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[[WMG: Wes' stripe is a tattoo.]]
And he got it solely in an attempt to look more badass. Sure, it's a pretty simple one, but from cheek-to-cheek across the bridge of the nose? Ow.
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[[WMG: The white mark on Wes's face is a [[GoodScarsEvilScars scar]], and a MarkOfShame.]]
Emphasis on MarkOfShame. He got the marking during the process of betraying Team Snagem, or an earlier villainous team whose actions led to him becoming a serial [[TheInfiltration Team saboteur]]. The mark may actually be as regular as it is because it's a tattoo to ''[[HiddenInPlainSight hide]]'' a scar.

[[WMG: "Parts unknown" is "any place that an evil Team of Pokemon gangsters is causing trouble".]]
See above. Wes is a serial saboteur of evil Teams. This ''especially'' crosses over with the spirit of the guess above that we'll see him again, though not the letter, in that he may be an ally (or at least the enemy of the PC's enemy) rather than a BonusBoss.

[[WMG: The white mark on Wes's face is a [[ScarsAreForever burn scar]], and a MarkOfShame.]]
After the first time a person leaves their metallic visor on their bike in the desert sun, picks it up with a gloved hand, and tries to put it on without leaving it in the shade for a while, that person ''never makes that mistake again''.
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[[WMG: Ghetsis is an agent, or at the very least in leauge with Team Cipher.]]
For [[CompleteMonster obvious]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel reasons.]]
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[[WMG: In the sequel, Garchomp and Hydreigon will be Shadow Pokemon]]
The previous games had all the pseudo legendaries as Shadow Pokemon.
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[[WMG:Nascour and Evice are psychics.]]
It's why Nascour's hair seems to have a life of its own and why Evice floats when he's pissed off. This is also how Dakim survived jumping off the edge of Mt. Battle - one of them (probably Nascour) was waiting around and teleported him.
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** In Portal 2 there's an instance where you ''can'' place portals on two moving panels. Make the elevator tops out of that stuff, and tah-dah!
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[[WMG: We will see a new Cipher plot in a future game, and Shadow Darkrai will be involved.]]
The game will provide Darkrai's StartOfDarkness, explaining how he went from a fairly decent, even heroic Pokemon with an unfortunate power he can't control to ''PokemonMysteryDungeon: Explorers''' CompleteMonster. After a long time of [[GoMadFromTheIsolation secluding himself alone on a little island]] to avoid his powers accidentally hurting innocents, he was [[MindRape Mind Raped]] into a Shadow Pokemon and never truly recovered until his memory wipe at the end of ''Explorers''.

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Moving in one from general and providing supporting evidence.


Really want to be wrong here, but it would explain his absence during the sequel...

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Really want to be wrong here, but it would explain [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome his absence during the sequel...sequel]]...

[[WMG: [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Charon]] invented Shadow Pokémon.]]
In PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure, he uses very similar technology to enslave armies of pokémon. We know from HGSS that he's basically a free agent, working for whoever wants his particular brand of mad science...
* In [[PokemonSpecial another manga]], a bomb, planted by Galactic, unleashes a HatePlague upon the pokemon near Lake Valor. Pearl was there and caught one of these, and he usually has to put his opponent between himself and that pokemon in order to get it to attack the proper target. Attacking humans directly. Sound familiar?
* But don't the Ein Files in Colosseum specifically state that Ein made Shadow Pokemon?
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[[WMG:Cipher offed Wes sometime between Colosseum and XD.]]
Really want to be wrong here, but it would explain his absence during the sequel...
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[[WMG: A history of Orre, [[CrapsackWorld and why it's a miserable place.]] ]]
Centuries ago, the region of Orre was little more than a desert. A group of immigrants, originating from Pokepan, settled on the land. They tried their very best to survive the harsh terrain, but it was all for nothing. However, [[OlympusMons a friendly Celebi]] took pity upon them. It decided to allow the region to flourish. For most of its history, Orre was a happy place. But the citizens began to covet the great Celebi's power. They thought that [[WellIntentionedExtremist to ensure their society became a total utopia, Celebi must be captured.]]

This was an abject failure. Celebi, infuriated with the betrayal, took back the gift it had given. Wars broke out, and Celebi ended up fatally wounded. It was at that moment [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the people realised the error of their ways.]] They begged Celebi for help, and tried to save it. Celebi used what remained of its power to keep the region alive, as best as it could. It told them that it was with child, and a new Celebi would look after. Only [[EarnYourHappyEnding when they had proven themselves worthy, will it restore their lands.]]

