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[[WMG: Gen Urobuchi is a fan of ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''.]]
Kyubey is quite similar to a Daedra due to his immortality, and he can manipulate Soul Gems (both the ''Madoka'' kind and the ''TES'' kind. Also, Witch barriers are like [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Gates]].
He ''might'' have had a bit of a hand in developing ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', due to some vague similarities (the protagonists consume the souls of their own kind, and utilize time travel). Also, ''Dawnguard'' introduced its own AwfulTruth about Soul Gems.
Kyubey is quite similar to a Daedra due to his immortality, and he can manipulate Soul Gems (both the ''Madoka'' kind and the ''TES'' kind. Also, Witch barriers are like [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Gates]].
He ''might'' have had a bit of a hand in developing ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', due to some vague similarities (the protagonists consume the souls of their own kind, and utilize time travel). Also, ''Dawnguard'' introduced its own AwfulTruth about Soul Gems.
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* Expanding on that theory: Homura ''is'' that secret daughter. One of the anthologies has an AU story where the girls are in the drama club and want to write a MagicalGirl story. Homura writes twelve extremely depressing chapters in one night (''exactly'' like Urobuchi's script, save for the ending), much to the dismay of the other girls.
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* Expanding on that theory: Homura ''is'' that secret daughter. One of the anthologies has an AU story where the girls are in the drama club and want to write a MagicalGirl story. story. Homura writes twelve extremely depressing chapters in one night (''exactly'' like Urobuchi's script, save for the ending), much to the dismay of the other girls.
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* Expanding on that theory: Homura ''is'' that secret daughter. One of the anthologies has an AU story where the girls are in the drama club and want to write a MagicalGirl story. Homura writes twelve extremely depressing chapters in one night, much to the dismay of the other girls.
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* Expanding on that theory: Homura ''is'' that secret daughter. One of the anthologies has an AU story where the girls are in the drama club and want to write a MagicalGirl story. story. Homura writes twelve extremely depressing chapters in one night, night (''exactly'' like Urobuchi's script, save for the ending), much to the dismay of the other girls.
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* Expanding on that theory: Homura ''is'' that secret daughter. One of the anthologies has an AU story where the girls are in the drama club and want to write a MagicalGirl story. Homura writes twelve extremely depressing chapters in one night, much to the dismay of the other girls.
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...and seven drinks after the bartender tells them there's a five-drink minimum for setting up bad DeadBabyComedy jokes, Urobuchi makes a bet to Anno and the bartender that he can beat Anno at making THE most depressing anime ever.
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...and seven drinks after the bartender tells them there's a five-drink minimum for setting up bad DeadBabyComedy BlackComedy jokes, Urobuchi makes a bet to Anno and the bartender that he can beat Anno at making THE most depressing anime ever.
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[[WMG: Homura is an AU GhostRider.]]
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[[WMG: Homura is an AU GhostRider.Comicbook/GhostRider.]]
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* Here is another song suited for the series: [[spoiler: [[Film/RockyHorrorPictureShow time warp]] ]].
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** [[Manga/PuellaMagiKazumiMagica [[Manga/PuellaMagiKazumiMagica: Satomi]] Manga/TokyoMewMew. She has a {{Catgirl}} outfit and is in a series with a food motif.
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confirmed. People have also suggested that Anime/PrettyCure may reconstruct the genre.
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They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks about with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen Gen's insane knoledge of magical girls.
[[WMG: We now have holy quartet of WMGs.]]
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They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks about with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen one explain Gen's insane knoledge knowledge of magical girls.
[[WMG: We now have holy quartet ofWMGs.wild mass guesses.]]
[[WMG: We now have holy quartet of
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** A Sailor Moon remake has since been confirmed.
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** FYI, this was not my intention when I wrote the theory about ''Series/That70'sShow on the previous page. I just noticed parallels between Homura's room and Eric's basement.
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They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen Gen's insane knoledge of magical girls.
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They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks about with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen Gen's insane knoledge of magical girls. \n
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Along with instrumentality, Haruhi, and time lords, everyone is now a magical girl contracted to kyubey.
[[WMG: We now have holy quartet of WMGs.]]
Along with instrumentality, Haruhi, and time lords, everyone is now a magical girl contracted to kyubey.
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*** Fair enough. Perhaps a better thing to ponder that I haven't wondered about till now is, how many other planets are those wraiths on anyways?
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They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen Gen's insane knoledge of magical girls.
They helped him with the screenplay in order increase there allowance, based it off of gossip at there school, and helped to get classmates to stop asking them what daddy talks with Hideaki Anno and Naoko Takeuchi during lunch breaks. How else could explen Gen's insane knoledge of magical girls.
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*** So, you're basically saying that the Incubators will only bail on humanity once they are completely and irrevocably fucked (which, as the other person said, isn't too likely in Homura's lifetime). And let's go with the "half-eaten sandwich" logic - why would Kyubey suddenly stop milking humans for all the possible energy that they can yield (which is potentially infinite)?
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*** So, you're basically saying that the Incubators will only bail on humanity once they are completely and irrevocably fucked (which, as the other person said, isn't too likely in Homura's lifetime).lifetime or beyond). And let's go with the "half-eaten sandwich" logic - why would Kyubey suddenly stop milking humans for all the possible energy that they can yield (which is potentially infinite)?
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*** So, you're basically saying that the Incubators will only bail on humanity once they are completely and irrevocably fucked (which, as the other person said, isn't too likely in Homura's lifetime). And let's go with the "half-eaten sandwich" logic - why would Kyubey suddenly stop milking humans for all the possible energy that they can yield (which is potentially infinite)?
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**** I removed both bits on the WordOfGod because I checked and misremembered it and decided to remove it from my thing because I don't want to leave around WMG I made based on remembering author details, and I removed it from you comment because some other people would notice there was a reply to something that didn't seem to be there.
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** Tell that to Kyubey, because he in the normal timeline said he had a quota would decide a world destroying witch wasn't his problem if he filled it, and we don't see anything saying he wouldn't do the same here.
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* If I were an Incubator, I would actively support humanity until they go extinct, to collect as much grief as possible. I wouldn't leave them to die. It's only logical. So please get off your depressants, for everyone's sake.
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* [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/856940/hair_ribbon-kaname_madoka-kyuubee-leg_hug-mahou_sh Look at this]] (Ads NSFW) It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]
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* [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/856940/hair_ribbon-kaname_madoka-kyuubee-leg_hug-mahou_sh Look at this]] (Ads NSFW) this It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]
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Have you ever tried to buy or lease a car? They can get REALLY pushy. Also, with Homura following him around, he's probably [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/841811/ really hurtin' for new contracts]].
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Have you ever tried to buy or lease a car? They can get REALLY pushy. Also, with Homura following him around, he's probably [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/841811/ really hurtin' for new contracts]].
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* ItGetsWorse. [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/856940/hair_ribbon-kaname_madoka-kyuubee-leg_hug-mahou_sh Look at this]] (Ads NSFW) It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]
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*** It's relevant because it means your 'Word of God' doesn't apply to the anime continuity, unless you can show otherwise. I said that before, and you edited that out of my original comment, which was rude. Please don't do that, and just show me where you're getting this "Word of God" for the anime. Also, Homura being with Madoka doesn't mean that Homura failed in any capacity; she'll have to die eventually, she's not immortal. She could've succeeded at absolutely every challenge in her path and still have died. Humanity doesn't end if Homura dies, and that desert isn't even post-apocalyptic. The script board for it only describes that desert as "Not Japan." Homura could be in Cairo for all we know.
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Despite what the show tries to paint its ending, it's SadButTrue. Kyubey is going to eventually leave the Earth when he reaches his quota and we'll be worse off than before because the number magical girls will reach an end and the wraiths will keep coming. Hell, the final scene shows Humora out in a desert fighting wraiths and WordOfGod is that she died there. This show is depressing even when it's trying to be uplifting.
* WordofGod says no such thing. The manga takes that route but it also has other significant differents from the anime's continuity.
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Despite what the show tries to paint its ending, it's SadButTrue. Kyubey is going to eventually leave the Earth when he reaches his quota and we'll be worse off than before because the number magical girls will reach an end and the wraiths will keep coming. Hell, the final scene shows Humora out in a desert fighting wraiths and WordOfGod is with the likelihood that she'll fade away even if she died there.wins, the scene implies everybody else is dead, and the desert scene likely means the wraiths devastated the planet. This show is depressing even when it's trying to be uplifting.
*WordofGod says no such thing. The manga takes that route but it also has other significant differents from the anime's continuity.
** How is that even relevant? I wasn't talking about the manga. And so what if Homura is with Madoka after that scene, that means that she tried and failed to defend humanity and adds to what I said above, even in Madoka' new timeline, we're still dead.
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** How is that even relevant? I wasn't talking about the manga. And so what if Homura is with Madoka after that scene, that means that she tried and failed to defend humanity and adds to what I said above, even in Madoka' new timeline, we're still dead.
