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* Might as well toss this in Confirmed, as what happened was close enough.enough.
[[WMG: Scratchman Apoo is a member of the Longarm tribe.]]
Not only does he have unusually long arms, but they also seem to have an extra joint, exactly like the other longarms. Given that Brook fought the longarms after he was sent away by Kuma, this may hint at a future confrontation between the two music-themed pirates.
* Given he also has the same type of old Chinese dress, I'd say this is a given.
** He has two elbows, he's of the Longarm tribe. In fact, he was the first member of the Longarm tribe to be introduced.
* This was stated the first time we saw him, it is hardly a theory.
[[WMG: Scratchman Apoo is a member of the Longarm tribe.]]
Not only does he have unusually long arms, but they also seem to have an extra joint, exactly like the other longarms. Given that Brook fought the longarms after he was sent away by Kuma, this may hint at a future confrontation between the two music-themed pirates.
* Given he also has the same type of old Chinese dress, I'd say this is a given.
** He has two elbows, he's of the Longarm tribe. In fact, he was the first member of the Longarm tribe to be introduced.
* This was stated the first time we saw him, it is hardly a theory.
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[[WMG: A variation of [[CombiningMecha Tactics 15]] will show up later in the series and important in a big fight.]]
[[ChekhovsBoomerang Knowing Oda]], it was intentionally never shown, so later on a full-sized version where all the Straw Hats participate will be revealed to be highly powerful and take down some big opponent.
* Confirmed: Franky's new GiantMecha "General Franky" is based on "Docking," as noted by Chopper and Usopp.
[[WMG: Luffy has learned how to vulcanize himself]]
When he used Gear 3rd against the Kraken, his hand turned black. While the Haki he imbued the attack with may have something to do with it, other people have used Haki without changing colour. Vulcanizing rubber makes it harder and tougher, so it would be an apt power-up for him.
* The translators that do the first version of the weekly chapters were noted to say they messed up on that. It was supposed to be read Vulcanization instead of hardening.
** Ah, but that just goes right around into Fridge Briliance - after all this IS Luffy we're talking about. Do you honestly think he'd use the term 'Vulcanizing'? Alternativly, it could be a way of Luffy's Body showing when he's using Haki... which, while it helps the reader with a visual clue (for those who miss the SHOUTING AT TOP OF LUNGS), also probably clues in Haki-savvy opponents of what he's doing.
* Confirmed: He has used the ability subsequently.
[[WMG: Jones will...]]
[[spoiler:Get back up]], pop some steroids in his mouth, and [[spoiler: return the favor to Zoro]].
* [[spoiler: Sort of. He gets revenge on Zoro, but mostly because of air issues.]].
* Might as well toss this in Confirmed, as what happened was close enough.
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[[WMG: [[ItGotWorse Things are only going to get worse for a while.]]]]
* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's excluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
** Sort of confirmed; [[spoiler:Ace]] dies, [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] shows up, [[spoiler:Whitebeard]] dies, and now (chapter 577) [[spoiler:Blackbeard has the earthquake power]]. Can you say FUCKED?
*** Then there's the hell the World Nobles have promised for the Strawhats when they return, Merman Island losing Whitebeard's protection and falling victim to pirates and slave traders and Luffy's body still being strained and losing his years of life.
[[WMG: Sengoku's fruit is actually a Zoan type.]]
He has a Buddha form and a half-Buddha form.
** Confirmed as of SBS Volume 60. Mythical type, too.
* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's excluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
** Sort of confirmed; [[spoiler:Ace]] dies, [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] shows up, [[spoiler:Whitebeard]] dies, and now (chapter 577) [[spoiler:Blackbeard has the earthquake power]]. Can you say FUCKED?
*** Then there's the hell the World Nobles have promised for the Strawhats when they return, Merman Island losing Whitebeard's protection and falling victim to pirates and slave traders and Luffy's body still being strained and losing his years of life.
[[WMG: Sengoku's fruit is actually a Zoan type.]]
He has a Buddha form and a half-Buddha form.
** Confirmed as of SBS Volume 60. Mythical type, too.
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[[WMG: [[ItGotWorse Things are only going to get worse for a while.]]]]
* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's excluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
** Sort of confirmed; [[spoiler:Ace]] dies, [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] shows up, [[spoiler:Whitebeard]] dies, and now (chapter 577) [[spoiler:Blackbeard has the earthquake power]]. Can you say FUCKED?
*** Then there's the hell the World Nobles have promised for the Strawhats when they return, Merman Island losing Whitebeard's protection and falling victim to pirates and slave traders and Luffy's body still being strained and losing his years of life.
[[WMG: Sengoku's fruit is actually a Zoan type.]]
He has a Buddha form and a half-Buddha form.
** Confirmed as of SBS Volume 60. Mythical type, too.
* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's excluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
** Sort of confirmed; [[spoiler:Ace]] dies, [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] shows up, [[spoiler:Whitebeard]] dies, and now (chapter 577) [[spoiler:Blackbeard has the earthquake power]]. Can you say FUCKED?
*** Then there's the hell the World Nobles have promised for the Strawhats when they return, Merman Island losing Whitebeard's protection and falling victim to pirates and slave traders and Luffy's body still being strained and losing his years of life.
[[WMG: Sengoku's fruit is actually a Zoan type.]]
He has a Buddha form and a half-Buddha form.
** Confirmed as of SBS Volume 60. Mythical type, too.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Ace]] is going to die.]]
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when [[spoiler: Ace]] does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
** This.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed as of chapter 574 - complete with a ReallyDeadMontage, GoOutWithASmile, ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice, HeroicSacrifice, the chapter's title being "[[SpoilerTitle The Death of Portgas D. Ace]]", and the Biblicard (the sign of his life force) being completely destroyed with not an ash left. One thing's for sure: when Oda actually kills off a character, he's extremely thorough about it]]
**** To add to the previous troper's comment, [[spoiler: Shanks and the Whitebeard Pirates are seen attending Ace and Whitebeard's funerals. So they're dead AND buried.]] The only way he's coming back now is if Moriah digs him up. Which could be a MASSIVE {{Berserk Button}} for Luffy.
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when [[spoiler: Ace]] does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
** This.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed as of chapter 574 - complete with a ReallyDeadMontage, GoOutWithASmile, ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice, HeroicSacrifice, the chapter's title being "[[SpoilerTitle The Death of Portgas D. Ace]]", and the Biblicard (the sign of his life force) being completely destroyed with not an ash left. One thing's for sure: when Oda actually kills off a character, he's extremely thorough about it]]
**** To add to the previous troper's comment, [[spoiler: Shanks and the Whitebeard Pirates are seen attending Ace and Whitebeard's funerals. So they're dead AND buried.]] The only way he's coming back now is if Moriah digs him up. Which could be a MASSIVE {{Berserk Button}} for Luffy.
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[[WMG: More Impel Down prisoners will join Blackbeard, and the remaining silver medalists join in the fight against Whitebeard]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
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[[WMG: All their power-ups will go something like this...]]
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
** These are all more or less confirmed.
[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
*** Mostly confirmed. He did hide with help of some of the survivors, though entirely for training purposes, and they all gather together after two years after [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
** These are all more or less confirmed.
[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
*** Mostly confirmed. He did hide with help of some of the survivors, though entirely for training purposes, and they all gather together after two years after [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
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[WMG: The end of the Pirates vs Marines battle will have an unusual end.]]
[[spoiler: Ace's death]] won't cause a HeroicBSOD, but rather and UnstoppableRage in Luffy. The combination of all those crazy hormones, a fresh dose of rage and adrenaline, and apparently vast potential in the use of Haki will cause Luffy to essentially hulk out. He'll begin attacking wildly and not even Logia types will be safe. He'll kill Akainu with his bare hands. The casualties will be enormous to all sides and both Garp and Whitebeard will make a HeroicSacrifice to stop him and get him out of there.
** Did you see his face after [[spoiler: Ace dies]]? Perfect setup for that... [[supersecretspoiler: Now that it's been thought of, Oda will do something even more different/awesome.]]