While most citizens were happy to earn their freedom, a few were infuriated. They claimed that Orre should not be punished for trying to capture Celebi, since it was misguided instead of evil. That group was determined [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans to harness Pokemon's innate power, and restore the region.]] But the darkness in their hearts had shown. Over time, [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope they would lose sight of their goal,]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans and to work only for themselves.]] They were known as Team Cipher. Their leader, Greevil, failed to realise this. Only when a trainer defeated him, did he realise he was working for no-one but himself.
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Wait wait wait. The Orre games didn\'t have a clear place in the timeline last I checked.


* Possibly {{Jossed}} for a few reasons: The games and anime are separate continuity, Colosseum takes place around the same time as FRLG and RSE, and in Colosseum Eagun says that he's never "seen a Ho-oh that close before."

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* Possibly {{Jossed}} for a few couple of reasons: The games and anime are separate continuity, Colosseum takes place around the same time as FRLG and RSE, continuity and in Colosseum Eagun says that he's never "seen a Ho-oh that close before."
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[[WMG: Eagun is a RecursiveAdaptation of Ash.]]
Ash is the anime-counterpart of the game character Red, and while they share similarities, they're not the same character: Red, for one, seems more like the strong, silent type than energetic little Ash. Eagun is the game-canon's way of taking Ash's hyperactive personality and love for Pikachu and making it its own. Why is he an old man? RuleOfFunny.
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And Peons are agent smiths.
** Then all of Pokemon takes place in the Matrix, since pretty much all the higher ups in every evil team save Plasma are called Admins.

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Agent Smiths.
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Then all of Pokemon takes place in the Matrix, since pretty much all the higher ups in every evil team save Plasma are called Admins.

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** Then all of Pokemon takes place in the Matrix, since pretty much all the higher ups in every evil team save Plasma are called Admins.


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[[WMG:Bill is Micheal's father.]]
Incredibly talented inventor, gave loved one an Eevee. Apparently poor Bill is dead now.
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[[WMG: The Peons aren't really clinging to the ceilings. They're using ''Portal'' technology!]]

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[[WMG: The Peons aren't really clinging to the ceilings. They're using ''Portal'' {{Portal}} technology!]]
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[[WMG: The Peons aren't really clinging to the ceilings. They're using ''Portal'' technology!]]
Shoot a blue portal on the ceiling. Shoot an orange one in your guard post room. Observe from the orange portal if anyone passes through. If so, jump through and surprise the living bejeezus out of them! This would also explain how a mook is able to enter an elevator after you get on (though it would not explain how a portal stays open on a moving surface...)
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Unova's right next door if the Pokeworld geography is at all similar, and they raged across half the continent during their big battle. Maybe Orre was a main battleground.

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Unova's right next door if the Pokeworld geography is at all similar, similar to ours, and they raged across half the continent during their big battle. Maybe Orre was a main battleground.
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Natter, uncoolness nukes; his canon name is Michael; caps etc.


[[WMG: Rui and the protagonist of XD are related.]]
Seriously I can't be the only one who thought this. They both have red hair and have something to do with shadow pokemon. Also it would kinda make sense. After the events of Colosseum, Rui is so distraught, and so determined to ensure that Cipher to never makes Shadow Pokemon again, that she goes to her mother/aunt (the protagonist's mother) and asks her to help people prevent this from ever happening again. It would be very easy to develop the aura reader if they had a biological example right in front of them.
** Then wouldn't that mean that the XD protagonist is also related to Eagun and Belluh, who both are clearly unfamiliar with him when they first meet? Eagun could be excused as simply being scatter-brained, but Belluh seems to be the sensible and rational one, who could easily remember a grandson or grand-nephew or whatever relation they might be.
*** Original poster here. I see what you mean. Well, it could be that they just never met him, as the main character doesn't seem to recognize them either. Still, that is a good point you bring up.

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[[WMG: Rui and the protagonist of XD Michael are related.]]
Seriously I can't be the only one who thought this. They both have red hair and have something to do with shadow pokemon.Shadow Pokemon. Also it would kinda make sense. After the events of Colosseum, Rui is so distraught, and so determined to ensure that Cipher to never makes Shadow Pokemon again, that she goes to her mother/aunt (the protagonist's (Michael's mother) and asks her to help people prevent this from ever happening again. It would be very easy to develop the aura reader Aura Reader if they had a biological example right in front of them.
** Then wouldn't that mean that the XD protagonist Michael is also related to Eagun and Belluh, who both are clearly unfamiliar with him when they first meet? Eagun could be excused as simply being scatter-brained, but Belluh seems to be the sensible and rational one, who could easily remember a grandson or grand-nephew or whatever relation they might be.
*** Original poster here. I see what you mean. Well, it could be that they just never met him, as the main character Michael doesn't seem to recognize them either. Still, that is a good point you bring up.