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* WordofGod says no such thing. The manga takes that route but it also has other significant differents from the anime's continuity.
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** But Kyubey planned to let the Earth get destroyed, which is utterly counterproductive to the Reapers' plans.
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Despite what the show tries to paint its ending, it's SadButTrue. Kyubey is going to eventually leave the Earth when he reaches his quota and we'll be worse off than before because the number magical girls will reach an end and the wraiths will keep coming. Hell, the final scene shows Humora out in a desert fighting wraiths and WordOfGod is that she died there. This show is depressing even when it's trying to be uplifting.
Despite what the show tries to paint its ending, it's SadButTrue. Kyubey is going to eventually leave the Earth when he reaches his quota and we'll be worse off than before because the number magical girls will reach an end and the wraiths will keep coming. Hell, the final scene shows Humora out in a desert fighting wraiths and WordOfGod is that she died there. This show is depressing even when it's trying to be uplifting.
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* And Witches and their barriers are effectively allegories for toxic waste/nuclear exclusion sites like Love Canal or (wait for it) Fukushima.
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->''Younger artists are very susceptible to this trope. This is probably one of the reasons labels prefer younger artists: they're less well-versed in the ways of the business and easier to control. And it's likely the reason the industry focus on younger listeners. Older music buyers/listeners ''already know'' what they like and don't like, where as younger listeners [[GullibleLemmings can be ]]''[[GullibleLemmings told ]]''[[GullibleLemmings what to like]].''
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->''Younger artists are very susceptible to this trope. This is probably one of the reasons labels prefer younger artists: they're less well-versed in the ways of the business and easier to control. And it's likely the reason the industry focus on younger listeners. Older music buyers/listeners ''already know'' what they like and don't like, where as younger listeners [[GullibleLemmings can be ]]''[[GullibleLemmings told ]]''[[GullibleLemmings what to like]].''
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[[WMG: It's all planned by a really [[CompleteMonster sadistic]] [[GodIsEvil cosmic being]].]]
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Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple CompleteMonster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.
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Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple CompleteMonster, monster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.
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*** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]] Also, the lyrics to Moonlight Legend (the original Japanese theme song) and the opening for the English dub of Sailor Moon describes Homura pretty well.
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*** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]] Also, the lyrics to Moonlight Legend (the original Japanese theme song) and the opening for the English dub of Sailor Moon describes describe Homura pretty well.
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*** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]] Also, the opening for the English dub of Sailor Moon describes Homura pretty well.
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*** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]] Also, the lyrics to Moonlight Legend (the original Japanese theme song) and the opening for the English dub of Sailor Moon describes Homura pretty well.
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** Homura: Manga/SailorMoon, perhaps [[spoiler: (Sailor Pluto's powers)]]. And maybe a bit of [[TokyoMewMew Zakuro's]] personality, [[spoiler: after who knows how many timelines]].
** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]]
** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]]
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** Homura: Manga/SailorMoon, perhaps [[spoiler: (Sailor Pluto's powers)]]. And maybe a bit of [[TokyoMewMew [[Manga/TokyoMewMew Zakuro's]] personality, [[spoiler: after who knows how many timelines]].
** *** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]]anyone?]] Also, the opening for the English dub of Sailor Moon describes Homura pretty well.
**** [[spoiler: Ironically, VideoGame/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaPortable shows the witch forms of all the main characters, and Homura is the only one whose witch form does not share a name with a celestial object. Her witch card refers to her as "the mortal world witch", so it is possible that just as the Sailor Senshi protect individual celestial objects, Homura protects the mortal world. Episode 12 supports the concept that Homura is supposed to protect the moral world, while Madoka takes care of the spirit world, or afterlife.]]
**** [[spoiler: Ironically, VideoGame/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaPortable shows the witch forms of all the main characters, and Homura is the only one whose witch form does not share a name with a celestial object. Her witch card refers to her as "the mortal world witch", so it is possible that just as the Sailor Senshi protect individual celestial objects, Homura protects the mortal world. Episode 12 supports the concept that Homura is supposed to protect the moral world, while Madoka takes care of the spirit world, or afterlife.]]
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** [[Manga/PuellaMagiKazumiMagica Satomi]] Manga/TokyoMewMew. She has a {{Catgirl}} outfit and is in a series with a food motif.
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AyaHirano and MichaelJackson are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' or other cheerful TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life (TypeCasting, SlaveToPR, ArtistDisillusionment, being virtually [[UnwittingPawn whored out all the time]] by {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s who [[ExecutiveMeddling always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[NeverLiveItDown eternal]] [[DarthWiki/FallenCreator damnation]] by the FanDumb, not even being able to avoid said eternal damnation due to accusations about scandals...) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).
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->''[[MemeticMutation Deny the obvious. Uphold the inane.]]''
The page has grown big enough to start corrupting the wiki software. Confirmed and Jossed theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica here]]. Unconfirmed theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica2 here.]] Crossover theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica3 here]].
!Miscellaneous theories
Odd stuff, symbolism, meta concepts, etc.
Anything not directly story related, and/or things we'll never be able to confirm.
[[WMG: Madoka broadcast will skip one week to make series end on April 30 instead of 24.]]
In Madoka the big finale will happen on Walpurgis Night. And Walpurgis Night is April 30.
* They might be able to make a 13th episode or do the same thing like what they did to ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.
** [[spoiler:Semi-]][[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-16/this-week-madoka-magica-not-aired-in-self-restraint CON]][[http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/15/madoka-ep-11-not-airing-this-week/ FIRMED]]. [[spoiler:[[FlatWhat What]].]]
* Except that this puts the probably end-date at March 31.
* Yeah, the series is supposed to end in March, not April. Speaking of which, due to timezones it might be April 1st in Japan when it airs. AprilFools? Keeping it in Meta because they might release a bonus episode on April 30th, who knows?
** Very unlikely, but since episode 11 was delayed again...
*** If they delay the final episode until the Walpurgis Night I will be scared. Coincidence, yeah right.
* It's going to air April 21. It's...pretty close.
* It aired on Good Friday 2011. Madoka Died For Your Sins!
[[WMG:The whole series is an experiment]]
Specifically, an experiment on writing a show based on internet theories. They started out with character designs and a general concept and direction, dropped hints that it would be an extremely dark show (the leak about Urobuchi Gen's involvment was no accident), and then let the theorists go to town. They keep a close eye on all the forums and wikis that are examining the show, take the theories they like best, and use them. Heck, just look at all the theories that have been confirmed/lent credence, from this page alone!:
* Kyuubey really might be evil (this was one of the very first theories here, appearing shortly after the first episode aired).
* Witches are [[spoiler:Fallen Mahou Shoujo]].
* Sayaka becomes a [[spoiler:Witch]].
* Homura is a ''[[WMG/TimeLord Time Lor]]''- I mean Traveler, of all things (Another episode 1 theory).
After all, what better resource is there than the audience's imagination?
A popular 4 koma gag comic in Japan's internet community involves QB as a used car salesman, desperately trying to get people to sign up for contracts because his bosses are on him to meet his quota. In episode 10, one of the things he specifically mentions is that [[spoiler: he doesn't care what happens to Earth, which will likely be destroyed by the rampaging super-witch created by Walpurgis Night, as long as he fills his quota.]] Uh...
[[WMG: Has anyone noticed...]]
...that Madoka's necklace in the main page artwork bears a striking resemblance to Kyouko's soul gem? Thats a whole other EpilepticTree right there...
* ItGetsWorse. [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/856940/hair_ribbon-kaname_madoka-kyuubee-leg_hug-mahou_sh Look at this]] (Ads NSFW) It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]
[[WMG:Each magical girl is a representative of another magical girl show]]
Not an outright expy, but more of a conglomeration and may or may not be corrupted somehow. For example, Kyouko Sakura says this to Sayaka: "I told you and I hit you, but you still don't get it", and before that tells her to take a chill pill. This is pretty much [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha's]] [[DefeatMeansFriendship Modus Operandi]]. On a more superficial level, she also wields a pole-arm, which can break into chain-connected segments simultaneously bearing similarities to Raising Heart and Levantine.
* I can see it happening... But not only to a series. To many of them, perhaps.
** Mami: Might be KamikazeKaitouJeanne, although one could say she took the "Kamikaze" part a little too literally.
** Sayaka: MagicKnightRayearth, perhaps? Has the whole sword wielding thing, not to mention the "I can't be with my beloved one" part...
** Homura: Manga/SailorMoon, perhaps [[spoiler: (Sailor Pluto's powers)]]. And maybe a bit of [[TokyoMewMew Zakuro's]] personality, [[spoiler: after who knows how many timelines]].
** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]]
** Kyoko: As you said, Nanoha. And maybe a bit of SaintTail as well (even the clothes are a bit similar, not to mention the whole Catholic thing going on).