*** Well, not for Luffy as [[spoiler: He goes into a AngstComa]], but [[spoiler: Shanks shows up]].
[[spoiler: Ace's death]] won't cause a HeroicBSOD, but rather and UnstoppableRage in Luffy. The combination of all those crazy hormones, a fresh dose of rage and adrenaline, and apparently vast potential in the use of Haki will cause Luffy to essentially hulk out. He'll begin attacking wildly and not even Logia types will be safe. He'll kill Akainu with his bare hands. The casualties will be enormous to all sides and both Garp and Whitebeard will make a HeroicSacrifice to stop him and get him out of there.
** Did you see his face after [[spoiler: Ace dies]]? Perfect setup for that... [[supersecretspoiler: Now that it's been thought of, Oda will do something even more different/awesome.]]
*** Well, not for Luffy as [[spoiler: He goes into a AngstComa]], but [[spoiler: Shanks shows up]].
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[[WMG: Hodi Jones was the main cause of Otohime's death]]
All right, this one's pretty easy to figue out, but seems funny some random pirate just happened to die when he was all alone with Jones, a guy who hates Otohime enough to comitt fumi-e on her in the present, isn't it? And how his little speech is lees "Oh my God, she's dead!" to "Oh my God, a human killed her!" in a attempt to get people away from her ideals and the intergration thing. Either he forced the guy to kill her, and then cut the loose end, or he did it, then killed some random guy that just happened to be there.
* I have to dispute this one, considering that Otohime's death fell right in with [[spoiler:Vander Decken's plan to get close to Shirahoshi to use his Devil Fruit ability on her]]. Plus, Hodi's anti-human stance didn't really crop up till ''after'' Otohime's death.
** From a different Troper to the original poster, while Hodi being respnsible for Otohime's death may be the obvious answer, i highly doubt [[spoiler:Vander Decken]] was in any way responsible for her death, as [[spoiler:he clearly has no interest in the Fishman politics, thus having absolutley no motivation for killing her, besides it was shown his entire goal is to wed Shirahoshi for her ability to control seakings, and was behind her when Otohime was shot, from the front]].
And Hodi has shown have anti human tendancies before her death,there were several panels with him and his mates cheering on Tiger when they heard of his attacks and hero worshipping Arlong.
*** From the troper who supports [[spoiler:Vander Decken]] being the one behind Otohime's death: one doesn't ''have'' to be interested in the local politics to assassinate an important political figure. Such an assassination can happen purely for one's own personal motives, which may have nothing to do with politics. [[spoiler:It's not like Decken could just get Shirahoshi's power to control Sea Kings by just asking, after all]].
**** While its true whoever assassinated Otohime didnt have to have done it for political reasons, they still would have had to have some motive.[[spoiler:Vander Decken]] however has not shown any possible reason for wanting to kill Otohime. [[spoiler: Yes he couldn't just ask the king and queen to hand her over, but weve already seen what his master plan for aquiring Shirahoshi was; propose, if rejected: threaten her life. Besides, that was the first time he had been in contact with the princess, his entire reason for being at the scene was to touch her with his power, then retreat, which he did. Why would he kill the Queen then send messages proposing marriage? In his warped mind he thought that asking the King and Queen for her hand would work right off the bat, so why on earth would he kill one of the royals then proceed to send the other one letters? And if he thought he would need to kill the Queen to get his hands on Shirahoshi, why has he not tryed to kill the king?]]
All this besides the fact that he was [[spoiler:standing several metres behind Otohime, specifically standing directly behind Shirahoshi]], when Otohime was clearly shot from the front.
And before you suggest that [[spoiler:Vander Decken had someone on his crew shoot the Queen while he touched the Princess]]. Besides my previous arguments, nothing leading up to or during the 'compulsory crewmate troubled past flashback' had any slightest suggestion or foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Vander Decken and his crew conspiring to kill her, it even had Decken talking to his crew about the prophesy, and the Queen never came up]]. If, now that the flashback has finished, it was revealed that [[spoiler:Decken or his crew shot her]], that would be a complete and utter AssPull, and frankly a low point in Oda's otherwise excellent storytelling.
