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[[WMG:''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' and PandoraHearts take place in the same universe.]]

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[[WMG:''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' and PandoraHearts ''Manga/PandoraHearts'' take place in the same universe.]]
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[[AC:Main/{{PandoraHearts}}]]



[[spoiler: Now that Gilbert is revealed to be a Baskerville, having a contract with Oz would not condemn him. But since he's already with the Raven, he might need to become Glen to do that...]] Because Pandora Hearts is somehow always the reverse ''{{Anime/Kuroshitsuji}}''.

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[[spoiler: Now that Gilbert is revealed to be a Baskerville, having a contract with Oz would not condemn him. But since he's already with the Raven, he might need to become Glen to do that...]] Because Pandora Hearts is somehow always the reverse ''{{Anime/Kuroshitsuji}}''.''Anime/BlackButler''.



[[WMG: Lacie is actually [[Manga/{{Kuroshitsuji}} Sebastian]].]]
If anyone have been following Kuroshitsuji and Pandora Hearts at the same time, you will notice that the chapter which Lacie shows her face in Jack's flashback is in the same issue as the chapter which Sebastian had his long flashback on his meeting with Ciel. Lacie, a mysterious ravenhead, who's a Child of Misfortune, with red eyes meets Jack and changes his whole world. Sebastian, a mysterious ravenhead demon with red eyes appeared to Ciel and changed his whole world. And it all happened within the same issue of G-Fantasy, the magazine from which both mangas are released. This have to be planned.

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[[WMG: Lacie is actually [[Manga/{{Kuroshitsuji}} [[Manga/BlackButler Sebastian]].]]
If anyone have been following Kuroshitsuji ''Black Butler'' and Pandora Hearts ''Pandora Hearts'' at the same time, you will notice that the chapter which Lacie shows her face in Jack's flashback is in the same issue as the chapter which Sebastian had his long flashback on his meeting with Ciel. Lacie, a mysterious ravenhead, who's a Child of Misfortune, with red eyes meets Jack and changes his whole world. Sebastian, a mysterious ravenhead demon with red eyes appeared to Ciel and changed his whole world. And it all happened within the same issue of G-Fantasy, the magazine from which both mangas are released. This have to be planned.
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[[WMG:Alice is really [[TheLovelyBones Suzie Salmon]] reincarnated]]

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[[WMG:Alice is really [[TheLovelyBones [[Film/TheLovelyBones Suzie Salmon]] reincarnated]]
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* No. Mad Hatter never had any will. It has no mind or awareness, and I think upon the death of its contractor it dissipates, goes back to being part of him, like the theory lower down suggests. Either that Or Reim goes to the abyss for a new Chain and finds Break waiting for him, wearing that hat and the ragged cape.

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* No. Mad Hatter never had any will. It has no mind or awareness, and I think upon the death of its contractor it dissipates, goes back to being part of him, like the theory lower down suggests. Either that Or or Reim goes to the abyss for a new Chain and finds Break waiting for him, wearing that hat and the ragged cape.
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Remember when Gil first met Break? Remember what Break was wearing? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24642-11/pandora-hearts/chapter-13.html A hat and a raggedy black cloak/ cape thing.]] Now what does Mad hatter look like? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24649-40/pandora-hearts/chapter-20.html Look familiar?]]


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Remember when Gil first met Break? Remember what Break was wearing? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24642-11/pandora-hearts/chapter-13.html A hat and a raggedy black cloak/ cape thing.]] Now what does Mad hatter look like? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24649-40/pandora-hearts/chapter-20.html look like?]] Look familiar?]]

familiar?
*Yeah! I've had the same thought. Besides, it would make sense that for the Will to ceate a chain that destroyed things of the Abyss, she would have to work with something not of the Abyss for the base of it. ''She used Break's soul to create Mad Hatter.''
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Remember when Gil first met Break? Remember what Break was wearing? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24642-11/pandora-hearts/chapter-13.html A hat and a raggedy black cloak/ cape thing.]] Now what does Mad hatter look like?

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Remember when Gil first met Break? Remember what Break was wearing? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24642-11/pandora-hearts/chapter-13.html A hat and a raggedy black cloak/ cape thing.]] Now what does Mad hatter look like?
like? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24649-40/pandora-hearts/chapter-20.html Look familiar?]]

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It feels right that he have that chain next. They were very good friends, and since Barma destroyed the Barma key to the abyss, his contract with March Hare is gone. With Break dead, Mad Hatter is without a contractor and Reim/Liam without a protector. I think that chain should protect him well.
*No. Mad Hatter never had any will. It has no mind or awareness, and I think upon the death of its contractor it dissipates, goes back to being part of him, like the theory lower down suggests. Either that Or Reim goes to the abyss for a new Chain and finds Break waiting for him, wearing that hat and the ragged cape.
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[[WMG: Reim/Liam will make a contract with Mad Hatter now that the world's been saved.]]


