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* He's doing a ScorchedEarth thing. If Palpatine ''did'' realize the implications of the sudden failure of his premonition power, he figured he'd do a DeathOrGloryAttack. And if he failed, he would take down the entire structure of the Empire with him. Indeed, the Expanded Universe uses this as an explanation for how the Empire fell so quickly once Palpatine was eliminated -- he set it up so that this would happen on the off chance he were defeated.

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* He's doing a ScorchedEarth TakingYouWithMe thing. If Palpatine ''did'' realize the implications of the sudden failure of his premonition power, he figured he'd do a DeathOrGloryAttack. And if he failed, he would take down the entire structure of the Empire with him. Indeed, the Expanded Universe uses this as an explanation for how the Empire fell so quickly once Palpatine was eliminated -- he set it up so that this would happen on the off chance he were defeated.
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Well considering that Vader is Dutch for father and Geluid is Dutch for son, it's likely that had Luke turned to the dark side as Darth Vader or Darth Sidious's apprentice, he would've been called Darth Geluid. Years later, in a non-canonical story for VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed, Starkiller fights Luke and eventually corrupts him to the Dark Side so the idea of Luke becoming a Sith isn't totally impossible.

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Well considering that Vader is Dutch for father and Geluid is Dutch for son, it's likely that had Luke turned to the dark side as Darth Vader or Darth Sidious's apprentice, he would've been called Darth Geluid. Years later, in a non-canonical story for VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed, VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed Ultimate Sith Edition, Lord Starkiller fights Luke and manages to force him to tap into the Dark Side's power, eventually corrupts corrupting him to the Dark Side so the idea of Luke becoming a Sith isn't totally impossible.into Lord Starkiller's new apprentice.
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Well considering that Vader is Dutch for father and Geluid is Dutch for son, it's likely that had Luke turned to the dark side as Darth Vader or Darth Sidious's apprentice, he would've been called Darth Geluid. Years later, in a non-canonical story for VideoGame/TheForcedUnleashed, Starkiller fights Luke and eventually corrupts him to the Dark Side so the idea of Luke becoming a Sith isn't totally impossible.

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Well considering that Vader is Dutch for father and Geluid is Dutch for son, it's likely that had Luke turned to the dark side as Darth Vader or Darth Sidious's apprentice, he would've been called Darth Geluid. Years later, in a non-canonical story for VideoGame/TheForcedUnleashed, VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed, Starkiller fights Luke and eventually corrupts him to the Dark Side so the idea of Luke becoming a Sith isn't totally impossible.

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During the Clone wars, the Jedi council made a clone of Anakin at some point (maybe they made clones of every Jedi). This clone became Darth Vader. Kenobi trained Vader while Yoda trained Anakin. Vader apparently killed Anakin at some point, and that’s the story Kenobi told Luke. After his death in “A New Hope”, however, Kenobi meets Vader in “Force Nirvana” (or where ever), and learns that Anakin was the murderer of Vader. He discusses this with Yoda, and they decide to either not tell Luke, or to delay telling him until after Luke becomes a Jedi.

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During the Clone wars, the Jedi council made a clone of Anakin at some point (maybe they made clones of every Jedi). This clone became Darth Vader. Kenobi trained Vader while Yoda trained Anakin. Vader apparently killed Anakin at some point, and that’s the story Kenobi told Luke. After his death in “A New Hope”, however, Kenobi meets Vader in “Force Nirvana” (or where ever), and learns that Anakin was the murderer of Vader. He discusses this with Yoda, and they decide to either not tell Luke, or to delay telling him until after Luke becomes a Jedi.Jedi.
[[WMG: What if Luke Skywalker turned to the dark side.]]
Well considering that Vader is Dutch for father and Geluid is Dutch for son, it's likely that had Luke turned to the dark side as Darth Vader or Darth Sidious's apprentice, he would've been called Darth Geluid. Years later, in a non-canonical story for VideoGame/TheForcedUnleashed, Starkiller fights Luke and eventually corrupts him to the Dark Side so the idea of Luke becoming a Sith isn't totally impossible.
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Think about it, Luke at this point is young and fresh and possibly the most powerful (or at least has the most potential) Force user alive in the Galaxy at that point. Vader is never going to get better because he's hindered by his injuries and cybernetics and is aging up. When Luke threw his lightsaber away and said he'd never turn to the Dark Side, Palpatine wouldn't have just shrugged and said "well I tried" and throw away his chance to have Luke as his apprentice. So he moves on to plan B - torture Luke with unimaginable agony and make him ''fear'' he's going to die. He just has to inflict so much pain on Luke that eventually Luke will accept to do anything to make the pain stop - perhaps kill his own father and turn to the Dark Side?

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Think about it, Luke at this point is young and fresh and possibly the most powerful (or at least has the most potential) Force user alive in the Galaxy at that point. Vader is never going to get better because he's hindered by his injuries and cybernetics and is aging up. When Luke threw his lightsaber away and said he'd never turn to the Dark Side, Palpatine wouldn't have just shrugged and said "well I tried" and throw away his chance to have Luke as his apprentice. So he moves on to plan B - torture Luke with unimaginable agony and make him ''fear'' he's going to die. He just has to inflict so much pain on Luke that eventually Luke will accept to do anything to make the pain stop - perhaps kill his own father and turn to the Dark Side?Side?
[[WMG: When Obi-Wan said that Vader killed Anakin in “A New Hope”, he was telling it straight.]]
(This theory rejects some of the canon of the prequels)
During the Clone wars, the Jedi council made a clone of Anakin at some point (maybe they made clones of every Jedi). This clone became Darth Vader. Kenobi trained Vader while Yoda trained Anakin. Vader apparently killed Anakin at some point, and that’s the story Kenobi told Luke. After his death in “A New Hope”, however, Kenobi meets Vader in “Force Nirvana” (or where ever), and learns that Anakin was the murderer of Vader. He discusses this with Yoda, and they decide to either not tell Luke, or to delay telling him until after Luke becomes a Jedi.
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Now, the two are not mutually exclusive; Luke and Leia don't ''know'' they're [[SurpriseIncest siblings]], and as far as they knew they were part of a genuine love triangle. And furthermore, given that they didn't grow up together, they might even be ''more'' inclined to be attracted to each other on account of their relation thanks to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic sexual attraction]]. But we need to remember that we're dealing with George frigging Lucas, who over time has proven himself famous for [[FlipFlopOfGod inconsistent claims as to his intentions]], [[LukeIAmYourFather shocking familiar revelations]], and [[RomanticPlotTumor complete inability to write a believable romance]]. It's more likely that Lucas wanted Han and Leia to get together, but realized that Luke and Leia would have been a more natural fit, and so resolved the love triangle by making two of the parties related. (And with Leia's line, "Somehow, I've always known," he can make the viewer look stupid for even ''thinking'' that Luke/Leia would have been better!)\\

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Now, the two are not mutually exclusive; Luke and Leia don't ''know'' they're [[SurpriseIncest siblings]], and as far as they knew they were part of a genuine love triangle. And furthermore, given that they didn't grow up together, they might even be ''more'' inclined to be attracted to each other on account of their relation thanks to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic sexual attraction]].UsefulNotes/GeneticSexualAttraction. But we need to remember that we're dealing with George frigging Lucas, who over time has proven himself famous for [[FlipFlopOfGod inconsistent claims as to his intentions]], [[LukeIAmYourFather shocking familiar revelations]], and [[RomanticPlotTumor complete inability to write a believable romance]]. It's more likely that Lucas wanted Han and Leia to get together, but realized that Luke and Leia would have been a more natural fit, and so resolved the love triangle by making two of the parties related. (And with Leia's line, "Somehow, I've always known," he can make the viewer look stupid for even ''thinking'' that Luke/Leia would have been better!)\\
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[[WMG: Force Ghosts can change appearances in general.]]
It's just that Anakin either looks like his Revenge of the Sith or the elderly Sebastian Shaw because when he returned to the light he still died as a scarred man in the Vader suit; so he picks AFormYouAreComfortableWith instead. Obi-Wan and Yoda don't have vanity issues or any BodyHorror hang-ups like Anakin so they keep the appearance they died in instead of, say, Obi-Wan becoming Ewan [=McGregor=] [[YoungerThanTheyLook or what a 57 year old would normally look like]].
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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.

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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.experiencing.

[[WMG: Palpatine wasn't actually going to kill Luke.]]
Think about it, Luke at this point is young and fresh and possibly the most powerful (or at least has the most potential) Force user alive in the Galaxy at that point. Vader is never going to get better because he's hindered by his injuries and cybernetics and is aging up. When Luke threw his lightsaber away and said he'd never turn to the Dark Side, Palpatine wouldn't have just shrugged and said "well I tried" and throw away his chance to have Luke as his apprentice. So he moves on to plan B - torture Luke with unimaginable agony and make him ''fear'' he's going to die. He just has to inflict so much pain on Luke that eventually Luke will accept to do anything to make the pain stop - perhaps kill his own father and turn to the Dark Side?

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[[WMG: R2-D2 mind-controlled the Death Star, wanting to destroy it more awesomely]]
This would explain why Luke, who was a great pilot, was on the strike team instead of piloting an X-wing. R2-D2 begged him not to, not wanting to destroy his own project in such a lame way as torpedoes, and probably intending to self-destruct it in an awesome way. Luke agreed, but the Rebels still went ahead with their own (generic) plan.
* So, R2-D2 '''really was''' played by [[Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids Pete]]!!!
* Eh, not quite, but it this theory does hold water. In ''Legends'', one of the IG-88 droids uploaded his conscience to the station, and was effectively ''the'' Death Star. In fact, if he wasn't in control, the superlaser would have actually missed during the Battle of Endor. This was all part of his plot for a Droid Revolution, which ended when he went down with the station.

[[WMG: The ending celebration montage takes place over several years]]
As someone pointed out on the "Headscratchers"-page, there's no way Coruscant - The Imperial Capital - would be in open celebration, [[NoOntologicalInertia only hours after the destruction]] of the Death Star and the death of the Emperor. Riots, stormtroopers everywhere, etc, seems more likely. The solution? The different scenes in the montage doesn't take place during the same time period. The shots of Luke and the others on the moon of Endor are obviously set only hours after the destruction of the Death Star, but the celebration on Coruscant could be months, or even years into the future.
* In the old Expanded Universe and the current, it is explained that the riot on Coruscant was just that: a riot. It was eventually put down, but Coruscant, in ''Legends'', had to wait two years until the New Republic could liberate it.