* But Hodi's not shown to have any ''real'' reason to actually kill Otohime, whether he agreed with her campaign or not. Plus, nothing in the current-day events or in the flashbacks even remotely suggests that he or any of his crewmates had a hand in her death, either. On the other hand, it would be just like [[spoiler:Decken]] to create a very convenient distraction (i.e. the burning of the signatures followed by Otohime's shooting) to pull away all attention so that [[spoiler:he could use his Devil Fruit power on Shirahoshi]]. And it wouldn't be the first time such an underhanded tactic has been used in the series, either...Crocodile created the civil war in Alabasta to cover up his own search for the Pluton weapon; Spandam created the whole fiasco with Robin, and then tried to take advantage of the Straw Hats' BigDamnHeroes at Enies Lobby, in order to score points with the World Government; and Blackbeard used the Whitebeard War to his own advantage [[spoiler:to recruit Impel Down's worst criminals into his crew and then to steal Whitebeard's Quake-Quake Fruit power for himself]].
** Actually, there is one. In Chapter 625, when the Tenryubito comes to Fishman Island, Jones makes a comment about him and his ilk being "the worst trash in the world". Given their slavery of Fishman, it's not hard to say Jones hates them among all other humans, and so when Otohime spared him, in his mind, it's not hard to say he thought of her as a [[TheQuisling Quisling]] type, and due to his extremly rascist views, also probably wasn't a fan of her wanting to bring the Fishmen in human lands.
[[spoiler:Confirmed in the newest chapter]]
[[WMG: Hodi Jones was the main cause of Otohime's death]]
All right, this one's pretty easy to figue out, but seems funny some random pirate just happened to die when he was all alone with Jones, a guy who hates Otohime enough to comitt fumi-e on her in the present, isn't it? And how his little speech is lees "Oh my God, she's dead!" to "Oh my God, a human killed her!" in a attempt to get people away from her ideals and the intergration thing. Either he forced the guy to kill her, and then cut the loose end, or he did it, then killed some random guy that just happened to be there.
* I have to dispute this one, considering that Otohime's death fell right in with [[spoiler:Vander Decken's plan to get close to Shirahoshi to use his Devil Fruit ability on her]]. Plus, Hodi's anti-human stance didn't really crop up till ''after'' Otohime's death.
** From a different Troper to the original poster, while Hodi being respnsible for Otohime's death may be the obvious answer, i highly doubt [[spoiler:Vander Decken]] was in any way responsible for her death, as [[spoiler:he clearly has no interest in the Fishman politics, thus having absolutley no motivation for killing her, besides it was shown his entire goal is to wed Shirahoshi for her ability to control seakings, and was behind her when Otohime was shot, from the front]].
And Hodi has shown have anti human tendancies before her death,there were several panels with him and his mates cheering on Tiger when they heard of his attacks and hero worshipping Arlong.
*** From the troper who supports [[spoiler:Vander Decken]] being the one behind Otohime's death: one doesn't ''have'' to be interested in the local politics to assassinate an important political figure. Such an assassination can happen purely for one's own personal motives, which may have nothing to do with politics. [[spoiler:It's not like Decken could just get Shirahoshi's power to control Sea Kings by just asking, after all]].
**** While its true whoever assassinated Otohime didnt have to have done it for political reasons, they still would have had to have some motive.[[spoiler:Vander Decken]] however has not shown any possible reason for wanting to kill Otohime. [[spoiler: Yes he couldn't just ask the king and queen to hand her over, but weve already seen what his master plan for aquiring Shirahoshi was; propose, if rejected: threaten her life. Besides, that was the first time he had been in contact with the princess, his entire reason for being at the scene was to touch her with his power, then retreat, which he did. Why would he kill the Queen then send messages proposing marriage? In his warped mind he thought that asking the King and Queen for her hand would work right off the bat, so why on earth would he kill one of the royals then proceed to send the other one letters? And if he thought he would need to kill the Queen to get his hands on Shirahoshi, why has he not tryed to kill the king?]]
