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First, look at regular Shaymin. Shy, small, and even girlish.
Now, look at its sky form. It has changed from a hedgehog to a deer!
It even has antlers, which usually go to the males of a species.
It's also obvious how masculine it is. Compare the voices in
"Giratina and the Sky Warrior." Shaymin's voice in its regular
form sounds feminine, while its sky form sounds tomboyish.
Its gained flying type could be a metaphor for freedom!
Its weakness against ice can actually stand for criticism.
* Or it is just "growing up" by evolving. Young boys voices are high, to the point where female actresses voice act young male characters. When a boy gets older his voice sounds deeper. Shaymin's sky forme is just it's version of maturation.

[[WMG: Spiritomb is not a Pokemon.]]
Spiritomb is actually many souls of different people bound within a keystone. It may even be a demon. The binding gave it special powers that caused it to be wrongly classified as a Pokemon.
* But it can breed! Perhaps the people/demon became a Pokemon?

to:

First, look at regular Shaymin. Shy, small, and even girlish.
girlish. Now, look at its sky form. It has changed from a hedgehog to a deer!
deer! It even has antlers, which usually go to the males of a species.
species. It's also obvious how masculine it is. Compare the voices in
"Giratina
in ''Giratina and the Sky Warrior." Warrior''. Shaymin's voice in its regular
regular form sounds feminine, while its sky form sounds tomboyish.
tomboyish. Its gained flying type could be a metaphor for freedom!
freedom! Its weakness against ice can actually stand for criticism.
* Or it is just "growing up" by evolving. Young boys boys' voices are high, to the point where female actresses voice act young male characters. When a boy gets older his voice sounds deeper. Shaymin's sky forme is just it's its version of maturation.

[[WMG: Spiritomb is not a Pokemon.Pokémon.]]
Spiritomb is actually many souls of different people bound within a keystone. It may even be a demon. The binding gave it special powers that caused it to be wrongly classified as a Pokemon.
Pokémon.
* But it can breed! Perhaps the people/demon became a Pokemon?
Pokémon?



[[WMG: Cherrim was going to be a Grass/Fire Pokemon, and its ability Flower Gift was meant to raise all stats in Sunny Weather]]
However, it was found to be so powerful in the alpha/beta testing stage, it was powered down. It [[GoneHorriblyRight went too well.]]

[[WMG: Cyrus was the developer of Porygon-Z.]]
Porygon-Z is created by trading Porygon2 with a Dubious Disk found in the Galactic Headquarters in Veilstone. Porygon2 is created by trading Porygon with an Upgrade that you can find in the Galactic Building in Eterna. In Platinum, a guy in Veilstone offers to give you a Porygon that he found by the Galactic Headquarters.

So, ''someone'' in Team Galactic wanted a Porygon, and had the means to upgrade it, and had developed a mod to upgrade it further.

By know-how alone, Cyrus is the most likely candidate, due to his canon affinity for machines and programming. Simulating or replicating emotional thought has been one of the biggest hurdles to overcome in Artificial Intelligence research, so Cyrus could consider Porygon an excellent parallel to his EmotionSuppression philosophies. Lastly, the Porygon-Z mod on the Dubious Disk was meant to upgrade it so it would be able to travel into other dimensions... maybe to escape the destruction/recreation of the universe, and assist Cyrus in doing so.

Long story short, Cyrus developed the Dubious Disk. The Porygon you got in Platinum was supposed to be his test specimen, but he obviously never got it (and then [[KleptomaniacHero you took the Upgrade and the Dubious Disk, too]]).

* Perhaps it was a counter-measure for Giratina's interference. Obviously Cyrus didn't know Giratina was ''going'' to interfere but he could have predicted it ''might'' do. It would have been useful to create a cybernetic Pokemon that could survive inside the Distortion World and enough Sp. Attack to potentially fight Giratina itself. It would even be immune to Giratina's signature attack.

[[WMG: Drifloon and Drifblim are [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons.]] ]]
They're ghosts that steal children and take them to the underworld. That sounds like a demon to me. Presumably they take the form of balloons because nobody would take them seriously.
* They'd take the form of balloons because small children are fascinated by balloons.

[[WMG: Dialga is a JustForFun/TimeLord[=/=]TARDIS in Pokemon form.]]
It is blue, has time powers, and its usual Trope Tradition to guess a character from any given series to be a Time Lord.

[[WMG: The Rotom's appliances in Shopping Mall Nine are V 2.0 of the ones in Eterna Galatic Hideout and Silph Company]]
Features of V 2.0 includes changing Rotom's secondary type.

[[WMG: Leafeon and Glaceon were introduced to form Trios with Flareon and another Kanto Eeveelution]]
Leafeon not only was requested by fans so many, but it makes a trio of sorts with [[MakingASplash Vaporeon]] and [[PlayingWithFire Flareon]], in a trio similar to Starter Trios by type. Glaceon forms a FireIceLightning trio with aforementioned Flareon and [[ShockAndAwe Jolteon]].

[[WMG: [[CrystalDragonJesus The Sinnoh legendaries represent different Abrahamic concepts.]] ]]
* Arceus is naturally God. He's the Alpha Pokemon, banished [[SatanicArchetype Giratina]] and his home (the Hall of Origins) has a glass floor... possibly referencing the glass lake/sea seen in the Revelation vision of Heaven. The white fur may be the Pokemon equivalent of [[GrandpaGod the bearded guy]] we usually see the Lord as.
* Dialga and Palkia are archangels. A number of extra-biblical stories have angels [[CouncilOfAngels help construct the universe for God]], and Dialga/Palkia shaped time and space for Arceus. Guessing they are Michael and Uriel respectively, and take your guess on which is which.
* Giratina is [[SatanicArchetype Satan.]] Both him and Satan are dragons who, when banished to the Distortion World/Hell respectively became legless serpents. Giratina is more powerful than Dialga and Palkia(it managed to stop them when Cyrus was using them [[OmnicidalManiac to recreate the universe]]), and they represent archangels. Who is considered the most powerful, greatest archangel? Lucifer aka Satan
* The lake trio represent the three different parts of God's almighty nature. Uxie represents God's omniscience (it brought knowledge), Mesprit represents omnipresence (it brought emotion, which is in everyone) and Azelf represents omnipotence (it brought will, and thus is the controlling force behind everyone). The lethal power of God is represented in what happens when you screw with them:
** Uxie opening its eyes is the free will issue of God: if He uses His full all-knowingness to read your thoughts, you lose free will and aren't really you, represented in the "wiping your memory" aspect.
** Mesprit being touched is unclear, but it may have something to do with reaching God face to face-you are wiped out/[[MindRape mind-raped]] into being an emotionless mind-slave of God. Or something, I'm not entirely sure
** Azelf being harmed represents Hell. If you hurt God, God punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you effectively immobile.]] If you hurt Azelf, Azelf punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you immobile.]]
* Heatran is Adam. Heatran was born at the beginning of the world, like Adam. Much like how Adam was created with the Earth, so was Heatran -- however, Adam was formed from the Earth when it was much like our own, Heatran was formed from the molten Earth and thus is made out of lava and steel.
* Just like the legendary golems, Regigigas is a golem as well. It is an avatar for God's chosen people, the Jews, having suffered throughout history (it and the legendary golems were locked away).
* Manaphy and Phione are antediluvian and post-diluvian people. According to the Bible, [[MethuselahSyndrome people lived much longer]] and were more powerful, and the people afterwards would be considered meek. The old world was wiped out by a flood, and as such Manaphy(that old world) is associated with the antediluvian people-hence why you cannot reproduce them, and only get their descendants (Phione/post-Flood man). Manaphy could be considered Noah.
* Cresselia and Darkrai are Archangel Gabriel and Raphael respectively. Prophetic visions often appear in dreams, and Gabriel was the one who came to the Virgin Mary in a vision. Rapahel is an angel that causes nightmares, [[DarkIsNotEvil but is benevolent]] like Darkrai. Also in the anime Darkrai was owned by Tobias, who was guarded by Raphael.

