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* Greninja speaks in PokemonSpeak in the new ''Smash'', which pretty much deconfirms the ''Origins'' versions of any Pokémon - including Mewtwo. If "relevance" and "timing" are factors, then that more popular Mewtwo would have been an alternative to this one. Cue OhCrap...
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[[WMG: Continuing on both of the above, Newtwo will make a reappearance and she will be shown to be connected with Lysandre and Team Flare]]
This could [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescue her from the scrappy heap]], as she would then be given her own interesting and unique story with a recognized villainous team from the newest games, establishing her as more than a shallow copy of the old Mewtwo. And of course, this would tie in with the Mega Evolution specials, which already show that the writers are willing to break [[StrictlyFormula formula]] a little.
This could [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescue her from the scrappy heap]], as she would then be given her own interesting and unique story with a recognized villainous team from the newest games, establishing her as more than a shallow copy of the old Mewtwo. And of course, this would tie in with the Mega Evolution specials, which already show that the writers are willing to break [[StrictlyFormula formula]] a little.
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This movie turned a lot of Western fans off Mewtwo Y, so they could depict a second one in non-game ''Pokémon'' media to try and win fans over. It could be the original Mewtwo (switching between the X and Y forms like Kyurem did in [[Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice its own movie]]), an ''Origins''-like Mewtwo, or possibly Mewtwo's Final Smash in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U/3DS'' (provided they don't [[CreatorsPet model it after Newtwo after all]]).
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This movie turned a lot of Western fans off Mewtwo Y, so they could depict a second one in non-game ''Pokémon'' media to try and win fans over. It could be the original Mewtwo (switching between the X and Y forms like Kyurem did in [[Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice its own movie]]), an ''Origins''-like Mewtwo, or possibly Mewtwo's Final Smash in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U/3DS'' (provided they don't [[CreatorsPet model base it after on Newtwo after all]]).
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This movie turned a lot of Western fans off Mewtwo Y, so they could depict a second one in non-game ''Pokémon'' media to try and win fans over. It could be the original Mewtwo (switching between the X and Y forms like Kyurem did in [[Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice its own movie]]), an ''Origins''-like Mewtwo, or possibly Mewtwo's Final Smash in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U/3DS'' (provided they don't [[CreatorsPet model it after Newtwo after all]]).
This movie turned a lot of Western fans off Mewtwo Y, so they could depict a second one in non-game ''Pokémon'' media to try and win fans over. It could be the original Mewtwo (switching between the X and Y forms like Kyurem did in [[Anime/PokemonKyuremVsTheSwordOfJustice its own movie]]), an ''Origins''-like Mewtwo, or possibly Mewtwo's Final Smash in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros for Wii U/3DS'' (provided they don't [[CreatorsPet model it after Newtwo after all]]).
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* The Mega Mewtwo X/Y and Lysandre cameos in the "Strongest Mega Evolution" special lend some credence to this theory; the special (or possibly movie) would probably be part 2 of the miniseries, and seeing as it had a small amount of PanderingToTheBase for the older fans, this could happen and Team Flare could be as dark as in the games. However, remember that this is [[AnimationAgeGhetto the Pokémon anime]], and we could be just as likely to have some sort of cop-out special where ''only'' Newtwo appears, and Lysandre's plan is simply to awaken Xerneas/Yveltal to rule the world a la [[BadassDecay anime!Ghetsis]].
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* The Mega Mewtwo X/Y and Lysandre cameos in the "Strongest Mega Evolution" special lend some credence to this theory; the theory. The special (or possibly movie) would probably be part 2 of the miniseries, and seeing as it had a small amount of PanderingToTheBase for the older fans, this could happen and Team Flare could be as dark as in the games. However, remember that this is [[AnimationAgeGhetto the Pokémon anime]], and we anime]]. We could be just as likely to have some sort of cop-out special where ''only'' Newtwo appears, and Lysandre's plan is simply to awaken Xerneas/Yveltal to rule the world a la [[BadassDecay anime!Ghetsis]].
