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2nd Mar '16 12:51:30 PM SteelEdge
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Not every Persona 3 Persona user, just the ones in the right age range and would plausibly be in elementary school in the city at the time (Yukari, Junpei, and Minato/Minako all were said to have moved around before). All of those schoolkids got a Persona but never used them. And then [[spoiler: that whole thing with reversing time and the Other Side happened.]] Those kids still had residual Personas from the Other Side, but couldn't use them normally. Hence the need for Evokers. As for the other characters with Personas... maybe they played the Persona game on the Other Side (still doesn't explain Koromaru)? The Persona 4 characters didn't need their Other counterparts to play the Persona game because they faced their Shadows in the TV world. This is why in P 3 it's rare to have a Persona and it isn't explained where they come from, but in P 4 it's possible to gain one.

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Not every Persona 3 Persona user, just the ones in the right age range and would plausibly be in elementary school in the city at the time (Yukari, Junpei, and Minato/Minako all were said to have moved around before). All of those schoolkids got a Persona but never used them. And then [[spoiler: that whole thing with reversing time and the Other Side happened.]] Those kids still had residual Personas from the Other Side, but couldn't use them normally. Hence the need for Evokers. As for the other characters with Personas... maybe they played the Persona game on the Other Side (still doesn't explain Koromaru)? The Persona 4 characters didn't need their Other counterparts to play the Persona game because they faced facing their Shadows in the TV world. world gets you a Persona, potential or no. This is why in P 3 it's rare to have a Persona and it isn't explained where they come from, but in P 4 it's possible to gain one.one no matter who you are.

[[WMG: The Masked Four were chosen as executives because their wishes couldn't be achieved on their own]]
The students who say they called the Joker got wishes like good grades, which they are grateful for but also could have gotten on their own. The Masked Four really support the Joker because he granted impossible wishes that they are extremely grateful for. Lady Scorpio/Anna got healed from her injuries from a hit and run. Prince Taurus/Ginji got his career back, and given his reputation no one would have accepted him without Joker's interference. Queen Aquarius/[[spoiler: Junko Kurosu]] got her youth back, which really is impossible. King Leo didn't seem to have a wish and is the exception.
29th Jan '16 6:31:51 PM SteelEdge
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** Also, the game is being cancelled because the plot is too crazy and implausible. But it served its purpose long enough.
29th Jan '16 6:28:44 PM SteelEdge
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Some things don't make complete sense without some inference, namely that [[spoiler: Lisa and Eikichi say they locked Tatsuya in with Maya into the shrine, when the flashback shows Tatsuya on the outside as Sudou burns the shrine and the fact that they know Tatsuya survived the incident without thinking Maya did.]] Here's probably what happened: [[spoiler: the original shrine had a window just big enough for Tatsuya to fit through but too small for Maya. Maya lifted Tatsuya through the window so that he could get help or open the shrine from the outside, but Sudou beat him up and set the shrine on fire.]]

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Some things don't make complete sense without some inference, namely that [[spoiler: Lisa and Eikichi say they locked Tatsuya in with Maya into the shrine, when the flashback shows Tatsuya on the outside as Sudou burns the shrine and the fact that they know Tatsuya survived the incident without thinking Maya did.]] Here's probably what happened: [[spoiler: the original shrine had a window just big enough for Tatsuya to fit through but too small for Maya. Maya lifted Tatsuya through the window so that he could get help or open the shrine from the outside, but Sudou beat him up and set the shrine on fire.]]]]

[[WMG: The kids Maya taught the Persona game to in Innocent Sin include some Persona 3 characters]]
Not every Persona 3 Persona user, just the ones in the right age range and would plausibly be in elementary school in the city at the time (Yukari, Junpei, and Minato/Minako all were said to have moved around before). All of those schoolkids got a Persona but never used them. And then [[spoiler: that whole thing with reversing time and the Other Side happened.]] Those kids still had residual Personas from the Other Side, but couldn't use them normally. Hence the need for Evokers. As for the other characters with Personas... maybe they played the Persona game on the Other Side (still doesn't explain Koromaru)? The Persona 4 characters didn't need their Other counterparts to play the Persona game because they faced their Shadows in the TV world. This is why in P 3 it's rare to have a Persona and it isn't explained where they come from, but in P 4 it's possible to gain one.
28th Jan '16 12:33:38 PM SteelEdge
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The way everyone talks about the Other Side in EP, it's obviously not just a timeline that was rewound and started over again - it's a parallel reality that left something behind when it was collapsed in on itself. Thanks to the events of P2, with Philemon and Nyarlathotep severely weakened, the proximity of the Other Side is still having an adverse effect on This Side despite the measures taken to make sure it goes away. As a result, the essence of a dying alternate reality has been leaking into This Side, changing the nature of magic and the power of persona - it's why demons have faded away to be replaced by shadows, and the occasional EldritchLocation is cropping up on its own. The Midnight Channel in particular is the very substance of the dying Other Side, made so malleable to the collective and individual will because it's unable to hold itself together.