[[WMG: "Last of the Jedi will you be" is Yoda-speak for "You will be of the last Jedi"]]
So, more Jedi do exist, but there are so few of them. This might help reconcile all the Jedi that survived without making Yoda either a liar or misinformed.
* "I am the last surviving member of the Grand Council, not to mention the most senior. So if you do this, you'll still be a Jedi, unlike those other jerks who use the Force and play with lightsabers ''without'' my blessing." Bloody "FromACertainPointOfView". Alternately, replace the period in the original statement with a rhetorical question mark.
* But doesn't "a liar or misinformed" describe every last Jedi we see on-camera in the entire ''series''?
* I'm sorry, but this WMG is not very grammatically sound. You have the clause "last of the Jedi", and then separately from that the expression of Luke being, the proper word order being "you will be" and Yoda's way of speaking going "will you be". Were Yoda to say what you were suggesting, the way he'd put it is, "Of the last Jedi, you will be," or, "Of the last Jedi, will you be."
* I always thought that it was supposed to be a question "will you be the last of the Jedi?" makes perfect sense in that context.
* Except there ''are'' no more Jedi. Force users, sure, but not actual Jedi. The handful of Jedi who escaped the Imperial purge did so by ''not being Jedi anymore''. Some were corrupted to the Dark Side and became minions of the Emperor. Others just went underground and lived ordinary civilian lives.
* In a novel, Ben tells Luke he's not the last Jedi, but "the first of the new".
* Alternatively, (and I'm not to well-read in the EU, so take this with a grain of salt), if Yoda is indeed the last of the Jedi's Council and the Jedi Council is ruling body it seems to be, then Yoda's statement can be taken as a dissolution of the old Jedi Order, and a prescription for Luke to create a new one. My evidence for this is that Luke does found a new Jedi Order, on Yavin 4, rather than the ancient Jedi temple of the old Order on Coruscant. Moreover, Luke rejects the philosophy of the old Jedi Order: he redeems the Sith Lord Darth Vader, rather than killing him as the two members of the old Jedi Order would have/told him to/tried to do (I count leaving someone without limbs to die on the edge of a pyroclastic flow, after they've caught fire, as trying to kill them).
* As far as the movies are concerned, Yoda is telling the truth at that point. Between his death and Vader's redemption, then after Anakin's death, Luke is the only Jedi alive. On the note of the EU, while it supplements the movies, it is defined by the movies, the movies are not defined by it. If not including parts of EU make parts of the movies work better, it didn't happen.
** There's actually some debate when, in the Thrawn Trilogy, a supposedly survived Jedi shows himself. Luke supposes that Yoda could have been misinformed, and that this Jedi may have hidden himself so thoroughly that Yoda was unaware he'd survived. Leia points out that, when Yoda called Luke "The last of the Jedi," he hadn't been counting Vader or Palpatine, who were both still alive. The implication being that this surviving Jedi could quite likely be Dark [[spoiler: (which, indeed, he was, and an insane clone to boot.)]]
* If this is literally true, then that means any and all Jedi appearing in the canon ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' are effectively DoomedByCanon, so Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger [[spoiler: and Ahsoka Tano]] are going to die. Unless Yoda was just, you know, generalizing for dramatic effect, because, in the Legends expanded universe, it's definitely ''not'' true.
** The writers of ''Star Wars Rebels'' seem to be trying to weasel-word their way around this one. Both Kanan and Ahsoka disclaim being entitled to call themselves Jedi (Ahsoka even tells Kanan ''he'' is more entitled to the name than she is, as he simply had his training cut off by Order 66, while she actively quit the Order. Between that and bringing in other types of Force philosophies, they may be leaving a door open for Kanan and Ezra, at least, to survive, though her story connection to Anakin and his now knowing she's alive may mean Ahsoka's still doomed.
** Obi-Wan and Yoda were [[ConsummateLiar lying]] (excuse me, speaking from a "certain point of view") so much that there is no point in taking ''anything'' they said at face value! Obi-Wan lied extensively about Luke's father, and also pretended that ''only'' Luke ever had a chance of defeating Vader. Even though Obi-Wan himself had emerged victorious and unscathed from his battle with Vader, who in contrast was left as a DarkLordOnLifeSupport! Worse, Obi-Wan was only in his late-30's at the time. So there was ''never'' any ''real'' reason he could not have gone back for another try, especially now that Vader would have been at a ''huge'' disadvantage in a fight! Instead Obi-Wan and Yoda ''both'' decided to lay low until they could dispatch Luke, a hastily-trained apprentice in his early-20's with ''no'' experience in fighting Sith to take on '''both''' Vader ''and'' the Emperor! Unfortunately, due to the prequels and ''Rebels'', both Jedi Masters come across as DirtyCoward[=s=] who simply didn't want to have to face the Sith again themselves.
** More charitably, they could simply have been wrong. Despite what a lot of EU material claimed, PsychicRadar was never shown in the films as enabling anybody to pinpoint a Force-user's location across long distances, or even sense their ''existence''. Vader failed to notice both Obi-Wan and Luke while he was on his Star Destroyer in orbit above Tatooine for example. The galaxy might actually have been filled with Jedi survivors that Yoda and Obi-Wan simply knew nothing about.
** Let's go back to the idea that Obi-Wan and/or Yoda could have taken on the Sith again. Putting aside the question of whether one of them or both of them should go, how are they going to get to them? Palpatine is bound to be well-protected in his palace on Coruscant (no way is he letting Yoda sneak in like he did last time) and is probably surrounded by guards and troops, security systems, you name it, ''and'' the whole planet is protected by the Imperial navy. So that's a non-starter right there. Vader is usually onboard the ''Executor'' or something, so he might be a little easier to get to. They could maybe sneak through the ship like Anakin and Obi-Wan did to rescue Palpatine in Episode III, but a Super Star Destroyer full of human soldiers is bound to be more difficult than a much smaller ship full of dumb droids. But even if they did get to Vader and/or Palpatine, then what? If they succeeded in killing them, they would have to fight their way out. If one or both of them died in the attempt, then there would be nobody to train Luke or any other potential Jedi, and the Jedi Order would be finished. As the last two living Jedi, ensuring the continuation of the Order is a lot more important in the long run than killing two Sith Lords. Their plan to train Anakin's children made a lot of sense since they had the potential to become as powerful or maybe even more powerful than Vader and Palpatine. The plan just didn't work out the way they expected because a) Obi-Wan had to sacrifice himself so Luke could escape the Death Star and b) Luke was an impulsive idiot and left Yoda before he was done his training.
*** Vader was very much a FrontlineGeneral and, as seen in both ''A New Hope'' and ''The Empire Strikes Back'', was more than willing to do ''extremely'' risky stuff like going out to fight in a TIE Fighter (in which he could be blown up just like anyone else) or leading troops into a Rebel base (which astonishingly did not have any booby traps left behind). It was also clearly shown in ''A New Hope'' that Vader would specifically order any troops to stay out of his way in the event that an opportunity for a rematch with Obi-Wan presented itself. His wounded pride would ''not'' allow him to hide behind defenses in that scenario. Luring him into a fight would actually be pretty easy. Palpatine would be harder, but Yoda managed to assault him in his office in ''Revenge of the Sith''. What is being forgotten here is that the Rebel Alliance existed by this point and would have been ''thrilled'' to have two of the Old Republic's most prominent Jedi-Generals among their ranks! The argument that Obi-Wan and Yoda were avoiding any confrontations because they might not survive them only reinforces the impression of cowardice. After all, they assumed the Luke would somehow manage to find his way into the Emperor's presence eventually and kill him.

[[WMG: Ewoks are eaters of their defeated enemies.]]
The Ewoks were completely ready to roast up Luke, Han, and Chewbacca for feast to honor their new god. While they get out of this unscathed, at the end there are quite a few Imperial helmets being used as drums, which makes you wonder what's the main course in the feast to celebrate their defeat of the Empire.
* During the celebration, I sure hope our heroes warned their Rebel allies to stick to the salad.
* This raises the question: are we talking already dead ones or live ones? 'Cause the Rebels took at ''least'' fifteen guys prisoner when they finally took the shield generator. I just can't see the Rebels murdering prisoners. So I think they could've given the Ewoks the numerous already killed Imperials, but I doubt they'd turn over the ten to fifteen guys they caught outside the generator.
** Quite frankly, there's probably quite enough already-dead troops to satiate their appetites. Previously they were only going to eat Luke, Han, Chewie... and R2-D2? (Good luck to them if they'd tried!)
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' adds a little weight to this. You can recruit an Ewok mercenary named Treek, and Treek admits she sees no problem with eating a defeated (sentient) enemy, even admitting she would like to "try" roasted Rodian sometime. The way she and her people see it, Nature was nice enough to put meat in their traps, and it would be rude not to tuck in.

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[[WMG: R2-D2 mind-controlled the Death Star, wanting to destroy it more awesomely]]
This would explain why Luke, who was a great pilot, was on the strike team instead of piloting an X-wing. R2-D2 begged him not to, not wanting to destroy his own project in such a lame way as torpedoes, and probably intending to self-destruct it in an awesome way. Luke agreed, but the Rebels still went ahead with their own (generic) plan.
* So, R2-D2 '''really was''' played by [[Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids Pete]]!!!
* Eh, not quite, but it this theory does hold water. In ''Legends'', one of the IG-88 droids uploaded his conscience to the station, and was effectively ''the'' Death Star. In fact, if he wasn't in control, the superlaser would have actually missed during the Battle of Endor. This was all part of his plot for a Droid Revolution, which ended when he went down with the station.

[[WMG: The ending celebration montage takes place over several years]]
As someone pointed out on the "Headscratchers"-page, there's no way Coruscant - The Imperial Capital - would be in open celebration, [[NoOntologicalInertia only hours after the destruction]] of the Death Star and the death of the Emperor. Riots, stormtroopers everywhere, etc, seems more likely. The solution? The different scenes in the montage doesn't take place during the same time period. The shots of Luke and the others on the moon of Endor are obviously set only hours after the destruction of the Death Star, but the celebration on Coruscant could be months, or even years into the future.
* In the old Expanded Universe and the current, it is explained that the riot on Coruscant was just that: a riot. It was eventually put down, but Coruscant, in ''Legends'', had to wait two years until the New Republic could liberate it.

[[WMG: "Last of the Jedi will you be" is Yoda-speak for "You will be of the last Jedi"]]
So, more Jedi do exist, but there are so few of them. This might help reconcile all the Jedi that survived without making Yoda either a liar or misinformed.
* "I am the last surviving member of the Grand Council, not to mention the most senior. So if you do this, you'll still be a Jedi, unlike those other jerks who use the Force and play with lightsabers ''without'' my blessing." Bloody "FromACertainPointOfView". Alternately, replace the period in the original statement with a rhetorical question mark.
* But doesn't "a liar or misinformed" describe every last Jedi we see on-camera in the entire ''series''?
* I'm sorry, but this WMG is not very grammatically sound. You have the clause "last of the Jedi", and then separately from that the expression of Luke being, the proper word order being "you will be" and Yoda's way of speaking going "will you be". Were Yoda to say what you were suggesting, the way he'd put it is, "Of the last Jedi, you will be," or, "Of the last Jedi, will you be."
* I always thought that it was supposed to be a question "will you be the last of the Jedi?" makes perfect sense in that context.
* Except there ''are'' no more Jedi. Force users, sure, but not actual Jedi. The handful of Jedi who escaped the Imperial purge did so by ''not being Jedi anymore''. Some were corrupted to the Dark Side and became minions of the Emperor. Others just went underground and lived ordinary civilian lives.
* In a novel, Ben tells Luke he's not the last Jedi, but "the first of the new".
* Alternatively, (and I'm not to well-read in the EU, so take this with a grain of salt), if Yoda is indeed the last of the Jedi's Council and the Jedi Council is ruling body it seems to be, then Yoda's statement can be taken as a dissolution of the old Jedi Order, and a prescription for Luke to create a new one. My evidence for this is that Luke does found a new Jedi Order, on Yavin 4, rather than the ancient Jedi temple of the old Order on Coruscant. Moreover, Luke rejects the philosophy of the old Jedi Order: he redeems the Sith Lord Darth Vader, rather than killing him as the two members of the old Jedi Order would have/told him to/tried to do (I count leaving someone without limbs to die on the edge of a pyroclastic flow, after they've caught fire, as trying to kill them).
* As far as the movies are concerned, Yoda is telling the truth at that point. Between his death and Vader's redemption, then after Anakin's death, Luke is the only Jedi alive. On the note of the EU, while it supplements the movies, it is defined by the movies, the movies are not defined by it. If not including parts of EU make parts of the movies work better, it didn't happen.
** There's actually some debate when, in the Thrawn Trilogy, a supposedly survived Jedi shows himself. Luke supposes that Yoda could have been misinformed, and that this Jedi may have hidden himself so thoroughly that Yoda was unaware he'd survived. Leia points out that, when Yoda called Luke "The last of the Jedi," he hadn't been counting Vader or Palpatine, who were both still alive. The implication being that this surviving Jedi could quite likely be Dark [[spoiler: (which, indeed, he was, and an insane clone to boot.)]]
* If this is literally true, then that means any and all Jedi appearing in the canon ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'' are effectively DoomedByCanon, so Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger [[spoiler: and Ahsoka Tano]] are going to die. Unless Yoda was just, you know, generalizing for dramatic effect, because, in the Legends expanded universe, it's definitely ''not'' true.
** The writers of ''Star Wars Rebels'' seem to be trying to weasel-word their way around this one. Both Kanan and Ahsoka disclaim being entitled to call themselves Jedi (Ahsoka even tells Kanan ''he'' is more entitled to the name than she is, as he simply had his training cut off by Order 66, while she actively quit the Order. Between that and bringing in other types of Force philosophies, they may be leaving a door open for Kanan and Ezra, at least, to survive, though her story connection to Anakin and his now knowing she's alive may mean Ahsoka's still doomed.
** Obi-Wan and Yoda were [[ConsummateLiar lying]] (excuse me, speaking from a "certain point of view") so much that there is no point in taking ''anything'' they said at face value! Obi-Wan lied extensively about Luke's father, and also pretended that ''only'' Luke ever had a chance of defeating Vader. Even though Obi-Wan himself had emerged victorious and unscathed from his battle with Vader, who in contrast was left as a DarkLordOnLifeSupport! Worse, Obi-Wan was only in his late-30's at the time. So there was ''never'' any ''real'' reason he could not have gone back for another try, especially now that Vader would have been at a ''huge'' disadvantage in a fight! Instead Obi-Wan and Yoda ''both'' decided to lay low until they could dispatch Luke, a hastily-trained apprentice in his early-20's with ''no'' experience in fighting Sith to take on '''both''' Vader ''and'' the Emperor! Unfortunately, due to the prequels and ''Rebels'', both Jedi Masters come across as DirtyCoward[=s=] who simply didn't want to have to face the Sith again themselves.
** More charitably, they could simply have been wrong. Despite what a lot of EU material claimed, PsychicRadar was never shown in the films as enabling anybody to pinpoint a Force-user's location across long distances, or even sense their ''existence''. Vader failed to notice both Obi-Wan and Luke while he was on his Star Destroyer in orbit above Tatooine for example. The galaxy might actually have been filled with Jedi survivors that Yoda and Obi-Wan simply knew nothing about.
** Let's go back to the idea that Obi-Wan and/or Yoda could have taken on the Sith again. Putting aside the question of whether one of them or both of them should go, how are they going to get to them? Palpatine is bound to be well-protected in his palace on Coruscant (no way is he letting Yoda sneak in like he did last time) and is probably surrounded by guards and troops, security systems, you name it, ''and'' the whole planet is protected by the Imperial navy. So that's a non-starter right there. Vader is usually onboard the ''Executor'' or something, so he might be a little easier to get to. They could maybe sneak through the ship like Anakin and Obi-Wan did to rescue Palpatine in Episode III, but a Super Star Destroyer full of human soldiers is bound to be more difficult than a much smaller ship full of dumb droids. But even if they did get to Vader and/or Palpatine, then what? If they succeeded in killing them, they would have to fight their way out. If one or both of them died in the attempt, then there would be nobody to train Luke or any other potential Jedi, and the Jedi Order would be finished. As the last two living Jedi, ensuring the continuation of the Order is a lot more important in the long run than killing two Sith Lords. Their plan to train Anakin's children made a lot of sense since they had the potential to become as powerful or maybe even more powerful than Vader and Palpatine. The plan just didn't work out the way they expected because a) Obi-Wan had to sacrifice himself so Luke could escape the Death Star and b) Luke was an impulsive idiot and left Yoda before he was done his training.
*** Vader was very much a FrontlineGeneral and, as seen in both ''A New Hope'' and ''The Empire Strikes Back'', was more than willing to do ''extremely'' risky stuff like going out to fight in a TIE Fighter (in which he could be blown up just like anyone else) or leading troops into a Rebel base (which astonishingly did not have any booby traps left behind). It was also clearly shown in ''A New Hope'' that Vader would specifically order any troops to stay out of his way in the event that an opportunity for a rematch with Obi-Wan presented itself. His wounded pride would ''not'' allow him to hide behind defenses in that scenario. Luring him into a fight would actually be pretty easy. Palpatine would be harder, but Yoda managed to assault him in his office in ''Revenge of the Sith''. What is being forgotten here is that the Rebel Alliance existed by this point and would have been ''thrilled'' to have two of the Old Republic's most prominent Jedi-Generals among their ranks! The argument that Obi-Wan and Yoda were avoiding any confrontations because they might not survive them only reinforces the impression of cowardice. After all, they assumed the Luke would somehow manage to find his way into the Emperor's presence eventually and kill him.