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* The Mega Mewtwo X/Y and Lysandre cameos in the "Strongest Mega Evolution" special lend some credence to this theory; the special (or possibly movie) would probably be part 2 of the miniseries, and seeing as it had a small amount of PanderingToTheBase for the older fans, this could happen and Team Flare could be as dark as in the games. However, remember that this is [[AnimationAgeGhetto the Pokémon anime]], and we could be just as likely to have some sort of cop-out special where ''only'' Newtwo appears, and Lysandre's plan is simply to awaken Xerneas/Yveltal to rule the world a la [[BadassDecay anime!Ghetsis]].
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[[WMG: Continuing on this, a movie where both Mewtwo appear will have [[EnemyMine Team Rocket and Flare gang up.]] ]]
And both Mewtwos will have to join together to stop them. In a twist, Team Rocket may end up allying with one of the Mewtwo when they realize Team Flare's plan is [[OmnicidalManiac batshit]] [[EvilVersusOblivion insane.]]
And both Mewtwos will have to join together to stop them. In a twist, Team Rocket may end up allying with one of the Mewtwo when they realize Team Flare's plan is [[OmnicidalManiac batshit]] [[EvilVersusOblivion insane.]]
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[[WMG: New Mewtwo will have its own TV Movie sequel.]]
Old Mewtwo got his own sequel with Mewtwo Returns, which was used [[AuthorsSavingThrow to placate fans pissed at the ending.]] History could repeat itself with New Mewtwo getting a movie explaining where the hell she came from, and even having [[ContinuityNod old Mewtwo!]]
[[WMG: For the fangasms, there will be a ContinuityPorn with all Mewtwo.]]
Not just the old and new Mewtwo appearing, but the Mirage Mewtwo, the Genesect and Mew. Hell, let's add Porygon for the fangasm!
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[[WMG: One distinguishing factor: the old Mewtwo's Ability was Pressure, while the new Mewtwo's Ability is Unnerve.]]
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[[WMG:This Mewtwo is the
Judging by the latest trailer with Ash calling its name.
* Jossed. It is a different one.
* (Later Theory): Being a being of incomprehensible intelligence and physic power, it can probably change it's mental gender at will.
[[WMG: The
In the manga adaptation of this movie, Mewtwo had a different backstory, and it
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[[WMG: Newtwo will become a CreatorsPet]]
Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll remember her for years to come and eventually she'll be more famous than the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll remember her for years to come and eventually she'll be more famous than the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
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Not wanting to accept defeatThere are 3 Mewtwos]]
The first is the original Cinnabar Island one in the games, the second is the New Island one in the First Movie andadmit that the third is the one in this movie.
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[[WMG: The Mewtwo in the film was created because the original Mewtwo erased Team Rocket's memories.]]
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because theymade found a poor marketing choice in sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists (Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the old product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
[[WMG: The events in ''Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns'' did not expunge all records of Mewtwo'sReplacementScrappy ''again''), existence.]]
Think about it: Mewtwo used his psychic powers to wipe Giovanni andfuture depictions in other spinoffs pal's memory of his and other media being based Mt Quena's existence, but there's nothing saying that he wiped out whatever records of him are left. Even though a lot of what's known about him was blown apart when he escaped, Giovanni probably has lots of super-secure files on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll Giovanni and his Executives are the only ones who had files on Mewtwo. While Giovanni can't remember her for years to come the password and eventually she'll be more famous than place, the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
importance of the Mewtwo project(to the point that his own mother was part of it) would leave a colossal, mutant feline-shaped hole in the records. Having scientists brilliant enough to make Mewtwo in the first place find out what's going on, Giovanni rediscovered Mewtwo's existence. The reason Giovanni isn't going after Mewtwo again is because he's GenreSavvy to wait it out and ensure Mewtwo is in his command, especially now that he can't use his [[MoralityPet morality clones]] against Mewtwo. Unknown to Giovanni, Team Plasma managed to hijack this information and use it to create the Mewtwo in the 16th movie.