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The way everyone talks about the Other Side in EP, it's obviously not just a timeline that was rewound and started over again - it's a parallel reality that left something behind when it was collapsed in on itself. Thanks to the events of P2, with Philemon and Nyarlathotep severely weakened, the proximity of the Other Side is still having an adverse effect on This Side despite the measures taken to make sure it goes away. As a result, the essence of a dying alternate reality has been leaking into This Side, changing the nature of magic and the power of persona - it's why demons have faded away to be replaced by shadows, and the occasional EldritchLocation is cropping up on its own. The Midnight Channel in particular is the very substance of the dying Other Side, made so malleable to the collective and individual will because it's unable to hold itself together.together.
* Adding to that, all of the Persona users on the Other Side are the hyper powerful shadows or superbosses. The Reaper is a former playable character.

[[WMG: Concerning the Shrine incident ten years ago]]
Some things don't make complete sense without some inference, namely that [[spoiler: Lisa and Eikichi say they locked Tatsuya in with Maya into the shrine, when the flashback shows Tatsuya on the outside as Sudou burns the shrine and the fact that they know Tatsuya survived the incident without thinking Maya did.]] Here's probably what happened: [[spoiler: the original shrine had a window just big enough for Tatsuya to fit through but too small for Maya. Maya lifted Tatsuya through the window so that he could get help or open the shrine from the outside, but Sudou beat him up and set the shrine on fire.]]
22nd Dec '14 11:01:58 AM Nerrin
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As Nyarlathotep recites the legend, blood poured endlessly from Jesus when he was stabbed. Nothing is said about the Spear doing that to anyone, just it doing that to Jesus. Therefore for the Spear to be that effective, Maya has to be Jesus Christ in some way.

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As Nyarlathotep recites the legend, blood poured endlessly from Jesus when he was stabbed. Nothing is said about the Spear doing that to anyone, just it doing that to Jesus. Therefore for the Spear to be that effective, Maya has to be Jesus Christ in some way.way.

[[WMG: The Other Side enables the shadows, Tartarus, and the Midnight Channel of the later games]]
The way everyone talks about the Other Side in EP, it's obviously not just a timeline that was rewound and started over again - it's a parallel reality that left something behind when it was collapsed in on itself. Thanks to the events of P2, with Philemon and Nyarlathotep severely weakened, the proximity of the Other Side is still having an adverse effect on This Side despite the measures taken to make sure it goes away. As a result, the essence of a dying alternate reality has been leaking into This Side, changing the nature of magic and the power of persona - it's why demons have faded away to be replaced by shadows, and the occasional EldritchLocation is cropping up on its own. The Midnight Channel in particular is the very substance of the dying Other Side, made so malleable to the collective and individual will because it's unable to hold itself together.
14th Dec '14 5:01:23 PM Mullon
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[[WMG: Maya is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ]]

As Nyarlathotep recites the legend, blood poured endlessly from Jesus when he was stabbed. Nothing is said about the Spear doing that to anyone, just it doing that to Jesus. Therefore for the Spear to be that effective, Maya has to be Jesus Christ in some way.
12th Jun '14 12:58:57 AM VPhantom
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[[WMG: Ellen's Stalker is a distant ancestor of [[{{Persona4}} Mitsuo Kubo]].]]

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[[WMG: Ellen's Stalker is a distant ancestor of [[{{Persona4}} [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Mitsuo Kubo]].]]
15th Jun '13 12:19:24 PM Duncan0Idaho
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** The stalker that appears in the dungeon was an illusion, but he was based on Eriko's memories of the actual guy.

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** The stalker that appears in the dungeon was an illusion, but he was based on Eriko's memories of the actual guy.guy.

[[WMG: Philemon's "Death" was planned by him as a way to seal Nyarlothep and win the Bet]]

IF Philemon is the representation of a part of the human subconcious then he is linked to nyarlothep as he is linked to him, the only way to stop nyarlothep is to kill philemon, hence why his drastic actions, from erasing the people memory to taunting tatsuya the whole point is to weaken and Seal nyarlothep, persona 5 will tell if this worked or not
10th Apr '12 10:22:01 PM nombretomado
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'''[[{{Clue}} Colonel Mustard]]''': In the hall, with the revolver.

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'''[[{{Clue}} '''[[TabletopGame/{{Clue}} Colonel Mustard]]''': In the hall, with the revolver.
5th Feb '12 7:26:37 PM Chel
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** That...actually makes a lot of sense. What's the best way to prevent the people from Persona 2 from looking too deeply into those memories? Make them play it off as being influence by the game! Add in that Nanjou has the funds to push this game through, and it becomes even more likely!

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** That...actually makes a lot of sense. What's the best way to prevent the people from Persona 2 from looking too deeply into those memories? Make them play it off as them being influence influenced by the game! Add in that Nanjou has the funds to push this game through, and it becomes even more likely!
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