** Madoka: A reversed Manga/CardcaptorSakura (Sakura must be a magical girl to prevent a terrible thing; Madoka must ''not'' become one to do so). Not to mention that I couldn't be the only one to see similarities between her clothes and the ones Sakura uses in all openings.
** Oriko and Kirika: The one in black is the one that fights while the one in white is the one who sits in the sidelines. This fighting style is pretty much like FutariWaPrettyCure.
*** Kirika's last name is Kure, which contributes to this hypothesis.
** [[PuellaMagiKazumiMagica Kazumi]]: SugarSugarRune. She has a CuteWitch magical girl outfit and a food motif.
[[WMG: Conversely, all witches who appear are representing girls from different animes.]]
Said animes being not necessarily in the mahou shoujo genre.
* Charlotte is related to Creator/CartoonNetwork, I believe.
** Specifically ''FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''. Tell me her second from doesn't look like an Imaginary Friend.
[[WMG: Puella Magi Madoka Magica takes place before every Magical Girl show ever.]]
Originally, every magical girl contract in every universe was a DealWithTheDevil - it only makes sense for Madoka's story to have to take place before all of them. Also reinforces the "Madoka = Jesus[=/=]Goddess of Magical Girls" concept.
[[WMG: The random corruption in the CypherLanguage isn't random.]]
The cypher language has random errors in it, possibly to make reading it harder. Or, perhaps, it's a longer message that's playing out through the episodes, designed to be read at the end.
[[WMG: Someone will give Kyubey a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.]]
Don't we all want this to happen? Anyway, in the dream at the start of the series, Madoka gives Kyubey an angry/determined look just before it ends. If the WMG that she ''won't'' accept a contract is true, she may be gearing up to deliver one of these.
[[WMG: The series will eventually be followed with a {{Reconstruction}} of the MagicalGirl genre.]]
People have compared this to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' so much, it's only natural that we'll some day see its ''GurrenLagann''. And while the genre has been deconstructed several times before, to my knowledge there's never been a reconstruction, at least one popular enough to be widely known.
* Perhaps the second season of ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt''? Or perhaps a ''Manga/SailorMoon'' remake? It has to be tons of badass, either way.
** Sort of confirmed, since Madoka reconstructs the world so that despair now forms demons instead of turning girls into Witches. The sequence is even somewhat similar to the Third Impact sequence from ''End of Evangelion''.
[[WMG:Madoka Magica is an Allegory of Drug Addiction]]
A little guy comes and offers the girls an offer of a great pleasure. The catch is, once they are in, they can't get out, and they will be forced to do tricks for him, with death being the only apparent exit. They also need to constantly find more and more of these "Grief Seeds" to survive. They ''fight'' each other to obtain them. Not to mention that when in the proccess of extracting these "seeds" they find themselves in such a [[AcidTripDimension bizarre space (or state of consciousness)]].
[[FanNickname Homuhomu]], an already addict, comes and tries to warn Madoka about not getting into it if she cares about her life and family. Some think it is because this would reduce the amount of narcotics she can acquire, but maybe it is really because she doesn't want others to suffer her same fate. She tries to shoot down the dealer, Kyubey, before it's too late. But the girls find him and get interested in the thing after a little try. They meet Mami, a "veteran" in this and tries to turn them in as well. She started consuming them because she "had no choice", she had no family, she was alone and depressed. It "saved her life". What was the result of having this way of life for so long? [[spoiler: Her death. The drug itself "consumed" her. It "destroyed" her head]].
Horrified, the girls doubt. But Sayaka, who has her own problems, becomes more and more interested. Kyubey is constantly trying to make Madoka turn in; as to what the potential about her he is talking about means, I'm not really sure yet. When Kyouko comes, she is not really interested in stopping the death of the innocent lives all the narcotrafic or the drugs themselves cause. More for her.
However, later they find out just how much these things deteriorate their bodies, to the point of [[spoiler:Kyouko pointing out they have become something like zombies]] in episode 6, and even she is disturbed. Sayaka [[spoiler:collapses when her "stuff" is taken away from her]]. They really can't go on without it.
This series makes a lot more sense if you substituted “pimp” for “Kyubey,” “drugs” for “grief seed,” “crack whore” for “puella magi,” and “cocaine-fueled orgasmic high” for “wish.”
So, maybe now you will think differently next time you see these girls [[UnusualEuphemism "fighting witches"]].
* [[MadeOfWin THIS.]]
** Check out the {{PoisonOakEpilepticTree|s}} "''Madoka'' is one giant drug trip." Kyubey is a pale, balding {{Ephebophile}} with red eyes.
[[WMG: The witch in episode 4...]]
[[spoiler: Was OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] WHITE RAT!
* Oh and apparently her name MIGHT be "Elly Kirsten"
* Confirmed, I guess, according to the cards, Elly is Hikkimori witch.
[[WMG: Kyubey works on commission.]]
Have you ever tried to buy or lease a car? They can get REALLY pushy. Also, with Homura following him around, he's probably [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/841811/ really hurtin' for new contracts]].
[[WMG: [[EarnYourHappyEnding Madoka's wish will restore everything to normal to before they met Kyubei]]]]
OPTIONAL: However it will go horribly wrong.
[[WMG: Each witch is an Allegory of the Seven Deadly Sins.]]
It is now known that witches are born from negative emotions [[spoiler:when Magical Girls become corrupted]]. Perhaps the form they take as a witch is based on their greatest sin [[spoiler: as a human being]].
* Gertrud represents either Pride or Lust
* Charlotte represents Gluttony.
* Elly represents Sloth
* Elsa Maria represents Pride or Wrath
* [[spoiler: Sayaka/Oktavia von Seckendorff represents Wrath or Envy]].
** Since the [[spoiler:mermaid in the original Andersen tale]] was supposed to represent lust, perhaps [[spoiler:Oktavia]] is lust and Gertrud pride?
[[WMG: Kyubey tastes like marshmallows]]
[[{{Squick}} You know you want it to be true.]]
* [[http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51254552.html Confirmed?]]
[[WMG: Morning Rescue...]]
Will break the Walls of Reality and rescue Madoka and everyone else. Then everyone will enjoy a nice cold glass of LCL.
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY1w4NNX-Y Confirmed?]]
[[WMG: All the confirmed WildMassGuessing in this page were written by people who made a contract with QB]]
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[[WMG: QB is a wife-/mate-beater.]]
... Yeah, I know this is kinda DudeNotFunny, but {{I Always Wanted To Say| That}} [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 "Wishes? You know who gives wishes? Blokes what bludgeon their wives to death with a golf trophy."]]
[[WMG: It's all planned by a really [[CompleteMonster sadistic]] [[GodIsEvil cosmic being]].]]
Kyubei is just a vessel for it.
[[WMG: Urobuchi being the writer was a RedHerring]]
So that nobody would notice the real one. The real writer will be [[MindFuck revealed to be]] [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Ryukishi07]], and the plot was caused by Bernkastel's boredom as a WMG above mentioned.
[[WMG: [[DudeNotFunny Japan's 9.0 magnitude earthquake was caused by the coming of the Walpurgis Night]]]]
Madoka's power is enough to [[InfiniteCrisis Punch Reality]]
* [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Translated_Official_Documents#Earthquake_reactions Confirmed by Word of God?]]
* TooSoon, man.
** You should stay away from /a/, then. It's even parts this joke, ''TokyoMagnitude8'' jokes, and complaints about how earthquake reports are going to fill the screen for the rest of the season.
* Alternatively, caused by Homura in some desperate attempt to stave off the inevitable.
[[WMG: Gen Urobuchi is an Incubator]]
In a similar vein, Puella Magi Madoka Magica is an extremely efficient emotional energy collection mechanism. Why spend the effort to draw energy from a couple of little girls at a time, when you can get energy from a much wider range through television? The reason why he tried to hide his involvement was just to heighten the hope we'd all feel to boost the effects of the slow dive into despair.
* [[LyingCreator It]] [[TrollingCreator all]] makes sense now! It all makes sense!
* It goes further. He harvests the disproportionate nerdrage that results from his trolling. One simple anime spawns a massive fan effort that generates more emotions and even more nerdrage in a cascade of entropy-defying disproportionate reactions, thus ensuring that he won't even need to really make little girls suffer when a cascading avalanche of fan reactions produces infinitely more efficient energy. Now that is true genius.
[[WMG: Kyuubei is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon Maxwell's Demon.]]]]
What if you could summon a demon to negate entropy?
[[WMG: Homura is an AU GhostRider.]]
If QB is Mephisto...
* [[OlderThanTheyThink or you know]], {{Faust}}.
** Given that Madoka's Witch form is Gretchen, the name of the woman Mephisto tries to get Faust to corrupt; it's apparently Homura who is Faust.
[[WMG: There will be an AMV of [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog "Friends on the Other Side"]].]]
Listen to it! Doesn't it fit Kyubey?
* You want a song that fits Kyubey? ''[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Poor Unfortunate Souls]]''.