Not wanting to accept defeat
The first is the original Cinnabar Island one in the games, the second is the New Island one in the First Movie and
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[[WMG: The Mewtwo in the film was created because the original Mewtwo erased Team Rocket's memories.]]
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they
[[WMG: The events in ''Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns'' did not expunge all records of Mewtwo's
Think about it: Mewtwo used his psychic powers to wipe Giovanni and
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If a guess could be hazarded as to how, they probably hustled it & went there while Giovanni was conspiring with & decieving Mewtwo elsewhere, and may have discovered some sort of DNA leavings either within Mewtwo's tube or where Mewtwo was standing...somehow. Or maybe one of the computers wasn't completely destroyed. The Mew screen may even be extra DNA they found in the strand.
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If a guess could be hazarded as to how, they probably hustled it & went there while Giovanni was conspiring with & decieving deceiving Mewtwo elsewhere, and may have discovered some sort of DNA leavings either within Mewtwo's tube or where Mewtwo was standing...somehow. Or maybe one of the computers wasn't completely destroyed. The Mew screen may even be extra DNA they found in the strand.
strand.
[[WMG: The scientists who created Mewtwotwo are (or are connected with) [[spoiler: "the other group who inquired about the legendary Pokemon years ago" mentioned in [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Pokemon X and Y]].]]]]
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[[WMG:Mewtwo (in general) is a ''preevolved'' form of Mew]]
How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
[[WMG: One distinguishing factor: the old Mewtwo's Ability was Pressure, while the new Mewtwo's Ability is Unnerve.]]
The event distribution says it all.
[[WMG: Ash remembers what Mewtwo is...]]
...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
[[WMG: This Mewtwo is in love with Ash]]
# it wouldn't be the first time a pokemon fell in love with him.
# It stops fighting the Red Genesect only when Ash asks it. Only interfering when Genesect attacks again.
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[[WMG: Newtwo will become a CreatorsPet]]
Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll remember her for years to come and eventually she'll be more famous than the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
[[WMG: The scientists who created Mewtwotwo are (or are connected with) [[spoiler: "the other group who inquired about the legendary Pokemon years ago" mentioned in [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Pokemon X and Y]].]]]]
[[AC:Interactions]]
[[WMG:Mewtwo (in general) is a ''preevolved'' form of Mew]]
How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
[[WMG: One distinguishing factor: the old Mewtwo's Ability was Pressure, while the new Mewtwo's Ability is Unnerve.]]
The event distribution says it all.
[[WMG: Ash remembers what Mewtwo is...]]
...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
[[WMG: This Mewtwo is in love with Ash]]
# it wouldn't be the first time a pokemon fell in love with him.
# It stops fighting the Red Genesect only when Ash asks it. Only interfering when Genesect attacks again.
[[AC:Meta]]
[[WMG: Newtwo will become a CreatorsPet]]
Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll remember her for years to come and eventually she'll be more famous than the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
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[[WMG: The Mewtwo in the film was created because the original Mewtwo erased Team Rocket's memories.]]
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists (Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists (Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
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[[WMG:Newtwo is the original Mewtwo.]]
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[[WMG: This Movie will showcase a Gen VI Pokemon.]]
* Surprisingly, Jossed!
[[WMG: This movie will end with all the Genesect turning out as NotEvilJustMisunderstood.]]
Between [[spoiler: the manga showing the four purple Genesect doing a HeelFaceTurn]], the Army's "[[TheresNoPlaceLikeHome we want to go home]]" motivation and
* [[spoiler: Ho hum. What do you know. IKnewIt.]]