[[WMG: If/When Gen 4 gets remade, Arceus will have a Mega Evolution-]]
-or Primal Reversion, an exclusive to it; something. Why? Because if nothing else, it's implied to be the creator of the Pokémon universe on some scale, and when you compare the stats of base Pokemon only, Arceus is the strongest. Going beyond that, currently it's overshadowed by specific [[SuperMode Mega Evolutions]] (both Mewtwo's and Rayquaza's)... but if it had it's own form (aside from the plates), then just imagine.
* Sadly {{Jossed}}. Megas and Primals aren't featured in [=BDSP=].

[[WMG: Giratina's "violence" was the result of it [[GoMadFromTheRevelation going mad from the revelation]]]]
Giratina, despite EldritchAbomination extraordinaire and sole inhabitant of an EldritchLocation where the rules of reality are out to lunch cannot comprehend the rules of our own reality and thus lashes out without the help of a trainer when in our realm.

[[WMG: Garchomp is the ancestor of Carvanha and Sharpedo.]]
* Garchomp resembles a cross between a hammerhead shark and a dinosaur. Some dinosaurs that lived in water were ancestors of fish (in a similar way that whales are descended from land mammals). Carvanha's coloration is exactly the same as Garchomp's and Sharpedo has some similarities in its design to Gible.

[[WMG: Heatran is not a true legendary.]]
A vast colony of Heatran live and breed deep in the planet’s core. It’s considered legendary because they almost never come up to the surface. Those that do breach the surface are feared and heralded for the power they’ve built up living so deep underground. Heatran only breed in the intense heat and gravity of the planet’s core, which is why captive ones never breed despite having genders.
* Heatran is pretty well-equipped to survive deep inside the planet, now that I think about it. It's short, bulky, and has thick limbs, letting it survive and move around under intense pressure; it's partially made of metal, which melts only at very high temperatures; and with Flash Fire, it can both protect itself from intense heat damage and power itself up using heat energy. With so little organic matter existing deep underground, maybe Flash Fire absorption is how Heatran "feeds."

[[WMG: There are no true male Buneary or Lopunny]]
The "gender" is whether it can by default incubate a fertilized egg cell or send its egg cell to the other. During a crisis with none of the other "gender" around they can reproduce asexually, or with a massive amount of "males" they can switch to "female".

[[WMG: Manaphy is the child of Kyogre and Palkia]]
Palkia and Kyogre had a fling, and Manaphy was born from it, he's the prince of the sea because his parents are legendary Water-types and the only members of their respective species. If Palkia and Kyogre ended up having another child (easy since they're curretly caught by May Birch and Dawn Berlitz) the child will be another form of Manaphy which will breed to make another form of Phione.
* Two Manaphy of different forms will end up breeding a generic Manaphy form known as "Hybrid Manaphy".

[[WMG: [[Webcomic/AwfulHospital Bogleech]] is right about Lucario. Metaphorically.]]
It's in a situation similar to Mimikyu. It has a terrifying true form, but molds its body based on what it sees regarding people's likes and dislikes through its ability to read Aura. It tries to match everyone's likes, and the end result is a ridiculously popular Pokémon that's actually kinda boring if you dig under the surface.

[[WMG: Throughout Sinnoh's history, many have journeyed to Acuity Cavern...]]
...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone instead of running away from the past, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Giratina Guesses]]



[[WMG: Giratina is the guardian of the underworld.]]
In Diamond and Pearl, and if you fail to capture Giratina in the Distortion World, its at Turnback Cave/Sendoff Spring. The place is heavily implied to be the gateway to this world and the afterlife. The region also has a number of Ghost type Pokemon, most notably Duskull and Dusclops. Their evolution Dusknoir is stated to be the GrimReaper/Shinigami of Pokemon. Giratina's very apperance [[Dracolich seems to be undead]], and its Ghost type may not only refer to [[EldritchAbomination how out of place it is.]] Far from being the Satan of the franchise, Giratina is the guardian of the underworld, protecting the barriers between life and death. The Distortion World may be the underworld, but its just as possible that it may simply direct to the underworld.

[[WMG: Giratina isn't Satan.]]
Yeah, I know, [[NumberOfTheBeast six legs/ribs/wings]], banished for his violence, but beyond that Giratina doesn't really fit the position of Satan. While Satan [[TheDevilIsALoser has less chance of beating God than a Magikarp]], Giratina is equal in strength(if not superior given his intervention in Platinum) to Dialga and Palkia, and only Black/White Kyurem and [[{{God}} Arceus]] are stronger. The Distortion world isn't [[Hell Naraka]]. While violent, Giratina is actually part of the CelestialBureaucracy as [[CosmicEntity God of Antimatter]] instead of an outcast/rebel-his violence comes from [[ObsessivelyOrganized an obsession of order]] rather than being the total villain that Satan is typically envisioned as. Much like how Arceus is a more generic version of TheMaker instead of the omnipotent, Biblical God, Giratina is less the Devil and more an amalgamation of grumpy, temperamental and [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] gods. Giratina being treated as a Satan expy comes from the same reason why [[TricksterArchetype trickster figures like Loki]] and [[TheGrimReaper death embodiments]] are treated as Satan: HijackedByJesus, or rather [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Hijacked By]] [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Ahura Mazda.]]

[[WMG: Giratina was once human...]]
Okay, here we go with this...
Team Galactic existed in the past, but back then no trainer stopped them. The Distortion World was the original world, warped to be without spirit. But then the former leader of Team Galactic, when without spirit, was an empty husk. From the Hall of Origin, Arceus created a new world, made of normal matter, and made the former Team Galactic leader Giratina and isolated him/her/it in its Distortion World.

Centuries later, Giratina, regaining memories of its former life, starts using its space-warping powers in an effort to make its former dream a reality, and potentially create a friend for itself. But then, you come along, destroy Team Galactic again, and become a friend for Giratina. In doing this, Giratina's wrath and hatred was satisfied, and it was finally ready to put its [[DarkAndTroubledPast Dark and Troubled Past]] behind it.