[[WMG: Ewoks are eaters of their defeated enemies.
awesomely.]]
This would explain why Luke, who was a great pilot, was on the strike team instead of piloting an X-wing -- R2-D2 begged him not to destroy it with something so mundane as a torpedo. He was able to convince Luke, but just never got around to asking the rest of the Rebels, hence why they went ahead with their original mundane plan. All this can be explained by two things:
* First, in ''Legends'', we see an IG-88 droid upload his conscience to the Death Star at this point and effectively control the entire thing -- he's the reason why the superlaser hits. He's trying to foment a [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters droid uprising]], which ended when the station exploded. This shows that it's certainly ''possible'' for R2 to control the entire Death Star, and it gives that sliver of room for an {{Epileptic Tree|s}} that R2 fought the IG-88 for control of the Death Star and eventually won.
* Second, it's ''exactly'' the kind of thing R2's [[Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids player Pete]] would do.

[[WMG:
The ending celebration montage takes place over several years.]]
The film shows a massive party on the Imperial capital Coruscant -- but there's no way they could have organized it only [[NoOntologicalInertia hours after the destruction]] of the Death Star and the death of the Emperor. After all, how could they have learned about it so quickly? It makes sense on Endor's moon, with Luke and company having been firsthand witnesses to everything, but not halfway across the Galaxy. And even once they ''did'' learn on Coruscant, why would they assume that this would have led to the collapse of the Empire? They'd need a couple of years to sort through the political fallout -- and there would still be some [[TheRemnant Imperial troops and officials]] on the planet whom they have to get rid of. The celebrations we see coincide with the formal announcement of the end of the Empire. Indeed, the EU describes a ''riot'' taking place on Coruscant once they hear about the Death Star's destruction, and Imperial troops had to put it down; in ''Legends'', it wasn't until two years after the Emperor's death that the New Republic could liberate it.

[[WMG: "Last of the Jedi will you be" is Yoda-speak for "You will be of the last Jedi".]]
In other words, Yoda is not saying that Luke will be the very last Jedi -- there will be others. And he's right -- not only in the Expanded Universe, but also in the Sequel Trilogy, there are a number of other Jedi wandering around. Even though the title of Episode VIII is ''Film/TheLastJedi'', Luke in that film explicitly says that he's ''not'' the "last Jedi".\\
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Indeed, this explanation makes more sense than the implication that Luke ''is'' the "last Jedi". Several EU works have had to jump through rhetorical hoops to disclaim the "Jedi" who appear chronologically after ''Return of the Jedi'' -- for example, in ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'', Ahsoka and Kanan profess to being unworthy of the title of "Jedi", and in ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' Luke encounters an apparent surviving Jedi and muses that Yoda might have been mistaken.\\
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Sure, it's entirely possible that Yoda was indeed wrong -- his premonitions aren't perfect. But more likely, he was correct [[MetaphoricallyTrue from a certain point of view]]. Luke isn't the "last Jedi" on a purely technical level, but he ''is'' the last to have been trained in the manner of the old Jedi Council. Luke's conception of the Force is very different from that of any Jedi before him, and the school of the Force he founds could easily be a totally new school -- neither Jedi nor Sith, but called "Jedi" for historical reasons. This is what Yoda is alluding to. If not this, he's alluding to a premonition of Vader's redemption and brief return to the Jedi way before his HeroicSacrifice.\\
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Admittedly, grammatically speaking there is no "of" in the sentence, but Yoda's {{strange syntax|Speaker}} doesn't necessarily require a straight rearrangement of every word therein.

[[WMG:
Ewoks [[EatingTheEnemy eat their defeated enemies]].]]
Indeed, they
were completely ready to roast up Luke, Han, and Chewbacca for a feast to honor their new god. While They probably also did this to a few of the fallen Imperial soldiers, hence why they get out of this unscathed, used their helmets as drums in the celebration at the end there of the film. And in ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'', you can recruit an Ewok mercenary named Treek, who admits to having no problem with eating a defeated sentient enemy and that she'd like to "try" roasted Rodian sometime.

[[WMG: The Ewoks
are quite a few Imperial helmets being used as drums, which makes you wonder what's the main course most badass race in the feast Galaxy.]]
Consider:
* They can take on enemies with far more advanced weapons, like [=AT-STs=] and blasters. Not only does it take guts, it takes cleverness. They set up huge suspended villages and effective traps in a short amount of time, demonstrating good planning and discipline. They're also very adaptable and unafraid of using unfamiliar technology.
* They appear
to celebrate live alongside a lot of big, nasty predators, even by human standards -- and they've supplanted them to become the apex predator on their defeat of the Empire.
* During the celebration, I sure hope our heroes warned their Rebel allies to stick to the salad.
* This raises the question: are we talking already dead ones or live ones? 'Cause the Rebels took at ''least'' fifteen guys prisoner when they finally took the shield generator. I just can't see the Rebels murdering prisoners. So I think they could've given the Ewoks the numerous already killed Imperials, but I doubt they'd turn over the ten to fifteen guys they caught outside the generator.
** Quite frankly, there's probably quite enough already-dead troops to satiate their appetites. Previously they were only going to eat Luke, Han, Chewie... and R2-D2? (Good luck to them if they'd tried!)
homeworld. Those vicious little teddy bears HadToBeSharp.
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' adds a little weight to this. You can recruit shows us Treek, an Ewok mercenary named Treek, and Treek admits she sees no problem who was so badass that ''Mandalorian Clan Ordo'' considered her worthy to fight with eating a defeated (sentient) enemy, even admitting she would like them. She can push aside humanoids twice her size, killed the crew of the crashed ship to "try" roasted Rodian sometime. The way she get off Endor, and her people see it, Nature was nice enough to put meat in has an array of hunting tools that might be primitive, but also vicious and effective. And that's just one example; the Heroes of Yavin recruited a small army of Treeks and handed the Imps their traps, asses.
* They appear to be one of the few groups in the Galaxy to [[NoOSHACompliance consistently
and it would be rude effectively implement railings]].
The Galaxy is lucky that they're
not to tuck in.
particularly interested in power -- they could set up their own empire if they really wanted.

[[WMG: The Ewoks are the Furlings of ''Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}}'' fame.]]
Given the intelligence and skill they show throughout the film, including their giant hanging villages and their victory over a much more technologically advanced Imperial force, they could easily have been one of the four races if they had a stargate.



If you watch the battle among Luke, Vader, and Palpatine in the second half of the movie, you come to realize that Luke would have turned to the Dark Side instantly if Palpatine had just shut his mouth. This could have been ObfuscatingStupidity and the VillainBall that he was carrying for the entire movie, or it could be that he had had enough of the Dark Side and wanted to die. (Then again, given how he spends the entire EU trying to come back, it was probably just the VillainBall.)
* Or he's just [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide lost it]]. He's not exactly very bright in that movie.
* I reject this for the same reason I reject the theory that he threw his fight with Windu: he's just plain too proud. A master manipulator like him could easily find a way to accomplish the same things without having to suffer humiliation or harm, and he would never allow himself to end up on the short end of the stick to the pitiful likes of...well, anyone, if there's anything at all he can do about it.
** Ah, but Palpatine is a master actor and ManipulativeBastard! For example, how long did he pretend to be nothing more than a mere senator from an outlying system? Remember how deferentially he behaved towards Padme, who was (in theory) his boss? Palpatine had ''no'' problem whatsoever with feigning weakness. Here it would be reversed - he might have been feigning ''strength''! Aged and with his body ravaged by the Dark Side (remember that he walked with a cane in front of ''thousands'' of troops), he might have come to accept that he didn't have much longer and, as a Sith Apprentice, Vader had just never lived up to expectations. So Palpatine might have suddenly felt a sense of urgency to get a better apprentice (i.e. Luke, who had the same potential as his father) and was impatient about how much of a pain Luke was proving to be as compared to the easily-manipulated Anakin. Remember, Anakin killed Count Dooku purely on Palpatine's say so, when he was otherwise not inclined to do it. Palpatine likely thought that Luke would do the same if he just chimed in with some encouragement.
* Palpatine didn't want Luke to fall to the dark side. He wanted Luke to fall to the dark side and ''become his apprentice''. The last fight with Vader started with Luke attacking Palpatine and Vader trying to stop him. In other words, Luke is fighting Vader ''in defiance'' of Palpatine. If Palpatine said nothing and let Luke kill Vader, then Luke is killing Vader (Palpatine's apprentice) ''in defiance'' of Palpatine. He may have fallen, but he would have become a Dark Jedi ''rival'' to Palpatine. Even if Palpatine was certain that he was more than powerful enough to destroy Luke in that situation, in the end he would have no apprentice. So he ''had'' to interrupt when he did. It was a test of Luke's loyalty. Now, if Luke kills Vader, ''right after Palpatine tells him to'', then that act would be one of obedience and submission to Palpatine. Only then would Palpatine be sure that Luke is falling ''and'' becoming his loyal apprentice. If Luke remains defiant and refuses to kill Vader, then Palpatine would kill Luke, and he gets to keep Vader alive as his apprentice. There was nothing, nothing, stupid about Palpatine's actions and words there. It was all deliberate and consistent with his plans to that point. His only mistake was not anticipating that Vader would turn on him for Luke's sake. His arrogance was in his assumption that his manipulation and breaking of Anakin Skywalker was complete and irreversible.
** Oooh, great point.
** Nah I think Palpatine was really arrogant. It seems that perhaps to service the force he wishes to get Luke to give into his hatred, get more powerful, and in his anger turn to the dark side. Which might have had a chance of working if the Emperor could've kept his gob shut for five seconds.
*** In Palpatine's defense, [[AwesomeEgo he has reason to be arrogant]]: the guy has had everything go swimmingly for him for the past 36 years, and unlike most [[GalacticConqueror worlds-ruling tyrants]] did it through [[MagnificentBastard unmitigated skill]] instead of [[PhysicalGod sheer power.]] If that doesn't cause a tyrant to lapse into SmugSnake territory, I don't know what would.
*** Palpatine had been using the Force to see the future since way before the Phantom Menace. The point of the Battle of Endor was never to destroy the Alliance, but to turn Luke to the Dark Side; the Rebels were a powerful propaganda tool for the Empire(kinda like Al Qaida and Hamas are in our world). He followed the path the visions showed him right up until Luke refused to kill Vader, which he hadn't seen. Enraged that decades of planning hadn't gone the way he'd forseen, Palpatine decided to have an electric tantrum on Luke; but, like Voldemort, the Emperor didn't understand how love really worked...

to:

If you watch He's stupidly powerful -- how could he have lost the entire Empire so easily? There are a number of theories:
* He did it on purpose. It's part of his overall plan, eventually enacted in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker''. He gives the illusion of his defeat to ensure that the right people are in charge for when he ''really'' sets his plan into motion. Adherents of this theory consider Palpatine to be TheChessmaster, perfectly willing to [[ObfuscatingStupidity feign stupidity and weakness]] to get what he wants. They'll also point to his fight with Mace Windu in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' and claim that he ''also'' threw it, allowing him to frame
the battle among Luke, Vader, as an assassination attempt and attain political support for the establishment of the Empire.
* He just [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide lost it]]. He does ''quite'' a few stupid things in ''Return of the Jedi'', especially his total dismissal of Luke's obvious attempts to turn Vader away from the Dark Side. He's so powerful that he's [[SmugSnake supremely arrogant]], utterly convinced that he can turn ''anyone'' to the Dark Side. He furthers his arrogance by essentially grooming Vader's replacement right in front of him (although the Sith are practically defined by their ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, so this shouldn't have surprised Vader all that much).
* He's betrayed by his premonitions for the first time. He became a GalacticConqueror in part by being able to predict everyone's actions and [[ManipulativeBastard using it to his advantage]]. But Vader can predict Luke's refusal to turn to the Dark Side, while he himself cannot. This makes him cocky -- and why wouldn't he be? It's always worked for him before. Palpatine, being TheChessmaster that he is, isn't going to rely ''solely'' on his premonitions. He knows that it's not enough for Luke to turn to the Dark Side -- he'd have to kill his own father and take his place,
and Palpatine in isn't going to bank on that happening. Worst case scenario, Palpatine just kills Luke for his refusal to do that and sticks with Vader. But Palpatine got cocky and decided to torture Luke before killing him, and then comes the second half of the movie, you come one thing he ''really'' didn't predict: Vader coming to Luke's defense and committing a HeroicSacrifice.
* He's doing a ScorchedEarth thing. If Palpatine ''did''
realize that Luke the implications of the sudden failure of his premonition power, he figured he'd do a DeathOrGloryAttack. And if he failed, he would take down the entire structure of the Empire with him. Indeed, the Expanded Universe uses this as an explanation for how the Empire fell so quickly once Palpatine was eliminated -- he set it up so that this would happen on the off chance he were defeated.
* He was never that powerful to begin with! He doesn't do a lot of fighting, preferring to manipulate people into doing his bidding. And most of the people he's trying to manipulate are pretty WeakWilled -- in the prequels, he mostly works on the fragile Anakin, the feckless and rigid Jedi Council, and the ambitious yet bumbling politicians in the Senate. He's never tried to turn someone as strong-willed as Luke, who for all the temptation never comes particularly close to turning to the Dark Side. He gets angry, throws a tantrum, tries to torture Luke, triggers Vader's anger, and puts up almost ''no'' defense against Vader when he attacks.

[[WMG: Palpatine ''did'' see Vader's betrayal coming, but not as soon as it did.]]
What else would he expect? The Sith
have a tradition of [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder apprentices murdering their masters and taking over]]. He either got his premonitions wrong, or he simply got cocky and ''assumed'' it would happen once Vader was totally turned to the Dark Side instantly if Side. Vader still had good left in him, and Palpatine had just shut his mouth. This could sense that as well as Luke; Palpatine figured that as long as Vader wasn't completely turned, he'd have been ObfuscatingStupidity no reason to go "full Sith" and stab him in the VillainBall that back. Whether because EvilCannotComprehendGood, or whether because he was carrying for the entire movie, or it could be that he had had enough DrunkOnTheDarkSide, Palpatine did not expect Luke to turn ''Vader'' to his side and Vader's betrayal to come as a result of that.

