and never bothered to tell him/her.
Things are further complicated when '''[[color:grey: STAG]]''' is involved. However, leadership, interactions with them, and ultimately the story depends on the Routes:
* Route A: Commander Cyrus returns [[spoiler: with a new second-in-command]], forced out of retirement and once again clashes against the Saints. However, Cyrus [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure is a bit more mellowed out]] towards the Saints due to the TRUE Syndicate revealing themselves and seeing them as the bigger threat, leading up to a an epic EnemyMine when the Syndicate go into their master plan.
* Route B: Kia is the Commander of STAG [[spoiler: due to Cyrus getting killed off]]. She comes back [[spoiler: after somehow surviving her own false terrorist plot to incriminate the Saints due to unseen cybernetic implants and replacements]] and quite possibly even MORE extreme then before, resulting in STAG not only managing to [[CurbStompBattle COMPLETELY decimate the Syndicate]] but also [[MoralEventHorizon starting to plan possible world domination]] [[KnightTemplar to eradicate all crime off the face of the Earth]].
Now comes the endings, dependent on which Route is taken and once again having a choice of final missions that effects the final ending:
* Route A: The TRUE syndicate has revealed that their final plan is to summon the single demon or legion of demons the leaders are worshiping onto the Living Realm, sacrificing the souls of all of Stilwater and using the city as said demon('s/s') main landing spot. The Saints then team up with STAG to siege the Syndicate's base of operations and then battling against its leaders one by one, whom [[DemoincPossession allow their patron "gods" to take control of their bodies]], turning them into [[BodyHorror horrendous monsters]]. The Boss finally encounters the Top Leader of the Syndicate. Instead of fighting the villain, he [[ExitVillainStageLeft bounces instead]] into the now, thankfully, human sized portal into Hell. Here you have the choice of either following the madman into Hell, or just shutting down the portal.
** Going Global: The Boss shuts down the portal and is declared a National Hero by the President. Skip to somewhere in Switzerland where The Syndicate, no longer having the TRUE Syndicate as its leader, come together to decide who will run the entire organization. Killbane makes his appearance to declare himself the leader and for anyone who objects to face him in combat. Enter the Boss. This leads to a giant shootout mission where you have kill off all the Syndicate Leaders and then search out and kill Killbane himself all within a time limit. Afterwards, the Syndicate then belongs to the Saints, making the Boss essentially ruler of all crime on Earth.
** Fallen Angels: The Boss winds up in Hell. The True Syndicate Leader ambushes him with a more powerful demonic form and ready to kill the Boss.........but then he gets rescued by [[spoiler: [[BigDamnHeroes Julius and Johnny Gat]] ]]. They then become your homeys in this final battle where you not only have to destroy the True Leader but also the souls of every single major rival gang leader the Boss has ever killed in the entire series. Soon the battle is over, and the Boss meets up with all the other members of the Saints whom wound up in Hell. Flashforward, with a funeral set up for the Boss with control the Saints going to Shaundi and Kinzie, who reveals that she had feelings for the Boss. At the same time, in Hell, the Boss has become one of the top ranking Lords as well as gaining the ability to freely go between Hell and the Living Realm freely without having to possess someone. The final scene has the Boss, along with [[spoiler: Julius and Johnny Gat]], bursting into [[spoiler: Lucifer's throne room and preparing to takeover Hell itself]].
* Route B: The President of the United States along with delegates from the United Nations converge together in Stilwater under the pretense of discussing how to deal with international crime, especially the Saints. Kia, however, plans to rig explosives around the meeting location, basically a repeat of her previous [[spoiler: successful]] plan to discredit the Saints but on a much, MUCH larger scale. Kinzie catches wind of this, and the Boss goes off to save the day. He manages to disarm the bombs and [[EngineeredPublicConfession publicly reveal that Kia was the one who blew up the national landmark from the previous game]]. However, at this point, [[DrivenToInsanity she's mentally at a state where she doesn't care anymore]] and, in a fit of rage, uses the President of the United States as a meat shield to make her escape.. A chase ensues, and during and after you are given the choice of either rescuing the President or focusing entirely on killing Kia.
