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Colress has the same attitude, and openly betrayed [[CompleteMonster Ghetsis]] the instant the [[PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 BW-2]] protagonists defeat him, citing that Ghetsis's method for making Pokèmon's strength come out was proven inferior to the protagonist's and then was calmly never heard from again, just like Ein.

A: This is the part I have the least evidence for, only their appearances are involved so far. Venus and Caitlin look extremely similar and Unova (New York and [[Joisey New Jersey]])is on the same continent as Orre (Arizona).

C: Alder's Volcarona's IV's are perfect. Any Shadow Pokèmon has Perfect IVs while it is Shadow. Dakim had a Shadow Entei, a Fire-type. That Perfect (Shadow?) Volcarona of Alder's is Bug/Fire-type. Old habits having Dakim maintain a Fire-type Shadow Pokèmon even under his new ID as Alder?

** Then wouldn't that mean that Michael is also related to Eagun and Belluh, who both are clearly unfamiliar with him when they first meet? Eagun could be excused as simply being scatter-brained, but Belluh seems to be the sensible and rational one, who could easily remember a grandson or grand-nephew or whatever relation they might be.

*** It could be that Eagun and Beluh had a daughter, who married a man that had a brother. The daughter and her husband conceived, of course, Rui, while the husband's brother married Lily, and they had Michael, and later Jovi. Thus, while Eagun and Beluh are Rui's grandparents, they would have no genetic relation to Michael. (Sorry for the word jumble, I'm horrible at explaining things. Feel free to reword this.)

* Actually the Nurses say "Welcome to the Pokémon Center" and "We hope to see you again" while the machines just say "Would you like to heal your Pokémon?".

** Hoenn had a desert full of Pokemon (mostly Sandshrew, Cacnea, and Trapinch), so it isn't as if there aren't any Pokemon who can survive there.
*** The Battle Frontier Island off the coast of Sinnoh has a desert, too. As does Unova.

** Nope.

** Maybe they're native to the entire Poke-America continent? VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 have Eevee added to the Unova 'dex.

** Or, [[HijackedByGanon the original Darkrai]] was behind this all along, and the [[DarkIsNotEvil good]] Darkrai in the ANime and games are just wayward escapees from the Dream World, where he was [[SealedEvilInACan sealed away]]. Naturally, being a living nightmare, Darkrai's power'd end up creating clones of himself. Hey, if Legendaries like Dialga, Palkia and Giratina can come from the Dream World (Explaining their Hidden Abilities), so can Darkrai.

[[WMG: When They Eventually Make a New Game, Miror B. Will return]]
And he will have Bouffalant. Because that species was made for him. Hopefully they'll have pokeball afros too.

** Most likely, it was [[TheBrute Dakim]]. Non-voluntary.

* Finally, and this is the most depressing part, the rest of the world ''could not give a crispy shit'' about Orre! There is not ''one'' instance the region is referenced '''''BY NAME''''' in any other Pokemon game, even amongst the prestigious [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger Ranger Corps]]! [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] has yet to hit US shelves, so it's hard to know if they buck this trend, but if not, [[Tropers/CerotechOmega this troper]] is more than ready to believe Cipher is more than capable of utilizing this lack of knowledge for their own ends. Remember the old adage "[[SomebodyElsesProblem Evil wins when good men do nothing?]]" How can you do jack shit when you don't know ''what'' to do jack shit about?

[[WMG: Mirror B left Team Cipher because of [[EvenEvilHasStandards work ethics.]] ]]
Mirror B, while he worked for what is essentially Team Rocket's evil twin, never seemed to be on the same level of evil as an organization that mentally tortures Pokémon into living weapons. He seemed more focused and dancing, plus he treated his Ludicolo army [[MoralityPet as living things]]-considering his love of using them in battle and disco. I assume that either he was fired because he didn't take his job seriously, or Mirror B didn't have the stomach for taking the job seriously (aka making Shadow Pokémon instead of just selling/training him.) The last straw for Mirror B was probably when they asked to have his Ludicolo converted to Shadow Pokemon(which may go to explain where they got Shadow Sky in XD)

Mirror B, while he worked for what is essentially Team Rocket's evil twin, never seemed to be on the same level of evil as an organization that mentally tortures Pokémon into living weapons. He seemed more focused and dancing, plus he treated his Ludicolo army [[MoralityPet as living things]]-considering his love of using them in battle and disco. I assume that either he was fired because he didn't take his job seriously, or Mirror B didn't have the stomach for taking the job seriously (aka making Shadow Pokémon instead of just selling/training him.)