** Aww man , you beat me to it.
[[WMG: The staff will end up releasing episode 11 in late March, and episode 12 on April 1.]]
Then they get an excuse to make some weird GainaxEnding and say "Haha! April Fools'!"
* With no episode 11 in sight, I believe this one is {{Jossed}} at this point.
[[WMG: Episodes 11 and 12, and the ending of Madoka altogether, will be {{Bowdlerized}}.]]
As to not offend victims of the Earthquake & Tsunami in Japan. This would explain the delay of Episodes 11 and 12. Even if they aren't Bowdlerized by SHAFT, they still could be watered down [[ExecutiveMeddling by the stations broadcasting Madoka.]]
* Semi-confirmed in that this was why the delay kept getting extended: the channels refused to broadcast something of that nature. Either they've gotten around it, or they Bowdlerized it (but chances are the Nico broadcast will probably be untouched).
[[WMG: Fans will be dissapointed by the finale]]
* Jossed, thankfully. By and large, the finale was very well-received.
[[WMG: SHAFT will make up for the delay somehow]]
[[WMG: [[AuthorAvatar Urobuchi is Kyubey]] and he is trying to [[spoiler:cure himself.]]]]
Or rather, Kyubey, entropy, and the entire despair-powered CosmicHorrorStory universe are projections of the "tragedy syndrome" from Urobuchi's [[Quotes/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica afterword]] of Fate/Zero from which Magica draws from. He is the [[NietzscheWannabe part of himself]] that was taken over by the pessimistic-yet-realistic "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids" philosophy, making him no longer comprehend happy endings and become a bearer of the plague to his worlds. But while creating some of the darkest scenarios possible, he is also littering them with [[ChekhovsArmoury the means]] to turn things around. Not easily or without things worsening first, which is why Homura, who can represent his "true Self" trapped between hope and despair, has the ability to [[spoiler:keep trying]].
Mami's wish was likely [[spoiler:to live, so she has an unshown ability to survive her scenario so long as her Soul Gem is intact long enough]]. Kyouko's was to [[spoiler:make people listen to words of salvation, where if she [[CantSpitItOut calls out]] to Witch!Sayaka herself, she can reach her]]. With each attempt, Madoka's [[spoiler:potential and memories of the previous timelines grow, and with it the scale of her wish. If being consumed by corruption is the magical girls' own equivalent of entropy, she will become something that can violate that rule.]] Homura has yet to completely outgrow being a [[spoiler:ShrinkingViolet, and much of the senseless deaths are a result of PoorCommunicationKills where she [[YouHaveToBelieveMe cannot convince anyone]]. Should she overcome her flaw or Madoka remember the alternate events, the stage will be set for a time loop that [[DeconReconSwitch lets them win.]]]] Possibly through a wish as simple as [[spoiler:"I wish Kyubey could [[HeelFaceTurn understand]]." ]]
With Episode 12, aka Urobuchi's happiest ending, this guess might just be likely.
Or these are all [[HopeSpot hope spots]] for the audience.
[[WMG: The broadcast delay was done to re-animate the first section of episode 11.]]
During the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake, some of the creators of the show tweeted "It's Walpurgis Niiight~!" and such, suggesting in-show that the appearance of the Walpurgis would cause some sort of earthquake. This would also explain why the official explaination for the delay was "self-restraint" -- they realised it would be very cheap of them to use a massive earthquake in light of the tragedy and the first half of episode 11 was re-animated to be a storm rather than a quake.
[[WMG: ''Madoka Magica'' [[GreenAesop promotes the use of clean, renewable energy sources]].]]
Think about it for a second. [[spoiler:The incubators need energy. Their method to obtain it is harvesting the black despair of magical girls turned into witches. This causes damage, in the form of everyone suffering through the whole process. When Madoka wishes that witches are no more, she instead opts for a system which produces somewhat less energy, but causes less suffering all over universe.]]
[[spoiler:Now, change 'suffering' for 'pollution.' You can't deny that it sorta makes sense, don't you think?]]
Gen, you MagnificentBastard! Everything has gone '''[[Manga/DeathNote exactly as you planned]]'''!
* It's funny, I came to this page ''exactly'' to add this. Goddammit, that makes this theory look more true...
* What makes this even better is the windmills contrasting with the oil rigs in and around the city. Alternative energy was the theme ''the entire time''.
[[WMG: Homura saves Amy [[spoiler:in every timeline that Madoka doesn't]] ]]
As a reflection of what Madoka means to her, Homura saves [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-RL9VpZXw Amy]] ([[spoiler:The cat in the OT]]), in spite of everything else going on.
[[WMG: The Incubators were created by the [[MassEffect Reapers]].]]
If we take Episode 11 into account that Incubator helps humanity to advance (for the Reapers to harvest them).
[[WMG: [[BitTrip Commander Video]] is Homura in the far... far... future.]]
In the far... far... future end of the universe as we know it where the universe turned into 8-bit, Homura is still alive... searching... for something... Her purpose is unclear due to how the universe changes.]]
[[WMG: When Homura dies/disappears...]]
She will AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence with Madoka, and be [[TogetherInDeath together forever]].
[[WMG: May 21st was ''going'' to be the end of the world...]]
...but then a bunch of Puella Magi prevented it from happening.
[[WMG: IN AMERICA! Kyuubey turns you into lich.]]
In Soviet Russia, lich turns you into KYUUBEY!
[[WMG: Madoka and Homura form two "human/flawed" parts of one Jesus]]
Well with all the [[IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially in the original timeline Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.
* Jesus is when Homuhomu's [[FateWorseThanDeath sacrifice]] is combined with Madoka's [[TheFourLoves agape]].
* Alternatively, EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory, and Kyubey is the Devil[=/=][[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Demiurge]].
[[WMG: The series is based to a measure on [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Valentinian Gnosticism]].]]
First, a bit of clarification. Gnostic schools like Valentinianism, while still somewhat suspicious of the physical world, did not go so far as to declare it innately and irrevocably monstrous. We're at the other end of the Gnostic scale from ''The Second Treatise of the Great Seth''.
The PSP game has an interesting witch in the last BonusDungeon: [[spoiler: Quitterie and her familiars look a '''''LOT''''' like Kyubey]]. While this really could just be honoring [[spoiler: Kyubey's goals]] through [[spoiler: imitation of its guise]], it does bring up an interesting thought, that the Incubators ''themselves'' are a composite familiar, or at least very much akin to such. Thus, their creator/liege is like unto a witch. And so begins the train of thought...
Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple CompleteMonster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.
So basically, we have a creator and angels who can't see the forest for the trees. Stabilization at the cost of sorrow isn't ''that'' good a trade! However, Valentinianism also posits that the aeons sent a Messiah (variously the Serpent of Eden, Jesus, etc.) to help redeem the creation from the Demiurge's mismanagement. Unlike the view of the producers of the Second Treatise, though, ''the Demiurge and his archons are meant to be redeemed as well''. Also important to consider is that in at least most schools of Gnosticism, human souls are actually divine sparks that got unwittingly trapped in the physical creation as the Demiurge produced it. The Demiurge, mind you, has no real idea that the souls are divine in nature; he's just wholly ignorant of the existence of ''anything'' outside himself and his creation (the aeons are working on that, though). So, because they're not archons, he has no way to see them as important unto themselves, as being mini-aeons would imply--he's ObliviouslyEvil. So, in short, he's busy keeping the world going as he's always done, no matter how much woe is produced as a side effect, because he literally ''has no ability or cause to imagine a Plan B at this time.'' He just doesn't know ''how'' to care. The Messiah is here to ''get'' Plan B going, whether the Demiurge initially approves or not.
Mapping to Madoka...The Incubators are, if not the Demiurge, then his archons. They manipulate the divine-sparked mortals (specifically, potential magical girls) to harness what's needed to keep creation as it's "always" been. While the magical girl/witch cycle can seem like sadistic schemes for the Incubators' amusement, it's really "just" the only good way the archons can think of to keep things going (not that it makes the situation less malign, that it's not actively malevolent). The amount of high-grade (they don't know it's actually divine/pneumatic) energy they get results in universe-wide stabilization that outmasses the Earth-localized rue. And are the magical girls ever manipulated--they practically become unwitting archons...
However, because of Homura's persistence, Madoka understands not only the true nature of the Incubators' schemes, but also that they're genuinely trying to do the right thing. Their understanding of right and wrong is, like the spirit-ignorant Demiurge's, incomplete. Homura, like the untiring Messiah throughout his/her many incarnations, has awakened Madoka, the representative divine spark, to the truth/gnosis. Only the Incubators' mechanism is bad; the goal isn't. And so, by taking the Messiah mantle herself from Homura, Madoka commences the salvation of the system. It's not complete, not by a long stretch, but at least ''this'' way, the manipulated magical girls are instead released into the Pneuma after they've done all they can, rather than become victims of Demiurgic foolishness--just as those who know the truth (as, after Madoka's work, they do ''as a matter of course'') can reach salvation rather than stay stuck in the Hylic/physical mire. And given enough time, perhaps the archons/Incubators, too, will figure out a way to stabilize/save the universe that doesn't require energy harvesting from innocent mortals...
