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[[WMG: Pokémon available in Grand Underground's Pokémon Hideaways]]
So far, only Pokémon up to Generation IV have been seen. Most likely, Pokémon from later generations are available in there, but only in the postgame.
* Forest/Swamp Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Zubat/Golbat/Crobat
*** Wooper/Quagsire
*** Skorupi/Drapion
*** Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
*** Budew/Roselia/Roserade
*** Croagunk/Toxicroak
** Predicted:
*** Sunkern/Sunflora
*** Burmy/Wormadam/Mothim
* Volcano Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Houndour/Houndoom
*** Onix/Steelix
*** Geodude/Graveler/Golem
*** Numel/Camerupt
*** Skorupi/Drapion
** Predicted:
* Snowy Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Munchlax/Snorlax
*** Meditite/Medicham
*** Sneasel/Weavile
*** Snover/Abomasnow
*** Bronzor/Bronzong
** Predicted:
* Coastal Sector
** Confirmed:
*** (none so far)
** Predicted:
*** Crabrawler/Crabominable
* Desert Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Psyduck/Golduck
*** Wingull/Pelipper
*** Bidoof/Bibarel
** Predicted:
*** Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon
*** Cacnea/Cacturne
*** Silicobra/Sandaconda
So far, only Pokémon up to Generation IV have been seen. Most likely, Pokémon from later generations are available in there, but only in the postgame.
* Forest/Swamp Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Zubat/Golbat/Crobat
*** Wooper/Quagsire
*** Skorupi/Drapion
*** Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
*** Budew/Roselia/Roserade
*** Croagunk/Toxicroak
** Predicted:
*** Sunkern/Sunflora
*** Burmy/Wormadam/Mothim
* Volcano Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Houndour/Houndoom
*** Onix/Steelix
*** Geodude/Graveler/Golem
*** Numel/Camerupt
*** Skorupi/Drapion
** Predicted:
* Snowy Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Munchlax/Snorlax
*** Meditite/Medicham
*** Sneasel/Weavile
*** Snover/Abomasnow
*** Bronzor/Bronzong
** Predicted:
* Coastal Sector
** Confirmed:
*** (none so far)
** Predicted:
*** Crabrawler/Crabominable
* Desert Sector
** Confirmed:
*** Psyduck/Golduck
*** Wingull/Pelipper
*** Bidoof/Bibarel
** Predicted:
*** Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon
*** Cacnea/Cacturne
*** Silicobra/Sandaconda
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** Confirmed: Grand Underground has a sector with magma pools and veins where Fire-type Pokémon like Houndoom and Numel live.
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* Semi-confirmed: Hisui, the Sinnoh of the past as seen in ''Pokémon Legends: Arceus'', has Hisuian Forms, such as the Psychic/Flying Hisuian Braviary and the Rock/Fire Hisuian Growlithe. It is unknown what happened to them between that game's time period and the present.
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* Confirmed. Ranked battles will still occur in Sword and Shield.
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* Tangrowth was as well, and there was no way to catch a Tangela in Diamond and Pearl, just in Platinum.
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[[WMG: Candice's Medicham was a gift from Maylene]]
They seem to be friends, and Maylene has a Medicham in the World Tournament in her ''Black 2 / White 2'' appearance. She used it to breed a Meditite, which she gave to Candice to help her against Rock- and Steel-types that her Ice-types would have trouble dealing wtih.
They seem to be friends, and Maylene has a Medicham in the World Tournament in her ''Black 2 / White 2'' appearance. She used it to breed a Meditite, which she gave to Candice to help her against Rock- and Steel-types that her Ice-types would have trouble dealing wtih.
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[[WMG: A younger Opal from ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'' will appear as a cameo character to have a representation of the Fairy Type be in Sinnoh, as well as possibly other things as well.]]
Basically a repeat for Mina's role in ''VideoGame/PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee'', with her not only representing Fairy Types in Kanto after originally having appeared in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' but also being an easy source for Bottle Caps introduced in the same generation. Opal could possibly reward the player with Nature Mints for either battling or speaking with her, or perhaps even be an opponent in Pokémon Contests.