Nascour doesn't seem like the type to truly be loyal to Evice or Greevil. He seems like he'd be a DragonWithAnAgenda, and was actually the guy who ran Cipher's plans and kept it working like a well-oiled machine, while Evice and Greevil were the guys who provided the finances for Cipher and reaped most of the rewards of its activities. Naturally, this pissed Nascour off, so in between the games, he's [[DragonAscendant ascended]] by [[KlingonPromotion killing Evice and Greevil]]. [[ItGotWorse And now,]] he's [[VillainTeamUp allied]] with [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Ghetsis]] and [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Cyrus]], who execute other parts of the plan, and [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Giov]][[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver anni]], who provides the finances.

* Finally, and this is the most depressing part, the rest of the world ''could not give a crispy shit'' about Orre! There is not ''one'' instance the region is referenced '''''BY NAME''''' in any other Pokemon game, even amongst the prestigious [[PokemonRanger Ranger Corps]]! [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] has yet to hit US shelves, so it's hard to know if they buck this trend, but if not, [[Tropers/CerotechOmega this troper]] is more than ready to believe Cipher is more than capable of utilizing this lack of knowledge for their own ends. Remember the old adage "[[SomebodyElsesProblem Evil wins when good men do nothing?]]" How can you do jack shit when you don't know ''what'' to do jack shit about?

Do you honestly think a group with unrepentant [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] in its cabinet will give up on its profane ambitions after two defeats like Team Rocket? It's obvious they have enough resources for another go, even after ''XD'', and more than enough intent to carry on. Here's all the evidence to support this theory.

[[WMG: The three uncaptured and unrepentant CompleteMonster villains will team up.]]

The game will provide Darkrai's StartOfDarkness, explaining how he went from a fairly decent, even heroic Pokemon with an unfortunate power he can't control to ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon: Explorers''' CompleteMonster. After a long time of [[GoMadFromTheIsolation secluding himself alone on a little island]] to avoid his powers accidentally hurting innocents, he was [[MindRape Mind Raped]] into a Shadow Pokemon and never truly recovered until his memory wipe at the end of ''Explorers''.

For [[CompleteMonster obvious]] [[NightmareFuel reasons.]]

While Team Cipher can easily thrive in a place like [[CrapsackWorld Orre]], an economic power like Unova could prove a pretty big hassle for them. Enter [[MagnifcentBastard Ghet]][[CompleteMonster sis]]. The reason why he decided to conquer Unova by getting people to relinquish their Pokemon isn't just that it's going to be easy method of power, but that it'll make Cipher's invasion all the more easier. The reason why there's no Shadow Pokemon is due to PragmaticVillainy: Ghetsis has done all he can to keep a VillainWithGoodPublicity angle. If he shows up with [[MindRape a Shadow]] [[AxCrazy Pokemon]], it's going to turn some heads. Many of the technological villainy Team Plasma has done(hacking into the PC, creating [[OlympusMons Genesect]]) is an attempt to find alternative methods to the raw power of Shadow Pokemon. As for [[OlympusMons Reshiram/Zekrom]], it may be a sign that Ghetsis is an ally to Cipher instead of a member. Ghetsis [[ItsAllAboutMe is the kind of guy who'd want to be in charge of things]], so he might've kept these Pokemon to fight off Cipher and/or [[TheStarscream conquer them]].

It would be [[CompleteMonster perfectly in their character]], so why not? It could be very possible that some of the Cipher heads were the result of this.
** Most likely, it was [[TheBrute Dakim]]. Non-voluntary, of course.

Mirror B, while he worked for what is essentially Team Rocket's evil twin, never seemed to be on the same level of evil as [[CompleteMonster an organization that mentally tortures Pokémon into living weapons.]] He seemed more focused and dancing, plus he treated his Ludicolo army [[MoralityPet as living things]]-considering his love of using them in battle and disco. I assume that either he was fired because he didn't take his job seriously, or Mirror B didn't have the stomach for taking the job seriously (aka making Shadow Pokémon instead of just selling/training him.)