[[WMG: Striking down Palpatine wouldn't have turned Luke to
the Dark Side on its own.]]
Palpatine is well aware of this. As far as he sees it, Luke would cement himself as a Rebel hero as the one who killed the Emperor. Palpatine has to maneuver into a situation where Luke killing him would be cowardly rather than heroic, hence why he insists that Luke take him down while he's defenseless. Luke would genuinely feel so guilty about it that he'd ''think'' he'd fallen to the Dark Side -- which will become a SelfFulfillingProphecy. And if Luke ''does'' stay true to his guns
and wanted refuses to die. (Then again, given how slay Palpatine in that scenario, Palpatine survives to continue his reign of terror, so [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose he spends wins either way]]. Except he didn't count on Vader's intervention.

[[WMG: Palpatine lied about being unarmed.]]
After all, he always had
the entire EU trying ability to come back, it was use Force lightning. He may also have been thinking of repeating his stunt from ''Revenge of the Sith'', in which he claims to be unarmed but suddenly pulls out a lightsaber, but by ''Return of the Jedi'' he's probably pretty old and doesn't exactly want to do hand-to-hand combat. (That, and it's just the VillainBall.more ''fun'' to torture Luke with lightning.)
* Or he's just [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide lost it]]. He's not exactly very bright in that movie.
* I reject this for the same reason I reject the theory that he threw his fight with Windu: he's just plain too proud. A master manipulator like him could easily find a way to accomplish the same things without having to suffer humiliation or harm, and he would never allow himself to end up on the short end of the stick to the pitiful likes of...well, anyone, if there's anything at all he can do about it.
** Ah, but Palpatine is a master actor and ManipulativeBastard! For example, how long did he pretend to be nothing more than a mere senator from an outlying system? Remember how deferentially he behaved towards Padme, who was (in theory) his boss? Palpatine had ''no'' problem whatsoever with feigning weakness. Here it would be reversed - he might have been feigning ''strength''! Aged and with his body ravaged by the Dark Side (remember that he walked with a cane in front of ''thousands'' of troops), he might have come to accept that he didn't have much longer and, as a Sith Apprentice, Vader had just never lived up to expectations. So Palpatine might have suddenly felt a sense of urgency to get a better apprentice (i.e. Luke, who had the same potential as his father) and was impatient about how much of a pain Luke was proving to be as compared to the easily-manipulated Anakin. Remember, Anakin killed Count Dooku purely on Palpatine's say so, when he was otherwise not inclined to do it. Palpatine likely thought that Luke would do the same if he just chimed in with some encouragement.
* Palpatine didn't want Luke to fall to the dark side. He wanted Luke to fall to the dark side and ''become his apprentice''. The last fight with Vader started with Luke attacking Palpatine and Vader trying to stop him. In other words, Luke is fighting Vader ''in defiance'' of Palpatine. If Palpatine said nothing and let Luke kill Vader, then Luke is killing Vader (Palpatine's apprentice) ''in defiance'' of Palpatine. He may have fallen, but he would have become a Dark Jedi ''rival'' to Palpatine. Even if Palpatine was certain that he was more than powerful enough to destroy Luke in that situation, in the end he would have no apprentice. So he ''had'' to interrupt when he did. It was a test of Luke's loyalty. Now, if Luke kills Vader, ''right after Palpatine tells him to'', then that act would be one of obedience and submission to Palpatine. Only then would Palpatine be sure that Luke is falling ''and'' becoming his loyal apprentice. If Luke remains defiant and refuses to kill Vader, then Palpatine would kill Luke, and he gets to keep Vader alive as his apprentice. There was nothing, nothing, stupid about Palpatine's actions and words there. It was all deliberate and consistent with his plans to that point. His only mistake was not anticipating that Vader would turn on him for Luke's sake. His arrogance was in his assumption that his manipulation and breaking of Anakin Skywalker was complete and irreversible.
** Oooh, great point.
** Nah I think Palpatine was really arrogant. It seems that perhaps to service the force he wishes to get Luke to give into his hatred, get more powerful, and in his anger turn to the dark side. Which might have had a chance of working if the Emperor could've kept his gob shut for five seconds.
*** In Palpatine's defense, [[AwesomeEgo he has reason to be arrogant]]: the guy has had everything go swimmingly for him for the past 36 years, and unlike most [[GalacticConqueror worlds-ruling tyrants]] did it through [[MagnificentBastard unmitigated skill]] instead of [[PhysicalGod sheer power.]] If that doesn't cause a tyrant to lapse into SmugSnake territory, I don't know what would.
*** Palpatine had been using the Force to see the future since way before the Phantom Menace. The point of the Battle of Endor was never to destroy the Alliance, but to turn Luke to the Dark Side; the Rebels were a powerful propaganda tool for the Empire(kinda like Al Qaida and Hamas are in our world). He followed the path the visions showed him right up until Luke refused to kill Vader, which he hadn't seen. Enraged that decades of planning hadn't gone the way he'd forseen, Palpatine decided to have an electric tantrum on Luke; but, like Voldemort, the Emperor didn't understand how love really worked...



Back in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', we saw a gigantic worm-like creature which tried to eat things and had a breathable atmosphere inside it, in an asteroid field that looked kind of like the results of the destruction of Alderaan (so it might originally have been on a planet). In ''Return of the Jedi'', we see a smaller worm-like creature that tries to eat things; it was on a planet with a breathable atmosphere, no vegetable life, and a lot of ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' references. In ''Dune'', the sandworms provided the atmosphere of Arrakis, and the atmosphere of Tatooine has to come from ''somewhere''.

Also consider that the Galaxy Far, Far Away is home to a very large number of very nasty organizations, all of which are eager to inflict the most horrible deaths they can on their enemies, but only one of them, and evidently not one that's exactly on the cutting edge of things like scientific knowledge and military equipment, uses the Sarlacc for executions.

Thus, the Sarlacc is a larval form of a space slug, and space slugs are terraformers originally created by the [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Rakata]] or one of the other species of {{Precursors}} that the Galaxy Far, Far Away is positively swimming in. Like a space slug, it eats anything that gets close, but it digests things over a normal, less-than-a-thousand-years timeframe -- it needs the biological molecules. (It can probably also handle metals and use those for structural purposes as well; it must get its energy from an internal cold-fusion reactor or thereabouts, as neither the Sarlacc nor the space slug had a diet that would provide enough energy for its extreme activity level.)

Ask any xenobiologist, and he can tell you as much -- and can probably give you a DNA sample and tell you where other creatures of the species are located, how long they take to mature, how long it takes a mature one to transform a desert wasteland into a comfortably habitable planet, and whether they die after the end of their Roaring Rampage of Terraforming or whether you have to kill them.

Jabba, of course, was too clever for the xenobiologists and asked the local Jawas instead, explaining why he's the only person in the galaxy who throws people into the Sarlacc as opposed to inflicting some other, more conventional, form of horrible death.

Its form as depicted in the original version of ''Return of the Jedi'' is a very "newly-hatched" stage, where the characteristic space-slug mouth is still developing; its form as of the Special Edition (which was what Lucas wanted to do to begin with, although he didn't have the budget) is a later-stage juvenile space slug.

[[WMG: The Ewoks are the most bad-ass race in the Galaxy.]]
They're willing to take on enemies with far more advanced weapons, like AT-STs and blasters, which takes guts. They are able to create huge suspended villages and set up effective traps in a short amount of time, which shows good planning and discipline. They aren't afraid to use unfamiliar technology, which makes them adaptable. And finally, there appears to be thousands of the little buggers, which could indicate rapid breeding. If they ever get off planet, they might start their own empire.
* Take note that they do appear to be the only species in the entire galaxy that understands the concept (and has the wherewithal to build) railings.
** But the gantry that Luke and Vader duel on in ESB has a railing (Vader even cuts through it at multiple points)!
* Well, Sidious did describe Ewoks as if "[[Series/StudioC Chuck Norris walked into Build-A-Bear and created a super army!"]]
* As we see in the Ewok movies and cartoon series, Endor has a lot of big nasty predators. Big by ''human'' standards. Those vicious little teddy bears HadToBeSharp and became apex predators of their homeworld.
* ''{{VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic}}'' players get a closer look at Ewok badassery via Treek. She can push aside humanoids twice her size, has an array of primitive, but vicious and effective, tools for hunting, killed the crew of the crashed ship to get off Endor, and was so badass that ''Mandalorian Clan Ordo'' decided she was worthy to fight with them. And that's just one Ewok hunter. The Heroes of Yavin recruited a small army of Treeks and handed the Imps their asses.

[[WMG: The Sarlacc is actually an EldritchAbomination that serves as a portal to Hell, and the people telling otherwise were making the whole thing up]]
Hence why the people who falls in there will be in great pain, for a thousand years, if not eternity. On the other hand, it's not just a thousand-years digestion, it [[FateWorseThanDeath could be worse]]....
* Indeed. [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Could be stabbed.]]

[[WMG: The Ewoks are the Furlings of Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}} fame.]]
Think about it. The Ewoks created huge villages suspended from the trees, and fended off a troop of Imperial forces, armed with slingshots and rocks. A species with that much intelligence and skill could have easily been one of the four races if they had a stargate.
* This is now my personal canon.

[[WMG: Simply Striking Down Palpatine Wouldn't Have Turned Luke to the Dark Side...]]
...and Palpatine is ''fully'' aware of that. Killing Palpatine would've effectively been something heroic, it would have saved the lives of millions, so it was only justified. However, Palpatine is a MagnificentBastard, after all. Once he directly points out that he's defenceless ([[BlatantLies except for the electricity Luke probably doesn't know about]]) ''then'' it stops being outright heroric. Palpatine then messes with Luke's head. If Luke did strike Palpatine down, he would've gone to the Dark Side because he ''believed'' he'd fallen to the Dark Side, due to misplaced guilt and all that.

Imagine if Luke wasn't so {{lawful|Good}} and was instead an AntiHero, and simply went "ShutUpHannibal" and Force-pulled his lightsaber and chopped him down then and there. Would that really have dragged him to the dark side on ''its own''?
* Presumably if he tried at that point, Vader would have intervened, and the fight between them would have just started earlier (and if Vader didn't intervene in time, Palpatine surely could have Force-pushed or lightninged Luke to defend himself). Palpatine's plan was probably to provoke Luke into aggression, get him to start a fight, and let it snowball from there.

And of course, by making it seem like such a wrong thing to do, Palpatine pretty much guaranteed that Luke wouldn't kill him. Fortunately, Vader intervened and killed the Emperor.

[[WMG: Anakin brought balance to the force by killing Palpatine]]
The Sith is not what was causing the imbalance, it was Palpatine. So, with the death of Palpatine, the Force was brought into balance.
** Actually it was the Sith. Basically, the idea behind the prophecy is that the Sith and the Dark Side is a cancer upon the Force. A balance isn't an equal amount of Sith and Jedi, it is the complete absence of the Sith. Anakin killed his master and in so doing died himself. He brought balance to the force yet was at the same time one of the things unbalancing it since he was a Sith, as there are only two true Sith at any given time, of which Palpatine was the master and Anakin the apprentice. His self-sacrifice killed his master and himself and brought balance. The prophecy wasn't misread, it simply came at a time when it wasn't expected.
*** Well of course the Sith are causing the imbalance: half of what they do is [[ImmortalityImmorality abusing life for their own benefit]], and the Force is basically TheLifestream. The Force doesn't like people siphoning it off like that.
*** This troper always interpreted the prophecy differently. From what we know of the prequels, there were literally thousands and thousands of Jedi, whose vast presence in the Force was deeply rooted in the light side, and in a perfectly balanced system, especially in a duality like the Force, one side cannot exceed the other in volume and strength. The Jedi were the Sith, but on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum. The only difference was their values. Remember Obi-Wan's line in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''? "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." That ''itself'' is an absolute, but from the other side of the coin. That's why the Jedi ''had'' to die, because the Force was not perfectly balanced under them either. And recall Kreia's line from ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': "For every Jedi slain, for every Sith slain, another will arise." This is a cycle of light and dark struggling to overpower one another that has been raging for ''millennia'' and will continue to do so until the universe eventually just burns itself out. Therefore, bringing balance to the Force is nothing unique. It's just part of the overall natural design in the ''Star Wars'' universe. It's the system correcting itself for an overflow it can't handle. If the Jedi truly wish to bring the Force into perfect balance, they need to be less rigid and inflexible in some of their ideals, and try to learn to incorporate the usually hateful aspects of the dark side into their teachings in a positive way, as we've seen many Force practitioners accomplish this successfully throughout the ''Star Wars'' mythos.
** Or, it was balanced because Palpatine was the last '''Jedi or Sith''' in the galaxy. Remember, Yoda told Luke he wouldn't be a Jedi unless he killed Vader, and he didn't. The Jedi were the action, and the Sith were the equal and opposite reaction. Both authorities are now eliminated.
*** Nope, Yoda said he wouldn't be Jedi unless he ''confronted'' Vader, which he did. Plus Luke actually says "I am a Jedi."
* Palpatine wasn't the last Jedi or Sith. Luke was. He became a full Jedi when he defeated Vader and turned him to the light side. That meant Palpatine was the only Sith left, and Vader killed him. No more Sith = balance was restored.

* Alternatively, Darth Vader did bring balance to the Force...in Episode III. Vader(under Palpatine's order's but still) destroys the Jedi Order. Eventually, we see in the movies only two surviving, Obi-wan and Yoda. After Obi-wan dies, Luke becomes a Jedi, so that there only two Jedi left...a master and a apprentice, just like the Sith. 2 = 2, the light side of the Force is balanced with the dark side of the Force.
** While there are others besides Vader who kill off the Jedi over the gap between episodes III and IV, such as clone troopers, stormtroopers, bounty hunters, etc, they aren't killing the Jedi. They're killing individuals. The Sith are individuals. The Jedi, conversely are an Order, a group, a community. Thus it is Vader, by attacking the Jedi temple, killing off the younglings (and thus the next generation of Jedi), and preventing more Jedi from being brought up, is the one who actually kills of the Jedi.