[[WMG: The Distortion World is the afterlife. Giratina is the god of the underworld.]]
You find Giratina in Diamond and Pearl, in Turnback Cave. It appears in an ancient cemetery. There's a lot of spooky elements to it. The Distortion World that you see is actually the afterlife itself. What you see is simply Giratina's personal domain, where [[EldritchAbomination its mere presence]] is distorting the nearby reality. Beyond it is the rest of the Pokemon afterlife, where the souls of people and Pokemon who passed on live. Those souls known to stay away from the temperamental Renegade Pokemon, and the recent chaos from Cyrus's attempt at recreating the cosmos. Cyrus's loathing of spirit means he refuses to believe in an afterlife, however once things return to normal he's going to be in a nasty surprise upon learning the afterlife exists and he's most likely stuck there. [[FridgeHorror His plan to destroy and recreate the universe would've also destroyed and recreated the afterlife]]. The different laws of gravity and time were put there to better accommodate all the souls.

[[WMG: Giratina wasn't banished to the Distortion World; it lives there.]]
Come on -- its Distortion World form is called "Origin". If it's not originally from the Distortion World, why would it be called that? Additionally, it does not actually seem trapped there; it has no trouble popping out to abduct Cyrus, after all. (Plus, saving reality seems rather out of character for a banished demon seeking to spite the creator god.) It stays in the Distortion World because that's its natural habitat; as the god of antimatter/spirits/whatever it's more suited to that world than this one. The humans who made the myths only ''assumed'' that such a scary-looking creature must have been banished, but they were incorrect.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Arceus Guesses]]



So, after the events of the first movie, he goes off with all the clones he made to do what exactly? Well, clearly he is doing something, and it has something to do with doing the same with other frauds attempting to build themselves up as Gods. Think of him as the [[{{DarkMessiah}} Dark Messiah]] in this case. With all the new Pokemon coming up each generation, you can't honestly believe that he'd be ignorant of their existence, or of the new legendaries? Not only is he learning of these new legendaries from other Pokemon or from sneaking around in society unnoticed and gaining the information from the humans who know of these legends, but also has decided to find out whether these legends were true.

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So, after the events of the first movie, he goes off with all the clones he made to do what exactly? Well, clearly he is doing something, and it has something to do with doing the same with other frauds attempting to build themselves up as Gods. Think of him as the [[{{DarkMessiah}} Dark Messiah]] DarkMessiah in this case. With all the new Pokemon coming up each generation, you can't honestly believe that he'd be ignorant of their existence, or of the new legendaries? Not only is he learning of these new legendaries from other Pokemon or from sneaking around in society unnoticed and gaining the information from the humans who know of these legends, but also has decided to find out whether these legends were true.



[[WMG: Cherrim was going to be a Grass/Fire Pokemon, and its ability Flower Gift was meant to raise all stats in Sunny Weather]]
However, it was found to be so powerful in the alpha/beta testing stage, it was powered down. It [[GoneHorriblyRight went too well.]]

[[WMG: Cyrus was the developer of Porygon-Z.]]
Porygon-Z is created by trading Porygon2 with a Dubious Disk found in the Galactic Headquarters in Veilstone. Porygon2 is created by trading Porygon with an Upgrade that you can find in the Galactic Building in Eterna. In Platinum, a guy in Veilstone offers to give you a Porygon that he found by the Galactic Headquarters.

So, ''someone'' in Team Galactic wanted a Porygon, and had the means to upgrade it, and had developed a mod to upgrade it further.

By know-how alone, Cyrus is the most likely candidate, due to his canon affinity for machines and programming. Simulating or replicating emotional thought has been one of the biggest hurdles to overcome in Artificial Intelligence research, so Cyrus could consider Porygon an excellent parallel to his EmotionSuppression philosophies. Lastly, the Porygon-Z mod on the Dubious Disk was meant to upgrade it so it would be able to travel into other dimensions... maybe to escape the destruction/recreation of the universe, and assist Cyrus in doing so.

Long story short, Cyrus developed the Dubious Disk. The Porygon you got in Platinum was supposed to be his test specimen, but he obviously never got it (and then [[KleptomaniacHero you took the Upgrade and the Dubious Disk, too]]).

* Perhaps it was a counter-measure for Giratina's interference. Obviously Cyrus didn't know Giratina was ''going'' to interfere but he could have predicted it ''might'' do. It would have been useful to create a cybernetic Pokemon that could survive inside the Distortion World and enough Sp. Attack to potentially fight Giratina itself. It would even be immune to Giratina's signature attack.



Pokemon, especially legendary ones, have been shown to do great things in cut scenes. Maybe he's beatable by players because Gamefreak [[GameplayAndStorySegregation cared more about catching and trading than plot.]] [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration Maybe he's just holding back because Pokemon battles are for sport, not to the death.]] Pokemon are mysterious beings even to the people in the game, they don't fully understand how they work or where they came from yet(even Porygon is buggy). There is no reason Arceus can't have god-like power but still be subject to the some of the same basic rules of other Pokemon.

[[WMG: Drifloon and Drifblim are [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons.]] ]]
They're ghosts that steal children and take them to the underworld. That sounds like a demon to me. Presumably they take the form of balloons because nobody would take them seriously.
* They'd take the form of balloons because small children are fascinated by balloons.

[[WMG: Dialga is a JustForFun/TimeLord[=/=]TARDIS in Pokemon form.]]
It is blue, has time powers, and its usual Trope Tradition to guess a character from any given series to be a Time Lord.

[[WMG: The Rotom's appliances in Shopping Mall Nine are V 2.0 of the ones in Eterna Galatic Hideout and Silph Company]]
Features of V 2.0 includes changing Rotom's secondary type.

[[WMG: Leafeon and Glaceon were introduced to form Trios with Flareon and another Kanto Eeveelution]]
Leafeon not only was requested by fans so many, but it makes a trio of sorts with [[MakingASplash Vaporeon]] and [[PlayingWithFire Flareon]], in a trio similar to Starter Trios by type. Glaceon forms a FireIceLightning trio with aforementioned Flareon and [[ShockAndAwe Jolteon]].

[[WMG: Giratina is the guardian of the underworld.]]
In Diamond and Pearl, and if you fail to capture Giratina in the Distortion World, its at Turnback Cave/Sendoff Spring. The place is heavily implied to be the gateway to this world and the afterlife. The region also has a number of Ghost type Pokemon, most notably Duskull and Dusclops. Their evolution Dusknoir is stated to be the GrimReaper/Shinigami of Pokemon. Giratina's very apperance [[Dracolich seems to be undead]], and its Ghost type may not only refer to [[EldritchAbomination how out of place it is.]] Far from being the Satan of the franchise, Giratina is the guardian of the underworld, protecting the barriers between life and death. The Distortion World may be the underworld, but its just as possible that it may simply direct to the underworld.