** KlingonPromotion: The Boss manages to rescue the President, but then Kia gets away. Luckily, the President orders a full on missile strike on Kia's escape vehicle, which is soon completely destroyed with little chance of her being alive. The Boss is then declared an international hero recognized by both the US and the UN. As a reward for preventing Kia from taking over the world, the Saints are allowed to keep Steelport [[spoiler: as a separate city-state]] as well as one other wish. Flashforward to a random country in either the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa, or South East Asia ruled by a bloody and violent dictatorship. NATO ships and choppers arrive, but instead of soldiers, members of the Saints arrive with the final mission being a gansta blitz on the country, with the Boss gunning down the leaders of the country and becoming its new ruler. It is revealed the Saints are to be the ones officially sent in by the UN to various dictator controlled countries who refuse to crack down on human rights violations with the gang allowed to conquer the first country they are sent to with automatic UN membership. The Boss chooses Oleg to become the country's new president, which has become the Saints' first ever non-US turf. A short epilogue plays, telling how the country became prosperous and enters a new golden age while under the Saints' control, with the small country becoming a major player in world politics and the Boss eventually revered as a God by the inhabitants.
** New World Order: The Boss allows the President to be killed, by Kia gets away anyway. A few days later, nothing is heard from Kia... until she makes an international announcement that STAG has officially [[NGOSuperpower broken off all ties to the US]] and plans to systematically destroy every major city on the planet unless the governments of each country [[AllCrimesAreEqual enact and carry out death penalties to every single criminal and gang member]] [[DisproportionateRetribution no matter the crime, even littering]], with Stilwater being the first city she wipes out just to show STAG's power. She arrives in a truly MASSIVE airship [[spoiler: that's even BIGGER than the Daedelus]]. Basically World War III erupts, with STAG against the entire UN with the Saints spearheading the attack on the airship. The Boss manages to get inside and cause it to self destruct and/or strapped enough bombs at major weakpoints to blow the ship out of the sky, but then has to face off against Kia, who has strapped herself inside a freakin' giant mech, while under a time limit. The Boss emerges victorious and escapes the airship. The Boss is declared a National Hero and (s)he becomes so revered by the US public that (s)he's unanimously elected as President. [[spoiler: A short epilogue plays where the US under the Boss's leadership leads to the country reaching a level of prosperity unseen since during and right after WorldWarII, and (s)he becomes so popular (s)he is the first president to have four consecutive terms of office.]] His final act as President before willingly stepping down and retiring was to officially open the very first completed colony [[RedFaction on Mars]]...
** Unlikely and since Hughes is running for president and will likely be in office by the time of Saint Row 4, she probably won't help them and she will more than likely be the main antagonist. Also, KIA dies in both endings, she either dies in the explosion if you go after Killbane or the boss kills her if you rescue Viola,Burt and Shaundi.
** Please, PLEASE be the writer for Saints Row 4. This sounds awesome in about 20 different ways.
** THQ rang: you're hired.
[[WMG: The final mission of the fourth game will have The Saints fighting off an alien invasion with a modified Daedalus.]]
As noted [[http://www.giantbomb.com/news/enter-the-dominatrix-dies-so-that-a-full-saints-row-sequel-might-live/4226/ here]], the planned DLC that mutated into a sequel featured an alien invasion. In the darker finale to Saints Row 3, Kinzie mentions that once she obtains the plans to the Daedalus, they could have a new one operational within a few years. ''You do the math.''
[[WMG: Assuming that the ending where you save Shaundi, Reynolds, and Viola is canon, the forth game will feature an EnemyMine between the Saints and STAG]]
* (Not original poster) What if both endings are canon, to an extent? Everyone is saved, the movie is still made, and the Boss still declares Steelport his own city-state. And STAG merges with the Saints like Ultor, and becomes the new Steelport Police Department/Armed Forces. That also potentially allows cutscenes from both endings to form the opening of the next game. Plus, RuleOfCool - the Saints have a private army. With laser-armed VTOLs and tanks. Either way, they will also have Daedalus - either the original, or Kinzie's rebuild.
[[spoiler: ** Both endings are in some way canon. Boss saves Shaundi Viola and Reynolds and STAG are shown to be terrorist, before Boss becomes President.]]