[[WMG: Wes spent the time period in between Colesseum and XD working to renew Orre for wild Pokemon.]]
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[[WMG: Wes spent the time period in between Colesseum Colosseum and XD working to renew Orre for wild Pokemon.]]
Cause.
Because.



Gonzap likely captured it at some point after Wes blows up the headquarters, and had it turned into a shadow Pokemon.

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Gonzap likely captured it at some point after Wes blows up the headquarters, and had it turned into a shadow Shadow Pokemon.



* Jossed for various reasons: the games and anime are separate continuity, Colosseum takes place around the same time as FRLG and RSE, and in Colosseum Eagun says that he's never "seen a Ho-oh that close before." Also because it's a stupid theory.

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* Jossed Possibly {{Jossed}} for various a few reasons: the The games and anime are separate continuity, Colosseum takes place around the same time as FRLG and RSE, and in Colosseum Eagun says that he's never "seen a Ho-oh that close before." Also because it's a stupid theory.
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* Curse you, fanfic plot bunnies!

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* Curse you, fanfic plot bunnies!



[[WMG: The Protagonist of XD has a Death Note.]]

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[[WMG: The Protagonist of XD Michael has a Death Note.]]



There's the obvious evidence that Eagun is older Ash, of course. There's the FLYING. FUCKING. CARS. (Or just the tech in general--it seems a lot more advanced than any other gen.(Silph Co. seems almost to par with Orre but even THEY didn't have FLYING. CARS.)) There's also the lack of any Pokemon League that may have deteriorated over time, but that could always just be physical isolation. In a similar vein, the lack of wild Pokemon (at least in Colosseum) hints that Orre wasn't always a desert, because TONS of animals live in the desert IRL.

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There's the obvious possible evidence that Eagun is older Ash, of course. There's the FLYING. FUCKING. CARS. (Or just the tech in general--it seems a lot more advanced than any other gen.(Silph Co. seems almost to par with Orre but even THEY didn't have FLYING. CARS.)) There's also the lack of any Pokemon League that may have deteriorated over time, but that could always just be physical isolation. In a similar vein, the lack of wild Pokemon (at least in Colosseum) hints that Orre wasn't always a desert, because TONS of animals live in the desert IRL.



** "Obvious evidence that Eagun is older Ash"? Um, no. See further above on the page for reasons why. Particularly the "it's a stupid theory" part.

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** "Obvious evidence that Eagun is older Ash"? Um, no. See further above on the page for reasons why. Particularly the "it's a stupid theory" part.



Note the only presence of law enforcement is in Pyrite (checking a map of Arizona puts it in Maricopa County, known for its tough Sheriff). Arizona at the time of the game's release had a noticeably incompetent Governor. Note that aside from Kanto, the villain teams are all opposed by the regions' champions; the reason Battlus isn't doing anything about Cipher is that the current gov is holding him back.

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Note the only presence of law enforcement is in Pyrite (checking a map of Arizona puts it in Maricopa County, known for its tough Sheriff). Arizona at the time of the game's release had a noticeably incompetent Governor. Note that aside from Kanto, the villain teams are all opposed by the regions' champions; Champions; the reason Battlus isn't doing anything about Cipher is that the current gov government is holding him back.



"left for parts unknown"? While just an excuse to not have him crush Cipher in XD, seems interesting. My guess is he will be in the Contest of Champions Cynthia suggests in Black and White when it comes about.

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"left "Left for parts unknown"? While just an excuse to not have him crush Cipher in XD, seems interesting. My guess is he will be in the Contest of Champions Cynthia suggests in Black and White when it comes about.



[[WMG: The 3 uncaptured and unrepentant CompleteMonster villains will team up]]
Ardos, [[strike:Dennis]] Geetis[=/=]Dark Trinity and Cyrus will team up. A match made in... I'd say hell, but it's often interpreted as exactly what Cyrus wants. As for why Cyrus (destroy the world and remake it without emotion) will team up with the other two/five, to quote Bulbapedia "Shadow Pokémon are created through an undisclosed process that '''removes the Pokémon's emotions''', turning it into a soulless fighting machine" and Ein refers to the process as "shutting the door to their hearts", perhaps he would like to use the process on '''humans''', all 3 are easily sick enough to do it. Bonus sicko points if he does it (and Ardos goes along with it) on Eldes, who tries to stop him. Given we have a Wii game coming out, rumored to be an XD like game, it may not need to wait till next gen.