[[WMG: Palpatine lied about being unarmed]]
In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', when Mace and several other Jedi came up to his office to arrest him, he had his lightsaber pop out of some kind of springloaded sleeve holster and went on the attack. It would hardly be a stretch of the imagination for him to still use that lightsaber and its rig, since he would be able to defend himself if a would-be assassin defeated his elite bodyguards (Vader can't be at his side all the time, you know). Why he didn't whip it out and use it is the real puzzler though...
* Why would he? Vader was there and Luke fighting Vader was key to the "turn him to the Dark Side" plan. When Vader grabbed him he didn't really have time to grab his saber and it wouldn't have done much good anyway.
* He might not even have bothered to use his saber anymore since he hadn't had to duel anyone for over twenty years. He seems to prefer to rely on Force powers instead of swordfighting if he can, like when he fought Yoda and started tearing down parts of the arena and throwing them at him. His lightning is more than enough to defend himself.
* Agreed. He may or may not have had it on him; if not, he probably had it stored away and might have been able to Force-summon it. In any case, it doesn't really matter, as it's been implied that the Sith don't really ''need'' lightsabers: they just use them to mock the Jedi. His Force capabilities as, you know, the ''most powerful Sith in history'' would have been more than sufficient to take Luke apart piece by piece. As we of course eventually saw, albeit after the moron threw away his weapon in a largely pointless display of pacifism. In an action movie.
* Actually, I'd doubt Palpatine still carries a lightsaber, at least routinely. His first lightsaber was lost when Mace Windu disarmed him (it flew out the window), but he had a backup for facing Yoda. After the Jedi were destroyed, Palpatine doesn't need a lightsaber to protect himself, he has his Imperial Starfleet, Imperial Army, Imperial Stormtroopers, Imperial Royal Guard, and (if you believe the EU) Noghri bodyguards, Inquisitors, and Emperor's Hands, to say nothing of copious amounts of Sith Lightning. Besides, carrying a lightsaber visibly would raise question Palpatine would rather not have raised. Sure, he could conceal it, but why bother carrying it in the first place? He's quite adequately defended without it.

[[WMG: Vader threw the fight with Luke because he couldn't bring himself to kill his own son]]
The only time you see Vader really try to kill Luke is in ''Film/ANewHope'' during the Trench Run, and he doesn't even know who Luke is at that point. When the Emperor tells him that "I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker." Vader's first thought is how to turn Luke, so that they could overthrow the Emperor and end the war, ruling the galaxy as Father and Son. Him fighting Luke at Cloud City was a test, to see what his son's strengths were, and to try and sway him to Vader's side. Cutting off Luke's hand was an accident, which is why Vader stops attacking him at this point in the duel and instead reveals the truth, hoping to finally sway Luke to join him in overthrowing the Emperor.

Come ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Vader is reluctant to bring Luke to the Emperor, but does so mostly out of hope that Luke will join him. His comment "It is pointless to resist" is him telling Luke to give in to his hatred of the Emperor, so that they can kill him and become the new rulers. When Luke makes a move to kill Palpatine, Vader steps in to stop Luke from turning to the Dark Side because he knows that Luke, having been swayed by Palpatine, will merely replace Palpaine rather than join with Vader. Notice that never once does Vader even come close to killing Luke, and Luke even manages to get the upper hand a few times (Force Kicking Vader down the stairs). When Luke hides in the shadows, Vader once again tries to talk him into joining him in striking down Palpatine ("Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends.") His talk of turning Leia to the Dark Side is a furtherance of his goal of having the Skywalker family united and ruling a peaceful galaxy. When Luke attacks him this time, he cannot fight back without hurting/killing Luke, which leads to him losing a hand and almost dying at Luke's hand. If you look closely when Vader is lying on the catwalk, you can see him moving his hand as if to say, "Calm down, control yourself," to Luke, who is still wanting to kill him at that moment. He is trying to calm his Luke because killing Vader would leave Luke to be trained by Palpatine i.e. not part of the Vader MasterPlan. In the end, he turns back to the Light Side and kills Palpatine once he realizes that this is a replay of the moment that he turned to the Dark Side: a Jedi is about to be killed by Palpatine right in front of him, and he has to make a decision who he will side with. This time, he chooses to reject Palpatine in order to save his son, and dies for it.
* I don't believe Vader taking Luke's hand was an accident. You must remember that limbs are easily replaced in this universe (comparable to fixing a broken arm). Luke was not going to stop fighting until he died or was disarmed. At least two times, Vader basically stopped fighting to tell Luke to give up and that he's been beaten, only to piss off Luke more to keep fighting. Couple that with the hit that Luke scored on him (shoulder, I believe), Luke was more powerful and determined than Vader thought. Taking his weapon (and his hand) was the only way to stop the fighting that would end up with one of them dead so that Vader can try to convince Luke to join up.
** Also, Vader wants Luke to join the Dark Side which you need frustration, anger, and other negative emotions to do. What pisses someone off? Cutting off their good hand is certainly one way. Plus if Luke had simply fainted from the pain and shock. Vader could hold him prisoner or at least take Luke with him so he could get him to turn in a environment that more suits Vader's needs.

[[WMG: Ben and Yoda lied to Luke specifically so he could kill Vader.]]
While Yoda tells Luke that they lied because they didn't think he could stand the truth, he was still lying. When he and Ben told Luke that Anakin was utterly lost to the Dark Side, they were lying. They knew that Vader might still have some spark of good left in him, but they didn't want that spark revived. Why? Because they didn't want Anakin redeemed.

After years of brooding over their failure and mourning their dead friends, Ben and Yoda wanted Vader punished for his crimes. They wanted him dead and rotting in Sith Hell, not redeemed by the Light Side and getting into Jedi Heaven. So, they lied to Luke so that he'd feel righteous anger (though not Dark Side anger) towards his father's supposed murderer, then go off and cut the armored buzzard down without a second thought. That's also why they didn't want him to try to save his friends: more programming for their cause and more reasons to hate Vader's guts.

Fortunately for everyone, Luke saw the truth and took the right path, resulting in Anakin's redemption, Palpatine's death and freedom for the galaxy.
* In a less callous judgment of them, they probably did a risk/reward analysis and decided that even if Anakin did supposedly "have a spark of goodness left in him", Vader betrayed their order, slaughtered children, helped enslave much of the galaxy, and served as Palpatine's attack dog for nearly two decades, so that spark would be extremely difficult to bring out. Luke was too valuable to risk doing what they thought was likely a pipe-dream.
* The problem with that is that all of that stuff is extremely contrary to the Jedi's teachings. Jedi don't seek revenge, they don't believe in using anger (even righteous anger) and they don't believe in killing where it can possibly be avoided. They would rather see a fellow Jedi redeemed than dead any day, especially considering they were almost extinct at the time. They probably just thought Vader was too far gone to try, since Obi-Wan already tried to bring him back and he failed.

to:

Back in ''The Empire Strikes Back'', ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', we saw the adult space slug -- a gigantic gigantic, worm-like creature which tried to eat things that lived in an asteroid and had a breathable atmosphere inside it, in an asteroid field it. The theory is that looked kind of like the results of Sarlacc is the destruction of Alderaan (so larval form, and that it might originally have been on ''also'' has an atmosphere inside it, given that Boba Fett can hang around in there for a planet). In ''Return of the Jedi'', we see a smaller worm-like long time while he's slowly digested.\\
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creature that tries bears a striking resemblance to eat things; it was on a planet with a breathable atmosphere, no vegetable life, and a lot of ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' references. In ''Dune'', the sandworms provided of ''Literature/{{Dune}}'', which actually supply the atmosphere of Arrakis, and the atmosphere of Tatooine has to come from ''somewhere''.

Also consider that the Galaxy Far, Far Away is home to a very large number of very nasty organizations, all of which are eager to inflict the most horrible deaths they can on their enemies, but only one of them, and evidently not one that's exactly on the cutting edge of things like scientific knowledge and military equipment, uses the Sarlacc for executions.

Thus, the Sarlacc is a larval form of a space slug, and
planet Arrakis. These space slugs are terraformers originally created very similar, supplying atmosphere to other planets that might need it, including Tatooine. They may even have been planted there by the [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Rakata]] or one of the other species of {{Precursors}} that were so prevalent in the Galaxy Far, Far Away is positively swimming in. Like Galaxy, as part of ongoing {{Terraform}}ing efforts. The one we see in ''Empire'' might also have been placed on a space slug, it eats anything planet that gets close, but it digests things over met a normal, less-than-a-thousand-years timeframe -- it needs the biological molecules. (It can probably similar unfortunate fate to Alderaan (which might also handle metals and use those for structural purposes as well; it must get its energy from explain why it's part of an internal cold-fusion reactor or thereabouts, as neither AsteroidThicket). Notice also how the mouth of the Sarlacc nor the space slug had a diet that would provide enough energy for its extreme activity level.)

Ask any xenobiologist, and he can tell you as much -- and can probably give you a DNA sample and tell you where other creatures of the species are located, how long they take to mature, how long it takes a mature one to transform a desert wasteland into a comfortably habitable planet, and whether they die after the end of their Roaring Rampage of Terraforming or whether you have to kill them.

Jabba, of course, was too clever for the xenobiologists and asked the local Jawas instead, explaining why he's the only person
in the galaxy who throws people into the Sarlacc as opposed to inflicting some other, more conventional, form of horrible death.

Its form as depicted in the original version of ''Return of the Jedi'' is a very "newly-hatched" stage, where the characteristic space-slug mouth is still developing; its form as of
the Special Edition (which was more closely resembles what Lucas wanted we see in ''Empire''.\\
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The space slugs have an extremely slow metabolism, digesting things over thousands of years. They use the biological entities they eat
to do to begin with, power their atmosphere-making system; although he didn't it takes forever, their slow metabolism also allows them to go long periods between feeding. This isn't very evolutionarily advantageous, but it's a damn weird universe; they may even have been genetically engineered for their terraforming purpose.\\
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As for why Jabba
the budget) is Hutt uses the Sarlacc as an elaborate execution device: He's out in the ass-end of the Galaxy. Most of the nasties will use much more efficient execution methods. Jabba probably isn't even aware of what a later-stage juvenile space slug.

slug is for; he probably just sees it as a way to kill people in as painful a way as possible.

[[WMG: The Ewoks are the most bad-ass race in the Galaxy.Sarlacc is an EldritchAbomination that serves as a portal to Hell.]]
They're willing to take on enemies with far more advanced weapons, like AT-STs and blasters, which takes guts. They are able to create huge suspended villages and set up effective traps in a short amount of time, which shows good planning and discipline. They aren't afraid to use unfamiliar technology, which makes them adaptable. And finally, there appears to be thousands of the little buggers, which could indicate rapid breeding. If they ever get off planet, they might start their own empire.
* Take note that they do appear to be the only species in the entire galaxy that understands the concept (and has the wherewithal to build) railings.
** But the gantry that Luke and Vader duel on in ESB has a railing (Vader even cuts through it at multiple points)!
* Well, Sidious did describe Ewoks as if "[[Series/StudioC Chuck Norris walked into Build-A-Bear and created a super army!"]]
* As we see in the Ewok movies and cartoon series, Endor has a lot of big nasty predators. Big by ''human'' standards. Those vicious little teddy bears HadToBeSharp and became apex predators of their homeworld.
* ''{{VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic}}'' players get a closer look at Ewok badassery via Treek. She can push aside humanoids twice her size, has an array of primitive, but vicious and effective, tools for hunting, killed the crew of the crashed ship to get off Endor, and was so badass that ''Mandalorian Clan Ordo'' decided she was worthy to fight with them. And that's just one Ewok hunter. The Heroes of Yavin recruited a small army of Treeks and handed the Imps their asses.

[[WMG: The Sarlacc is actually an EldritchAbomination that serves as a portal to Hell, and the people telling otherwise were making the whole thing up]]
Hence
That's why the people who falls fall in there will be in great pain, for a thousand years, if undergo an eternity of pain. It's not eternity. On the other hand, digestion -- it's not just a thousand-years digestion, it [[FateWorseThanDeath could be worse]]....
* Indeed. [[Film/MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Could be stabbed.]]

FateWorseThanDeath, the Galaxy's primitive understanding of the eternal torture of Hell. The people who ascribe biological sources to the torture are either ignorant of the Sarlacc's true nature or are incredibly freaked out and lying to the world at large.

[[WMG: The Ewoks are Anakin brought balance to the Furlings of Franchise/{{Stargate|Verse}} fame.Force by killing Palpatine.]]
Think about it. The Ewoks created huge villages suspended from the trees, and fended off a troop of Imperial forces, armed with slingshots and rocks. A species with that much intelligence and skill could have easily been one of the four races if they had a stargate.
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This is now my personal canon.

[[WMG: Simply Striking Down Palpatine Wouldn't Have Turned Luke to the Dark Side...]]
...and Palpatine is ''fully'' aware of that. Killing Palpatine would've effectively been something heroic, it would have saved the lives of millions, so it was only justified. However, Palpatine is a MagnificentBastard, after all. Once he directly points out that he's defenceless ([[BlatantLies except for the electricity Luke probably
doesn't know about]]) ''then'' it stops being outright heroric. Palpatine then messes with Luke's head. If Luke did strike Palpatine down, he would've gone to the Dark Side ''really'' count as WMG because he ''believed'' he'd fallen to it's Creator/GeorgeLucas's interpretation of the Dark Side, due to misplaced guilt prophecy. But we know so little of the prophecy, and all that.

Imagine if Luke wasn't
there are so {{lawful|Good}} and was instead an AntiHero, and simply went "ShutUpHannibal" and Force-pulled his lightsaber and chopped him down then and there. Would many competing theories about it, that really have dragged him to the dark side on ''its own''?
* Presumably if he tried at that point, Vader would have intervened, and the fight between them would have just started earlier (and if Vader didn't intervene in time, Palpatine surely could have Force-pushed or lightninged Luke to defend himself). Palpatine's plan was
there's probably to provoke Luke into aggression, get him to start a fight, and let it snowball from there.