[[WMG: The storyline of Saints Row 4 will have the Saints trying to acquire nukes and become a nuclear power.]]
* The game designers said they were going to follow on with a logical extension of the third game's ending. Unless this is a case of GodNeverSaidThat? I am quoting that second hand.
[[spoiler: ** Logical extension as in all out nuts to the wall anything goes craziness by all accounts: ''Gangsters in Space'' was a movie, ''The Trouble With Clones'' gave Boss superpowers and the fourth game is an extension something called ''Enter the Dominatrix'' with is a play on TheMatrix and throws in an alien invasion when Boss becomes President.]]
[[WMG: In ''Saints Row IV'', [[spoiler:Viola dies]]]]
* If one looks at the list of achievements/trophies for ''Saints Row IV'', one will notice that one of the missions is called [[spoiler:"Dewynter Blues"]]. There is a mission with a similar title in ''Saints Row: The Third'' called [[spoiler:"Stilwater Blues"]], where [[spoiler:Shaundi is kidnapped for the first time in ''The Third'']], which is reminiscent of [[spoiler:Shaundi being kidnapped in ''Saints Row 2'']]. If this plays out the same way, then [[spoiler:"Dewynter Blues"]] will be reminiscent of [[spoiler:Viola's twin sister, Kiki, being killed in ''The Third'']].
[[WMG: Shaundi's sudden change in attitude will be explained in Saints Row IV]]
[[spoiler: Shaundi from SaintsRowTheThird meets her old self from SaintsRow2, so at the very least it will be touched upon.
[[WMG: Shaundi's 'nightmare/baggage' used against her by the Zin in IV will be [[spoiler:Gat's death.]]]]
A scene in the trailer showed Shaundi in an area similar to the Syndicate's plane, and it looked like [[spoiler:Gat's body]] was next to her, with a knife stuck in it. Plus, it would be a nice way to give her and Boss some more closure.
[[WMG: Alternatively, Gat will be referenced in some way in Saints Row IV]]
Because why not?
[[WMG: SaintsRowIV will be a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.]]
* Alien invasion. Ramping up the emotion. Reliving traumatic events. Atlas mechs. KeithDavid teaming up with who you can make Shepard. It's pretty much inevitable.
[[WMG: KeithDavid voices the Vice President, but it's actually...]]
* Julius. Three reasons why this is possible.
** Each game in the series has a Retcon from the previous one. In the second Boss can be female, and becomes nothing more than a sociopath. In the third game s/he tones this down a lot, Shaundi is completely different and the Saints are seen as celebrities that they wouldn't be if they were the way they acted in the second game. The fourth merges both endings from the third and seemingly completely ignores certain events. Speaking of...
** A conversation with Shaundi is censored when she mentions who MI6 helped the Saints kill. If it was Killbane he lived in the ending where Shaundi is saved. The Saints may have killed him later but this has yet to be confirmed.
** The secret mission where Boss kills Julius is never brought up. If Boss never did seek revenge then having mellowed out on being a psychotic asshole s/he may have sought out the old gang leader in a role reversal. Keep in mind a moral choice at the beginning of the game is to either work on ending world hunger or cancer, perhaps the most heroic thing Boss has ever done. If s/he's done that then maybe Boss and Julius have made amends, especially if Troy and Gat seem to had done so.
*** This part, at least, appears to be {{Jossed}}. KeithDavid is playing [[AsHimself Vice President Keith David]].
[[WMG: "Keith David" is actually Julius impersonating Keith David, and will pull a FaceHeelTurn.]]
* This seems like exactly the sort of meta twist this series would pull off. Perhaps Julius survived getting shot by the Boss through the interference of the aliens, and considers Earth getting enslaved by space aliens to be better than letting [[SociopathicHero the Boss]] run the free world.
** Related to the above, maybe he'll turn out to be the real BigBad of the game. You'll end up killing Zinyak in an anticlimactic fashion partway through the game, like [[spoiler: Phillipe Loren]] in Saints Row 3.
[[WMG: Shaundi will play an important part in the story.]]