[[WMG: The series is a metaphor for the {{Seiyuu}} and pop idol industries, and by extension how MusicIsPolitics and [[HorribleHollywood Hollywood is evil]] in general.]]
AyaHirano and MichaelJackson are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' or other cheerful TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life (TypeCasting, SlaveToPR, ArtistDisillusionment, being virtually [[UnwittingPawn whored out all the time]] by {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s who [[ExecutiveMeddling always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[NeverLiveItDown eternal]] [[DarthWiki/FallenCreator damnation]] by the FanDumb, not even being able to avoid said eternal damnation due to accusations about scandals...) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).
You may know already that even if you're a rich popular celebrity you will still be able to fall into DespairEventHorizon (hence [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll reckless hedonism]] or [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]), and are in fact more susceptible to it, but most people may never notice because of the "[[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity all kinds of fame]]=money=anything you want" imagery. What's worse is that when you do fall into DespairEventHorizon the executives will whore you out even more (paparazzi, DeadArtistsAreBetter, etc.) thus more money for them, and they don't even have to pay you back since there will be more suckers who want to emulate your fame and wealth (this parallels how Incubators extract even more energy from magical girls falling to DespairEventHorizon and turning into witches, which in turn creates increasing demand for more willing magical girls to outshine said witches). Just like how if you're a Magical Girl you can get anything you want, and everyone sees you as a hero, but unfortunately deep down you're just a zombie who's reduced into nothing more than a glorified furniture of the Incubators. Also, according to Analysis/MusicIsPolitics:
->''Younger artists are very susceptible to this trope. This is probably one of the reasons labels prefer younger artists: they're less well-versed in the ways of the business and easier to control. And it's likely the reason the industry focus on younger listeners. Older music buyers/listeners ''already know'' what they like and don't like, where as younger listeners [[GullibleLemmings can be ]]''[[GullibleLemmings told ]]''[[GullibleLemmings what to like]].''
Sounds like why Kyubey prefers making liches out of young, weak, unknowing, diabetes-tasting girls with high hopes (like Madoka and Moemura) instead of the older more strong-willed ones experienced in business (like Junko), right?
[[WMG: The Eldritch Horror behind all the Madokamisery and the Entropy is..... TV Tropes!]]
Where did Entropy get its name from? The prefix "en-" coupled with of all things, the word "TROPE". Kyubey requires making a DealWithTheDevil to sustain the universe. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TV Tropes requires ruining your own life to sustain itself.]] Makes sense?
* It wouldn't be wild to even speculate how [[GenUrobuchi Uro]][[FanNickname butcher]] is one of those ruined lives.
[[WMG: It's all a financial metaphor]]
[[DealWithTheDevil Contracts]] = [[LoanShark loans]]. [[spoiler:Homura trying to rewind time only to make Madoka an even more destructive witch = Trying to get out of debt only to end up increasing the interest and in even more debt.]]
[[WMG: So GenUrobuchi and HideakiAnno [[HeardAnyGoodJokesLately walk into a bar]]...]]
...and seven drinks after the bartender tells them there's a five-drink minimum for setting up bad DeadBabyComedy jokes, Urobuchi makes a bet to Anno and the bartender that he can beat Anno at making THE most depressing anime ever.
* Gen never got his money from the bartender, since he had [[DrivenToSuicide committed suicide]].
[[WMG: From the aforementioned ''Evangelion'' WMG; the Incubators are actually manifestations of humanity's collective opportunism and {{sociopath}}y under a mask of civilization.]]
With the rise of agriculture/industrialism, establishment of cities, increasingly stratified societies, and insatiable mass consumerism/capitalist culture, humanity's capacity for empathy decreased, while raw [[AmbitionIsEvil selfish ambition which led to sociopathic greed and opportunism]] built up to critical mass. Today, idealistic themes we saw all the time in Magical Girl shows, such as ThePowerOfLove, are [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids nothing more than a marketing ploy]] for the dominant ruler of the world, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney The Power Of]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Love For Material Wealth]].
All that stuff about aliens and entropy is symptomatic of our tendency to justify them with little white lies and HalfTruths whenever we devastate nature or take advantage of our fellow man. It took the form of a race of [[KillerRabbit seemingly]] [[AffablyEvil harmless]] {{RidiculouslyCuteCritter}}s for much the same reason; we all try to convince ourselves we're right, we're just trying to help, and [[RomanticismVersusEnlightenment the destruction of the earth and the human individual is all for the sake of Enlightenment and protecting human civilization from entropy/decay]]. In other words, [[TomatoInTheMirror we are all Kyubey]]. Or rather, we are all his/her/[[PronounTrouble its]] / [[FutuRama shkler]] father/mother. [[StarWars Search your feelings, you know it to be true.]]
Also, when Madoka asked what would happen if Kyubey never existed, Kyubey replied that humanity will still be naked living in caves. Thus, Kyubey's IndustrializedEvil is presented as something good and necessary. UnfortunateImplications arise when "bringing civilization" is also one of the reasons the Europeans justified slavery and destruction of tribal cultures.
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-> You have some really great ideas. I can make any of them true.\\
All I need is for you to make a contract.
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The page has grown big enough to start corrupting the wiki software. Confirmed and Jossed theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica here]]. Unconfirmed theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica2 here.]] Crossover theories are [[WMG/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica3 here]].
!Miscellaneous theories
Odd stuff, symbolism, meta concepts, etc.
Anything not directly story related, and/or things we'll never be able to confirm.
[[WMG: Madoka broadcast will skip one week to make series end on April 30 instead of 24.]]
In Madoka the big finale will happen on Walpurgis Night. And Walpurgis Night is April 30.
* They might be able to make a 13th episode or do the same thing like what they did to ''LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}}''.
** [[spoiler:Semi-]][[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-16/this-week-madoka-magica-not-aired-in-self-restraint CON]][[http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/15/madoka-ep-11-not-airing-this-week/ FIRMED]]. [[spoiler:[[FlatWhat What]].]]
* Except that this puts the probably end-date at March 31.
* Yeah, the series is supposed to end in March, not April. Speaking of which, due to timezones it might be April 1st in Japan when it airs. AprilFools? Keeping it in Meta because they might release a bonus episode on April 30th, who knows?
** Very unlikely, but since episode 11 was delayed again...
*** If they delay the final episode until the Walpurgis Night I will be scared. Coincidence, yeah right.
* It's going to air April 21. It's...pretty close.
* It aired on Good Friday 2011. Madoka Died For Your Sins!
[[WMG:The whole series is an experiment]]
Specifically, an experiment on writing a show based on internet theories. They started out with character designs and a general concept and direction, dropped hints that it would be an extremely dark show (the leak about Urobuchi Gen's involvment was no accident), and then let the theorists go to town. They keep a close eye on all the forums and wikis that are examining the show, take the theories they like best, and use them. Heck, just look at all the theories that have been confirmed/lent credence, from this page alone!:
* Kyuubey really might be evil (this was one of the very first theories here, appearing shortly after the first episode aired).
* Witches are [[spoiler:Fallen Mahou Shoujo]].
* Sayaka becomes a [[spoiler:Witch]].
* Homura is a ''[[WMG/TimeLord Time Lor]]''- I mean Traveler, of all things (Another episode 1 theory).
After all, what better resource is there than the audience's imagination?
A popular 4 koma gag comic in Japan's internet community involves QB as a used car salesman, desperately trying to get people to sign up for contracts because his bosses are on him to meet his quota. In episode 10, one of the things he specifically mentions is that [[spoiler: he doesn't care what happens to Earth, which will likely be destroyed by the rampaging super-witch created by Walpurgis Night, as long as he fills his quota.]] Uh...
[[WMG: Has anyone noticed...]]
...that Madoka's necklace in the main page artwork bears a striking resemblance to Kyouko's soul gem? Thats a whole other EpilepticTree right there...
* ItGetsWorse. [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/856940/hair_ribbon-kaname_madoka-kyuubee-leg_hug-mahou_sh Look at this]] (Ads NSFW) It would certainly make all the Kyubee and Madoka hate HilariousInHindsight...[[FunnyAneurysmMoment or the opposite]]
[[WMG:Each magical girl is a representative of another magical girl show]]
Not an outright expy, but more of a conglomeration and may or may not be corrupted somehow. For example, Kyouko Sakura says this to Sayaka: "I told you and I hit you, but you still don't get it", and before that tells her to take a chill pill. This is pretty much [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha's]] [[DefeatMeansFriendship Modus Operandi]]. On a more superficial level, she also wields a pole-arm, which can break into chain-connected segments simultaneously bearing similarities to Raising Heart and Levantine.