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[[WMG:Mewtwo (in general) is a ''preevolved'' form of Mew]]
How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
[[WMG: Ash remembers what Mewtwo is...]]
...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
[[WMG: This Mewtwo is in love with Ash]]
1. it wouldn't be the first time a pokemon fell in love with him.
2. It stops fighting the Red Genesect only when Ash asks it. Only interfering when Genesect attacks again.
[[WMG: There are 3 Mewtwos]]
The first is the original Cinnabar Island one in the games, the second is the New Island one in the First Movie and the third is the one in this movie.
[[WMG: The scientists who created Mewtwotwo are (or are connected with) [[spoiler: "the other group who inquired about the legendary Pokemon years ago" mentioned in [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Pokemon X and Y]].]]]]
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Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo.
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Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality rather than the original Mewtwo.
Mewtwo. And their logic will likely be something like "today's kids will grow up with this Mewtwo, so they'll remember her for years to come and eventually she'll be more famous than the old Mewtwo, which we don't like anymore for whatever reason".
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Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality as well rather than the original Mewtwo.
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Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality as well rather than the original Mewtwo.
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Not wanting to accept defeat and admit that they made a poor marketing choice in creating Mewtwotwo and handling her character the way they did, Yuyama and the rest of the anime's creative team will decide to make sure that she becomes the "go-to" depiction for Mewtwo from now on - after all, Yuyama said his goal was to create a "new image" for Mewtwo. This'll likely result in her appearing in the next ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' (thus acting as the old Mewtwo's ReplacementScrappy ''again''), and future depictions in other spinoffs and other media being based on her personality as well rather than the original Mewtwo.
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[[WMG: The scientists who created Mewtwotwo are (or are connected with) [[spoiler: "the other group who inquired about the legendary Pokemon years ago" mentioned in [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Pokemon X and Y]].]]]]
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[[WMG: There are 3 Mewtwos]]
The first is the original Cinnabar Island one in the games, the second is the New Island one in the First Movie and the third is the one in this movie.
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* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
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* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.met.
[[WMG: This Mewtwo is in love with Ash]]
1. it wouldn't be the first time a pokemon fell in love with him.
2. It stops fighting the Red Genesect only when Ash asks it. Only interfering when Genesect attacks again.
[[WMG: This Mewtwo is in love with Ash]]
1. it wouldn't be the first time a pokemon fell in love with him.
2. It stops fighting the Red Genesect only when Ash asks it. Only interfering when Genesect attacks again.
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...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
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* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
* Or, it could be the fact that Mewtwo didn't erase Ash's memories the second time they met.
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Stealth Insult Sinkholes directed at the people behind the movie. Creator Bashing is a big No-No on this site
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[[WMG: When the movie is dubbed, the translators will try and fix the mistake made in the original.]]
By retconning [[ReplacementScrappy Newtwo]] into the one from the first movie.
* Jossed, it's different.
By retconning [[ReplacementScrappy Newtwo]] into the one from the first movie.
* Jossed, it's different.
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[[WMG: In the event that PUSA is [[ScrewedBytheLawyers unable to/]][[ExecutiveMeddling not allowed to outright retcon Newtwo into Mewtwo]] as the second WMG postulates, or there isn't time to do so competently, they'll [[AuthorsSavingThrow at least try to connect the two felines' origins.]]]]
As for a possible way to do so...the movie could say that one of the scientists on the expedition to the ruins in [[PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] was on the other scientist's payroll and snipped a bit of Mew's eyelash off when no-one was looking so no-one would realize something was up. OR, they could just have the scientists loudly discuss the source of Newtwo's origins and their motives during [[spoiler: her flashback]].
* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.
As for a possible way to do so...the movie could say that one of the scientists on the expedition to the ruins in [[PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] was on the other scientist's payroll and snipped a bit of Mew's eyelash off when no-one was looking so no-one would realize something was up. OR, they could just have the scientists loudly discuss the source of Newtwo's origins and their motives during [[spoiler: her flashback]].
* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.
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How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
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How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].Phione]].
[[WMG: Ash remembers what Mewtwo is...]]
...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
[[WMG: Ash remembers what Mewtwo is...]]
...because his [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura capability]] prevented Original!Mewtwo's memory wipe from taking hold.
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They both have a similar voice and personality. In fact, Douse Drive Genesect has a strange fascination with white lily pad flowers. Could this be Snowdrop trying to remember her previous life?
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They both have a similar voice and personality. In fact, Douse Drive Genesect has a strange fascination with white lily pad flowers. Could this be Snowdrop trying to remember her previous life?life?
[[WMG:Mewtwo (in general) is a ''preevolved'' form of Mew]]
How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
[[WMG:Mewtwo (in general) is a ''preevolved'' form of Mew]]
How else could one explain that two scientist groups using two different procedures in two different environments using two different samples[[note]][[Anime/PokemonMewtwoStrikesBack Dr. Fuji]] had just an '''eyelash''[[/note]] end up with two specimens where the only significant differences are biological sex and the ability to use a SuperMode? [[OccamsRazor The easy way]] to get such results in game-canon is by breeding. And there is precedent for such: [[Videogame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Phione]].
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[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop]].
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[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop]].WebAnimation/{{Snowdrop}}.]]
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[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop.]]
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[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop.]]WebAnimation/Snowdrop]].
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Being a being of incomprehensible intelligence and physic power, it can probably change it's mental gender at will.
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Being a being of incomprehensible intelligence and physic power, it can probably change it's mental gender at will.will.
[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop.]]
They both have a similar voice and personality. In fact, Douse Drive Genesect has a strange fascination with white lily pad flowers. Could this be Snowdrop trying to remember her previous life?
[[WMG:Douse Drive Genesect was originally WebAnimation/Snowdrop.]]
They both have a similar voice and personality. In fact, Douse Drive Genesect has a strange fascination with white lily pad flowers. Could this be Snowdrop trying to remember her previous life?
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* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.
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* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.dub.
[[WMG:Newtwo is the original Mewtwo.]]
Being a being of incomprehensible intelligence and physic power, it can probably change it's mental gender at will.
[[WMG:Newtwo is the original Mewtwo.]]
Being a being of incomprehensible intelligence and physic power, it can probably change it's mental gender at will.
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** Jossed, it's different.
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As for a possible way to do so...the movie could say that one of the scientists on the expedition to the ruins in [[PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] was on the other scientist's payroll and snipped a bit of Mew's eyelash off when no-one was looking so no-one would realize something was up. OR, they could just have the scientists loudly discuss the source of Newtwo's origins and their motives during [[spoiler: her flashback]].
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As for a possible way to do so...the movie could say that one of the scientists on the expedition to the ruins in [[PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] was on the other scientist's payroll and snipped a bit of Mew's eyelash off when no-one was looking so no-one would realize something was up. OR, they could just have the scientists loudly discuss the source of Newtwo's origins and their motives during [[spoiler: her flashback]].flashback]].
* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.
* Nope, they don't do that in the dub.
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I didn\'t really explain myself that much on the new WMG, so I\'m taking out only what my details were and replacing them with actual details.
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[[WMG: In the event that PUSA is [[ScrewedBytheLawyers unable to/]][[ExecutiveMeddling not allowed to outright retcon Newtwo into Mewtwo]] as the second WMG postulates. or there isn't time to do so competently, they'll [[AuthorsSavingThrow at least try to connect the two felines' origins.]]]]
If it's all they can do, it's all they can do.
If it's all they can do, it's all they can do.
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[[WMG: In the event that PUSA is [[ScrewedBytheLawyers unable to/]][[ExecutiveMeddling not allowed to outright retcon Newtwo into Mewtwo]] as the second WMG postulates. postulates, or there isn't time to do so competently, they'll [[AuthorsSavingThrow at least try to connect the two felines' origins.]]]]
