History WMG / PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies

** It's been made pretty clear that [[TheyJustDidntCare they just don't care]] about consistent eye colours. Phoenix's eye's have been shown as blue on several posters (though none for AA5) but always appear dark in the games.

It's been 8 years since Pearl last appeared, so it's likely she's spent those past years improving her already-impressive spiritual abilities (i.e. the reason [[spoiler:her mother Morgan was trying to get her to usurp Maya of the position of the master of the Fey clan]] in the original trilogy), allowing her to, among other things, give the magatama a boost that makes it less harmful to Phoenix's soul whenever he guesses wrong.

It's been 8 years since Pearl last appeared, so it's likely she's spent those past years improving her already-impressive spiritual abilities, allowing her to, among other things, give the magatama a boost that makes it less harmful to Phoenix's soul whenever he guesses wrong.

Mostly because I just like the idea and can totally see Simon calling him "Edgewoorth-sensei", but it actually makes a lot of sense. They both have some similar mannerisms in court (tapping the forehead and smirking, in particular, whenever they're feeling confident), have formidable reputations and are seemingly terrifying at first meeting, but [[spoiler:turn out to have good hearts]]. Not to mention that they [[spoiler:both have a close friend from their younger years who become defence attorneys trying to 'save' them]]. Maybe when Blackquill started at the DA's office, Edgeworth was either assigned or took it upon himself to mentor the younger prosecutor, seeing his potential- not unlikely, considering he practically did the same for Sebastian Debeste/Yumihiko Ichiyanagi in ''Investigations 2''. It would give an extra layer of meaning as to why Edgeworth let Blackquill prosecute, and allowed for the retrial to go ahead- not only was he trying to end the dark age of law, he probably looked into the case when Blackquill was arrested and worked out that he was innocent, or else knew about his investigation into the phantom and suspected that there was more to it, and was trying to get his protégé acquitted.

Because why not?

Apollo is still a lawyer, Trucy is still his sidekick, Klavier and Ema are still around but they're all part of their own AA story now! They will continue to repeatedly turn up in each others cases by the same ContrivedCoincidence system that we all learned to overlook in Phoenix's original trilogy. Meanwhile, Phoenix is a lawyer again, he has a new assistant (probably either Pearl or an understudy, either way she's obviously gonna be following Phoenix around for quite a while), theres probably a new cocky young prosecutor waiting to become Phoenix's new rival, Gumshoe is probably still around, and so what we have are two separate casts who are gonna have their own series of games. Maybe the next game after this will be centered on Apollo's world (and maybe won't take another 5-6 years after the last main entry) and the only connection the two casts will have in the future is the occasional crossover in a cameo appearance for a little fan-pleasing, or of course more prominently for the joining of forces for a big fat dramatic finale. And as for the Judge? Yeah, he gets around, he may well be present in both. Or maybe his brother will return.

[[WMG:There will be minor SliceOfLife {{DLC Quest}}s]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Phantom]] is {{The Worm That Walks}}]]

I find it HIGHLY doubtful that they don't know each other prior to The Monstrous Turnabout. They're both connected to the GYAXA Space Station, as Athena's mother worked there, and Apollo and Clay went there a lot. Perhaps they had met each other, but forgot they met each other, because of how long it was, or weren't officially acquainted, and thus didn't know each others names. The same could be said for Apollo and Blackquill.

[[WMG: Both Tenma Town and Nine Tails Vale were founded by rejected Spirit Mediums.]]
We see that mountain ranges are integral to Spirit Medium societies, since both the Kurain Village and Hazakura Temple are located in the mountains, and both have strong, traditional Japanese influences. You can see that Nine Tales Vale is located in the mountains as well, and likewise has Japanese influences, and the same applies to Tenma Town (considering that youkai are common knowledge in that town as well and that Tenma Town is supposed to be near Nine Tales Vale). We can guess that the Spirit Mediums come from the mountains of Japan, considering the common points between the two locations we associate with them, and that they immigrated to the mountains in California instead at some point for some reason. Perhaps the two towns in this game were founded by similar people, but instead by those who ''lack'' spiritual powers? The daughters born who don't have powers or whose powers are weak, the sons and husbands who don't have power by virtue of being men. When they came to America, they sought to maintain the same atmosphere in case a Medium was born to the family, but eventually, the spiritual powers dried up and the two towns became what they are now, or just wanted to keep things familiar. Presumably if a medium IS somehow born, they are instead sent to the Kurain Village.

