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* ''Series/{{Desmonds}}'' was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]] (a real-life pub in that part of South London) so it's likely that they'd know the Trotters, socially at least. Del's probably had a few business dealings with Lee over the years, while Cassandra and Michael could work for the same bank. Taking this a step further, Desmond wasn't really a terrible barber -- it just looked that way because he bought all of his equipment from Del and it turned out to be defective.
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* ''Series/{{Desmonds}}'' was set in Peckham, and the characters sometimes spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]] (a real-life pub in that part of South London) so it's likely that they'd know the Trotters, socially at least. Del's probably had a few business dealings with Lee over the years, while Cassandra and Michael could work for the same bank. Taking this a step further, Desmond wasn't really a terrible barber -- it just looked that way because he bought all of his equipment from Del and it turned out to be defective.
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* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]] (a real-life pub in that part of South London) so it's likely that they'd know the Trotters, socially at least. Del's probably had a few business dealings with Lee over the years, while Cassandra and Michael could work for the same bank. Taking this a step further, Desmond wasn't really a terrible barber -- it just looked that way because he bought all of his equipment from Del and it turned out to be defective.
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* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} ''Series/{{Desmonds}}'' was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]] (a real-life pub in that part of South London) so it's likely that they'd know the Trotters, socially at least. Del's probably had a few business dealings with Lee over the years, while Cassandra and Michael could work for the same bank. Taking this a step further, Desmond wasn't really a terrible barber -- it just looked that way because he bought all of his equipment from Del and it turned out to be defective.
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* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]].
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* ''Series/FawltyTowers''; in "Homesick", Renee Roberts and Gilly Flower played a pair of old ladies who seemed very similar to their ''Fawlty Towers'' characters. The ''Magazine/RadioTimes'' even named them as such in the cast list.
* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag'sHead]].
Head]] (a real-life pub in that part of South London) so it's likely that they'd know the Trotters, socially at least. Del's probably had a few business dealings with Lee over the years, while Cassandra and Michael could work for the same bank. Taking this a step further, Desmond wasn't really a terrible barber -- it just looked that way because he bought all of his equipment from Del and it turned out to be defective.
* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's
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[[WMG: The show is set in the same universe as several other {{Britcom}}s.]]
The list includes...
* ''Series/{{Porridge}}''; as stated above, Freddie Robdal could also be the [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe actual biological father]] of Raymond Fletcher as well as Rodney Trotter. By this logic, Blanco is probably related to the Trotters.
* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]].
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* ''Series/{{Porridge}}''; as stated above, Freddie Robdal could also be the [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe actual biological father]] of Raymond Fletcher as well as Rodney Trotter. By this logic, Blanco is probably related to the Trotters.
* ''Series/{{Desmonds}} was set in Peckham, and the characters spoke of going to the [[MyLocal Nag's Head]].
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* Why stop there? Freddie could have known [[Series/{{Porridge}} Norman Stanley Fletcher]] through his criminal contacts, and being the charmer that he was, he could well have romanced Mrs. Fletcher while Fletch was still inside. Their son, Raymond (who featured in ''Going Straight''), does look ''a lot'' like Freddie, after all.
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal's life ended in a spectacularly ridiculous way when he ''sat on his own detonator'' during a burglary, killing both himself and his accomplice Gerald 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until ''Rock and Chips'', when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off?
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During the events of "The "[[Recap/OnlyFoolsAndHorsesS5E08TheFrogsLegacy The Frog's Legacy" Legacy]]" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal's life ended in a spectacularly ridiculous way when he ''sat on his own detonator'' during a burglary, killing both himself and his accomplice Gerald 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until ''Rock and Chips'', ''Series/RockAndChips'', when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off?
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[[WMG: Don Vincenzo 'Vinny the Chain' Occhetti from "Miami Twice" is Del's half brother.]]
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[[WMG: Don Vincenzo 'Vinny the Chain' Occhetti from "Miami Twice" "[[Recap/OnlyFoolsAndHorsesS7E08MiamiTwicePartTwoOhToBeInEngland Miami Twice, Part Two: Oh to Be in England]]" is Del's half brother.]]