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[[WMG: Mad Hatter is actually part of Break!]]
Remember when Gil first met Break? Remember what Break was wearing? [[http://www.mangareader.net/350-24642-11/pandora-hearts/chapter-13.html A hat and a raggedy black cloak/ cape thing.]] Now what does Mad hatter look like?
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[[WMG:Jack Vessalius was given [[DetectiveConan APOTOX4869]] and that's why he can't stay as an adult for so long.]]

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[[WMG:Jack Vessalius was given [[DetectiveConan [[Manga/DetectiveConan APOTOX4869]] and that's why he can't stay as an adult for so long.]]
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*** Jossed. At least Zwei being a great grandniece of Breaks is Josssed. Zwei lived in [[spoiler: Sablier,]] and knew Vincent. Zwei [[spoiler: predates]] break. B



** I support Vincent falling for Ada, and I have a reason for it aside ShippingGoogles. [[spoiler:Vincent sisnce to get along better with those considered "weird" as he was a weirdo before; that's how he met Noise/Echo. And while in his plan to corrumpt Ada he discoveres that Ada is a NightmareFetishist, so someone "weird" as well, but that still can radiate light and light up his darkness.]] Ada defending him despise her lack of any strenght just started to cement it.

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** I support Vincent falling for Ada, and I have a reason for it aside ShippingGoogles. [[spoiler:Vincent sisnce to get along better with those considered "weird" as he was a weirdo before; that's how he met Noise/Echo. And while in his plan to corrumpt Ada he discoveres that Ada is a NightmareFetishist, so someone "weird" as well, but that still can radiate light and light up his darkness.]] Ada defending him despise her lack of any strenght strength just started to cement it.
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[[WMG: Vanessa is [[{{Durarara}} Celty Strulson]].]]

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[[WMG: Vanessa is [[{{Durarara}} [[{{LightNovel/Durarara}} Celty Strulson]].]]
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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss. then Vincent wishes that someone saved him and Gil from the streets when they were children, so Gil would be alive with him. Then it comes back to the reality of the first wish, and the story we know.

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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss. then Then Vincent wishes that someone saved him and Gil from the streets when they were children, so Gil would still be alive. I know this wish is a bit odd, but it's a domino effect: because if Jack hadn't met Miranda he would not have been alive with him.to save them. Then it comes back to the reality of the first wish, and the story we know.
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* continuing from my theory above, every time the world resets it becomes more cracked. In the original reality there were no Black Winged Chains, or chains holding the world together, just one solid whole and some moderately powerful chains held by the Glen. But that whole cracks with every reset, and with every one of those powerful wishes, a Chain is born.

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* continuing from my theory above,
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every time the world resets it becomes more cracked. In the original reality there were no Black Winged Chains, or chains holding the world together, just one solid whole and some moderately powerful chains held by the Glen. But that whole cracks with every reset, and with every one of those powerful wishes, a Chain is born.

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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss. then Vincent wishes that someone saved him and Gil from the streets when they were children, so Gil would be alive with him. Then it comes back to the reality of the first wish, and the story we know.

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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss. then Vincent wishes that someone saved him and Gil from the streets when they were children, so Gil would be alive with him. Then it comes back to the reality of the first wish, and the story we know.
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[[WMG: Its all Gil and Vincent's faults, and this is the sixth and last time to world has been reset]]

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[[WMG: Its It's all Gil and Vincent's faults, fault, and this is the sixth and last time to the world has been reset]]

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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss.

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Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss. then Vincent wishes that someone saved him and Gil from the streets when they were children, so Gil would be alive with him. Then it comes back to the reality of the first wish, and the story we know.
*continuing from my theory above, every time the world resets it becomes more cracked. In the original reality there were no Black Winged Chains, or chains holding the world together, just one solid whole and some moderately powerful chains held by the Glen. But that whole cracks with every reset, and with every one of those powerful wishes, a Chain is born.
A Black Winged Chain.
Raven first, born of Gil's wish that someone stopped him, and then the others in any order following. Every time there was a Tragedy, it was that new chain that Jack made his contract of destruction with, since Chains that can hold the world-chains together should logically be able to break them as well. But the thing that makes this final reset different, instead of another Black Winged Chain being born of the reset, a rabbit was born instead. and because that rabbit is who he is, Oz the lovable, this time it will work out.
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[[WMG: Its all Gil and Vincent's faults, and this is the sixth and last time to world has been reset]]
We know time can be undone and history redone in Pandora Hearts. What if in the original reality, a Gil who's become Glen wished that someone had stopped him from taking Glen's Chains, because he isn't fit for it, and can't live without his little brother. Then a reality like the story as it is now happens, and Vincent succeeds in wishing himself out of existence. In the reality following that one Gil wishes to have never been born, because he's so alone.
Now, people wishing themselves out of existence only works for the reset after that wish, so once Gil resets it so that he was never born, Vincent wishes to have had someone to protect him. Just one person who cared if he lived or died. In the reality following that one Gil wishes that Jack had never met Miranda, so she couldn't make Vincent open the door to the Abyss.
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[[WMG:The Abyss is actually the Slayers Sea of Chaos]]