* No shit right? However like the third game you have to make choices. Well SaintsRowIV look to be going for more emotional punch. In the third game you had to choose whether to sacrifice her to kill Killbane. In the fourth there's two Shaundis. What if you could only save one and that determined to some extent the ending?
[[WMG: Kenzie will pull a FaceHeelTurn by joining the aliens.]]
She seems slightly more annoyed than usual with the President, and eagerly points out to Zinyak that she is smarter than everyone else, showing some of her ego. Would it be too much of a stretch for her to get so arrogant that she would ditch the Saints and join the Zin?
[[WMG: If the boss ever gets a canon LoveInterest, it's Kinzie.]]
Well, there must be a reason why she was the one specifically snogging the boss in one of the VideoGame/SaintsRowIV trailers. Not to mention the ShipTease in another trailer when she thinks the boss was saying she was beautiful (he was talking about a giant robot, but still). On top of that, one of the bosses in SaintsRowTheThird confesses love for her when she says she'll swipe the Daedalus's specs in the [[spoiler: Kill Killbane]] ending.
** The achievements suggest there will be numerous romance options in the game.
[[WMG: Dex will return in Saints Row IV.]]
In the gameplay video of the 1950's suburban scene Shaundi (as the Boss' housewife) mentions characters which include Dex. Plus with the Boss as President, Dex definitely would have something to say.
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** Yes.
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* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's status is still wide open. He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of going to Mars, [[spoiler:found the Zin.]]
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* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's [[spoiler:Killbane's status is still wide open. open.]] He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of going to Mars, [[spoiler:found the Zin.]]
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* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's status is still wide open. He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of Mars found going to Mars, [[spoiler:found the Zin.]]
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[[WMG: Killbane is responsible for [[bringing the Zin to Earth and will return as a supporting or even main antagonist.]]]]
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[[WMG: Killbane is responsible for [[bringing [[spoiler:bringing the Zin to Earth and will return as a supporting or even main antagonist.]]]]
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** Going into other universes is a possibility. Or maybe the Saints decide to join forces with Heaven to take over hell and rule it as their own (after beating the devil to death with phallic-shaped dildos).
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** Going into other universes is a possibility. Or maybe the Saints decide to join forces with Heaven to take over hell and rule it as their own (after beating the devil to death with phallic-shaped dildos).dildos).
[[WMG: Killbane is responsible for [[bringing the Zin to Earth and will return as a supporting or even main antagonist.]]]]
* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's status is still wide open. He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of Mars found the Zin.
[[WMG: Killbane is responsible for [[bringing the Zin to Earth and will return as a supporting or even main antagonist.]]]]
* Seeing as how they're going with the Save Shaundi ending from SRTT, Killbane's status is still wide open. He probably went into hiding then found himself living under saints rule again with the Boss becoming the President and esaped earth (as in Gangstas in Space) but instead of Mars found the Zin.
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** Going into other universes is a possibility. Or maybe the Saints decide to join forces with Heaven to take over hell and rule it as their own (after beating the devil to death with phallic-shaped dildos).
** Going into other universes is a possibility. Or maybe the Saints decide to join forces with Heaven to take over hell and rule it as their own (after beating the devil to death with phallic-shaped dildos).
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Because if this really is the grand finale of the Saints Row franchise, what better way to wrap things up then with the Boss [[spoiler: becoming the ultimate badass/ruler of the known universe]]?
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Because if this really is the grand finale of the Saints Row franchise, what better way to wrap things up then with the Boss [[spoiler: becoming the ultimate badass/ruler of the known universe]]?universe]]?
* And then what? For the sequel they take over all the universes? Are they going to fight BioshockInfinite?
* And then what? For the sequel they take over all the universes? Are they going to fight BioshockInfinite?
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[[WMG: The game will end with [[spoiler: the Saints defeating the Zin, stealing their technology, and taking over the galaxy/universe]]]]
Because if this really is the grand finale of the Saints Row franchise, what better way to wrap things up then with the Boss [[spoiler: becoming the ultimate badass/ruler of the known universe]]?
Because if this really is the grand finale of the Saints Row franchise, what better way to wrap things up then with the Boss [[spoiler: becoming the ultimate badass/ruler of the known universe]]?