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[[WMG: The 3 three uncaptured and unrepentant CompleteMonster villains will team up]]
Ardos, [[strike:Dennis]] Geetis[=/=]Dark Trinity Ghetsis and his Shadow Triad, and Cyrus will team up. A match made in... I'd say hell, but it's often interpreted as exactly what Cyrus wants. As for why Cyrus (destroy the world and remake it without emotion) will team up with the other two/five, to quote Bulbapedia "Shadow Pokémon are created through an undisclosed process that '''removes the Pokémon's emotions''', turning it into a soulless fighting machine" and Ein refers to the process as "shutting the door to their hearts", perhaps he would like to use the process on '''humans''', all 3 are easily sick enough to do it. Bonus sicko points if he does it (and Ardos goes along with it) on Eldes, who tries to stop him. Given we have a Wii game coming out, rumored to be an XD like XD-like game, it may not need to wait till next gen.



DPPHGSS takes place 3 years after RSFRLGE. Bonsly is refered to as a new species 5 years after Colo in XD.
* Maybe. The "new species" thing is referring to it being introduced in Generation IV, not to it being newly discovered. As a sidenote to that, the only confirmed part about the timeline is that three years pass between RBY/FRLG and GSC/DPP/HGSS, there's no proof for when RSE, Colo, or XD take place/

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DPPHGSS takes place 3 three years after RSFRLGE. Bonsly is refered referred to as a new species 5 five years after Colo in XD.
* Maybe. The "new species" thing is referring to it being introduced in Generation IV, not to it being newly discovered. As a sidenote to that, the only confirmed part about the timeline is that three years pass between RBY/FRLG and GSC/DPP/HGSS, GSC/DPP/HGSS; there's no proof for when RSE, Colo, Coloseeum, or XD take place/
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* He doesn't look 4.
four years old.
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[[WMG:Eevee are native to Orre.]]
In the games, Eevee are never obtained in the wild, only as gifts; the only place you can actually catch an Eevee yourself is Mr. Backlot's Garden, and it's known that he imports his Pokémon. Henceforth it can be hypothesized that Eevee are not native to any of the main game regions, and perhaps have all but died out in the wild, surviving only in captivity. Meanwhile, Orre is a region where wild Pokémon in general are a rarity, and in both games, you start out with Eeveelutions (an Espeon and an Umbreon in Colosseum and an unevolved Eevee that you are soon given the choice to evolve into any of its five then-existing evolutions in XD: Gale of Darkness). Perhaps wild Eevee used to live in Orre and the reason there are no more wild Eevee is because Orre is no longer fit for wild Pokémon to live in.
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[[WMG: [[PokemonBlackAndWhite Reshiram and Zekrom]] are what happened to Orre.]]
Unova's right next door if the Pokeworld geography is at all similar, and they raged across half the continent during their big battle. Maybe Orre was a main battleground.


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[[WMG:Wes knows how to make Poke Balls.]]
You know the infinite Poke Ball glitch in Colosseum? I say it's not a glitch. Our hero just knows how to make Poke Balls himself, as long as he has at least a couple of templates.
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[[WMG: Lovrina is related to Ein somehow]]
She's either his younger sister, daughter, or just his pupil, but she got her scientific talent from him.
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[[WMG: This takes place in {{TheMatrix}}.]]
The people refer to the higher-ups as "admins". This is normally used in online gaming, not in organizations.
And Peons are agent smiths.

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[[WMG: Michael is actually Wes and Rui's son.]]
Wes and Rui married and retired as trainers, but noticed suspicious activity and feared that Team Snagem was not really finished. With the conception of their first child, they made an agreement. They are confident that this child will want to oppose Team Snagem and be a great Pokemon Trainer. They also plan to leave the region to live in peace somewhere and wish to know that Orre will be safe in the future. The child was born and named Michael. When the boy was a number of months old, Wes and Rui went back in time. First of all, certain Pokemon have been known to transcend time. Also, with the technology displayed in the game, time travel doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch. Anyway, they gave the boy to Lily and her husband to raise, along with an Eevee egg, the parent of which is ether Wes' Espion or Umbreon (Or possibly both, should they be of the opposite gender). Whats more, they ask the segregate parents to not let anyone know that Michael is their child, as to protect him from Team Snagem until he is ready. Also, the machine that Michael has doesn’t really work, he has inherited his mother's ability to sense Shadow Pokemon. The machine is just another step to keep him or anyone else from discovering that he is Wes and Rui's son, by hiding this ability.