[[WMG: Giratina isn't Satan.]]
Yeah, I know, [[NumberOfTheBeast six legs/ribs/wings]], banished for his violence, but beyond that Giratina doesn't really fit the position of Satan. While Satan [[TheDevilIsALoser has less chance of beating God than a Magikarp]], Giratina is equal in strength(if not superior given his intervention in Platinum) to Dialga and Palkia, and only Black/White Kyurem and [[{{God}} Arceus]] are stronger. The Distortion world isn't [[Hell Naraka]]. While violent, Giratina is actually part of the CelestialBureaucracy as [[CosmicEntity God of Antimatter]] instead of an outcast/rebel-his violence comes from [[ObsessivelyOrganized an obsession of order]] rather than being the total villain that Satan is typically envisioned as. Much like how Arceus is a more generic version of TheMaker instead of the omnipotent, Biblical God, Giratina is less the Devil and more an amalgamation of grumpy, temperamental and [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] gods. Giratina being treated as a Satan expy comes from the same reason why [[TricksterArchetype trickster figures like Loki]] and [[TheGrimReaper death embodiments]] are treated as Satan: HijackedByJesus, or rather [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Hijacked By]] [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Ahura Mazda.]]

to:

Pokemon, especially legendary ones, have been shown to do great things in cut scenes. cutscenes. Maybe he's beatable by players because Gamefreak [[GameplayAndStorySegregation cared more about catching and trading than plot.]] plot]]. [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration Maybe he's just holding back because Pokemon Pokémon battles are for sport, not to the death.]] Pokemon Pokémon are mysterious beings even to the people in the game, they don't fully understand how they work or where they came from yet(even yet (even Porygon is buggy). There is no reason Arceus can't have god-like power but still be subject to the some of the same basic rules of other Pokemon.

[[WMG: Drifloon and Drifblim are [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons.]] ]]
They're ghosts that steal children and take them to the underworld. That sounds like a demon to me. Presumably they take the form of balloons because nobody would take them seriously.
* They'd take the form of balloons because small children are fascinated by balloons.

[[WMG: Dialga is a JustForFun/TimeLord[=/=]TARDIS in Pokemon form.]]
It is blue, has time powers, and its usual Trope Tradition to guess a character from any given series to be a Time Lord.

[[WMG: The Rotom's appliances in Shopping Mall Nine are V 2.0 of the ones in Eterna Galatic Hideout and Silph Company]]
Features of V 2.0 includes changing Rotom's secondary type.

[[WMG: Leafeon and Glaceon were introduced to form Trios with Flareon and another Kanto Eeveelution]]
Leafeon not only was requested by fans so many, but it makes a trio of sorts with [[MakingASplash Vaporeon]] and [[PlayingWithFire Flareon]], in a trio similar to Starter Trios by type. Glaceon forms a FireIceLightning trio with aforementioned Flareon and [[ShockAndAwe Jolteon]].

[[WMG: Giratina is the guardian of the underworld.]]
In Diamond and Pearl, and if you fail to capture Giratina in the Distortion World, its at Turnback Cave/Sendoff Spring. The place is heavily implied to be the gateway to this world and the afterlife. The region also has a number of Ghost type Pokemon, most notably Duskull and Dusclops. Their evolution Dusknoir is stated to be the GrimReaper/Shinigami of Pokemon. Giratina's very apperance [[Dracolich seems to be undead]], and its Ghost type may not only refer to [[EldritchAbomination how out of place it is.]] Far from being the Satan of the franchise, Giratina is the guardian of the underworld, protecting the barriers between life and death. The Distortion World may be the underworld, but its just as possible that it may simply direct to the underworld.

[[WMG: Giratina isn't Satan.]]
Yeah, I know, [[NumberOfTheBeast six legs/ribs/wings]], banished for his violence, but beyond that Giratina doesn't really fit the position of Satan. While Satan [[TheDevilIsALoser has less chance of beating God than a Magikarp]], Giratina is equal in strength(if not superior given his intervention in Platinum) to Dialga and Palkia, and only Black/White Kyurem and [[{{God}} Arceus]] are stronger. The Distortion world isn't [[Hell Naraka]]. While violent, Giratina is actually part of the CelestialBureaucracy as [[CosmicEntity God of Antimatter]] instead of an outcast/rebel-his violence comes from [[ObsessivelyOrganized an obsession of order]] rather than being the total villain that Satan is typically envisioned as. Much like how Arceus is a more generic version of TheMaker instead of the omnipotent, Biblical God, Giratina is less the Devil and more an amalgamation of grumpy, temperamental and [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] gods. Giratina being treated as a Satan expy comes from the same reason why [[TricksterArchetype trickster figures like Loki]] and [[TheGrimReaper death embodiments]] are treated as Satan: HijackedByJesus, or rather [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Hijacked By]] [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Ahura Mazda.]]
Pokémon.



[[WMG: Giratina was once human...]]
Okay, here we go with this...
Team Galactic existed in the past, but back then no trainer stopped them. The Distortion World was the original world, warped to be without spirit. But then the former leader of Team Galactic, when without spirit, was an empty husk. From the Hall of Origin, Arceus created a new world, made of normal matter, and made the former Team Galactic leader Giratina and isolated him/her/it in its Distortion World.

Centuries later, Giratina, regaining memories of its former life, starts using its space-warping powers in an effort to make its former dream a reality, and potentially create a friend for itself. But then, you come along, destroy Team Galactic again, and become a friend for Giratina. In doing this, Giratina's wrath and hatred was satisfied, and it was finally ready to put its [[DarkAndTroubledPast Dark and Troubled Past]] behind it.

[[WMG: [[CrystalDragonJesus The Sinnoh legendaries represent different Abrahamic concepts.]] ]]
* Arceus is naturally God. He's the Alpha Pokemon, banished [[SatanicArchetype Giratina]] and his home(aka the Hall of Origins) has a glass floor...possibly referencing the glass lake/sea seen in the Revelation vision of Heaven. The white fur may be the Pokemon equivalent of [[GrandpaGod the bearded guy]] we usually see the Lord as.
* Dialga and Palkia are archangels. A number of extra-biblical stories have angels [[CouncilOfAngels help construct the universe for God]], and Dialga/Palkia shaped time and space for Arceus. Guessing they are Michael and Uriel respectively, and take your guess on which is which.
* Giratina is [[SatanicArchetype Satan.]] Both him and Satan are dragons who, when banished to the Distortion World/Hell respectively became legless serpents. Giratina is more powerful than Dialga and Palkia(it managed to stop them when Cyrus was using them [[OmnicidalManiac to recreate the universe]]), and they represent archangels. Who is considered the most powerful, greatest archangel? Lucifer aka Satan
* The lake trio represent the three different parts of God's almighty nature. Uxie represents God's omniscience(it brought knowledge), Mesprit represents omnipresence(it brought emotion, which is in everyone) and Azelf represents omnipotence(it brought will, and thus is the controlling force behind everyone). The lethal power of God is represented in what happens when you screw with them:
** Uxie opening its eyes is the free will issue of God: if He uses His full all-knowingness to read your thoughts, you lose free will and aren't really you, represented in the "wiping your memory" aspect.
** Mesprit being touched is unclear, but it may have something to do with reaching God face to face-you are wiped out/[[MindRape mind-raped]] into being an emotionless mind-slave of God. Or something, I'm not entirely sure
** Azelf being harmed represents Hell. If you hurt God, God punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you effectively immobile.]] If you hurt Azelf, Azelf punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you immobile.]]
* Heatran is Adam. Heatran was born at the beginning of the world, like Adam. Much like how Adam was created with the Earth, so was Heatran-however Adam was formed from the Earth when it was much like our own, Heatran was formed from the molten Earth and thus is made out of lava and steel.
* Just like the legendary golems, Regigigas is a golem as well. It is an avatar for God's chosen people, the Jews, having suffered throughout history(it and the legendary golems were locked away).
* Manaphy and Phione are antediluvian and post-diluvian people. According to the Bible, [[MethuselahSyndrome people lived much longer]] and were more powerful, and the people afterwards would be considered meek. The old world was wiped out by a flood, and as such Manaphy(that old world) is associated with the antediluvian people-hence why you cannot reproduce them, and only get their descendants(Phione/Post-Flood man). Manaphy could be considered Noah.
* Cresselia and Darkrai are Archangel Gabriel and Raphael respectively. Prophetic visions often appear in dreams, and Gabriel was the one who came to the Virgin Mary in a vision. Rapahel is an angel that causes nightmares, [[DarkIsNotEvil but is benevolent]] like Darkrai. Also in the anime Darkrai was owned by Tobias, who was guarded by Raphael.