Several times in 5-4, it's mentioned that the Moon Rock that was being researched could change the course of civilization all by itself. Although it's never mentioned ''how'', it's interesting that Metis Cykes, a psychologist, was one of those researchers. Meaning that the Moon Rock's qualities might affect the qualities of human mental abilities in a positive fashion (which isn't exactly unprecedented; see the meteor-forged Arrows from ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure''). While the Moon Rock we see is a melange of black and yellow, it's not too far-fetched to imagine that any piece of Moon Rock that the bracelet might have been forged from was mostly yellow-ish, rather like Athena's earring. Thus, Apollo's bracelet might already be an example of how Moon Rock's boons might work, assisting human empathetic awareness. [[spoiler: And whoever [[BiggerBad the phantom's employers are]] would like the Moon Rock's powers all to themselves, thus giving them a motive to sabotage the HAT projects.]]

* However, there are two exceptions. One is Apollo, the other is the phantom. Apollo masks his real feelings with a lack of emotion, and the phantom masks his emotionless true self with fake emotions. THEY have the radio dial tuned firmly to the dead centre between two stations. Hence why the others are "nearly"; you can always tell what direction to turn the dial to in the other situations. However, when one half denies emotion, it's harder to pick up on, especially if emotionlessness is the base feeling, for which you don't even have to fake anything. Emotionlessness makes it hard to tell which side of the noise the 'real' emotions are on, making it hard to hear what direction the 'radio' needs to be tuned to. This state also generates more noise to compensate for the emotionlessness, making the lack of emotion hard to hear and hard to pinpoint if it's the real feeling or the false one. People can lose the ability to feel emotions if they experience something as distressing as someone they care about being murdered, at least for a while. Apollo is stated to be cold, distant, "dark and mysterious", and his mannerisms in court suggest he's mostly cut himself off from emotion. Athena has to talk to them a bit more and really listen her hardest to pick out what's under the noise.

During one of Simon's recollections of people he's met in prison and the fortune cookie fact of the day they give him, he says, "A former ninja I met in the clink said that exposing those who work in the shadows... is to pass the death sentence upon them". Which sounds like something Kay would say, just using Simon's way of wording things (as Simon doesn't directly quote them, as evidenced by a lack of quotation marks when he says it). Edgeworth at one point thinks Kay wants to be a ninja, not a thief, so it's not unreasonable that Simon would assume she was, too (even though Kay would loudly proclaim herself as the Great Thief Yatagarasu). Kay's already established herself as not exactly a good thief, so her being arrested when she actually tries isn't unreasonable, and since she actually did do it, Edgeworth couldn't exactly defend her like he did when Kay was accused of murder.

This idea was inspired by a fanfic but thinking about the circumstances it seems somewhat probable. Case 5 happens over a very short span of time (the investigation section only lasts...maybe about two-and-a-half to three hours at most before the trial segment begins). So Phoenix and Trucy visit the Space Center's museum, run into Juniper, return to the gate to talk to Director Cosmos, go visit Ted Tonate at the Detention Center, visit the robotics lab and Aura, and then Trucy returns to the Space Center to try and talk to Apollo where she winds up taken hostage thereafter (the call about the hostage situation comes during the scene at the Detention Center after talking to Simon and during the discussion with Fulbright, which must only be about 45 minutes to an hour after the visit to the Space Museum). Juniper may never have left the Space Center between running into Phoenix and Aura rounding up the hostages (since the hostage taking would have had to happen before she notified the police that she was holed up in the Space Museum).