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** From the initial game trailer, likely Jossed, as the games mimic the original games' top-down grid-based overworld and not open 3D routes like ''Sword and Shield''.
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* Vivillon: In addition to appearing as wild Pokémon, it will also appear as an OldSaveBonus reward for taking a picture in ''VideoGame/NewPokemonSnap'' of every wing pattern. An NPC will gve you one Vivillon of your choice of wing pattern. This Vivillon would also breed Scatterbug that evolve into Vivillon with its wing pattern regardless of the player's location. If two promotional Vivillon breed, the home player's Vivillon's wing pattern takes priority.
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* Perhaps it was a counter-measure for Giratina's interference. Obviously Cyrus didn't know Giratina was ''going'' to interfere but he could have predicted it ''might'' do. It would have been useful to create a cybernetic Pokemon that could survive inside the Distortion World and enough Sp. Attack to potentially fight Giratina itself. It would even be immune to Giratina's signature attack.
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[[WMG: Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl will use the upgraded Platinum dex.]]
Porygon-Z (one of the added Pokémon in Platinum) was seen in the trailer.
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* Just want to point out that I loved Voltorb Flip; it was a series of randomly generated logic puzzles, and I made a killing solving them consistently.
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[[WMG: Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl will not be the official game of the VGC.]]
As shown with LetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee, a game can be considered a mainline Pokemon game, and still not be the official game of VGC. This also means ILCA is off the hook for having to implement Dynamax or any pokemon past Gen 4. You will still be able to online battle, but it might not have in game events.
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* Sinnohan Dhelmise, based on marimo balls and taking on a very different appearance from Alolan Dhelmise. It would have the Grass/Water type.
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* Minior: The summit of Mount Coronet, at or near Spear Pillar, could be high enough for Minior to land and be caught.
* Passimian: In reference to the 2019 Rugby World Cup being held in Sapporo.
* Passimian: In reference to the 2019 Rugby World Cup being held in Sapporo.
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* It also combined elemens of Arceus, such as the crest on the sides of its head, so Arceus may be involved too.
[[WMG: There will be Sinnohan Regional Forms.]]
This would be one way to bring in new Pokémon and update the Sinnoh games to the present-day, and these Pokémon would either be later-generation forms or evolutions of pre-existing Pokémon (or both) adapted to creatures and ideas familiar to people of Hokkaido. Coming to mind are:
* Sinnohan Falinks, based on a group of samurai. They would carry ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimono sashimono]]'' and take on the Fighting/Steel type via their armor.
* Sinnohan Sinistea and Polteageist, based on green tea instead of black tea. Due to green tea being less processed than black tea and Japanese teapots traditionally made of earthenware, they could be of the Grass/Ground or Grass/Rock types.
* Sinnohan Sentret and Sinnohan Furret of the Normal/Fairy type, who would then evolve into a special-attacking new Normal/Fairy Pokémon based on the Japanese IdolSinger as a counterpart to Obstagoon.
[[WMG: There will be Sinnohan Regional Forms.]]
This would be one way to bring in new Pokémon and update the Sinnoh games to the present-day, and these Pokémon would either be later-generation forms or evolutions of pre-existing Pokémon (or both) adapted to creatures and ideas familiar to people of Hokkaido. Coming to mind are:
* Sinnohan Falinks, based on a group of samurai. They would carry ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimono sashimono]]'' and take on the Fighting/Steel type via their armor.
* Sinnohan Sinistea and Polteageist, based on green tea instead of black tea. Due to green tea being less processed than black tea and Japanese teapots traditionally made of earthenware, they could be of the Grass/Ground or Grass/Rock types.
* Sinnohan Sentret and Sinnohan Furret of the Normal/Fairy type, who would then evolve into a special-attacking new Normal/Fairy Pokémon based on the Japanese IdolSinger as a counterpart to Obstagoon.
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* 1. It will tragically be replaced by a new mini-game or set of mini-games like that ''awful'' Voltorb Flip.