[[WMG: If/When Gen 4 gets remade, Arceus will have a Mega Evolution-]]
-or Primal Reversion, an exclusive to it; something. Why? Because if nothing else, it's implied to be the creator of the Pokemon universe on some scale, and when you compare the stats of base Pokemon only, Arceus is the strongest. Going beyond that, currently it's overshadowed by specific [[SuperMode Mega Evolutions]] (both Mewtwo's, and Rayquaza)... but if it had it's own form (aside from the plates), then just imagine.
* Sadly {{Jossed}}. Megas and Primals aren't featured in [=BDSP=].

[[WMG: Giratina's "violence" was the result of it [[GoMadFromTheRevelation going mad from the revelation]]]]
Giratina, despite EldritchAbomination extraordinaire and sole inhabitant of an EldritchLocation where the rules of reality are out to lunch cannot comprehend the rules of our own reality and thus lashes out without the help of a trainer when in our realm.

[[WMG: Garchomp is the ancestor of Carvanha and Sharpedo.]]
* Garchomp resembles a cross between a hammerhead shark and a dinosaur. Some dinosaurs that lived in water were ancestors of fish (in a similar way that whales are descended from land mammals). Carvanha's coloration is exactly the same as Garchomp's and Sharpedo has some similarities in its design to Gible.

[[WMG: The "Arceus" we capture is only one of the True Arceus arms.]]
* The thousand Arceus arms may be figurative, like someone is someone else "right arm" or in a less sybolic way, an actual limb in Hive Mind or transcendent link of true Arceus, who is in his own dimension like in the anime and his arms are all shatered around the infinite universe.
** This is implied to be the case from text in ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus''. [[spoiler:Before catching Arceus, it says it will "allow a shard of itself to walk with you", implying that's not the whole of its being.]]

[[WMG: Heatran is not a true legendary.]]
A vast colony of Heatran live and breed deep in the planet’s core. It’s considered legendary because they almost never come up to the surface. Those that do breach the surface are feared and heralded for the power they’ve built up living so deep underground. Heatran only breed in the intense heat and gravity of the planet’s core, which is why captive ones never breed despite having genders.
* Heatran is pretty well-equipped to survive deep inside the planet, now that I think about it. It's short, bulky, and has thick limbs, letting it survive and move around under intense pressure; it's partially made of metal, which melts only at very high temperatures; and with Flash Fire, it can both protect itself from intense heat damage and power itself up using heat energy. With so little organic matter existing deep underground, maybe Flash Fire absorption is how Heatran "feeds."

[[WMG: Their are no true Male Buneary or Lopunny]]
The "gender" is whether it can by default incubate a fertilized egg cell or send it's egg cell to the other. During a crisis with none of the other "gender" around they can reproduce asexually, or with a massive amount of "males" they can switch to "female".

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[[WMG: Giratina was once human...The "Arceus" we capture is only one of the True Arceus' arms.]]
Okay, here we go with this...
Team Galactic existed in the past, but back then no trainer stopped them. The Distortion World was the original world, warped to be without spirit. But then the former leader of Team Galactic, when without spirit, was an empty husk. From the Hall of Origin, Arceus created a new world, made of normal matter, and made the former Team Galactic leader Giratina and isolated him/her/it in its Distortion World.

Centuries later, Giratina, regaining memories of its former life, starts using its space-warping powers in an effort to make its former dream a reality, and potentially create a friend for itself. But then, you come along, destroy Team Galactic again, and become a friend for Giratina. In doing this, Giratina's wrath and hatred was satisfied, and it was finally ready to put its [[DarkAndTroubledPast Dark and Troubled Past]] behind it.

[[WMG: [[CrystalDragonJesus The Sinnoh legendaries represent different Abrahamic concepts.]] ]]
* Arceus is naturally God. He's the Alpha Pokemon, banished [[SatanicArchetype Giratina]] and his home(aka the Hall of Origins) has a glass floor...possibly referencing the glass lake/sea seen in the Revelation vision of Heaven. The white fur may be the Pokemon equivalent of [[GrandpaGod the bearded guy]] we usually see the Lord as.
* Dialga and Palkia are archangels. A number of extra-biblical stories have angels [[CouncilOfAngels help construct the universe for God]], and Dialga/Palkia shaped time and space for Arceus. Guessing they are Michael and Uriel respectively, and take your guess on which is which.
* Giratina is [[SatanicArchetype Satan.]] Both him and Satan are dragons who, when banished to the Distortion World/Hell respectively became legless serpents. Giratina is more powerful than Dialga and Palkia(it managed to stop them when Cyrus was using them [[OmnicidalManiac to recreate the universe]]), and they represent archangels. Who is considered the most powerful, greatest archangel? Lucifer aka Satan
* The lake trio represent the three different parts of God's almighty nature. Uxie represents God's omniscience(it brought knowledge), Mesprit represents omnipresence(it brought emotion, which is in everyone) and Azelf represents omnipotence(it brought will, and thus is the controlling force behind everyone). The lethal power of God is represented in what happens when you screw with them:
** Uxie opening its eyes is the free will issue of God: if He uses His full all-knowingness to read your thoughts, you lose free will and aren't really you, represented in the "wiping your memory" aspect.
** Mesprit being touched is unclear, but it may have something to do with reaching God face to face-you are wiped out/[[MindRape mind-raped]] into being an emotionless mind-slave of God. Or something, I'm not entirely sure
** Azelf being harmed represents Hell. If you hurt God, God punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you effectively immobile.]] If you hurt Azelf, Azelf punishes you by [[AndIMustScream making you immobile.]]
* Heatran is Adam. Heatran was born at the beginning of the world, like Adam. Much like how Adam was created with the Earth, so was Heatran-however Adam was formed from the Earth when it was much like our own, Heatran was formed from the molten Earth and thus is made out of lava and steel.
* Just like the legendary golems, Regigigas is a golem as well. It is an avatar for God's chosen people, the Jews, having suffered throughout history(it and the legendary golems were locked away).
* Manaphy and Phione are antediluvian and post-diluvian people. According to the Bible, [[MethuselahSyndrome people lived much longer]] and were more powerful, and the people afterwards would be considered meek. The old world was wiped out by a flood, and as such Manaphy(that old world) is associated with the antediluvian people-hence why you cannot reproduce them, and only get their descendants(Phione/Post-Flood man). Manaphy could be considered Noah.
* Cresselia and Darkrai are Archangel Gabriel and Raphael respectively. Prophetic visions often appear in dreams, and Gabriel was the one who came to the Virgin Mary in a vision. Rapahel is an angel that causes nightmares, [[DarkIsNotEvil but is benevolent]] like Darkrai. Also in the anime Darkrai was owned by Tobias, who was guarded by Raphael.