And of course, by making it seem like such a wrong thing to do, Palpatine pretty much guaranteed that Luke wouldn't kill him. Fortunately, Vader intervened and killed the Emperor.

[[WMG: Anakin brought balance to the force by killing Palpatine]]
The Sith is not what was causing the imbalance, it was Palpatine. So, with the death of Palpatine, the Force was brought into balance.
** Actually it was the Sith.
more than one fan out there who's never heard this interpretation before.\\
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Basically, the idea behind comes from the prophecy is that Dark Side being an inherent imbalance in the Sith and Force. While many viewers see the light-dark dichotomy as a balance, the Dark Side's use of the Force is unnatural. If the Force is basically TheLifestream, the Dark Side is a cancer upon the Force. A balance isn't an equal amount of Sith and Jedi, it is the complete absence of the Sith. Anakin killed his master and in so doing died himself. He brought balance to the force yet was at the same time one of the things unbalancing it since he was a Sith, as there are only two true Sith at any given time, of which Palpatine was the master and Anakin the apprentice. His self-sacrifice killed his master and himself and brought balance. The prophecy wasn't misread, it simply came at a time when it wasn't expected.
*** Well of course the Sith are causing the imbalance: half of what they do is
essentially [[ImmortalityImmorality abusing life it for their own benefit]], and personal benefit]]; the Force is basically TheLifestream. The Force doesn't like people siphoning it off like that.
*** This troper always interpreted
that and wants to get rid of it. Anakin fulfills the prophecy differently. From what we know in ''Return of the prequels, there were literally thousands and thousands of Jedi, whose vast presence in the Force was deeply rooted in the light side, and in a perfectly balanced system, especially in a duality like the Force, one side cannot exceed the other in volume and strength. The Jedi were the Sith, but on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum. The only difference was their values. Remember Obi-Wan's line in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''? "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." That ''itself'' is an absolute, but from the other side of the coin. That's why the Jedi ''had'' to die, because the Force was not perfectly balanced under them either. And recall Kreia's line from ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'': "For every Jedi slain, for every Sith slain, another will arise." This is a cycle of light and dark struggling to overpower one another that has been raging for ''millennia'' and will continue to do so until the universe eventually just burns itself out. Therefore, bringing balance to the Force is nothing unique. It's just part of the overall natural design in the ''Star Wars'' universe. It's the system correcting itself for an overflow it can't handle. If the Jedi truly wish to bring the Force into perfect balance, they need to be less rigid and inflexible in some of their ideals, and try to learn to incorporate the usually hateful aspects of the dark side into their teachings in a positive way, as we've seen many Force practitioners accomplish this successfully throughout the ''Star Wars'' mythos.
** Or, it was balanced because Palpatine was the last '''Jedi or Sith''' in the galaxy. Remember, Yoda told Luke he wouldn't be a Jedi unless he killed Vader, and he didn't. The Jedi were the action, and the Sith were the equal and opposite reaction. Both authorities are now eliminated.
*** Nope, Yoda said he wouldn't be Jedi unless he ''confronted'' Vader, which he did. Plus Luke actually says "I am a Jedi."
* Palpatine wasn't the last Jedi or Sith. Luke was. He became a full Jedi
Jedi'' when he defeated Vader and turned him to kills Palpatine.\\
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the light side. That meant Palpatine was competing theory ([[WMG/RevengeOfTheSith a WMG in itself]]) is that Anakin fulfilled the only Sith left, and Vader killed him. No more Sith = balance was restored.

* Alternatively, Darth Vader did bring balance to
prophecy in ''Revenge of the Force...in Episode III. Vader(under Palpatine's order's but still) destroys Sith'' by slaughtering most of the Jedi Order. Eventually, we see in the movies only two surviving, Obi-wan and Yoda. After Obi-wan dies, Luke becomes a Jedi, so that there leaving only two Jedi left...a master (Obi-Wan and a apprentice, just like Yoda) and two Sith (himself and Palpatine). But if you call this balance in the Sith. 2 = 2, Force, it doesn't last very long; Obi-Wan dies, and it takes a while for Luke to really become a "Jedi" (and if you claim he was ''always'' a Jedi because of his bloodline, then you have to add Leia to the light side equation, too, and we're back to imbalance).\\
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A further point in favor of the theory that Vader fulfilled the prophecy in ''Jedi'' is the companion theory that Luke's conception
of the Force is balanced totally different with the dark side that of the Force.
** While there are others besides Vader who kill off the
old Jedi over the gap between episodes III and IV, such as clone troopers, stormtroopers, bounty hunters, etc, Council; all they aren't killing have is the Jedi. They're killing individuals. The Sith are individuals. The name "Jedi" in common. It's not just the selfishness and perversion of the Dark Side that's an imbalance; it's the rigidity and obtuseness of the Jedi, conversely are an Order, a group, a community. Thus it is Vader, by attacking the Jedi temple, killing off the younglings (and thus the next generation of Jedi), and preventing more Jedi from being brought up, too. Although Luke is the one who actually kills to have established the "new Jedi" school of the Jedi.

[[WMG: Palpatine lied about being unarmed]]
In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', when Mace and several other Jedi came up to his office to arrest him, he had his lightsaber pop out of some kind of springloaded sleeve holster and went on the attack. It would hardly be a stretch of the imagination for him to still use that lightsaber and its rig, since he would be able to defend himself if a would-be assassin defeated his elite bodyguards (Vader can't be at his side all the time, you know). Why he didn't whip
Force, it out and use it is the real puzzler though...
* Why would he?
was Vader was there and Luke fighting Vader was key to who eliminated the "turn him to the Dark Side" plan. When Vader grabbed him he didn't really have time to grab his saber and it wouldn't have done much good anyway.
* He might not even have bothered to use his saber anymore since he hadn't had to duel anyone for over twenty years. He seems to prefer to rely on
last vestige of improper Force powers instead of swordfighting if he can, like when he fought Yoda and started tearing down parts of the arena and throwing them at him. His lightning is more than enough to defend himself.
* Agreed. He may or may not have had it on him; if not,
teaching. And he probably had it stored away and might have been able to Force-summon it. In any case, it doesn't really matter, as it's been implied that the Sith don't really ''need'' lightsabers: they just use them to mock the Jedi. His Force capabilities as, you know, the ''most powerful Sith in history'' would have been more than sufficient to take Luke apart piece by piece. As we of course eventually saw, albeit after the moron threw away his weapon in a largely pointless display of pacifism. In an action movie.
* Actually, I'd doubt Palpatine still carries a lightsaber, at least routinely. His first lightsaber
was lost when Mace Windu disarmed him (it flew out the window), but he had a backup for facing Yoda. After the Jedi were destroyed, Palpatine doesn't need a lightsaber to protect himself, he has his Imperial Starfleet, Imperial Army, Imperial Stormtroopers, Imperial Royal Guard, and (if you believe the EU) Noghri bodyguards, Inquisitors, and Emperor's Hands, to say nothing of copious amounts of Sith Lightning. Besides, carrying a lightsaber visibly would raise question Palpatine would rather not have raised. Sure, he could conceal it, but why bother carrying it in the first place? He's quite adequately defended without it.

to truly understand how the Force ''really'' was meant to be taught; it adds a more poignant touch both to Vader's offer to Luke that they overthrow the Emperor together, and to Luke's line, "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

[[WMG: Vader threw the fight with Luke Luke, because he couldn't bring himself to kill his own son]]
The only time you see Vader really try to kill Luke is in ''Film/ANewHope'' during the Trench Run, and he doesn't even know who Luke is at that point. When the Emperor tells him that "I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker." Vader's first thought is how to turn Luke, so that they could overthrow the Emperor and end the war, ruling the galaxy as Father and Son. Him fighting Luke at Cloud City was a test, to see what his son's strengths were, and to try and sway him to Vader's side. Cutting off Luke's hand was an accident, which is why Vader stops attacking him at this point in the duel and instead reveals the truth, hoping to finally sway Luke to join him in overthrowing the Emperor.

Come ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Vader is reluctant to bring Luke to the Emperor, but does so mostly out of hope that Luke will join him. His comment "It is pointless to resist" is him telling Luke to give in to his hatred of the Emperor, so that they can kill him and become the new rulers. When Luke makes a move to kill Palpatine, Vader steps in to stop Luke from turning to the Dark Side because he knows that Luke, having been swayed by Palpatine, will merely replace Palpaine rather than join with Vader. Notice that never once does Vader even come close to killing Luke, and Luke even manages to get the upper hand a few times (Force Kicking Vader down the stairs). When Luke hides in the shadows, Vader once again tries to talk him into joining him in striking down Palpatine ("Give yourself to the dark side. It is the only way you can save your friends.") His talk of turning Leia to the Dark Side is a furtherance of his goal of having the Skywalker family united and ruling a peaceful galaxy. When Luke attacks him this time, he cannot fight back without hurting/killing Luke, which leads to him losing a hand and almost dying at Luke's hand. If you look closely when Vader is lying on the catwalk, you can see him moving his hand as if to say, "Calm down, control yourself," to Luke, who is still wanting to kill him at that moment. He is trying to calm his Luke because killing Vader would leave Luke to be trained by Palpatine i.e. not part of the Vader MasterPlan. In the end, he turns back to the Light Side and kills Palpatine once he realizes that this is a replay of the moment that he turned to the Dark Side: a Jedi is about to be killed by Palpatine right in front of him, and he has to make a decision who he will side with. This time, he chooses to reject Palpatine in order to save his son, and dies for it.
* I don't believe Vader taking Luke's hand was an accident. You must remember that limbs are easily replaced in this universe (comparable to fixing a broken arm). Luke was not going to stop fighting until he died or was disarmed. At least two times, Vader basically stopped fighting to tell Luke to give up and that he's been beaten, only to piss off Luke more to keep fighting. Couple that with the hit that Luke scored on him (shoulder, I believe), Luke was more powerful and determined than Vader thought. Taking his weapon (and his hand) was the only way to stop the fighting that would end up with one of them dead so that Vader can try to convince Luke to join up.
** Also, Vader wants Luke to join the Dark Side which you need frustration, anger, and other negative emotions to do. What pisses someone off? Cutting off their good hand is certainly one way. Plus if Luke had simply fainted from the pain and shock. Vader could hold him prisoner or at least take Luke with him so he could get him to turn in a environment that more suits Vader's needs.

[[WMG: Ben and Yoda lied to Luke specifically so he could kill Vader.
son.]]
While Yoda tells The only time Vader genuinely tries to kill Luke is when he tries to shoot him down over the Death Star in ''Film/ANewHope'', and he doesn't know who Luke is at that point. Once Vader learns that Luke is his son, he makes every effort to try and turn him to his side -- so that together, they could overthrow the Emperor and [[WeCanRuleTogether rule together]].\\
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In ''The Empire Strikes Back'', he's clearly toying with Luke and refuses to kill him so that he can [[LukeIAmYourFather reveal who he is]] and offer his ultimatum. He does cut off Luke's hand, but that was a ploy to activate a TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening (or perhaps an accident -- he might not be used to holding back). By ''Return of the Jedi'', Vader is reluctant to actually bring Luke to the Emperor; he does so mostly in the hope that Luke will join him. His comment that "it is pointless to resist" refers to Luke's hatred of the Emperor; he's encouraging Luke to kill the Emperor so
that they lied because they could take over together.\\
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Vader hasn't given up on turning Luke by pissing him off, forcing him to give in to his anger. And he succeeds when he threatens to turn Leia. Then he finds Luke suddenly going to town on him, but he ''still'' can't bring himself to kill Luke, essentially allowing Luke to cut his hand off. You can even see Vader kind of wave his hand as if signalling Luke to calm down. He's realizing that his plan might backfire on him -- if Luke gave in and killed Vader, Palpatine would train him in the ''real'' Dark Side. Luke, however, can't bring himself to kill Vader, and Vader sees clearly that he is much more closely aligned with Luke than with Palpatine -- so he chooses to get rid of Palpatine.

[[WMG: Ben and Yoda
didn't think he could stand tell Luke who Vader was in the truth, hope that Luke would kill Vader.]]
Ben claims he didn't tell Luke because as far as
he was still lying. When concerned, the man he and Ben told knew as Anakin [[ThatManIsDead was dead]], having been subsumed by Darth Vader. Yoda, meanwhile, claims he just figured that Luke couldn't handle the truth. But both were lying when they said that Anakin was utterly totally lost to the Dark Side, Side; they were lying. They knew that Vader might believed he still have some spark of had good left in him, but they didn't want that spark revived. Why? Because they didn't want Anakin redeemed.

After years of brooding over their failure and mourning their dead friends, Ben and Yoda wanted Vader punished for his crimes. They wanted him dead and rotting in Sith Hell, not redeemed by the Light Side and getting into Jedi Heaven. So, they lied to
as Luke so that he'd feel righteous anger (though not Dark Side anger) towards his father's supposed murderer, then go off and cut the armored buzzard down without a second thought. That's also why did. But they didn't want him to try to save his friends: more programming for their cause redeemed -- Anakin had committed such crimes in the name of the Dark Side, including slaughtering children, toppling the entire Galactic government, and more reasons to hate Vader's guts.

Fortunately for everyone,
replacing it with a dictatorship, that he was beyond forgiveness. They suspected Luke saw would try anyway, and he was doomed to fail.\\
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In some sense, this proves
the truth and took point of Luke not really adhering to the right path, resulting in Anakin's old Jedi ways. One would think that the Jedi would teach what Luke believes: nobody is beyond redemption, Palpatine's death and freedom for the galaxy.
* In a less callous judgment of them, they probably did a risk/reward analysis
revenge is evil and decided that even if Anakin did supposedly "have a spark of goodness left in him", Vader betrayed their order, slaughtered children, helped enslave much of the galaxy, and served as Palpatine's attack dog for nearly two decades, so that spark would be extremely difficult to bring out. Luke was too valuable to risk doing what they thought was likely a pipe-dream.
*
pointless. The problem with that is that all of that stuff is extremely contrary to the Jedi's teachings. Jedi don't seek revenge, they don't believe in using anger (even righteous anger) and they don't believe in killing where it can possibly be avoided. They would rather see a fellow Jedi redeemed than dead any day, especially considering they old Jedi, however, were almost extinct at the time. They probably just thought Vader was too far gone to try, since mired in war and politics; Obi-Wan already tried to bring him back was a ''general'' in the Old Republic, and Luke wasn't exactly unjustified in thinking of Yoda as a "great warrior" before he failed.
meets him.