* I can see it happening... But not only to a series. To many of them, perhaps.
** Mami: Might be KamikazeKaitouJeanne, although one could say she took the "Kamikaze" part a little too literally.
** Sayaka: MagicKnightRayearth, perhaps? Has the whole sword wielding thing, not to mention the "I can't be with my beloved one" part...
** Homura: Manga/SailorMoon, perhaps [[spoiler: (Sailor Pluto's powers)]]. And maybe a bit of [[TokyoMewMew Zakuro's]] personality, [[spoiler: after who knows how many timelines]].
** [[spoiler: Both Homura and Chibiusa time traveled in order to save someone. Homura was in poor health when she was befriended by Madoka, and Hotaru was in poor health when she was befriended by Chibiusa. In both instances the character with a pink color scheme befriended the character with the purple and black color scheme. Episode 12 shows Homura on the moon. Moon Kingdom, anyone?]]
** Kyoko: As you said, Nanoha. And maybe a bit of SaintTail as well (even the clothes are a bit similar, not to mention the whole Catholic thing going on).
** Madoka: A reversed Manga/CardcaptorSakura (Sakura must be a magical girl to prevent a terrible thing; Madoka must ''not'' become one to do so). Not to mention that I couldn't be the only one to see similarities between her clothes and the ones Sakura uses in all openings.
** Oriko and Kirika: The one in black is the one that fights while the one in white is the one who sits in the sidelines. This fighting style is pretty much like FutariWaPrettyCure.
*** Kirika's last name is Kure, which contributes to this hypothesis.
** [[PuellaMagiKazumiMagica Kazumi]]: SugarSugarRune. She has a CuteWitch magical girl outfit and a food motif.
[[WMG: Conversely, all witches who appear are representing girls from different animes.]]
Said animes being not necessarily in the mahou shoujo genre.
* Charlotte is related to Creator/CartoonNetwork, I believe.
** Specifically ''FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''. Tell me her second from doesn't look like an Imaginary Friend.
[[WMG: Puella Magi Madoka Magica takes place before every Magical Girl show ever.]]
Originally, every magical girl contract in every universe was a DealWithTheDevil - it only makes sense for Madoka's story to have to take place before all of them. Also reinforces the "Madoka = Jesus[=/=]Goddess of Magical Girls" concept.
[[WMG: The random corruption in the CypherLanguage isn't random.]]
The cypher language has random errors in it, possibly to make reading it harder. Or, perhaps, it's a longer message that's playing out through the episodes, designed to be read at the end.
[[WMG: Someone will give Kyubey a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.]]
Don't we all want this to happen? Anyway, in the dream at the start of the series, Madoka gives Kyubey an angry/determined look just before it ends. If the WMG that she ''won't'' accept a contract is true, she may be gearing up to deliver one of these.
[[WMG: The series will eventually be followed with a {{Reconstruction}} of the MagicalGirl genre.]]
People have compared this to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' so much, it's only natural that we'll some day see its ''GurrenLagann''. And while the genre has been deconstructed several times before, to my knowledge there's never been a reconstruction, at least one popular enough to be widely known.
* Perhaps the second season of ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt''? Or perhaps a ''Manga/SailorMoon'' remake? It has to be tons of badass, either way.
** Sort of confirmed, since Madoka reconstructs the world so that despair now forms demons instead of turning girls into Witches. The sequence is even somewhat similar to the Third Impact sequence from ''End of Evangelion''.
[[WMG:Madoka Magica is an Allegory of Drug Addiction]]
A little guy comes and offers the girls an offer of a great pleasure. The catch is, once they are in, they can't get out, and they will be forced to do tricks for him, with death being the only apparent exit. They also need to constantly find more and more of these "Grief Seeds" to survive. They ''fight'' each other to obtain them. Not to mention that when in the proccess of extracting these "seeds" they find themselves in such a [[AcidTripDimension bizarre space (or state of consciousness)]].
[[FanNickname Homuhomu]], an already addict, comes and tries to warn Madoka about not getting into it if she cares about her life and family. Some think it is because this would reduce the amount of narcotics she can acquire, but maybe it is really because she doesn't want others to suffer her same fate. She tries to shoot down the dealer, Kyubey, before it's too late. But the girls find him and get interested in the thing after a little try. They meet Mami, a "veteran" in this and tries to turn them in as well. She started consuming them because she "had no choice", she had no family, she was alone and depressed. It "saved her life". What was the result of having this way of life for so long? [[spoiler: Her death. The drug itself "consumed" her. It "destroyed" her head]].
Horrified, the girls doubt. But Sayaka, who has her own problems, becomes more and more interested. Kyubey is constantly trying to make Madoka turn in; as to what the potential about her he is talking about means, I'm not really sure yet. When Kyouko comes, she is not really interested in stopping the death of the innocent lives all the narcotrafic or the drugs themselves cause. More for her.
However, later they find out just how much these things deteriorate their bodies, to the point of [[spoiler:Kyouko pointing out they have become something like zombies]] in episode 6, and even she is disturbed. Sayaka [[spoiler:collapses when her "stuff" is taken away from her]]. They really can't go on without it.
This series makes a lot more sense if you substituted “pimp” for “Kyubey,” “drugs” for “grief seed,” “crack whore” for “puella magi,” and “cocaine-fueled orgasmic high” for “wish.”
So, maybe now you will think differently next time you see these girls [[UnusualEuphemism "fighting witches"]].
* [[MadeOfWin THIS.]]
** Check out the {{PoisonOakEpilepticTree|s}} "''Madoka'' is one giant drug trip." Kyubey is a pale, balding {{Ephebophile}} with red eyes.
[[WMG: The witch in episode 4...]]
[[spoiler: Was OneOfUs!]] Is the female populace of our community not even safe? The witch was saying phrases like "she don't like fools" and "I'm young so I will not work! I will only live, live, live!" Also notice the form: ITS A COMPUTER MONITOR FROM THE 90's! Poor troper got herself turned into a witch... DAMN you [[ChaoticEvil EVIL]] WHITE RAT!
* Oh and apparently her name MIGHT be "Elly Kirsten"
* Confirmed, I guess, according to the cards, Elly is Hikkimori witch.
[[WMG: Kyubey works on commission.]]
Have you ever tried to buy or lease a car? They can get REALLY pushy. Also, with Homura following him around, he's probably [[http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/841811/ really hurtin' for new contracts]].
[[WMG: [[EarnYourHappyEnding Madoka's wish will restore everything to normal to before they met Kyubei]]]]
OPTIONAL: However it will go horribly wrong.
[[WMG: Each witch is an Allegory of the Seven Deadly Sins.]]
It is now known that witches are born from negative emotions [[spoiler:when Magical Girls become corrupted]]. Perhaps the form they take as a witch is based on their greatest sin [[spoiler: as a human being]].
* Gertrud represents either Pride or Lust
* Charlotte represents Gluttony.
* Elly represents Sloth
* Elsa Maria represents Pride or Wrath
* [[spoiler: Sayaka/Oktavia von Seckendorff represents Wrath or Envy]].
** Since the [[spoiler:mermaid in the original Andersen tale]] was supposed to represent lust, perhaps [[spoiler:Oktavia]] is lust and Gertrud pride?
[[WMG: Kyubey tastes like marshmallows]]
[[{{Squick}} You know you want it to be true.]]
* [[http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51254552.html Confirmed?]]
[[WMG: Morning Rescue...]]
Will break the Walls of Reality and rescue Madoka and everyone else. Then everyone will enjoy a nice cold glass of LCL.
* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKY1w4NNX-Y Confirmed?]]
[[WMG: All the confirmed WildMassGuessing in this page were written by people who made a contract with QB]]
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[[WMG: QB is a wife-/mate-beater.]]
... Yeah, I know this is kinda DudeNotFunny, but {{I Always Wanted To Say| That}} [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 "Wishes? You know who gives wishes? Blokes what bludgeon their wives to death with a golf trophy."]]
[[WMG: It's all planned by a really [[CompleteMonster sadistic]] [[GodIsEvil cosmic being]].]]
Kyubei is just a vessel for it.
[[WMG: Urobuchi being the writer was a RedHerring]]
So that nobody would notice the real one. The real writer will be [[MindFuck revealed to be]] [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Ryukishi07]], and the plot was caused by Bernkastel's boredom as a WMG above mentioned.
[[WMG: [[DudeNotFunny Japan's 9.0 magnitude earthquake was caused by the coming of the Walpurgis Night]]]]
Madoka's power is enough to [[InfiniteCrisis Punch Reality]]
* [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Translated_Official_Documents#Earthquake_reactions Confirmed by Word of God?]]
* TooSoon, man.
** You should stay away from /a/, then. It's even parts this joke, ''TokyoMagnitude8'' jokes, and complaints about how earthquake reports are going to fill the screen for the rest of the season.