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[[WMG:The Abyss is actually the Sea of Chaos]]
* Think about it, it is a formerly golden paradise, but now a place of nightmares, and the first half of the incantation to summon the power of the Sea and L-sama was:
''darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night, thou who shines like gold upon the sea of chaos.'' and the other incantation began with the phrase, ''Lord of Dreams that terrify''.

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[[WMG:The Abyss is actually the Slayers Sea of Chaos]]
* Think about it, it is a formerly golden paradise, but now a place of nightmares, and the first half of the incantation to summon the power of the Sea and L-sama was:
was: ''darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night, thou who shines like gold upon the sea of chaos.'' and the other incantation began with the phrase, ''Lord of Dreams that terrify''. What does that sound like? The Abyss!
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* As of retrace 102 it isn't so Jossed. The contract with Jack is over and Oz is no longer in that body. To get him back Alice and Gil will probably both make contracts with him, because like Humpty Dumpty, B-rabbit originally had more than one body.

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The Will is the Will because the core is fused with her, and Alice wants it out of her sisters body as of the most recent chapters. The presence of the Core is making white Alice's body break down because its too much power for her ''frail shell'' as the Core itself put it. Oz became B-Rabbit when the Will needed something that she could give the power to sever the chains that bind the world together, and since he had been at the heart of the Abyss for so long he could hold that power without breaking. The Core refuses to get out of the Will's body because she's the company Lacie left behind and it doesn't want to be lonely. Lacie originally left one of Oz's bodies behind to keep the Core company. Oz will offer himself to the Core because that what he was for in the first place, and he won't be destroyed by the Core's presence.

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The Will is the Will because the core is fused with her, and Alice wants it out of her sisters body body, as of the most recent chapters. chapters.
The presence of the Core is making white Alice's body break down because its too much power for her ''frail shell'' as the Core itself put it. Oz became B-Rabbit when the Will needed something that she could give the power to sever the chains that bind the world together, and since he had been at the heart of the Abyss for so long he could hold that power without breaking. The Core refuses to get out of the Will's body because she's the company Lacie left behind and it doesn't want to be lonely. Lacie originally left one of Oz's bodies behind to keep the Core company. Oz will offer himself to the Core because that what he was for in the first place, and he won't be destroyed by the Core's presence.

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[[WMG: Oz will become the new Will of the Abyss]]
The Will is the Will because the core is fused with her, and Alice wants it out of her sisters body as of the most recent chapters. The presence of the Core is making white Alice's body break down because its too much power for her ''frail shell'' as the Core itself put it. Oz became B-Rabbit when the Will needed something that she could give the power to sever the chains that bind the world together, and since he had been at the heart of the Abyss for so long he could hold that power without breaking. The Core refuses to get out of the Will's body because she's the company Lacie left behind and it doesn't want to be lonely. Lacie originally left one of Oz's bodies behind to keep the Core company. Oz will offer himself to the Core because that what he was for in the first place, and he won't be destroyed by the Core's presence.

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* think about it, it is formerly golden paradise, but now a place of nightmares, and thefirst half of the incantation to summon the power of the Sea and LoN was ''darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night, thou who shines like gold upon the sea of chaos''

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* think Think about it, it is a formerly golden paradise, but now a place of nightmares, and thefirst the first half of the incantation to summon the power of the Sea and LoN was L-sama was:
''darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night, thou who shines like gold upon the sea of chaos''chaos.'' and the other incantation began with the phrase, ''Lord of Dreams that terrify''.

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[[WMG:the Abyss is actually the [[Manga/Slayers Sea of Chaos]] ]]

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* think about it, it is formerly golden paradise, but now a place of nightmares, and thefirst half of the incantation to summon the power of the Sea and LoN was ''darkness beyond blackest pitch, deeper than the deepest night, thou who shines like gold upon the sea of chaos''
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