[[WMG: If/When Gen 4 gets remade, Arceus will have a Mega Evolution-]]
-or Primal Reversion, an exclusive to it; something. Why? Because if nothing else, it's implied to be the creator of the Pokemon universe on some scale, and when you compare the stats of base Pokemon only, Arceus is the strongest. Going beyond that, currently it's overshadowed by specific [[SuperMode Mega Evolutions]] (both Mewtwo's, and Rayquaza)... but if it had it's own form (aside from the plates), then just imagine.
* Sadly {{Jossed}}. Megas and Primals aren't featured in [=BDSP=].

[[WMG: Giratina's "violence" was the result of it [[GoMadFromTheRevelation going mad from the revelation]]]]
Giratina, despite EldritchAbomination extraordinaire and sole inhabitant of an EldritchLocation where the rules of reality are out to lunch cannot comprehend the rules of our own reality and thus lashes out without the help of a trainer when in our realm.

[[WMG: Garchomp is the ancestor of Carvanha and Sharpedo.]]
* Garchomp resembles a cross between a hammerhead shark and a dinosaur. Some dinosaurs that lived in water were ancestors of fish (in a similar way that whales are descended from land mammals). Carvanha's coloration is exactly the same as Garchomp's and Sharpedo has some similarities in its design to Gible.

[[WMG: The "Arceus" we capture is only one of the True Arceus arms.]]
*
The thousand Arceus arms may be figurative, like someone is someone else "right arm" or in a less sybolic way, an actual limb in Hive Mind or transcendent link of true Arceus, who is in his own dimension like in the anime and his arms are all shatered around the infinite universe.
** * This is implied to be the case from text in ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus''. [[spoiler:Before catching Arceus, it says it will "allow a shard of itself to walk with you", implying that's not the whole of its being.]]

[[WMG: Heatran is not a true legendary.
]]
A vast colony of Heatran live and breed deep in the planet’s core. It’s considered legendary because they almost never come up to the surface. Those that do breach the surface are feared and heralded for the power they’ve built up living so deep underground. Heatran only breed in the intense heat and gravity of the planet’s core, which is why captive ones never breed despite having genders.
* Heatran is pretty well-equipped to survive deep inside the planet, now that I think about it. It's short, bulky, and has thick limbs, letting it survive and move around under intense pressure; it's partially made of metal, which melts only at very high temperatures; and with Flash Fire, it can both protect itself from intense heat damage and power itself up using heat energy. With so little organic matter existing deep underground, maybe Flash Fire absorption is how Heatran "feeds."

[[WMG: Their are no true Male Buneary or Lopunny]]
The "gender" is whether it can by default incubate a fertilized egg cell or send it's egg cell to the other. During a crisis with none of the other "gender" around they can reproduce asexually, or with a massive amount of "males" they can switch to "female".



[[WMG: Arceus is the reason why Pokemon are "Pokemon".]]
Rather than being biologically related or evolving in the normal means from one another, Pokemon are Pokemon because they're literally in Arceus' image. Every single Pokemon follows the same mechanics because they were "shaped" that way, given an essence similar to itself and as such bound to the same rules. This is how non-animals, living inanimate objects and even beings like [[EldritchAbomination Giratina]] can somehow be the same type of creature; they're all shaped and designed by the same entity.

The reason why humans aren't Pokemon, despite [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness nowadays]] being the only real life animal on the planet, is because they were created/crafted by something that ''isn't'' Arceus. The Alpha Pokemon had zero output on mankind's creation, making them different from everything else on the planet. It's quite possible that another legendary Pokemon chose to develop humanity solely on its own.

As for Mew, it serves as a sort of "extension" of Arceus, an avatar of its essence so as to freely create Pokemon without putting any effort in it.

[[WMG: Manaphy is the child of Kyogre and Palkia]]
Palkia and Kyogre had a fling, and Manaphy was born from it, he's the prince of the sea because his parents are legendary Water-types and the only members of their respective species. If Palkia and Kyogre ended up having another child (easy since they're curretly caught by May Birch and Dawn Berlitz) the child will be another form of Manaphy which will breed to make another form of Phione.
* Two Manaphy of different forms will end up breeding a generic Manaphy form known as "Hybrid Manaphy".

[[WMG: The Distortion World is the afterlife. Giratina is the god of the underworld.]]
You find Giratina in Diamond and Pearl, in Turnback Cave. It appears in an ancient cemetery. There's a lot of spooky elements to it. The Distortion World that you see is actually the afterlife itself. What you see is simply Giratina's personal domain, where [[EldritchAbomination its mere presence]] is distorting the nearby reality. Beyond it is the rest of the Pokemon afterlife, where the souls of people and Pokemon who passed on live. Those souls known to stay away from the temperamental Renegade Pokemon, and the recent chaos from Cyrus's attempt at recreating the cosmos. Cyrus's loathing of spirit means he refuses to believe in an afterlife, however once things return to normal he's going to be in a nasty surprise upon learning the afterlife exists and he's most likely stuck there. [[FridgeHorror His plan to destroy and recreate the universe would've also destroyed and recreated the afterlife]]. The different laws of gravity and time were put there to better accommodate all the souls.

[[WMG: [[Webcomic/AwfulHospital Bogleech]] is right about Lucario. Metaphorically.]]
It's in a situation similar to Mimikyu. It has a terrifying true form, but molds its body based on what it sees regarding people's likes and dislikes through its ability to read Aura. It tries to match everyone's likes, and the end result is a ridiculously popular Pokémon that's actually kinda boring if you dig under the surface.

[[WMG: Giratina wasn't banished to the Distortion World; it lives there.]]
Come on -- its Distortion World form is called "Origin". If it's not originally from the Distortion World, why would it be called that? Additionally, it does not actually seem trapped there; it has no trouble popping out to abduct Cyrus, after all. (Plus, saving reality seems rather out of character for a banished demon seeking to spite the creator god.) It stays in the Distortion World because that's its natural habitat; as the god of antimatter/spirits/whatever it's more suited to that world than this one. The humans who made the myths only ''assumed'' that such a scary-looking creature must have been banished, but they were incorrect.

[[WMG:Throughout Sinnoh's history, many have journeyed to Acuity Cavern...]]
...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone instead of running away from the past, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.

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[[WMG: Arceus is the reason why Pokemon Pokémon are "Pokemon"."Pokémon".]]
Rather than being biologically related or evolving in the normal means from one another, Pokemon Pokémon are Pokemon Pokémon because they're literally in Arceus' image. Every single Pokemon Pokémon follows the same mechanics because they were "shaped" that way, given an essence similar to itself and as such bound to the same rules. This is how non-animals, living inanimate objects and even beings like [[EldritchAbomination Giratina]] can somehow be the same type of creature; they're all shaped and designed by the same entity.