This idea was inspired by a fanfic but thinking about the circumstances it seems somewhat probable. Case 5 happens over a very short span of time (the investigation section only lasts...maybe about two-and-a-half to three hours at most before the trial segment begins). So Phoenix and Trucy visit the Space Center's museum, run into Juniper, return to the gate to talk to Director Cosmos, go visit Ted Tonate at the Detention Center, visit the robotics lab and Aura, and then Trucy returns to the Space Center to try and talk to Apollo where she winds up taken hostage thereafter (the call about the hostage situation comes during the scene at the Detention Center after talking to Simon and during the discussion with Fulbright, which must only be about 45 minutes to an hour after the visit to the Space Museum). Juniper may never have left the Space Center between running into Phoenix and Aura rounding up the hostages (since the hostage taking would have had to happen before she notified the police that she was holed up in the Space Museum).

This idea was inspired by a fanfic but thinking about the circumstances it seems somewhat probable. Case 5 happens over a very short span of time (the investigation section only lasts...maybe about two-and-a-half to three hours at most before the trial segment begins). So Phoenix and Trucy visit the Space Center's museum, run into Juniper, return to the gate to talk to Director Cosmos, go visit Ted Tonate at the Detention Center, visit the robotics lab and Aura, and then Trucy returns to the Space Center to try and talk to Apollo where she winds up taken hostage thereafter (the call about the hostage situation comes during the scene at the Detention Center, which must only be about 45 minutes to an hour after the visit to the Space Museum). Juniper may never have left the Space Center between running into Phoenix and Aura rounding up the hostages (since the hostage taking would have had to happen before she notified the police that she was holed up in the Space Museum).

This idea was inspired by a fanfic but thinking about the circumstances it seems somewhat probable. Case 5 happens over a very short span of time (the investigation section only lasts...maybe about two-and-a-half to three hours at most before the trial segment begins). So Phoenix and Trucy visit the Space Center's museum, run into Juniper, go back outside and talk to Director Cosmos, and then Trucy returns to the Space Center to try and talk to Apollo where she winds up taken hostage thereafter (the call about the hostage situation comes during the scene at the Detention Center, which must only be about 45 minutes to an hour after the visit to the Space Museum). Juniper may never have left the Space Center between running into Phoenix and Aura rounding up the hostages (since the hostage taking would have had to happen before she notified the police that she was holed up in the Space Museum).

As seen in [[spoiler:VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney british government played a major role in almost everything and used illegal means]] to achieve a needed result. They [[spoiler:used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water.]] It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with [[spoiler:Phantom, brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis. To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people]] So every time he wrote something during his job, [[spoiler:impersonating someone, the ink effect was renewed, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game, and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game.]]

[[WMG: Not only will GS5 cross over with VideoGame/GhostTrick, the whole purpose of Ghost Trick was for an AA crossover.]]

* Jossed.

[[WMG:Yumihiko Ichiyanagi will return]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is Souta Sarushiro]]]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Phantom's true identity is Yumihiko's long, lost mom.]]]]
She was [[spoiler:never killed by Bansai]] like everyone assumed she was. After disappearing, she became [[spoiler:the Phantom and slowly lost her sense of identity]] with the explanation on how this even happened being explained in a later game.

[[WMG: Constance Courte and Hakari Mikagame were friends.]]

As seen in [[spoiler:VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney british government played a major role in almost everything and used illegal means]] to achieve a needed result. They [[spoiler:used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water.]] It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with [[spoiler:Phantom, brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis. To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people]] So every time he wrote something during his job, [[spoiler:impersonating someone, the ink effect was renewed, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game, and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game]]

As seen in [[spoiler:VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney]] [[spoiler:british government played a major role in almost everything and]] [[spoiler:used illegal means]] to achieve a needed result. They [[spoiler:used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water.]] It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with [[spoiler:Phantom]], [[spoiler:brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis]] [[spoiler:To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people]] So every time he wrote something during his job, [[spoiler: impersonating someone, the ink effect renew, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game]]

** '''''OBJECTION!''''' The witness claims that Kristoph Gavin's scar formed before the death of Dr. Cykes. However, Dual Destinies takes place one and a half years after Apollo Justice. In other words... '''''*slams desk* Kristoph MUST have commissioned the forged evidence almost HALF A YEAR after the death of Metis Cykes!'''''