If it's all As for a possible way to do so...the movie could say that one of the scientists on the expedition to the ruins in [[PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] was on the other scientist's payroll and snipped a bit of Mew's eyelash off when no-one was looking so no-one would realize something was up. OR, they can do, it's all they can do.could just have the scientists loudly discuss the source of Newtwo's origins and their motives during [[spoiler: her flashback]].
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The thought just occured to me that there would be little time to hear out fan reaction and adjust the dub script accordingly.
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Because this movie shows that the writers (or the director, more specifically) can say "screw continuity" and expect to get away with it if they feel like it, and as such they would likely rather have a third Mewtwo beause they think it would be better that way. Oh, and don't expect much of an explanation for a third one's origin, either.
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Because this movie shows that the writers (or the director, more specifically) can say "screw continuity" and expect to get away with it if they feel like it, and as such they would likely rather have a third Mewtwo beause they think it would be better that way. Oh, and don't expect much of an explanation for a third one's origin, either.either.
[[WMG: In the event that PUSA is [[ScrewedBytheLawyers unable to/]][[ExecutiveMeddling not allowed to outright retcon Newtwo into Mewtwo]] as the second WMG postulates. or there isn't time to do so competently, they'll [[AuthorsSavingThrow at least try to connect the two felines' origins.]]]]
If it's all they can do, it's all they can do.
[[WMG: In the event that PUSA is [[ScrewedBytheLawyers unable to/]][[ExecutiveMeddling not allowed to outright retcon Newtwo into Mewtwo]] as the second WMG postulates. or there isn't time to do so competently, they'll [[AuthorsSavingThrow at least try to connect the two felines' origins.]]]]
If it's all they can do, it's all they can do.
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Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
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Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr.scientists (Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
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... In a showdown against this movie's Mega Mewtwo [[spoiler:Y]]. And [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny this is gonna be awesome]]!
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... In a showdown against this movie's Mega [[spoiler:Mega Mewtwo [[spoiler:Y]]. Y]]. And [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny this is gonna be awesome]]!awesome]]!
[[WMG: Alternatively, another Mewtwo will appear to showcase [[spoiler:Mega Mewtwo X]]]]
Because this movie shows that the writers (or the director, more specifically) can say "screw continuity" and expect to get away with it if they feel like it, and as such they would likely rather have a third Mewtwo beause they think it would be better that way. Oh, and don't expect much of an explanation for a third one's origin, either.
[[WMG: Alternatively, another Mewtwo will appear to showcase [[spoiler:Mega Mewtwo X]]]]
Because this movie shows that the writers (or the director, more specifically) can say "screw continuity" and expect to get away with it if they feel like it, and as such they would likely rather have a third Mewtwo beause they think it would be better that way. Oh, and don't expect much of an explanation for a third one's origin, either.
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Something just occurred me after Mewtwo\'s new reveal.
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Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
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Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.hatred.
[[WMG: The original Mewtwo will make a return in a future movie as [[spoiler:Mega Mewtwo X]]]]
... In a showdown against this movie's Mega Mewtwo [[spoiler:Y]]. And [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny this is gonna be awesome]]!
[[WMG: The original Mewtwo will make a return in a future movie as [[spoiler:Mega Mewtwo X]]]]
... In a showdown against this movie's Mega Mewtwo [[spoiler:Y]]. And [[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny this is gonna be awesome]]!
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[[WMG: One distinguishing factor: the old Mewtwo's Ability was Pressure, while the new Mewtwo's Ability is Unnerve.]]
The event distribution says it all.
[[WMG: When the movie is dubbed, the translators will try and fix the mistake made in the original.]]
By retconning [[ReplacementScrappy Newtwo]] into the one from the first movie.
[[WMG: The Mewtwo in this movie is cloned from [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew the Mew from Movie 8.]]]]