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Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The Frog's Legacy" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he romanced. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had ''another'' son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''David''. See where this is going?
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Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The "[[Recap/OnlyFoolsAndHorsesS5E08TheFrogsLegacy The Frog's Legacy" Legacy]]" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he romanced. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had ''another'' son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''David''. See where this is going?
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del bucked the trend from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of "Sleepless in Peckham" a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del bucked the trend from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of "Sleepless in Peckham" a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.wrong.
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Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or meets a Sicilian tourist and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.
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Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or leaving Peckham, Reg meets a Sicilian tourist woman and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal's life ended in a spectacularly ridiculous way when he ''sat on his own detonator'' during a burglary, killing both himself and his accomplice Gerald 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until ''Rock and Chips'', when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off?
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[[WMG: Freddie The Frog had a second son.]]
Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The Frog's Legacy" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he romanced. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had ''another'' son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''David''. See where this is going?
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The Frog's Legacy" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he romanced. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had ''another'' son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''David''. See where this is going?
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
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[[WMG: Freddie The the Frog had a second son.]]
Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The Frog's Legacy" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type,with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he romanced. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had ''another'' son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''David''. See where this is going?
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with anotherbuyer acquaintance of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
father, and they both take after him in terms of looks.
Rodney's parentage was hinted at in the "The Frog's Legacy" and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham" - Reg Trotter was not his father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type,
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another
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* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with his wife.
* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with his wife.
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until ’’Rock ''Rock and Chips’’ Chips'', when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off?
* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murderinghim, or him?
* Maybe Reg finally grew a pair andgot revenge for killed Freddie for sleeping with his wife. wife?
* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering
* Maybe Reg finally grew a pair and
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant before he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans by the French Resistance because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans by the French Resistance because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even ''even younger than Rodney, Rodney'', which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he Reg couldn't have gotten a Sicilian woman pregnant before he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germansby ''by the French Resistance Resistance'' because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans
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Hinted at in the aforementioned "The Frog's Legacy", and confirmed during "Sleepless in Peckham", it is revealed that Reg Trotter was not Rodney's father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he had a one-night stand with. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had a second son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''Dave''. See where this is going?
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until ‘’Rock ’’Rock and Chips’’ when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off?
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans ‘’by the French Resistance’’ because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans ‘’by by the French Resistance’’ Resistance because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until "Rock and Chips" where we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off? Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with his wife. Or maybe he was the victim of a criminal rival who'd somehow worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted to find it for himself?
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During the events of "The Frog's Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie 'the Frog' Robdal committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until "Rock ‘’Rock and Chips" where Chips’’ when we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off? off?
* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with hiswife. wife.
* Or maybe he was the victim of a criminal rival who'd somehow worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted to find it for himself?
* Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with his
* Or maybe he was the victim of a criminal rival who'd somehow worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted to find it for himself?
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans by the French Resistance because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in "Strangers on the Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans by ‘’by the French Resistance Resistance’’ because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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[[WMG: The "perfect" girl Trigger talks about in 'Strangers on the Shore' was a real girl]]
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like most peoples "perfect" girls.
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like most peoples "perfect" girls.
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[[WMG: The "perfect" 'perfect' girl Trigger talks about in 'Strangers "Strangers on the Shore' Shore" was a real girl]]
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like mostpeoples "perfect" people's 'perfect' girls.
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like most
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During the events of 'The "The Frog's Legacy' Legacy" we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog 'the Frog' Robdal committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice 'Jelly' Kelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock "Rock and Chips Chips" where we saw just how cool and confident this seasoned criminal was - clearly not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. So maybe someone bumped him off? Perhaps Freddie threatened to take his son (Rodney) or threatened the Trotter family in some way which led to Joan murdering him, or Reg finally grew a pair and got revenge for Freddie sleeping with his wife. Or maybe he was the victim of a criminal rival who'd somehow worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted to find it for himself.himself?