* Then all of Pokemon takes place in the Matrix, since pretty much all the higher ups in every evil team save Plasma are called Admins.

** Maybe they're native to the entire Poke-America continent? PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 have Eevee added to the Unova 'dex.

In Pokemon Colosseum, the entire area, with the exception of Agate Village, is inhospitable to Pokemon - well beyond the sort of conditions found in regular deserts. However, by Pokemon XD, the area has grown somewhat less inhospitable, resulting in the appearance of Pokespots, and the rudimentary components of a fill Pokemon League are in place - there is a "Pre-Gym" in Phenac City, and there is a location with an ersatz Elite Four. There is even a Pokemon Professor who has apparently moved to the region, in part to study Shadow Pokemon purification, but, I assert, also in part to study the region's changing Pokeclimate and the development of pokemon ecosystems.

In the next title set in Orre, set 10 years after the previous title, many parts of the map will be lush to one degree or another, and it will actually be possible to walk from one location to another. Furthermore, true wild battles will be possible, as many more pokemon will have moved into the region. Not only that, but a full gym system will be in the process of being put into place, with some of the gyms only barely having been completed by the time that the player arrives, but all eight gyms will be operational, and will give out badges, required to challenge the Elite Four.

Professor Krane will give out a Starter Pokemon, but it won't be one of the regular starter lines. Furthermore, the player will immediately be shown how to capture wild pokemon, and the wild pokemon caught will actually be the player's second pokemon immediately. Agate Village will have a Moss Rock near it, while an Ice Rock will be found in an icy cave hidden a short way up Mt Battle. Mt Battle itself will hold, at its peak, either Michael or Wes (likely the latter), who will give out their game's Johto Bird Legendary (Ho-Oh or Lugia, respectively) if you can defeat them. A number of starter pokemon from other titles will be found in the wild, too, likely including the Johto starters (after all, they've shown up in both games - shadow pokemon of the middle stage evolution in Colosseum, regular first stage forms in XD).

Mirror B, while he worked for what is essentially Team Rocket's evil twin, never seemed to be on the same level of evil as [[CompleteMonster an organization that mentally tortures Pokemon into living weapons.]] He seemed more focused and dancing, plus he treated his Ludicolo army [[MoralityPet as living things]]-considering his love of using them in battle and disco. I assume that either he was fired because he didn't take his job seriously, or Mirror B didn't have the stomach for taking the job seriously(aka making Shadow Pokemon instead of just selling/training him.)

[[WMG: [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dr._Namba Doctor Namba]] from the anime is the inventor of Shadow Pokèmon.]]
[[http://pokemonepisode.org/episode-223-a-parent-trapped/ Seriously, just listen to his dialogue when he's talking about rage and power about 5:45 in.]] Think about his rage-inducing headband deal. In fact, look at Butch and Cassidy's friggin' Pokèmon when the things are active at 15:00! It makes them Arceus-damned Shadow Pokèmon! Also, the adult Lugia was a prototype [=XD001=] in a later episode I'll let you browse to yourself.
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[[WMG: This takes place in {{TheMatrix}}.]]

* {{Jossed}} for a couple of reasons: The games and anime are separate continuity and in Colosseum Eagun says that he's never "seen a Ho-oh that close before."

[[WMG: [[PokemonBlackAndWhite Reshiram and Zekrom]] are what happened to Orre.]]

In XD, whenever you beat a Rider, he will clench to where his heart is and fall backward.

There's the possible evidence that Eagun is older Ash, of course. There's the FLYING. FUCKING. CARS. (Or just the tech in general -- it seems a lot more advanced than any other gen. (Silph Co. seems almost to par with Orre, but even THEY didn't have FLYING. CARS.)) There's also the lack of any Pokemon League that may have deteriorated over time, but that could always just be physical isolation. In a similar vein, the lack of wild Pokemon (at least in Colosseum) hints that Orre wasn't always a desert, because TONS of animals live in the desert IRL.