* 2. It will be closed down like in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.
* 3. It will be kept in the remake for the absolute sake of nostalgia.
* 2. It will be closed down like in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire.
* 3. It will be kept in the remake for the absolute sake of nostalgia.
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[[WMG: The statue in the remakes is a hint towards a new form or fusion of Dialga and/or Palkia.]]
[[https://twitter.com/DPPt_Shitpost/status/1248681968310587392 Originally,]] the statue is designed to look ambiguously like either Dialga or Palkia while the one in [[https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/large/public/field/image/2021/02/pokemon_brilliant_diamond_shining_pearl_dialga_statue.jpg the remakes]] resembles a combination of the two.
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[[WMG: Guesses for which Gen 5-8 Pokemon that could make it into BDSP]]
Place your bets, people!
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Place your bets, people!
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Place your bets, people!
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* 2. It will be closed down like in Omega Ruby & alpha sapphire.
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[[WMG: What will happen to the Veilstone Game Corner???]]
*1. It will tragically be replaced by a new mini-game or set of mini-games like that ''awful'' Voltorb Flip.
*2. It will be closed down like in Omega Ruby & alpha sapphire.
*3. It will be kept in the remake for the absolute sake of nostalgia.
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[[WMG: Regieleki and Regidrago will be catchable in some form.]]
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** More specifically, the release year for ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl'' is 2021.
** Unlikely at this point, as ''Pokémon Legends: Arceus'' is a separate game with a focus on Arceus and released in close proximity to ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl''.
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** Alternatively, Cyrus would gather and accumulate Galar Particles knowing that it is a major cause of Dynamax and Gigantamax. He and the other Team Galactic people would then create artificial Power Spots around Sinnoh for some reason tied to Giratina.
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** All of these have been jossed - the official naming has been revealed to be ''Brilliant Diamond'' and ''Shining Pearl''.
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[[WMG:There will be Path to (Diamond and Pearl Remake Names) Campaign.]]
This is similar to how there is a campaign for DP near the end of Gen III.
This is similar to how there is a campaign for DP near the end of Gen III.
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Some of the Gen V-VII Pokémon as well as certain Mega Evolutions and Alolan Forms will be changed such that the male will visually have minor differences from the female.
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Some of the Gen V-VII V+ Pokémon as well as certain Mega Evolutions and Alolan Forms will be changed such that the male will visually have minor differences from the female.
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[[WMG: Unown and Hidden Power will come back for Wayward Cave, but there will be a way to change a Pokemon's Hidden Power type.]]
[=SwSh=] added many features to make it easier to get into competitive, such as the Ability Patch and Mints, and one of the speculated reasons for Hidden Power being cut is that it made it harder to get into competitive.
[=SwSh=] added many features to make it easier to get into competitive, such as the Ability Patch and Mints, and one of the speculated reasons for Hidden Power being cut is that it made it harder to get into competitive.
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[[WMG: Dual-slot mode will become an OldSaveBonus for having save data from PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee or PokemonSwordAndShield on your Switch.]]
The Gigantamax Factor Pikachu and Eevee show that the Gen VIII games have the technology to do that, and you can't get games from before PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee on the Switch. I could see Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee unlocking the dual-slot mode Pokemon for FireRed and LeafGreen respectively, and Sword and Shield unlocking it for Pokemon for Ruby and Sapphire respectively. Emerald would be unlocked with either Sword or Shield, or both games.
[[WMG: The remakes will feature Looker and will be set in the same time frame as PokemonSwordAndShield, explaining why he wasn't in those games.]]
Looker has been in at least one game from every generation since Gen IV and his design is based on the Tenth Doctor, which makes him not being in Sword and Shield very odd. Every remake except ORAS and Let's Go were set in the same time frame as the normal mainline games for their generation, so if Looker was in the remakes, they could put SwSh and the remakes in the same spot on the timeline to justify Looker not being in Sword and Shield.