The reason why humans aren't Pokemon, Pokémon, despite [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness nowadays]] being the only real life real-life animal on the planet, is because they were created/crafted by something that ''isn't'' Arceus. The Alpha Pokemon Pokémon had zero output on mankind's creation, making them different from everything else on the planet. It's quite possible that another legendary Pokemon Pokémon chose to develop humanity solely on its own.

As for Mew, it serves as a sort of "extension" of Arceus, an avatar of its essence so as to freely create Pokemon Pokémon without putting any direct effort in it.

[[WMG: Manaphy is the child of Kyogre and Palkia]]
Palkia and Kyogre had a fling, and Manaphy was born from it, he's the prince of the sea because his parents are legendary Water-types and the only members of their respective species. If Palkia and Kyogre ended up having another child (easy since they're curretly caught by May Birch and Dawn Berlitz) the child will be another form of Manaphy which will breed to make another form of Phione.
* Two Manaphy of different forms will end up breeding a generic Manaphy form known as "Hybrid Manaphy".

[[WMG: The Distortion World is the afterlife. Giratina is the god of the underworld.]]
You find Giratina in Diamond and Pearl, in Turnback Cave. It appears in an ancient cemetery. There's a lot of spooky elements to it. The Distortion World that you see is actually the afterlife itself. What you see is simply Giratina's personal domain, where [[EldritchAbomination its mere presence]] is distorting the nearby reality. Beyond it is the rest of the Pokemon afterlife, where the souls of people and Pokemon who passed on live. Those souls known to stay away from the temperamental Renegade Pokemon, and the recent chaos from Cyrus's attempt at recreating the cosmos. Cyrus's loathing of spirit means he refuses to believe in an afterlife, however once things return to normal he's going to be in a nasty surprise upon learning the afterlife exists and he's most likely stuck there. [[FridgeHorror His plan to destroy and recreate the universe would've also destroyed and recreated the afterlife]]. The different laws of gravity and time were put there to better accommodate all the souls.

[[WMG: [[Webcomic/AwfulHospital Bogleech]] is right about Lucario. Metaphorically.]]
It's in a situation similar to Mimikyu. It has a terrifying true form, but molds its body based on what it sees regarding people's likes and dislikes through its ability to read Aura. It tries to match everyone's likes, and the end result is a ridiculously popular Pokémon that's actually kinda boring if you dig under the surface.

[[WMG: Giratina wasn't banished to the Distortion World; it lives there.]]
Come on -- its Distortion World form is called "Origin". If it's not originally from the Distortion World, why would it be called that? Additionally, it does not actually seem trapped there; it has no trouble popping out to abduct Cyrus, after all. (Plus, saving reality seems rather out of character for a banished demon seeking to spite the creator god.) It stays in the Distortion World because that's its natural habitat; as the god of antimatter/spirits/whatever it's more suited to that world than this one. The humans who made the myths only ''assumed'' that such a scary-looking creature must have been banished, but they were incorrect.

[[WMG:Throughout Sinnoh's history, many have journeyed to Acuity Cavern...]]
...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone instead of running away from the past, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.
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Yeah, I know, [[NumberOfTheBeast six legs/ribs/wings]], banished for his violence, but beyond that Giratina doesn't really fit the position of Satan. While Satan [[TheDevilIsALoser has less chance of beating God than a Magikarp]], Giratina is equal in strength(if not superior given his intervention in Platinum) to Dialga and Palkia, and only Black/White Kyurem and [[{{God}} Arceus]] are stronger. The Distortion world isn't [[Hell Naraka]]. While violent, Giratina is actually part of the CelestialBureaucracy as [[CosmicEntity God of Antimatter]] instead of an outcast/rebel-his violence comes from [[SuperOCD an obsession of order]] rather than being the total villain that Satan is typically envisioned as. Much like how Arceus is a more generic version of TheMaker instead of the omnipotent, Biblical God, Giratina is less the Devil and more an amalgamation of grumpy, temperamental and [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] gods. Giratina being treated as a Satan expy comes from the same reason why [[TricksterArchetype trickster figures like Loki]] and [[TheGrimReaper death embodiments]] are treated as Satan: HijackedByJesus, or rather [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Hijacked By]] [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Ahura Mazda.]]

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Yeah, I know, [[NumberOfTheBeast six legs/ribs/wings]], banished for his violence, but beyond that Giratina doesn't really fit the position of Satan. While Satan [[TheDevilIsALoser has less chance of beating God than a Magikarp]], Giratina is equal in strength(if not superior given his intervention in Platinum) to Dialga and Palkia, and only Black/White Kyurem and [[{{God}} Arceus]] are stronger. The Distortion world isn't [[Hell Naraka]]. While violent, Giratina is actually part of the CelestialBureaucracy as [[CosmicEntity God of Antimatter]] instead of an outcast/rebel-his violence comes from [[SuperOCD [[ObsessivelyOrganized an obsession of order]] rather than being the total villain that Satan is typically envisioned as. Much like how Arceus is a more generic version of TheMaker instead of the omnipotent, Biblical God, Giratina is less the Devil and more an amalgamation of grumpy, temperamental and [[DarkIsNotEvil dark]] gods. Giratina being treated as a Satan expy comes from the same reason why [[TricksterArchetype trickster figures like Loki]] and [[TheGrimReaper death embodiments]] are treated as Satan: HijackedByJesus, or rather [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Hijacked By]] [[BlackAndWhiteInsanity Ahura Mazda.]]
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As shown with LetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee, a game can be considered a mainline Pokemon game, and still not be the official game of VGC. This also means ILCA is off the hook for having to implement Dynamax or any pokemon past Gen 4. You will still be able to online battle, but it might not have in game events.

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As shown with LetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee, VideoGame/PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee, a game can be considered a mainline Pokemon game, and still not be the official game of VGC. This also means ILCA is off the hook for having to implement Dynamax or any pokemon past Gen 4. You will still be able to online battle, but it might not have in game events.
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NamesTheSame[[note]]"Therearah" = "Lord Rowan Tree" in Lapine[[/note]] and all.

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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.

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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone, atone instead of running away from the past, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.
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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own. For those who want to forget the guilt of something terrible they have done, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes.

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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to lose all their memories.memories and restart life with a new identity. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very rarely will it grant such a request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own. own, and have no one who love them or would miss them. For those who want to forget the guilt of having done something terrible they have done, terrible, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes.crimes. Depending on what their crime was, it will tell them to atone, or simply state that their sin is unforgivable.
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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to remove all their memories, after suffering a great deal of grief. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie asks them why they want to forget everything. Only very, very rarely will it decide to grant such a request.

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...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to remove lose all their memories, after suffering a great deal of grief. memories. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie asks them will ask why they want to forget everything. Only very, very rarely will it decide to grant such a request.request: to those who have suffered the most deeply, by no fault of their own. For those who want to forget the guilt of something terrible they have done, Uxie will refuse and state that they cannot escape their crimes.
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[[WMG:Throughout Sinnoh's history, many have journeyed to Acuity Cavern...]]
...for the purpose of seeking out Uxie in order to remove all their memories, after suffering a great deal of grief. If they dare approach the Pokémon, Uxie asks them why they want to forget everything. Only very, very rarely will it decide to grant such a request.
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* Very heavily implied in ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'', where [[spoiler:Arceus says it will let "a part of itself" travel with you when you catch it]].