All this besides the fact that he was [[spoiler:standing several metres behind Otohime, specifically standing directly behind Shirahoshi]], when Otohime was clearly shot from the front.
And before you suggest that [[spoiler:Vander Decken had someone on his crew shoot the Queen while he touched the Princess]]. Besides my previous arguments, nothing leading up to or during the 'compulsory crewmate troubled past flashback' had any slightest suggestion or foreshadowing of [[spoiler:Vander Decken and his crew conspiring to kill her, it even had Decken talking to his crew about the prophesy, and the Queen never came up]]. If, now that the flashback has finished, it was revealed that [[spoiler:Decken or his crew shot her]], that would be a complete and utter AssPull, and frankly a low point in Oda's otherwise excellent storytelling.
* But Hodi's not shown to have any ''real'' reason to actually kill Otohime, whether he agreed with her campaign or not. Plus, nothing in the current-day events or in the flashbacks even remotely suggests that he or any of his crewmates had a hand in her death, either. On the other hand, it would be just like [[spoiler:Decken]] to create a very convenient distraction (i.e. the burning of the signatures followed by Otohime's shooting) to pull away all attention so that [[spoiler:he could use his Devil Fruit power on Shirahoshi]]. And it wouldn't be the first time such an underhanded tactic has been used in the series, either...Crocodile created the civil war in Alabasta to cover up his own search for the Pluton weapon; Spandam created the whole fiasco with Robin, and then tried to take advantage of the Straw Hats' BigDamnHeroes at Enies Lobby, in order to score points with the World Government; and Blackbeard used the Whitebeard War to his own advantage [[spoiler:to recruit Impel Down's worst criminals into his crew and then to steal Whitebeard's Quake-Quake Fruit power for himself]].
** Actually, there is one. In Chapter 625, when the Tenryubito comes to Fishman Island, Jones makes a comment about him and his ilk being "the worst trash in the world". Given their slavery of Fishman, it's not hard to say Jones hates them among all other humans, and so when Otohime spared him, in his mind, it's not hard to say he thought of her as a [[TheQuisling Quisling]] type, and due to his extremly rascist views, also probably wasn't a fan of her wanting to bring the Fishmen in human lands.
[[spoiler:Confirmed in the newest chapter]]
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[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
*** Mostly confirmed. He did hide with help of some of the survivors, though entirely for training purposes, and they all gather together after two years after [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
*** Mostly confirmed. He did hide with help of some of the survivors, though entirely for training purposes, and they all gather together after two years after [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
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* Confirmed, his ship was blown up.up.
[[WMG: All their power-ups will go something like this...]]
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
** These are all more or less confirmed.
[[WMG: All their power-ups will go something like this...]]
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
** These are all more or less confirmed.
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* Almost certainly confirmed, at least partially--with the weird gravitational anomaly pulling Capone's ship out of the ocean, Urouge coming across an island with perpetual lightning where umbrellas are of utmost importance, and Scratchman Apoo discovering they're sailing in midair, we can safely say that the New World has Wackyland physics.
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* Almost certainly confirmed, at least partially--with the weird gravitational anomaly pulling Capone's ship out of the ocean, Urouge coming across an island with perpetual lightning where umbrellas are of utmost importance, and Scratchman Apoo discovering they're sailing in midair, we can safely say that the New World has Wackyland physics.physics.
[[WMG: Sabo is going to die]]
Lessee...[[DeathByFlashback character-building flashback]]? Check. [[TooCoolToLive Intriguing and well-designed character]]? Check. [[HarmfulToMinors Probability of dangerous pirates willing to kill children]]? Double check!
** Alternatively, he's going to get kidnapped and enslaved by the World Nobles.
** Or, he betrays Ace and Luffy.
*** Before Ace died, he mentioned Sabo as one of his good friends.
** More proof: [[spoiler: Sabo was part of the brothers ceremony thereby becoming one of Luffy's brothers; yet Luffy specifically stated during the War on Marineford, "Ace is the only brother I have in the world."]]
* Confirmed, his ship was blown up.