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[[WMG: Don Vincenzo 'Vinny the Chain' Occhetti from 'Miami Twice' was Del's half brother.]]
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being having been rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers "Strangers on the Shore' Shore" when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him.him (and, according to the veteran who talks to Del, the British sailors hiding in the town were betrayed to the Germans by the French Resistance because Albert was sleeping with the local girls). His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It sounds far fetched, but this is WMG.
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Hinted at in the aforementioned ''A Frog's Legacy'', and confirmed during ''Sleepless in Peckham'', it is revealed that Reg Trotter was not Rodney's father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he had a one-night stand with. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had a second son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''Dave''. See where this is going?
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Hinted at in the aforementioned ''A "The Frog's Legacy'', Legacy", and confirmed during ''Sleepless "Sleepless in Peckham'', Peckham", it is revealed that Reg Trotter was not Rodney's father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he had a one-night stand with. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had a second son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''Dave''. See where this is going?
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del bucked the trend from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del bucked the trend from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless "Sleepless in Peckham' Peckham" a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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[[WMG:Freddie The Frog Was Murdered]]
During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife. Or maybe he was murdered by a criminal rival who had worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted it for himself.
During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife. Or maybe he was murdered by a criminal rival who had worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted it for himself.
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[[WMG: Vinny the Chain was Del's half brother.]]
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[[WMG: Vinny Don Vincenzo 'Vinny the Chain Chain' Occhetti from 'Miami Twice' was Del's half brother.]]
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It's far fetched but this is WMG.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks. It's far fetched but this is WMG.
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' before he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks.It's It sounds far fetched fetched, but this is WMG.
** Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks.
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard bucked the trend from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because Reg was too lazy to do a decent day's work, and later because after Joan died and Reg left, Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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[[WMG: Damien will never be as good a market trader as Del.]]
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[[WMG: Damien will never grow up to be nowhere near as good a market trader as Del.]]
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** He could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. Albert's war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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** He Vinny could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. Albert's The notion of Albert being rather promiscuous during his time in the Navy is alluded to in 'Strangers on the Shore' when a lot of the older men in the French town look a bit like him. His war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks, it's looks. It's far fetched but this is WMG.
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[[WMG: Damien will never be as good a marker trader as Del.]]
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because his father was bone-idle, and then because after Joan died and Reg left, he was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for brining up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because his father was bone-idle, and then because after Joan died and Reg left, he was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for brining up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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[[WMG: Damien will never be as good a marker market trader as Del.]]
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in becausehis father Reg was bone-idle, too lazy to do a decent day's work, and then later because after Joan died and Reg left, he Del was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for brining bringing up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose wheeling-and-dealing trading/wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because
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** He could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. Albert's war medals include the Italy Star so he was there during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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** He could be Albert's son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. Albert's war medals include the Italy Star so he was there at some point during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Vinny both take after Albert's father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
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* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.father.
[[WMG: Damien will never be as good a marker trader as Del.]]
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because his father was bone-idle, and then because after Joan died and Reg left, he was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for brining up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
[[WMG: Damien will never be as good a marker trader as Del.]]
If Grandad and Reg are anything to go by, hard work is not something that comes naturally to the Trotters. Del only worked hard from an early age because he had no choice but to work hard - first in order to bring some money in because his father was bone-idle, and then because after Joan died and Reg left, he was the family's sole breadwinner in addition to being responsible for brining up Rodney and looking after Grandad. Damien, by contrast, is by the time of 'Sleepless in Peckham' a spoilt brat with no apparent motivation to work hard and whose wheeling-and-dealing abilities are likely to be over-estimated by his doting father who believes he can do no wrong.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife. Or maybe he was murdered by a criminal rival who had worked out what Freddie did with the gold from the bank heist and wanted it for himself.