This explains a number of things. First, how Michael looks like Rui rather then Lily or Jovy. Also, how he received an Eevee that was from his father, when Eevee is understood to be quite a rare Pokemon. It also explains Michael's serious demeanor, drive to oppose Team Snagem, and what seems to be natural talent for capturing and purifying Shadow Pokemon, all of which he has gotten from Wes. It also explains why, even after losing her husband, Lily would allow her ten-year-old son to go off on his own to fight an evil organization. Because he was not really her child, and it's what his real parents wanted of him.


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[[WMG: Michael is actually Wes and Rui's son.]]
Wes and Rui married and retired as trainers, but noticed suspicious activity and feared that Team Snagem was not really finished. With the conception of their first child, they made an agreement. They are confident that this child will want to oppose Team Snagem and be a great Pokemon Trainer. They also plan to leave the region to live in peace somewhere and wish to know that Orre will be safe in the future. The child was born and named Michael. When the boy was a number of months old, Wes and Rui went back in time. First of all, certain Pokemon have been known to transcend time. Also, with the technology displayed in the game, time travel doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch. Anyway, they gave the boy to Lily and her husband to raise, along with an Eevee egg, the parent of which is ether Wes' Espion or Umbreon (Or possibly both, should they be of the opposite gender). Whats more, they ask the segregate parents to not let anyone know that Michael is their child, as to protect him from Team Snagem until he is ready. Also, the machine that Michael has doesn’t really work, he has inherited his mother's ability to sense Shadow Pokemon. The machine is just another step to keep him or anyone else from discovering that he is Wes and Rui's son, by hiding this ability.

This explains a number of things. First, how Michael looks like Rui rather then Lily or Jovy. Also, how he received an Eevee that was from his father, when Eevee is understood to be quite a rare Pokemon. It also explains Michael's serious demeanor, drive to oppose Team Snagem, and what seems to be natural talent for capturing and purifying Shadow Pokemon, all of which he has gotten from Wes. It also explains why, even after losing her husband, Lily would allow her ten-year-old son to go off on his own to fight an evil organization. Because he was not really her child, and it's what his real parents wanted of him.
* He doesn't look 4.
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[[WMG: Shadow Pokemon handed out by Cipher had their Poke Balls tampered with]]
The only way Shadow Pokemon can be purified seems to be with the main character, despite non-Cipher trainers having them. They would've been handed a Poke Ball with the Pokemon in it, by Cipher who were handing them out. So the balls were tampered with to make it so the Shadow Pokemon couldn't be purified. When you snag one, it gets put in a new Poke Ball that wasn't messed with and thus is purifable.
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[[WMG: Michael is actually Wes and Rui's son.]]
Wes and Rui married and retired as trainers, but noticed suspicious activity and feared that Team Snagem was not really finished. With the conception of their first child, they made an agreement. They are confident that this child will want to oppose Team Snagem and be a great Pokemon Trainer. They also plan to leave the region to live in peace somewhere and wish to know that Orre will be safe in the future. The child was born and named Michael. When the boy was a number of months old, Wes and Rui went back in time. First of all, certain Pokemon have been known to transcend time. Also, with the technology displayed in the game, time travel doesn’t seem like that much of a stretch. Anyway, they gave the boy to Lily and her husband to raise, along with an Eevee egg, the parent of which is ether Wes' Espion or Umbreon (Or possibly both, should they be of the opposite gender). Whats more, they ask the segregate parents to not let anyone know that Michael is their child, as to protect him from Team Snagem until he is ready. Also, the machine that Michael has doesn’t really work, he has inherited his mother's ability to sense Shadow Pokemon. The machine is just another step to keep him or anyone else from discovering that he is Wes and Rui's son, by hiding this ability.

This explains a number of things. First, how Michael looks like Rui rather then Lily or Jovy. Also, how he received an Eevee that was from his father, when Eevee is understood to be quite a rare Pokemon. It also explains Michael's serious demeanor, drive to oppose Team Snagem, and what seems to be natural talent for capturing and purifying Shadow Pokemon, all of which he has gotten from Wes. It also explains why, even after losing her husband, Lily would allow her ten-year-old son to go off on his own to fight an evil organization. Because he was not really her child, and it's what his real parents wanted of him.
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* Maybe. The "new species" thing is referring to it being introduced in Generation IV, not to it being newly discovered. As a sidenote to that, the only confirmed part about the timeline is that three years pass between RBY/FRLG and GSC/DPP/HGSS, there's no proof for when RSE, Colo, or XD take place/
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** "Obvious evidence that Eagun is older Ash"? Um, no. See further above on the page for reasons why. Particularly the "it's a stupid theory" part.
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[[WMG: Colo is the chronologically earliest game in the series]]
DPPHGSS takes place 3 years after RSFRLGE. Bonsly is refered to as a new species 5 years after Colo in XD.

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