* Alternatively, caused by Homura in some desperate attempt to stave off the inevitable.
[[WMG: Gen Urobuchi is an Incubator]]
In a similar vein, Puella Magi Madoka Magica is an extremely efficient emotional energy collection mechanism. Why spend the effort to draw energy from a couple of little girls at a time, when you can get energy from a much wider range through television? The reason why he tried to hide his involvement was just to heighten the hope we'd all feel to boost the effects of the slow dive into despair.
* [[LyingCreator It]] [[TrollingCreator all]] makes sense now! It all makes sense!
* It goes further. He harvests the disproportionate nerdrage that results from his trolling. One simple anime spawns a massive fan effort that generates more emotions and even more nerdrage in a cascade of entropy-defying disproportionate reactions, thus ensuring that he won't even need to really make little girls suffer when a cascading avalanche of fan reactions produces infinitely more efficient energy. Now that is true genius.
[[WMG: Kyuubei is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon Maxwell's Demon.]]]]
What if you could summon a demon to negate entropy?
[[WMG: Homura is an AU GhostRider.]]
If QB is Mephisto...
* [[OlderThanTheyThink or you know]], {{Faust}}.
** Given that Madoka's Witch form is Gretchen, the name of the woman Mephisto tries to get Faust to corrupt; it's apparently Homura who is Faust.
[[WMG: There will be an AMV of [[ThePrincessAndTheFrog "Friends on the Other Side"]].]]
Listen to it! Doesn't it fit Kyubey?
* You want a song that fits Kyubey? ''[[Disney/TheLittleMermaid Poor Unfortunate Souls]]''.
** Aww man , you beat me to it.
[[WMG: The staff will end up releasing episode 11 in late March, and episode 12 on April 1.]]
Then they get an excuse to make some weird GainaxEnding and say "Haha! April Fools'!"
* With no episode 11 in sight, I believe this one is {{Jossed}} at this point.
[[WMG: Episodes 11 and 12, and the ending of Madoka altogether, will be {{Bowdlerized}}.]]
As to not offend victims of the Earthquake & Tsunami in Japan. This would explain the delay of Episodes 11 and 12. Even if they aren't Bowdlerized by SHAFT, they still could be watered down [[ExecutiveMeddling by the stations broadcasting Madoka.]]
* Semi-confirmed in that this was why the delay kept getting extended: the channels refused to broadcast something of that nature. Either they've gotten around it, or they Bowdlerized it (but chances are the Nico broadcast will probably be untouched).
[[WMG: Fans will be dissapointed by the finale]]
* Jossed, thankfully. By and large, the finale was very well-received.
[[WMG: SHAFT will make up for the delay somehow]]
[[WMG: [[AuthorAvatar Urobuchi is Kyubey]] and he is trying to [[spoiler:cure himself.]]]]
Or rather, Kyubey, entropy, and the entire despair-powered CosmicHorrorStory universe are projections of the "tragedy syndrome" from Urobuchi's [[Quotes/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica afterword]] of Fate/Zero from which Magica draws from. He is the [[NietzscheWannabe part of himself]] that was taken over by the pessimistic-yet-realistic "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids" philosophy, making him no longer comprehend happy endings and become a bearer of the plague to his worlds. But while creating some of the darkest scenarios possible, he is also littering them with [[ChekhovsArmoury the means]] to turn things around. Not easily or without things worsening first, which is why Homura, who can represent his "true Self" trapped between hope and despair, has the ability to [[spoiler:keep trying]].
Mami's wish was likely [[spoiler:to live, so she has an unshown ability to survive her scenario so long as her Soul Gem is intact long enough]]. Kyouko's was to [[spoiler:make people listen to words of salvation, where if she [[CantSpitItOut calls out]] to Witch!Sayaka herself, she can reach her]]. With each attempt, Madoka's [[spoiler:potential and memories of the previous timelines grow, and with it the scale of her wish. If being consumed by corruption is the magical girls' own equivalent of entropy, she will become something that can violate that rule.]] Homura has yet to completely outgrow being a [[spoiler:ShrinkingViolet, and much of the senseless deaths are a result of PoorCommunicationKills where she [[YouHaveToBelieveMe cannot convince anyone]]. Should she overcome her flaw or Madoka remember the alternate events, the stage will be set for a time loop that [[DeconReconSwitch lets them win.]]]] Possibly through a wish as simple as [[spoiler:"I wish Kyubey could [[HeelFaceTurn understand]]." ]]
With Episode 12, aka Urobuchi's happiest ending, this guess might just be likely.
Or these are all [[HopeSpot hope spots]] for the audience.
[[WMG: The broadcast delay was done to re-animate the first section of episode 11.]]
During the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake, some of the creators of the show tweeted "It's Walpurgis Niiight~!" and such, suggesting in-show that the appearance of the Walpurgis would cause some sort of earthquake. This would also explain why the official explaination for the delay was "self-restraint" -- they realised it would be very cheap of them to use a massive earthquake in light of the tragedy and the first half of episode 11 was re-animated to be a storm rather than a quake.
[[WMG: ''Madoka Magica'' [[GreenAesop promotes the use of clean, renewable energy sources]].]]
Think about it for a second. [[spoiler:The incubators need energy. Their method to obtain it is harvesting the black despair of magical girls turned into witches. This causes damage, in the form of everyone suffering through the whole process. When Madoka wishes that witches are no more, she instead opts for a system which produces somewhat less energy, but causes less suffering all over universe.]]
[[spoiler:Now, change 'suffering' for 'pollution.' You can't deny that it sorta makes sense, don't you think?]]
Gen, you MagnificentBastard! Everything has gone '''[[Manga/DeathNote exactly as you planned]]'''!
* It's funny, I came to this page ''exactly'' to add this. Goddammit, that makes this theory look more true...
* What makes this even better is the windmills contrasting with the oil rigs in and around the city. Alternative energy was the theme ''the entire time''.
[[WMG: Homura saves Amy [[spoiler:in every timeline that Madoka doesn't]] ]]
As a reflection of what Madoka means to her, Homura saves [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-RL9VpZXw Amy]] ([[spoiler:The cat in the OT]]), in spite of everything else going on.
[[WMG: The Incubators were created by the [[MassEffect Reapers]].]]
If we take Episode 11 into account that Incubator helps humanity to advance (for the Reapers to harvest them).
[[WMG: [[BitTrip Commander Video]] is Homura in the far... far... future.]]
In the far... far... future end of the universe as we know it where the universe turned into 8-bit, Homura is still alive... searching... for something... Her purpose is unclear due to how the universe changes.]]
[[WMG: When Homura dies/disappears...]]
She will AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence with Madoka, and be [[TogetherInDeath together forever]].
[[WMG: May 21st was ''going'' to be the end of the world...]]
...but then a bunch of Puella Magi prevented it from happening.
[[WMG: IN AMERICA! Kyuubey turns you into lich.]]
In Soviet Russia, lich turns you into KYUUBEY!
[[WMG: Madoka and Homura form two "human/flawed" parts of one Jesus]]
Well with all the [[IntellectualPropertyReligion Madokamists]] preaching Madoka as our [[MessianicArchetype Saviour]] we didn't notice that [[FanNickname Homuhomu]] is always there protecting Madoka even if it means bearing the eternal torment of [[LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya an endless recursion of time]], and isn't that like something Jesus would do for your salvation? Initially in the original timeline Madoka is a full-blown messiah who suffers for Homuhomu. When Homuhomu wished for Time Lord powers to protect Madoka, in other timelines (like the series timeline) she suffers for Madoka, making Madoka gain the power of multiple universes revolving around her and making her think about what she really wants to wish. In the end Madokami is able to suffer and die for everyone's sins, bearing the eternal torment of the world's despair upon her to prevent witches from happening, and in the new witch-free timeline that she created, Homuhomu protects.
* Jesus is when Homuhomu's [[FateWorseThanDeath sacrifice]] is combined with Madoka's [[TheFourLoves agape]].
* Alternatively, EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory, and Kyubey is the Devil[=/=][[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Demiurge]].
[[WMG: The series is based to a measure on [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Valentinian Gnosticism]].]]
First, a bit of clarification. Gnostic schools like Valentinianism, while still somewhat suspicious of the physical world, did not go so far as to declare it innately and irrevocably monstrous. We're at the other end of the Gnostic scale from ''The Second Treatise of the Great Seth''.
The PSP game has an interesting witch in the last BonusDungeon: [[spoiler: Quitterie and her familiars look a '''''LOT''''' like Kyubey]]. While this really could just be honoring [[spoiler: Kyubey's goals]] through [[spoiler: imitation of its guise]], it does bring up an interesting thought, that the Incubators ''themselves'' are a composite familiar, or at least very much akin to such. Thus, their creator/liege is like unto a witch. And so begins the train of thought...