* Third, Ardos has stated with the subtlety of a Rampardos that he intends to rebuild Cipher even after the group has broken apart (see "SequelHook" on the main page for more information). How do you know he hasn't backed up anything vital or looked up viable contacts prior to the big arrest? With lunatics like [[PokemonBlackAndWhite Ghetsis and the Shadow Triad]] running loose, odds are he's going to find some kind of audience for his ambitions before he dies in his eight-by-eight. The only folks who are paid to keep this shit under control are Sherles and Johnson... [[PoliceAreUseless oh, wait]].
* Finally, and this is the most depressing part, the rest of the world ''could not give a crispy shit'' about Orre! There is not ''one'' instance the region is referenced '''''BY NAME''''' in any other Pokemon game, even amongst the prestigious [[PokemonRanger Ranger Corps]]! [[PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] has yet to hit US shelves, so it's hard to know if they buck this trend, but if not, [[{{Tropers/CerotechOmega}} this troper]] is more than ready to believe Cipher is more than capable of utilizing this lack of knowledge for their own ends. Remember the old adage "[[SomebodyElsesProblem Evil wins when good men do nothing?]]" How can you do jack shit when you don't know ''what'' to do jack shit about?

Wes and Rui married and retired as trainers, but noticed suspicious activity and feared that Team Snagem was not really finished. With the conception of their first child, they made an agreement. They are confident that this child will want to oppose Team Snagem and be a great Pokemon Trainer. They also plan to leave the region to live in peace somewhere and wish to know that Orre will be safe in the future. The child was born and named Michael. When the boy was a number of months old, Wes and Rui went back in time. First of all, certain Pokemon have been known to transcend time. Also, with the technology displayed in the game, time travel doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch. Anyway, they gave the boy to Lily and her husband to raise, along with an Eevee egg, the parent of which is ether Wes's Espeon or Umbreon (Or possibly both, should they be of the opposite gender). Whats more, they ask the surrogate parents to not let anyone know that Michael is their child, as to protect him from Team Snagem until he is ready. Also, the machine that Michael has doesn’t really work, he has inherited his mother's ability to sense Shadow Pokemon. The machine is just another step to keep him or anyone else from discovering that he is Wes and Rui's son, by hiding this ability.

This explains a number of things. First, how Michael looks like Rui rather then Lily or Jovi. Also, how he received an Eevee that was from his father, when Eevee is understood to be quite a rare Pokemon. It also explains Michael's serious demeanor, drive to oppose Team Snagem, and what seems to be a natural talent for capturing and purifying Shadow Pokemon, all of which he has gotten from Wes. It also explains why, even after losing her husband, Lily would allow her ten-year-old son to go off on his own to fight an evil organization. Because he was not really her child, and it's what his real parents wanted of him.

The game will provide Darkrai's StartOfDarkness, explaining how he went from a fairly decent, even heroic Pokemon with an unfortunate power he can't control to ''PokemonMysteryDungeon: Explorers''' CompleteMonster. After a long time of [[GoMadFromTheIsolation secluding himself alone on a little island]] to avoid his powers accidentally hurting innocents, he was [[MindRape Mind Raped]] into a Shadow Pokemon and never truly recovered until his memory wipe at the end of ''Explorers''.

And he got it solely in an attempt to look more BadAss. Sure, it's a pretty simple one, but from cheek-to-cheek across the bridge of the nose? Ow.

Seriously, look at them. They're both huge. They both have crazy red hair in almost the exact same style. They both wear mostly white and have necklaces of Poke Balls. Also, Dakim is able to leap off Mount Battle and survive, and in Black and White, Alder leaps off a freakin' cliff when the stairs are right there and isn't even hurt. Geography-wise, Unova shouldn't be far away, so who's to say after Cipher collapsed the first time Dakim didn't hop across to Unova and turn over a new leaf? It's not like Orre's flimsy authorities would be able to stop him. His full name could be Dakim Alder, or Alder Dakim, or maybe Alder's just a name he made up so no one could track him. A name like Alder wouldn't be out of place in Orre.

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[[AndTheFandomRejoiced Please?]]

* Shadow Hydreigon would provide some ''excellent'' HighOctaneNightmareFuel, given how scary it is already in Black and White...

For [[CompleteMonster obvious]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel reasons.]]

[[HarsherInHindsight His Hydreigon also has perfect IVs and EVs,]] [[OhCrap like most shadow pokemon before purification,]] [[PoweredByAForsakenChild and he doesn't strike this troper as the sort to train his pokemon lovingly. ]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel He probably knows them even more throughly then we think.]] [[BigBad Possible sequel to XD?]]

[[WMG: Why they chose to make Lugia into XD001...]]