History WMG / ReturnOfTheJedi

18th Oct '16 10:23:11 AM Peteman
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The Twi'leks are there mainly to seem impressive/give morale for his men, and because [[ForTheEvulz he likes tormenting them.]] He wasn't [[IHaveYouKnowMyPretty trying to molest Leia]], just creep her out and demean her.

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The Twi'leks are there mainly to seem impressive/give morale for his men, and because [[ForTheEvulz he likes tormenting them.]] He wasn't [[IHaveYouKnowMyPretty trying to molest Leia]], just creep her out and demean her.her.

[[WMG: Ewoks are a LostColony of Wookies.]]
George supposedly wanted the ewoks to be wookies originally but changed his mind given that wookies are technologically capable. What if we split the difference and say ewoks are a wookie subspecies whose ancestors crashed on Endor thousands of years ago. The physiological differences can be attributed to environmental factors. Given the existence of human subspecies in Star Wars, it's not without precedent.
10th Apr '16 12:31:57 PM Allronix
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* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' adds a little weight to this. You can recruit an Ewok mercenary named Treek, and Treek admits she sees no problem with eating a defeated (sentient) enemy, even admitting she would like to "try" roasted Rodian sometime. The way she and her people see it, Nature was nice enough to put meat in their traps, and it would be rude not to tuck in.




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* As we see in the Ewok movies and cartoon series, Endor has a lot of big nasty predators. Big by ''human'' standards. Those vicious little teddy bears HadToBeSharp and became apex predators of their homeworld.
* ''{{VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic}}'' players get a closer look at Ewok badassery via Treek. She can push aside humanoids twice her size, has an array of primitive, but vicious and effective, tools for hunting, killed the crew of the crashed ship to get off Endor, and was so badass that ''Mandalorian Clan Ordo'' decided she was worthy to fight with them. And that's just one Ewok hunter. The Heroes of Yavin recruited a small army of Treeks and handed the Imps their asses.
18th Mar '16 9:12:27 PM psionycx
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* Although Sith being ''extremely'' rare, using confrontations with them as a test for becoming a full-Jedi would not be feasible. In ''The Phantom Menace'' the Jedi Council was flat-out shocked by the implication that Darth Maul was an actual Sith even with Qui-Gon's account. It was put to Luke as a test because they had always intended to use Luke as their assassin to get to Vader and Palpatine, and they needed to keep him motivated.
18th Mar '16 9:01:39 PM psionycx
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*** Vader was very much a FrontlineGeneral and, as seen in both ''A New Hope'' and ''The Empire Strikes Back'', was more than willing to do ''extremely'' risky stuff like going out to fight in a TIE Fighter (in which he could be blown up just like anyone else) or leading troops into a Rebel base (which astonishingly did not have any booby traps left behind). It was also clearly shown in ''A New Hope'' that Vader would specifically order any troops to stay out of his way in the event that an opportunity for a rematch with Obi-Wan presented itself. His wounded pride would ''not'' allow him to hide behind defenses in that scenario. Luring him into a fight would actually be pretty easy. Palpatine would be harder, but Yoda managed to assault him in his office in ''Revenge of the Sith''. What is being forgotten here is that the Rebel Alliance existed by this point and would have been ''thrilled'' to have two of the Old Republic's most prominent Jedi-Generals among their ranks! The argument that Obi-Wan and Yoda were avoiding any confrontations because they might not survive them only reinforces the impression of cowardice. After all, they assumed the Luke would somehow manage to find his way into the Emperor's presence eventually and kill him.
3rd Mar '16 7:35:08 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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[[WMG: Jabba doesn't lust after humanoid females.]]
The Twi'leks are there mainly to seem impressive/give morale for his men, and because [[ForTheEvulz he likes tormenting them.]] He wasn't [[IHaveYouKnowMyPretty trying to molest Leia]], just creep her out and demean her.
16th Feb '16 9:22:37 PM julietvalcouer
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** The writers of Series/StarWarsRebels seem to be trying to weasel-word their way around this one. Both Kanan and Ahsoka disclaim being entitled to call themselves Jedi (Ahsoka even tells Kanan ''he'' is more entitled to the name than she is, as he simply had his training cut off by Order 66, while she actively quit the Order. Between that and bringing in other types of Force philosophies, they may be leaving a door open for Kanan and Ezra, at least, to survive, though her story connection to Anakin and his now knowing she's alive may mean Ahsoka's still doomed.
27th Dec '15 8:59:48 AM LEDbullet
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[[WMG: The previous film's Leia/Luke kiss was a NoSparks moment]]
As soon as Obi-wan offers some kind of explanation for how Luke could possibly have a long-lost sister, he instantly knows who it is. Similarly, as soon as Luke explains this to Leia, she reveals that she always knew something was up. The kiss on Hoth seems like a funny retrospective moment for siblings, but both of them are secretly thinking "something didn't feel right about this at all..." Basically, they had a growing bond ever since the Death Star, and discovered on Hoth, in the worst, most awkward possible way, that it wasn't romantic.
25th Dec '15 9:32:29 PM modgethanc
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* Alternatively, (and I'm not to well-read in the EU, so take this with a grain of salt), if Yoda is indeed the last of the Jedi's Council and the Jedi Council is ruling body it seems to be, then Yoda's statement can be taken as a dissolution of the old Jedi Order, and a prosciption for Luke to create a new one. My evidence for this is that Luke does found a new Jedi Order, on Yavin 4, rather than the ancient Jedi temple of the old Order on Coruscant. Moreover, Luke rejects the philosophy of the old Jedi Order: he redeems the Sith Lord Darth Vader, rather than killing him as the two members of the old Jedi Order would have/told him to/tried to do(I count leaving someone without limbs to die on the edge of a pyroclastic flow, after they've caught fire, as trying to kill them).