What fans tend to forget is that a second ''Mew'' was already introduced into the anime's canon; therefore, it's possible that the new Mewtwo is cloned from it rather than Movie 1's Mew or a generic Mew that merely exists for the backstory.
[[WMG: Anime [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Team Flare]] created Mewtwotwo.]]
How anyone officially got the data, we may never know, but Team Flare is said to do what they do for money, and even with [[spoiler: what Mewtwo did at the end of the first movie]], the fact remains that there was an explosion on New Island.
If a guess could be hazarded as to how, they probably hustled it & went there while Giovanni was conspiring with & decieving Mewtwo elsewhere, and may have discovered some sort of DNA leavings either within Mewtwo's tube or where Mewtwo was standing...somehow. Or maybe one of the computers wasn't completely destroyed. The Mew screen may even be extra DNA they found in the strand.
[[WMG: Mewtwo was originally planned to be the original, but the writers changed it [[MerchandiseDriven to sell more Mewtwo toys to little girls]].]]
Notice how the event Mewtwo associated with this movie has Hurricane, a move most likely based on the first movie rather than this one. It's quite likely that the writers, looking to shove as much merchandise as possible, decided that Genesect was enough for little boys and that there weren't enough cute girly Pokémon in the movie to appeal to little girls, so they decided to make Mewtwo into one. And as for why she has nothing to do with the old Mewtwo, [[ViewersAreMorons it's all part]] [[AnimationAgeGhetto of the same package]].
[[WMG: The Mewtwo in the film was created because the original Mewtwo erased Team Rocket's memories.]]
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
The event distribution says it all.
[[WMG: When the movie is dubbed, the translators will try and fix the mistake made in the original.]]
By retconning [[ReplacementScrappy Newtwo]] into the one from the first movie.
[[WMG: The Mewtwo in this movie is cloned from [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew the Mew from Movie 8.]]]]
What fans tend to forget is that a second ''Mew'' was already introduced into the anime's canon; therefore, it's possible that the new Mewtwo is cloned from it rather than Movie 1's Mew or a generic Mew that merely exists for the backstory.
[[WMG: Anime [[VideoGame/PokemonXandY Team Flare]] created Mewtwotwo.]]
How anyone officially got the data, we may never know, but Team Flare is said to do what they do for money, and even with [[spoiler: what Mewtwo did at the end of the first movie]], the fact remains that there was an explosion on New Island.
If a guess could be hazarded as to how, they probably hustled it & went there while Giovanni was conspiring with & decieving Mewtwo elsewhere, and may have discovered some sort of DNA leavings either within Mewtwo's tube or where Mewtwo was standing...somehow. Or maybe one of the computers wasn't completely destroyed. The Mew screen may even be extra DNA they found in the strand.
[[WMG: Mewtwo was originally planned to be the original, but the writers changed it [[MerchandiseDriven to sell more Mewtwo toys to little girls]].]]
Notice how the event Mewtwo associated with this movie has Hurricane, a move most likely based on the first movie rather than this one. It's quite likely that the writers, looking to shove as much merchandise as possible, decided that Genesect was enough for little boys and that there weren't enough cute girly Pokémon in the movie to appeal to little girls, so they decided to make Mewtwo into one. And as for why she has nothing to do with the old Mewtwo, [[ViewersAreMorons it's all part]] [[AnimationAgeGhetto of the same package]].
[[WMG: The Mewtwo in the film was created because the original Mewtwo erased Team Rocket's memories.]]
Team Rocket created Mewtwo because they found a sample of Mew. If they had no memory of creating Mewtwo the first time they'd try creating Mewtwo again and since it's ''their'' scientists(Dr. Fuji is nowhere to be found since he's dead) making the product their Mewtwo would sound closer to Mew whom Mewtwo is based on. And since ''this'' Mewtwo never met any other clones it merely has distrust of Humans instead of outright hatred.