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** He could've been Albert's grandson. Maybe Del and Reggie take after Albert's own father, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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** He could've been could be Albert's grandson. son, which would make him Del's first cousin once removed. Albert's war medals include the Italy Star so he was there during the war and could have got a Sicilian girl pregnant then. Maybe Del and Reggie Vinny both take after Albert's own father, father (Del's great-grandfather) in terms of looks, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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Added theory on Freddie The Frog having a second extramarital son named Dave.
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** He could've been Albert's grandson. Maybe Del and Reggie take after Albert's own father, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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** He could've been Albert's grandson. Maybe Del and Reggie take after Albert's own father, it's far fetched but this is WMG.WMG.
[[WMG: Freddie The Frog had a second son.]]
Hinted at in the aforementioned ''A Frog's Legacy'', and confirmed during ''Sleepless in Peckham'', it is revealed that Reg Trotter was not Rodney's father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he had a one-night stand with. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had a second son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''Dave''. See where this is going?
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
[[WMG: Freddie The Frog had a second son.]]
Hinted at in the aforementioned ''A Frog's Legacy'', and confirmed during ''Sleepless in Peckham'', it is revealed that Reg Trotter was not Rodney's father; instead it was Freddie Robdal, a professional criminal. We know this man to be quite the raunchy type, with dominant genetic features, so it stands to reason that Joan Trotter was not the only woman he had a one-night stand with. As a result, this troper believes that Freddie had a second son prior to his death - a near-spitting image of Rodney who became a small-time criminal in his own right, and whose mother named him ''Dave''. See where this is going?
* What could possibly cause Trigger, a man who otherwise manages to everyone else's name right, to get Rodney's continually '''''wrong''''' despite being corrected hundreds of times over the course of the series? It's simple. Somewhere else in London, Trigger regularly gets in contact with another buyer of his; Dave. Every time Trigger meets Dave, he refers to him as Rodney, only to be corrected. Trigger is not intelligent enough to realise that Dave and Rodney are [[IdenticalTwinMistake not the same person]], and who could blame him? They have the same father.
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
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* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.marriage.
** He could've been Albert's grandson. Maybe Del and Reggie take after Albert's own father, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
** He could've been Albert's grandson. Maybe Del and Reggie take after Albert's own father, it's far fetched but this is WMG.
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[[WMG: The "perfect" girl Trigger talks about in 'To Hull and Back' was a real girl]]
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[[WMG: The "perfect" girl Trigger talks about in 'To Hull and Back' 'Strangers on the Shore' was a real girl]]
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Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or meets a Sicilian tourist and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.
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Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or meets a Sicilian tourist and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.also.
* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
* If that theory were true, it would make Vinny even younger than Rodney, which he clearly isn't. Mind you, that's not to say that he couldn't have gotten a Sicilian pregnant ''before'' he met Joan, or cheated on her in the early days of their marriage.
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* [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tragically]], we will never know.
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* [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tragically]], we will never know.know.
[[WMG: Vinny the Chain was Del's half brother.]]
Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or meets a Sicilian tourist and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.
[[WMG: Vinny the Chain was Del's half brother.]]
Sometime after his dad leaves, he heads over to Sicily or meets a Sicilian tourist and impregnates her, only to walk out on her also.
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[[WMG: The "perfect" girl Trigger talks about in 'To Hull and Back' was a real girl]]
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like most peoples "perfect" girls.
He knew and was perhaps romantically interested in. Look how oddly specific he is and and how she really isn't extremely attractive like most peoples "perfect" girls.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife.wife.
* [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tragically]], we will never know.
* [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tragically]], we will never know.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humourous revelation the Freddie the Frog commited suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his acomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife.
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During the events of ''A Frogs Legacy'' we are introduced to the humourous humorous revelation the Freddie the Frog commited committed suicide in a spectacularly ridiculous way by sitting on his own detonator; killing both himself and his acomplice accomplice Kelly the Jelly. This sat perfectly well until Rock and Chips where we saw just how cool, confident and seasoned professional criminal the man was - not a man stupid enough to blow himself up. Either Freddie threatens to take his son (Rodney) or threatens the Trotter family which leads to Joan murdering him OR Reg finally grows a pair and gets some payback for Freddie sleeping with his wife.