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* Alternatively, (and I'm not to well-read in the EU, so take this with a grain of salt), if Yoda is indeed the last of the Jedi's Council and the Jedi Council is ruling body it seems to be, then Yoda's statement can be taken as a dissolution of the old Jedi Order, and a prosciption prescription for Luke to create a new one. My evidence for this is that Luke does found a new Jedi Order, on Yavin 4, rather than the ancient Jedi temple of the old Order on Coruscant. Moreover, Luke rejects the philosophy of the old Jedi Order: he redeems the Sith Lord Darth Vader, rather than killing him as the two members of the old Jedi Order would have/told him to/tried to do(I do (I count leaving someone without limbs to die on the edge of a pyroclastic flow, after they've caught fire, as trying to kill them).




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** Let's go back to the idea that Obi-Wan and/or Yoda could have taken on the Sith again. Putting aside the question of whether one of them or both of them should go, how are they going to get to them? Palpatine is bound to be well-protected in his palace on Coruscant (no way is he letting Yoda sneak in like he did last time) and is probably surrounded by guards and troops, security systems, you name it, ''and'' the whole planet is protected by the Imperial navy. So that's a non-starter right there. Vader is usually onboard the ''Executor'' or something, so he might be a little easier to get to. They could maybe sneak through the ship like Anakin and Obi-Wan did to rescue Palpatine in Episode III, but a Super Star Destroyer full of human soldiers is bound to be more difficult than a much smaller ship full of dumb droids. But even if they did get to Vader and/or Palpatine, then what? If they succeeded in killing them, they would have to fight their way out. If one or both of them died in the attempt, then there would be nobody to train Luke or any other potential Jedi, and the Jedi Order would be finished. As the last two living Jedi, ensuring the continuation of the Order is a lot more important in the long run than killing two Sith Lords. Their plan to train Anakin's children made a lot of sense since they had the potential to become as powerful or maybe even more powerful than Vader and Palpatine. The plan just didn't work out the way they expected because a) Obi-Wan had to sacrifice himself so Luke could escape the Death Star and b) Luke was an impulsive idiot and left Yoda before he was done his training.



In ''RevengeOfTheSith'', when Mace and several other Jedi came up to his office to arrest him, he had his lightsaber pop out of some kind of springloaded sleave holster and went on the attack. It would hardly be a stretch of the imagination for him to still use that lightsaber and its rig, since he would be able to defend himself if a would-be assassin defeated his elite bodyguards (Vader can't be at his side all the time, you know). Why he didn't whip it out and use it is the real puzzler though...

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In ''RevengeOfTheSith'', when Mace and several other Jedi came up to his office to arrest him, he had his lightsaber pop out of some kind of springloaded sleave sleeve holster and went on the attack. It would hardly be a stretch of the imagination for him to still use that lightsaber and its rig, since he would be able to defend himself if a would-be assassin defeated his elite bodyguards (Vader can't be at his side all the time, you know). Why he didn't whip it out and use it is the real puzzler though...



** There is some TruthInTelevision to this sort of thing: it's called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic secual attraction]].

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** There is some TruthInTelevision to this sort of thing: it's called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic secual sexual attraction]].
17th Dec '15 5:40:57 AM LorienTheYounger
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The only reason they joined a war they had no stake in is because they thought C-3PO was a god. They probably won't be happy to learn that they fought and died on the word of something that rolled off an assembly line.

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The only reason they joined a war they had no stake in is because they thought C-3PO was a god. They probably won't be happy to learn that they fought and died on the word of something that rolled off an assembly line.line.

[[WMG: Chewbacca filled Han in about Lando joining the Rebels while they were locked in the cell together in Jabba's palace.]]
That's why Han is immediately friendly to Lando when they meet again afterwards, rather than still being mad about the betraying-him-to-Vader thing.
23rd Nov '15 4:26:43 PM TheLyniezian
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** There is some TruthInTelevision to this sort of thing: it's called [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction genetic secual attraction]].
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