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* Sadly {{Jossed}}. Megas and Primals aren't featured in [=BDSP=].




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* Again, pretty much confirmed in ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' in the final story quest.
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[[WMG:The Underground Man is Byron's dad, and the previous Oreburgh Gym Leader.]]
And when Byron was young, he was pushed hard to become a strong Trainer by his father, one who the title of Oreburgh Gym Leader could pass to. That's why he does the same to his own son, Roark.
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*** "Teens still aren't legal." Maybe not in the [[MoralDissonance United States]] But this is a game series based on Japan. The Age of Consent in Japan is 14. Also, Hilda/Hilbert are stated to be 16, which is the age of consent in most states of the U.S (and areas around the world too).

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*** "Teens still aren't legal." Maybe not in the [[MoralDissonance [[ValuesDissonance United States]] But this is a game series based on Japan. The Age of Consent in Japan is 14. Also, Hilda/Hilbert are stated to be 16, which is the age of consent in most states of the U.S (and areas around the world too).

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** This is implied to be the case from text in ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus''. [[spoiler:Before catching Arceus, it says it will "allow a shard of itself to walk with you", implying that's not the whole of its being.]]


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[[WMG: Giratina wasn't banished to the Distortion World; it lives there.]]
Come on -- its Distortion World form is called "Origin". If it's not originally from the Distortion World, why would it be called that? Additionally, it does not actually seem trapped there; it has no trouble popping out to abduct Cyrus, after all. (Plus, saving reality seems rather out of character for a banished demon seeking to spite the creator god.) It stays in the Distortion World because that's its natural habitat; as the god of antimatter/spirits/whatever it's more suited to that world than this one. The humans who made the myths only ''assumed'' that such a scary-looking creature must have been banished, but they were incorrect.
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[[WMG: The Lake Trio represent both the Three Sacred Treasures of Japan AND the Freudian psyche.]]
Mesprit represents the id, the ''emotional'' and instinctual part that focuses on what the individual wants, hence the "me" in its name. Azelf is the superego, the part that gives people the ''willpower'' to control oneself and consider the wants and needs of others, hence the modified plural "us" in its name. Finally, Uxie is the ego, the ''rational'' part that balances the id's hedonism and the superego's altruism, acting as a separate party with no bias towards either side (hence the modified "you" in its name) and allowing people to act both in self-interest and in the interest of others.
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[[WMG: There will be DLC adding the last few pokemon unavailable in Gen VIII.]]
Between Sword and Shield and BDSP, there are only 63 pokemon that cannot be used on the switch. Two of them are the mythicals Hoopa and Meloetta, but the rest are more standard pokemon. The story of the DLC could be that there are mysterious gold rings appearing in the Grand Underground, bringing in pokemon that have never before appeared in Sinnoh. Catch all 61 pokeon that appear and you can figure out that Hoopa is behind it, and get a chance to catch one.
Meanwhile, there is news of a pokemon entering itself in to Super Contests, and doing quite well for itself. Get to master Rank and get a high enough score and it will be so impressed by your performance that Meloetta will join you.
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[[WMG: There will be a DLC expansion about finding or resurrecting the lost Hsuian forms from ''Legends: Arceus'']]
As noted in the LA WMG page, the new forms from that game are missing in the present. Given the various attempts at resurrecting Fossil Pokemon throught the series, and ''Sun/Moon'' noting the successs at restoring the formerly-endangered Lapras, It seems that a good tie-in in the run-up to ''Legends''' release would be a story about the Hsuian region BDSP players can play through.

This may also come with the return of other regional variants as well.

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[[WMG:Fantina will reveal that
she is from Kalos.]]

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[[WMG:Fantina will reveal that
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It explains her French language and why she has trouble with English

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It explains her French language and why she has trouble with Englishthe English language
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** Confirmed. None of the Alola Forms, Galar Forms, or even Sylveon appear in the game.
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[[ExactWords ... As in only the first 493 Pokemon as of Gen IV.]] With the possible exceptions being Alola Forms, Galar Forms, Galarian Evolutions, the Hisuian Pokemon, and obviously Sylveon.

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[[ExactWords ... As in only the first 493 Pokemon as of Gen IV.]] With the possible exceptions being Alola Forms, Galar Forms, Galarian Evolutions, the Hisuian Pokemon, and obviously Sylveon.
Sylveon. Quite possibly, the reason for excluding Gen V-onward would perhaps be because of the new policy in regards to mainline Pokemon games; in ''Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'' were basically the EndOfAnEra of seeing every single Pokemon up to date under the same roof as each other, as every other game afterwards beginning with ''Let's Go'' featured only a specific selection of Pokemon in them as opposed to every single one.
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[[WMG: The National Pokedex will return...]]

[[ExactWords ... As in only the first 493 Pokemon as of Gen IV.]] With the possible exceptions being Alola Forms, Galar Forms, Galarian Evolutions, the Hisuian Pokemon, and obviously Sylveon.
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** No. Primal Dialga is called Dark Dialga in Japanese (using the Japanese word for "dark", so it's not the same thing as Shadow Pokémon either).

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*** Pyukumuku
*** Pincurchin
*** Mareanie/Toxapex
*** Wimpod/Golisopod




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*** Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile
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[[WMG: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' will have Primal Dialga and Primal Palkia.]]
It's important to remember that Primal Dialga was actually the ''original'' instance of Primal Reversion in ''Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time'' - with a similar theme to how Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre looked, with its hues being darker and the lines on its body glowing red. With the changes to the plot that [=ORAS=] brought - namely, Maxie and Archie knowing which is the correct orb - it's likely that Cyrus will use Infinity Energy or some other object to create Primal Dialga or Primal Palkia.

[[WMG: ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' will have Mega Evolution.]]
It's the most popular of the unique abilities trainers get in the recent generations, and it played an important role in [=ORAS=]. Plus, only ''5'' Sinnoh pokemon have Megas - this would be a perfect opportunity to give a Mega form to pokemon like Froslass or Luxray.

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* Forest/Swamp Sector

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* Forest/Swamp Forest Sector



*** Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
*** Budew/Roselia/Roserade
*** Croagunk/Toxicroak

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*** Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
Bidoof/Bibarel
*** Budew/Roselia/Roserade
*** Croagunk/Toxicroak
Wurmple/Silcoon/Cascoon/Beautifly/Dustox



* Volcano Sector

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*** Smeargle
*** Ditto
* Volcano Swamp Sector



*** Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
*** Budew/Roselia/Roserade
*** Croagunk/Toxicroak
*** Grimer/Muk
*** Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom
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*** Gulpin/Swalot
*** Toxel/Toxtricity
* Volcano Sector
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*** Slugma/Magcargo



*** Vulpix/Ninetales
*** Magby/Magmar/Magmortar
*** Salandit/Salazzle
*** Rolycoly/Carkoal/Coalossal



*** Snorunt/Glalie/Froslass



*** Cryogonal
*** Bergmite/Avalugg



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*** Psyduck/Golduck
*** Wynaut/Wobbuffet


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[[WMG: Pokémon Hideaways are how you find Pokémon with Hidden Abilities.]]
Though the methods to get them might not be practical or even possible until late-game or postgame.

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