The original Death Star was the first, so most of its elements had to be specifically created. While doing that, the Empire decided to produce spare parts as well, just in case. When the Death Star was destroyed, the Empire built the shield generator on Endor (which took longer than actually building the Death Star II) and then built the second Death Star using spare parts.
* Or, it's just a simple case of a copy being easier to make than the original. It took decades of research, planning, fundraising, politics, testing & re-testing, and the inevitable "back to the drawing board" moments to get Death Star I built. For Death Star II, they already knew how to put one together; they just needed to fix the exhaust port.
* The Empire already had the know-how to build a Death Star and the resources. Their government was more consolidated by 4 ABY than it was in 19 BBY, so they were able to order the project built and compel their shipyards to make it. (Command economies are generally good at large-scale industrial production, if not much else.)
* This actually crosses into the realms of FridgeHorror when you think about it too much. If we reasonably conclude the Empire had spare parts to assemble a ''second'' Death Star battle station so quickly, one must then ask ''why'' they had spare parts. The solution is simple: They were planning to build ''more'' Death Stars! And this makes a bit of sense, too. For however mighty the Death Star was, it simply could not be everywhere in the galaxy at once, and in a situation where tons of planets have become active hotbeds of resistance, you can't wait around for it to travel to each rebelling planet individually. So what do you do? Create an entire FLEET of Death Stars!
* Here's one more theory. There were members of the Imperial Senate that were sympathetic to the Rebels and they purposely held up construction of the first Death Star. Remember that the Senate was dissolved by Palpatine only four year earlier during A New Hope.

[[WMG: The Ewoks will eventually take over the galaxy.]]
The little BadassAdorable teddies can wipe out an entire army of [[InformedAbility apparently]] highly trained super soldiers, who have high tech weapons. The Ewoks used nothing but primitive sticks and stones. Surely the dead stormtroopers must have left much of their technology behind after their defeat. Just imagine once the Ewoks get the hang of using that technology.
* It will be a ''long'' time before that happens. Most likely, it would simply lead to a case of LowCultureHighTech. There would be no way the Ewoks would have the knowledge to use it to its full potential- or at least, not without outside help from the rest of the galaxy's inhabitants.

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The original Even if you account for the fact that the Empire had already built a functioning Death Star was and didn't need to repeat the first, so most of its elements research and testing for the second one, that's a ''remarkably'' fast turnaround time. They would have still had to be specifically created. While doing that, raise the Empire decided to produce spare parts as well, just in case. When the Death Star was destroyed, the Empire built the shield generator on Endor (which took longer than actually building the Death Star II) funds and then built political capital to build the second Death Star using spare parts.
* Or,
-- even in a dictatorship like what Palpatine runs, it's just a simple case of a copy being easier to make harder than it would seem because it's a ''really'' bad look to have your "unstoppable" superweapon blown up in such spectacular fashion. Palpatine probably convinced the original. It took decades of research, planning, fundraising, politics, testing & re-testing, and the inevitable "back to the drawing board" moments to get Death Star I built. For Death Star II, skeptics at least in part by showing that they already knew how to put one together; they just needed to fix had much of the exhaust port.
* The Empire already had the know-how
raw material to build a Death Star and the resources. Their government was more consolidated by 4 ABY than it quickly (the rest of it was in 19 BBY, so they were able just plain ol' "do what I say or I choke you to order death with the project built and compel their shipyards to make it. (Command economies Force").\\
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There
are generally good at large-scale industrial production, if not much else.)
* This actually crosses into the realms of FridgeHorror when you think about it too much. If we reasonably conclude the Empire had spare
two possibilities for where said parts to assemble a ''second'' Death Star battle station so quickly, one must then ask ''why'' came from. The first is that they had spare parts. The solution is simple: They were planning to build ''more'' Death Stars! And this makes a bit of sense, too. For however mighty the Death Star was, it simply could not be everywhere in the galaxy at once, and in a situation where tons of planets have become active hotbeds of resistance, you can't wait around for it to travel to each rebelling planet individually. So what do you do? Create an entire FLEET of Death Stars!
* Here's one more theory. There were members
salvaged some of the Imperial Senate that were sympathetic to the Rebels and they purposely held up construction wreckage of the first Death Star. Remember Star floating around in space. The second is that the Senate was dissolved by Palpatine only four year earlier during A New Hope.

[[WMG: The Ewoks will eventually take over the galaxy.]]
The little BadassAdorable teddies can wipe out an entire army of [[InformedAbility apparently]] highly trained super soldiers, who have high tech weapons. The Ewoks used nothing but primitive sticks and stones. Surely the dead stormtroopers must have left much of
they had spares from their technology behind after their defeat. Just imagine once the Ewoks get the hang of using that technology.
* It will be
initial construction efforts. Which makes sense -- if you were building a ''long'' time before that happens. Most likely, it Death Star, you wouldn't stop at just one, [[FridgeHorror would simply lead to a case of LowCultureHighTech. There would be no way the Ewoks would have the knowledge to use it to its full potential- or at least, not without outside help from the rest of the galaxy's inhabitants.
you]]?



In Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack, Yoda told Luke that, through the Force, Jedi could see visions of the past, as well as the future. A young Leia, being strong in the Force, saw visions of Padme, her birth mother. However, Leia, not knowing about her true heritage, didn't realize just what she was really seeing. So, she interpreted them as being actual, if fragmented, memories of her mother. It's possible Luke had similar visions, but he responded by just putting them out of his mind, since he apparently knew next to nothing about his real mother and had no true frame of reference.
* Jedi don't seem to be able to tell what visions they'll get. Sometimes if they meditate hard they'll have one, but sometimes they're unbidden (like Anakin's dreams about his mother or Padme dying, or Luke's of his friends being held captive). So Leia might have had some about her mother, but Luke never did for whatever reason, even though neither of them ever knew her.

[[WMG:Darth Sidious saw Vader's betrayal coming yet not as soon as it did.]]
Darth Sidious's reaction when being picked up by Darth Vader was like he was expecting Vader's betrayal yet was not done killing Luke yet. He most likely thought that he had enough time to kill Luke and truely turn Vader to The Dark Side. He saw Vader's hesitance to kill Luke during his Holo message and realized Vader still had good in him so when Luke refused to turn to The Dark Side he decided to finish Vader's turn to darkness by killing Luke and inciting Vader to vengance. What he did not expect was that he took too much time in killing Luke that Anakin would spring into action to stop him during the killing not after. Darth Sidious's fall wasn't an {{EvilCannotComprehendGood}} it was a {{DrunkOnTheDarkSide}} moment which as all such moments do took too long and ended ruining his plan.

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In Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack, Leia claims that she remembers her mother, but given what we see in ''Revenge of the Sith'', this isn't possible -- her birth mother died basically minutes after giving birth to her. So what gives? She was sensing her mother with the Force. Yoda told Luke that, through the Force, does mention that Jedi could see visions of the past, past as well as the future. A young Leia, being strong in the Force, saw visions of Padme, her birth mother. However, Leia, not knowing about her true heritage, she was Force sensitive at the time, didn't realize just what she was really seeing. So, she interpreted them as being actual, if fragmented, seeing and assumed they were genuine memories of her mother. It's possible Luke had similar rather than Force visions. The Force also seems to be rather random in what it chooses to show with respect to visions, but he responded by just putting them out of his mind, since he apparently knew next to nothing about his real mother and had no true frame of reference.
* Jedi don't seem to be able to tell what visions they'll get. Sometimes if they meditate hard they'll have one, but sometimes they're unbidden (like Anakin's dreams about his mother or
explaining why Leia could see Padme dying, or Luke's of his friends being held captive). So Leia might have had some about her mother, but and Luke never did for whatever reason, even though neither of them ever knew her.

[[WMG:Darth Sidious saw Vader's betrayal coming yet not as soon as it did.]]
Darth Sidious's reaction when being picked up by Darth Vader was like he was expecting Vader's betrayal yet was not done killing Luke yet. He most likely thought that he had enough time to kill Luke and truely turn Vader to The Dark Side. He saw Vader's hesitance to kill Luke during his Holo message and realized Vader still had good in him so when Luke refused to turn to The Dark Side he decided to finish Vader's turn to darkness by killing Luke and inciting Vader to vengance. What he did not expect was that he took too much time in killing Luke that Anakin would spring into action to stop him during the killing not after. Darth Sidious's fall wasn't an {{EvilCannotComprehendGood}} it was a {{DrunkOnTheDarkSide}} moment which as all such moments do took too long and ended ruining his plan.
couldn't.



His training was clearly incomplete. Yet Luke will, according to Yoda, become a Jedi if he confronts Vader. Essentially what Yoda was implying was basically "if you manage to confront Vader and survive the experience/aren't turned to the Dark Side, you might just be good enough to be a Jedi after all." Except he doesn't quite put it like that, lest Luke be discouraged.
* Alternatively, what makes a Jedi a Jedi? Standing up to a Sith Lord, and not being turning (regardless of whether you live or die) may be enough to make the grade.
* Although Sith being ''extremely'' rare, using confrontations with them as a test for becoming a full-Jedi would not be feasible. In ''The Phantom Menace'' the Jedi Council was flat-out shocked by the implication that Darth Maul was an actual Sith even with Qui-Gon's account. It was put to Luke as a test because they had always intended to use Luke as their assassin to get to Vader and Palpatine, and they needed to keep him motivated.

[[WMG: Luke and Leia being siblings was a last-minute addition by Lucas.]]
Though Lucas may claim that he planned it all out, that would make [[{{Twincest}} the kiss between the two]] and the semi-flirtation really [[{{Squick}} squicky]](or hot), making us question Lucas' tastes. Originally, Lucas wanted a LoveTriangle between Luke, Han and Leia. However he had to resolve it with Han and Leia pairing up, considering how popular the pairing was. And as we all know, Lucas is known for two things: [[LukeIAmYourFather Shocking family revelations]] and [[{{RomanticPlotTumor}} piss-poor romance stories]]. Leia being Luke's sister combined them both. Lucas thought we'd just forget the original LoveTriangle angle, but even [[{{Rule34}} before the internet]] people are going to jump [[{{BrotherSisterIncest}} to conclusions.]]
* Agreed. This is part of a larger issue with the Star Wars series, in that there have been several films made by George Lucas over many years, and the films contain contradictory information. Those contradictions can be explained easily by the fact that Lucas kept adjusting his fictional universe as he got new ideas, as any creative mind would.
** This also explains why Obi-Wan told Luke that Vader killed Luke's father. It's because, at that point in the production of the story, that was what was to have happened. George Lucas made up the rest later.
** Also notice that there is absolutely no evidence of midi-chlorians in the original trilogy. Instead, the Force was basically just magic in space. Later it was someone's idea to come up with a more "realistic" explanation for the Force, so that's the answer they came up with. If midi-chlorians existed in the Galaxy Far, Far Away, there would have been knowledge of them at least among the Force users Obi-Wan, Vader, Palpatine, and Yoda, yet none of them mention it ever.
** C-3PO and [= R2D2 =] were present in the prequel trilogy, yet no mention of it was ever made in the original trilogy. Conveniently explained by C-3PO's mind being wiped, but neither Obi-Wan nor Vader remember the droids. And young Anakin supposedly build C-3PO himself!
* It ''was'' a last minute addition.
* Devil's advocate here, but a love triangle makes perfect sense when Luke and Leia don't know they're related. There's no taboo if you are genuinely unaware of the relationship. Combining with a bit of FridgeBrilliance, Luke and Leia clearly had a sudden and immediate attraction to each other. They're both strong in the Force, albeit untrained, and siblings, so this instant affection could easily be that they recognize each other on a fundamental level. This is borne out by Leia's line that "Somehow, I've always known" that Luke was her brother. But, they were both raised as only children, so had no brother-sister emotions to relate this sudden feeling to. The only way they could emotionally process it at the time was as a romantic attraction. Once they learned the truth, everything fell into place.
** There is some TruthInTelevision to this sort of thing: it's called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic sexual attraction]].

[[WMG: The Ewoks will quickly modernize after which they'll be outraged to learn that C-3PO is not a god.]]
The only reason they joined a war they had no stake in is because they thought C-3PO was a god. They probably won't be happy to learn that they fought and died on the word of something that rolled off an assembly line.

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His Yoda tells Luke that his training was clearly incomplete. Yet Luke will, according to Yoda, is not yet complete, but that he will become a Jedi if he confronts Vader. Essentially what Putting two and two together, Yoda was implying was basically "if you manage is essentially saying that if Luke manages to confront Vader and survive the experience/aren't experience without being turned to the Dark Side, you might just be good enough to be a Jedi after all." Except then he will have proven that he ''is'' a Jedi. It's a slim chance of happening, but Yoda doesn't quite put it like that, lest Luke be discouraged.
*
want to discourage Luke. Alternatively, what makes a Jedi a Jedi? Standing up to a Sith Lord, and not being turning (regardless of whether you live or die) may be enough to make the grade.
* Although Sith being ''extremely'' rare, using confrontations with them as a test for becoming a full-Jedi would not be feasible. In ''The Phantom Menace'' the Jedi Council was flat-out shocked by the implication
Yoda recognizes that Darth Maul was there's an actual Sith even with Qui-Gon's account. It was put to Luke as a test imbalance in the Force in the form of the Dark Side (one that wasn't present in the prequels because they the Sith had always intended to use been "extinct for millennia") and that if Luke as their assassin to get to Vader and Palpatine, and they needed to keep him motivated.

were a true Jedi, he could correct it by successfully confronting Vader.