Unlike schools that regard the Demiurge as a simple CompleteMonster, Valentinianism thinks of him as more of a misguided LawfulNeutral who is ''obsessed'' with rules and stability. The problem is that his methods of keeping the flawed physical creation together generate plenty of grief and woe fallout for the mortal denizens. The archons, his police force, don't really help the situation. It helps to look at the more severe schools, where the archons torment and harass mortals for their own amusement and edification...and sometimes, their sustenance. While the Demiurge is still [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned]], that ([[BlueAndOrangeMorality somewhat alien]]) benevolence is nonetheless malign for certain denizens. Then again, the Demiurge seems to be more concerned with the physical universe as a whole, and himself and his archons whose eternal dwelling it is, than the self-aware subset.
So basically, we have a creator and angels who can't see the forest for the trees. Stabilization at the cost of sorrow isn't ''that'' good a trade! However, Valentinianism also posits that the aeons sent a Messiah (variously the Serpent of Eden, Jesus, etc.) to help redeem the creation from the Demiurge's mismanagement. Unlike the view of the producers of the Second Treatise, though, ''the Demiurge and his archons are meant to be redeemed as well''. Also important to consider is that in at least most schools of Gnosticism, human souls are actually divine sparks that got unwittingly trapped in the physical creation as the Demiurge produced it. The Demiurge, mind you, has no real idea that the souls are divine in nature; he's just wholly ignorant of the existence of ''anything'' outside himself and his creation (the aeons are working on that, though). So, because they're not archons, he has no way to see them as important unto themselves, as being mini-aeons would imply--he's ObliviouslyEvil. So, in short, he's busy keeping the world going as he's always done, no matter how much woe is produced as a side effect, because he literally ''has no ability or cause to imagine a Plan B at this time.'' He just doesn't know ''how'' to care. The Messiah is here to ''get'' Plan B going, whether the Demiurge initially approves or not.
Mapping to Madoka...The Incubators are, if not the Demiurge, then his archons. They manipulate the divine-sparked mortals (specifically, potential magical girls) to harness what's needed to keep creation as it's "always" been. While the magical girl/witch cycle can seem like sadistic schemes for the Incubators' amusement, it's really "just" the only good way the archons can think of to keep things going (not that it makes the situation less malign, that it's not actively malevolent). The amount of high-grade (they don't know it's actually divine/pneumatic) energy they get results in universe-wide stabilization that outmasses the Earth-localized rue. And are the magical girls ever manipulated--they practically become unwitting archons...
However, because of Homura's persistence, Madoka understands not only the true nature of the Incubators' schemes, but also that they're genuinely trying to do the right thing. Their understanding of right and wrong is, like the spirit-ignorant Demiurge's, incomplete. Homura, like the untiring Messiah throughout his/her many incarnations, has awakened Madoka, the representative divine spark, to the truth/gnosis. Only the Incubators' mechanism is bad; the goal isn't. And so, by taking the Messiah mantle herself from Homura, Madoka commences the salvation of the system. It's not complete, not by a long stretch, but at least ''this'' way, the manipulated magical girls are instead released into the Pneuma after they've done all they can, rather than become victims of Demiurgic foolishness--just as those who know the truth (as, after Madoka's work, they do ''as a matter of course'') can reach salvation rather than stay stuck in the Hylic/physical mire. And given enough time, perhaps the archons/Incubators, too, will figure out a way to stabilize/save the universe that doesn't require energy harvesting from innocent mortals...
[[WMG: The series is a metaphor for the {{Seiyuu}} and pop idol industries, and by extension how MusicIsPolitics and [[HorribleHollywood Hollywood is evil]] in general.]]
AyaHirano and MichaelJackson are certainly testimonies to the chew-'em-up-and-spit-'em-out nature of the entertainment industry. Also noteworthy is how so many young modern seiyuus and artists (wait for it...) signed the contract because they were fans of ''Manga/SailorMoon'' or other cheerful TV shows, only to discover that they get most of the downsides of celebrity life (TypeCasting, SlaveToPR, ArtistDisillusionment, being virtually [[UnwittingPawn whored out all the time]] by {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s who [[ExecutiveMeddling always desecrate their Magnum Opus]], creepy stalker fans, having to keep their private/romantic lives complete secrets to avoid [[NeverLiveItDown eternal]] [[DarthWiki/FallenCreator damnation]] by the FanDumb, not even being able to avoid said eternal damnation due to accusations about scandals...) with very few of the perks (seiyuus go into idoldom and gravure shots because voice acting actually does not pay too well in Japan, and most idols themselves only get judged by their cover and not their true self).
You may know already that even if you're a rich popular celebrity you will still be able to fall into DespairEventHorizon (hence [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll reckless hedonism]] or [[DrivenToSuicide suicide]]), and are in fact more susceptible to it, but most people may never notice because of the "[[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity all kinds of fame]]=money=anything you want" imagery. What's worse is that when you do fall into DespairEventHorizon the executives will whore you out even more (paparazzi, DeadArtistsAreBetter, etc.) thus more money for them, and they don't even have to pay you back since there will be more suckers who want to emulate your fame and wealth (this parallels how Incubators extract even more energy from magical girls falling to DespairEventHorizon and turning into witches, which in turn creates increasing demand for more willing magical girls to outshine said witches). Just like how if you're a Magical Girl you can get anything you want, and everyone sees you as a hero, but unfortunately deep down you're just a zombie who's reduced into nothing more than a glorified furniture of the Incubators. Also, according to Analysis/MusicIsPolitics:
->''Younger artists are very susceptible to this trope. This is probably one of the reasons labels prefer younger artists: they're less well-versed in the ways of the business and easier to control. And it's likely the reason the industry focus on younger listeners. Older music buyers/listeners ''already know'' what they like and don't like, where as younger listeners [[GullibleLemmings can be ]]''[[GullibleLemmings told ]]''[[GullibleLemmings what to like]].''
Sounds like why Kyubey prefers making liches out of young, weak, unknowing, diabetes-tasting girls with high hopes (like Madoka and Moemura) instead of the older more strong-willed ones experienced in business (like Junko), right?
[[WMG: The Eldritch Horror behind all the Madokamisery and the Entropy is..... TV Tropes!]]
Where did Entropy get its name from? The prefix "en-" coupled with of all things, the word "TROPE". Kyubey requires making a DealWithTheDevil to sustain the universe. [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife TV Tropes requires ruining your own life to sustain itself.]] Makes sense?
* It wouldn't be wild to even speculate how [[GenUrobuchi Uro]][[FanNickname butcher]] is one of those ruined lives.
[[WMG: It's all a financial metaphor]]
[[DealWithTheDevil Contracts]] = [[LoanShark loans]]. [[spoiler:Homura trying to rewind time only to make Madoka an even more destructive witch = Trying to get out of debt only to end up increasing the interest and in even more debt.]]
[[WMG: So GenUrobuchi and HideakiAnno [[HeardAnyGoodJokesLately walk into a bar]]...]]
...and seven drinks after the bartender tells them there's a five-drink minimum for setting up bad DeadBabyComedy jokes, Urobuchi makes a bet to Anno and the bartender that he can beat Anno at making THE most depressing anime ever.
* Gen never got his money from the bartender, since he had [[DrivenToSuicide committed suicide]].
[[WMG: From the aforementioned ''Evangelion'' WMG; the Incubators are actually manifestations of humanity's collective opportunism and {{sociopath}}y under a mask of civilization.]]
With the rise of agriculture/industrialism, establishment of cities, increasingly stratified societies, and insatiable mass consumerism/capitalist culture, humanity's capacity for empathy decreased, while raw [[AmbitionIsEvil selfish ambition which led to sociopathic greed and opportunism]] built up to critical mass. Today, idealistic themes we saw all the time in Magical Girl shows, such as ThePowerOfLove, are [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids nothing more than a marketing ploy]] for the dominant ruler of the world, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney The Power Of]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Love For Material Wealth]].
All that stuff about aliens and entropy is symptomatic of our tendency to justify them with little white lies and HalfTruths whenever we devastate nature or take advantage of our fellow man. It took the form of a race of [[KillerRabbit seemingly]] [[AffablyEvil harmless]] {{RidiculouslyCuteCritter}}s for much the same reason; we all try to convince ourselves we're right, we're just trying to help, and [[RomanticismVersusEnlightenment the destruction of the earth and the human individual is all for the sake of Enlightenment and protecting human civilization from entropy/decay]]. In other words, [[TomatoInTheMirror we are all Kyubey]]. Or rather, we are all his/her/[[PronounTrouble its]] / [[FutuRama shkler]] father/mother. [[StarWars Search your feelings, you know it to be true.]]
Also, when Madoka asked what would happen if Kyubey never existed, Kyubey replied that humanity will still be naked living in caves. Thus, Kyubey's IndustrializedEvil is presented as something good and necessary. UnfortunateImplications arise when "bringing civilization" is also one of the reasons the Europeans justified slavery and destruction of tribal cultures.
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All I need is for you to make a contract.
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