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Looker has been in at least one game from every generation since Gen IV and his design is based on the Tenth Doctor, which makes him not being in Sword and Shield very odd. Every remake except ORAS and Let's Go were set in the same time frame as the normal mainline games for their generation, so if Looker was in the remakes, they could put SwSh and the remakes in the same spot on the timeline to justify Looker not being in Sword and Shield.
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Looker has been in at least one game from every generation since Gen IV and his design is based on the Tenth Doctor, which makes him not being in Sword and Shield very odd. Every remake except ORAS and Let's Go were set in the same time frame as the normal mainline games for their generation, so if Looker was in the remakes, they could putSwSh [=SwSh=] and the remakes in the same spot on the timeline to justify Looker not being in Sword and Shield.
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Looker has been in at least one game from every generation since Gen IV and his design is based on the Tenth Doctor, which makes him not being in Sword and Shield very odd. Every remake except ORAS and Let's Go were set in the same time frame as the normal mainline games for their generation, so if Looker was in the remakes, they could put SwSh and the remakes in the same spot on the timeline to justify Looker not being in Sword and Shield.
Looker has been in at least one game from every generation since Gen IV and his design is based on the Tenth Doctor, which makes him not being in Sword and Shield very odd. Every remake except ORAS and Let's Go were set in the same time frame as the normal mainline games for their generation, so if Looker was in the remakes, they could put SwSh and the remakes in the same spot on the timeline to justify Looker not being in Sword and Shield.
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[[WMG: A city in Sinnoh will have a partnership with Wyndon or another city in Galar like Lumiose and Mauville.]]
That addition in ORAS was pretty well received, or at least not complained about much online much, and Galar felt suspiciously disconnected from the rest of the Pokemon world to me, so if the next Gen VIII game is Sinnoh remakes, they seem like a good chance to add more lore. My prediction for this city is Veilstone because it seems big enough to not feel random but still relatively small, and it would be hilariously meta if the Game Corner was closed because Galarians complained due to Galar being based on the UK, even though Pokemon doesn't get meta like that much so I don't think that would be the canon reason.
[[WMG: You will get a minor reward for bringing a Pokemon from the original Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum to the game.]]
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire you got a Secret Base decoration for bringing a Pokemon from the original games. Since Diamond and Pearl have Secret Bases too, the item could be another Secret Base Decoration.
[[WMG: Dual-slot mode will become an OldSaveBonus for having save data from PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee or PokemonSwordAndShield on your Switch.]]
The Gigantamax Factor Pikachu and Eevee show that the Gen VIII games have the technology to do that, and you can't get games from before PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee on the Switch. I could see Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee unlocking the dual-slot mode Pokemon for FireRed and LeafGreen respectively, and Sword and Shield unlocking it for Pokemon for Ruby and Sapphire respectively. Emerald would be unlocked with either Sword or Shield, or both games.
That addition in ORAS was pretty well received, or at least not complained about much online much, and Galar felt suspiciously disconnected from the rest of the Pokemon world to me, so if the next Gen VIII game is Sinnoh remakes, they seem like a good chance to add more lore. My prediction for this city is Veilstone because it seems big enough to not feel random but still relatively small, and it would be hilariously meta if the Game Corner was closed because Galarians complained due to Galar being based on the UK, even though Pokemon doesn't get meta like that much so I don't think that would be the canon reason.
[[WMG: You will get a minor reward for bringing a Pokemon from the original Diamond, Pearl, or Platinum to the game.]]
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire you got a Secret Base decoration for bringing a Pokemon from the original games. Since Diamond and Pearl have Secret Bases too, the item could be another Secret Base Decoration.
[[WMG: Dual-slot mode will become an OldSaveBonus for having save data from PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee or PokemonSwordAndShield on your Switch.]]
The Gigantamax Factor Pikachu and Eevee show that the Gen VIII games have the technology to do that, and you can't get games from before PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee on the Switch. I could see Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee unlocking the dual-slot mode Pokemon for FireRed and LeafGreen respectively, and Sword and Shield unlocking it for Pokemon for Ruby and Sapphire respectively. Emerald would be unlocked with either Sword or Shield, or both games.
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