[[WMG: Luke and Leia being siblings was a last-minute addition by Lucas.addition.]]
Though Lucas may claim that he planned Creator/GeorgeLucas claims it was his plan all out, that would make [[{{Twincest}} along, but it doesn't jive with what we saw in the kiss between the two]] previous two films. Luke and the semi-flirtation really [[{{Squick}} squicky]](or hot), making us question Lucas' tastes. Originally, Lucas wanted Leia were clearly semi-flirting with each other and shared ''two'' kisses (well, one and a half). Clearly, he was originally thinking of a LoveTriangle between Han, Luke, Han and Leia. However he had to resolve it with Han and Leia pairing up, considering how popular Leia.\\
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Now,
the pairing was. And as we all know, Lucas is known for two things: [[LukeIAmYourFather Shocking family revelations]] and [[{{RomanticPlotTumor}} piss-poor romance stories]]. Leia being Luke's sister combined them both. Lucas thought we'd just forget the original LoveTriangle angle, but even [[{{Rule34}} before the internet]] people are going to jump [[{{BrotherSisterIncest}} to conclusions.]]
* Agreed. This is part of a larger issue with the Star Wars series, in that there have been several films made by George Lucas over many years, and the films contain contradictory information. Those contradictions can be explained easily by the fact that Lucas kept adjusting his fictional universe as he got new ideas, as any creative mind would.
** This also explains why Obi-Wan told Luke that Vader killed Luke's father. It's because, at that point in the production of the story, that was what was to have happened. George Lucas made up the rest later.
** Also notice that there is absolutely no evidence of midi-chlorians in the original trilogy. Instead, the Force was basically just magic in space. Later it was someone's idea to come up with a more "realistic" explanation for the Force, so that's the answer they came up with. If midi-chlorians existed in the Galaxy Far, Far Away, there would have been knowledge of them at least among the Force users Obi-Wan, Vader, Palpatine, and Yoda, yet none of them mention it ever.
** C-3PO and [= R2D2 =] were present in the prequel trilogy, yet no mention of it was ever made in the original trilogy. Conveniently explained by C-3PO's mind being wiped, but neither Obi-Wan nor Vader remember the droids. And young Anakin supposedly build C-3PO himself!
* It ''was'' a last minute addition.
* Devil's advocate here, but a love triangle makes perfect sense when
not mutually exclusive; Luke and Leia don't know ''know'' they're related. There's no taboo if you are genuinely unaware of the relationship. Combining with a bit of FridgeBrilliance, Luke [[SurpriseIncest siblings]], and Leia clearly had as far as they knew they were part of a sudden and immediate attraction to each other. They're both strong in the Force, albeit untrained, and siblings, so this instant affection could easily be genuine love triangle. And furthermore, given that they recognize didn't grow up together, they might even be ''more'' inclined to be attracted to each other on a fundamental level. This is borne out by Leia's line that "Somehow, I've always known" that Luke was her brother. But, they were both raised as only children, so had no brother-sister emotions account of their relation thanks to relate this sudden feeling to. The only way they could emotionally process it at the time was as a romantic attraction. Once they learned the truth, everything fell into place.
** There is some TruthInTelevision to this sort of thing: it's called
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic sexual attraction]].

attraction]]. But we need to remember that we're dealing with George frigging Lucas, who over time has proven himself famous for [[FlipFlopOfGod inconsistent claims as to his intentions]], [[LukeIAmYourFather shocking familiar revelations]], and [[RomanticPlotTumor complete inability to write a believable romance]]. It's more likely that Lucas wanted Han and Leia to get together, but realized that Luke and Leia would have been a more natural fit, and so resolved the love triangle by making two of the parties related. (And with Leia's line, "Somehow, I've always known," he can make the viewer look stupid for even ''thinking'' that Luke/Leia would have been better!)\\
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There's also the issue that several characters ''did'' know that Luke and Leia were siblings, most notably Obi-Wan, Yoda, and R2-D2. A character like Obi-Wan would ''probably'' bring it up at some point; even if he were afraid of Luke piecing together who his father is if he knew Leia were his sister (which is unlikely), even a celibate monk like him should at least know there's something wrong with {{Twincest}}.\\
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In all honesty, this resolution to the love triangle was probably unnecessary. There was no real reason to think that Luke and Leia were genuinely attracted to each other. Luke's initial infatuation with Leia could easily stem from her representing the world outside Tatooine that he never got to experience -- pretty princesses running rebellions is not exactly a thing on Tatooine. Luke doesn't make ''nearly'' as much effort to win Leia over as Han does. Leia, for her part, [[SlapSlapKiss likes Han but is easily annoyed by him]], and when Han annoys her, she flirts with Luke to show Han [[OperationJealousy what he should behave like]]. Luke finds the whole thing faintly amusing, given his smug reaction when Leia kisses him and his quick dismissal of Han's, "You think a princess and a guy like me..." If Lucas had a better sense of writing a romance, he could easily have shown Leia and Han growing closer to each other and Luke being okay with that, choosing to focus on learning the ways of the Force.

[[WMG: The Ewoks will quickly modernize after which modernize, and then they'll be outraged to learn realize that C-3PO is was not a god.god and become outraged.]]
The only reason they joined a war they They had no stake in is the war, and they only joined it because they thought C-3PO was a god.told them to. They probably won't be happy to learn that they fought and died on the word of something that rolled off an assembly line.



That's why Han is immediately friendly to Lando when they meet again afterwards, rather than still being mad about the betraying-him-to-Vader thing.

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That's why Han is immediately friendly to Lando when they meet again afterwards, rather than still being mad about the betraying-him-to-Vader thing.
being betrayed to Vader.



The Twi'leks are there mainly to seem impressive/give morale for his men, and because [[ForTheEvulz he likes tormenting them.]] He wasn't [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty trying to molest Leia]], just creep her out and demean her.
* Based on the EU short story collection ''Tales From Jabba's Palace'', Jabba ''does'' lust after humanoid females, but only when they make efforts to look more like a Hutt. That's why the skinny Twi'lek was expendable, but the other dancer was not. Apparently, her species evolved the ability to soak up water and store it in body fat, allowing her to perform what Jabba's court consider to be a sexy dance, by absorbing enough water to resemble Jabba, first. In which case, perhaps Jabba didn't lust after Leia to begin with. Maybe he was willing to wait a while, having his new human slave fattened up the slow but steady way, by making her gorge on lots and lots of rich, fattening food designed for a refined human palate. He might possibly have arranged for doctors or medical gizmos that would keep Leia healthy in every other way, while she got so fat that she was actually bigger than Jabba. It's just fortunate for Han, and the rebellion, that Chewbacca, Lando, and Luke came to her rescue long before Jabba managed to get even a single delivery of sufficient amounts of the right kind of human foods, so she was still fit and healthy for the escape.

[[WMG: Ewoks are a LostColony of Wookies.]]
George supposedly wanted the ewoks to be wookies originally but changed his mind given that wookies are technologically capable. What if we split the difference and say ewoks are a wookie subspecies whose ancestors crashed on Endor thousands of years ago. The physiological differences can be attributed to environmental factors. Given the existence of human subspecies in Star Wars, it's not without precedent.

[[WMG: Anakin's Ghost can change appearance]]
It's unlikely that only one single song is played continuously at the celebrations at Endor. After the cremation of Anakin Skywalker, revolts/celebrations occur on Coruscant, Naboo and Tatooine, Victory Celebration is played and Anakin appears to Luke as he did during the Clone Wars, at a later point in the celebration, when Ewok Celebration (aka Yub Nub) is played, he appears to Luke as he would have if he had continuously stayed on the light side by 4 ABY.

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The Twi'leks are there mainly to seem impressive/give make him look powerful, provide morale for his men, and because [[ForTheEvulz to torment them]]. Similarly, he likes tormenting them.]] He wasn't trying to [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty trying to molest Leia]], just creep her out and demean her.
* Based on the
her. The EU short story collection ''Tales From from Jabba's Palace'', Palace'' implies that Jabba ''does'' ''can'' lust after humanoid females, but only when humanoids if they make efforts an effort to look more like a Hutt. That's Hutt, hence why the skinny Twi'lek was expendable, expendable but the other dancer was not. Apparently, her species evolved the ability Leads to soak up water and store it in body fat, allowing her to perform what Jabba's court consider to be a sexy dance, by absorbing enough water to resemble Jabba, first. In which case, perhaps some FridgeHorror if one assumes that Jabba didn't lust after Leia to begin with. Maybe he was willing to wait a while, having his new human slave fattened up the slow but steady way, by making her gorge on lots and lots might have been thinking of rich, fattening food designed for a refined human palate. He might possibly have arranged for doctors or medical gizmos that would keep Leia healthy in every other way, while she got so fat that she was actually bigger than Jabba. It's just fortunate for Han, and the rebellion, that Chewbacca, Lando, and Luke came up to make her rescue long before Jabba managed more attractive to get even a single delivery of sufficient amounts of the right kind of human foods, so she was still fit and healthy for the escape.

him.

[[WMG: Ewoks are a LostColony of Wookies.Wookiees.]]
George supposedly wanted the ewoks to be wookies Lucas apparently originally had Wookiees in the role the Ewoks play in ''Return of the Jedi'', but changed the known technological capabilities of the Wookiees would have obstructed his mind given that wookies are technologically capable. What if we desire to abuse the RockBeatsLaser trope. One can split the difference and say ewoks suggest that the two species are a wookie subspecies whose ancestors crashed on Endor thousands of years ago. The physiological differences can be attributed to environmental factors. Given related, having diverged evolutionarily over the existence course of human subspecies in Star Wars, it's not without precedent.

generations and having grown up on different homeworlds.

[[WMG: Anakin's Ghost Force ghost can change appearance]]
It's unlikely that only one single song is played continuously at
appearance.]]
In ''Return of
the celebrations at Endor. After the cremation of Anakin Skywalker, revolts/celebrations occur on Coruscant, Naboo and Tatooine, Victory Celebration is played and Anakin appears to Luke as Jedi'', he looks like he did during before he turned to the Clone Wars, Dark Side. But in ''Clone Wars'', at a later point in the same celebration, when Ewok Celebration (aka Yub Nub) is played, he appears to Luke as he would have if he had continuously stayed on he never turned to the light side by 4 ABY.
Dark Side.



This is based on a major squad of Princess/General Leia's Resistance in ''The Force Awakens'' having the same name as Moff Jerjerrod. While this would likely not happen in the ''Legends'' continuity due to his AdaptationalVillainy in that universe, in the canon universe and the deleted scenes, he only saw the Death Star as a means just to keep order and was not happy about destroying planets. He could very well have surrendered to the Alliance and joined them due to having morals, and going on to be a major player in the Alliance and the formation of the new Republic, if not the Resistance itself. If this is true, it makes him the second high-ranking Imperial to make a HeelFaceTurn in ''Return of the Jedi'' after his boss Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker.
[[WMG: Yoda lied to Luke about him being the Last of the Jedi]]
Yoda foresaw Luke's nephew, Ben Solo, become Kylo Ren, and in an effort to protect any Jedi still in hiding, he told Luke he would be the last. Maybe he even sent a transmission to the surviving Jedi, warning them about the events to come in order to prevent them from seeking Luke (or Leia) out after the war was over. He also chose not to warn Luke, as he probably wouldn't have believed him/accidentally make things worse.

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This is based on a A major squad of Princess/General Leia's Resistance in ''The Force Awakens'' having ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' has the same name as Moff Jerjerrod. While this would likely not happen in the ''Legends'' continuity due to his AdaptationalVillainy in that universe, in the canon universe and the deleted scenes, he only saw the Death Star as a means just to keep order and was not happy about destroying planets. He could very well have surrendered to the Alliance and joined them due to having morals, and going on to be a major player in the Alliance and the formation of the new Republic, if not the Resistance itself. If this is true, it makes him the second high-ranking Imperial to make a HeelFaceTurn in ''Return of the Jedi'' Jedi'', after his boss Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker.
[[WMG: Yoda lied to Luke about him being the Last of the Jedi]]
Yoda foresaw Luke's nephew, Ben Solo, become Kylo Ren, and in an effort to protect any Jedi still in hiding, he told Luke he would be the last. Maybe he even sent a transmission to the surviving Jedi, warning them about the events to come in order to prevent them from seeking Luke (or Leia) out after the war was over. He also chose not to warn Luke, as he probably wouldn't have believed him/accidentally make things worse.
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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.

[[WMG: The Sarlacc was created by genetic engineering.]]
The Fridge Logic dicussions mention that the way for the Sarlacc to function as describe just doesn't make sense since the only way to keep the prey alive so so long is such a roundabout way for feeding, why would anything evolve with such a method when there are easier, more efficient ones.

But it is possible that a intelligent Sadist engineered the Sarlacc as a cruel way to kill people. Maybe a Sith or maybe some with no Force powers, just a cruel nature and the knowledge and resources to create such a thing.

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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.

[[WMG: The Sarlacc was created by genetic engineering.]]
The Fridge Logic dicussions mention that the way for the Sarlacc to function as describe just doesn't make sense since the only way to keep the prey alive so so long is such a roundabout way for feeding, why would anything evolve with such a method when there are easier, more efficient ones.

But it is possible that a intelligent Sadist engineered the Sarlacc as a cruel way to kill people. Maybe a Sith or maybe some with no Force powers, just a cruel nature and the knowledge and resources to create such a thing.
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** But the gantry that Luke and Vader duel on in ESB has a railing (Vader even cuts through it at multiple points)!
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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.

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Not only did she likely hear Oola's death-screams while she was walking down the entryway, but the implication from when Luke was hanging from the static vane at Cloud City that Leia is also force-sensitive means that she might have felt everything Oola did in her final moments, which angered Leia either out of empathy, or confusion about what she was experiencing.experiencing.

[[WMG: The Sarlacc was created by genetic engineering.]]
The Fridge Logic dicussions mention that the way for the Sarlacc to function as describe just doesn't make sense since the only way to keep the prey alive so so long is such a roundabout way for feeding, why would anything evolve with such a method when there are easier, more efficient ones.

But it is possible that a intelligent Sadist engineered the Sarlacc as a cruel way to kill people. Maybe a Sith or maybe some with no Force powers, just a cruel nature and the knowledge and resources to create such a thing.

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