[[WMG: Sabo is going to die]]
Lessee...[[DeathByFlashback character-building flashback]]? Check. [[TooCoolToLive Intriguing and well-designed character]]? Check. [[HarmfulToMinors Probability of dangerous pirates willing to kill children]]? Double check!
** Alternatively, he's going to get kidnapped and enslaved by the World Nobles.
** Or, he betrays Ace and Luffy.
*** Before Ace died, he mentioned Sabo as one of his good friends.
** More proof: [[spoiler: Sabo was part of the brothers ceremony thereby becoming one of Luffy's brothers; yet Luffy specifically stated during the War on Marineford, "Ace is the only brother I have in the world."]]
* Confirmed, his ship was blown up.
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** He could have a slave tattoo 0_0
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* The Blue Databook confirms that [[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Sapi Sapi]], a fisherman from Loguetown is a human-fishman hybrid, so all three species can indeed interbreed.interbreed.
[[WMG: In the New World just as in the first half of the grand line each had it's own climate, the islands here will have different ''physics'' and related Raftel and Will of D WMG]]
As above, each island and it's surrounding ocean will have slightly different but progressively weirder physics and native wildlife. Stuff like icebergs melting upwards creating pillars of water going into the sky, the ocean curling over itself, volcanoes erupting continuously, [[AlienSky bizarre skies]], low hanging moons and insane gravity. This will get progressively weirder and weirder til you reach Raftel which has no set laws of physics. If anyone here has read Roger Zelazny's ''Nine Princes of Amber'' series, I'm thinking something like approaching the Courts of Chaos here. The Will of the D is needed to approach Raftel as otherwise it's formless chaos with the One Piece sitting in the centre of it completely untouchable, but someone with the D can shape Raftel to reflect themselves by force of will. When Roger went to Raftel it looks nice like in the flashbacks because that's what Roger wanted it to be. When Luffy and probably [[spoiler: Blackbeard]] fight there it's going to considerably less pleasant. Basically Raftel is literally a place created by dreams and only the most determined are able to reach there. The series entire ongoing theme made manifest.
* Almost certainly confirmed, at least partially--with the weird gravitational anomaly pulling Capone's ship out of the ocean, Urouge coming across an island with perpetual lightning where umbrellas are of utmost importance, and Scratchman Apoo discovering they're sailing in midair, we can safely say that the New World has Wackyland physics.
[[WMG: In the New World just as in the first half of the grand line each had it's own climate, the islands here will have different ''physics'' and related Raftel and Will of D WMG]]
As above, each island and it's surrounding ocean will have slightly different but progressively weirder physics and native wildlife. Stuff like icebergs melting upwards creating pillars of water going into the sky, the ocean curling over itself, volcanoes erupting continuously, [[AlienSky bizarre skies]], low hanging moons and insane gravity. This will get progressively weirder and weirder til you reach Raftel which has no set laws of physics. If anyone here has read Roger Zelazny's ''Nine Princes of Amber'' series, I'm thinking something like approaching the Courts of Chaos here. The Will of the D is needed to approach Raftel as otherwise it's formless chaos with the One Piece sitting in the centre of it completely untouchable, but someone with the D can shape Raftel to reflect themselves by force of will. When Roger went to Raftel it looks nice like in the flashbacks because that's what Roger wanted it to be. When Luffy and probably [[spoiler: Blackbeard]] fight there it's going to considerably less pleasant. Basically Raftel is literally a place created by dreams and only the most determined are able to reach there. The series entire ongoing theme made manifest.
* Almost certainly confirmed, at least partially--with the weird gravitational anomaly pulling Capone's ship out of the ocean, Urouge coming across an island with perpetual lightning where umbrellas are of utmost importance, and Scratchman Apoo discovering they're sailing in midair, we can safely say that the New World has Wackyland physics.
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[[WMG: The next time we see Usopp, he'll have become ''vastly'' more powerful.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
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* And Fishman/Merman [[MixedMarriage MixedMarriages]] are quite common on Fishman Island, and they can have children together.together.
* The Blue Databook confirms that [[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Sapi Sapi]], a fisherman from Loguetown is a human-fishman hybrid, so all three species can indeed interbreed.
* The Blue Databook confirms that [[http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Sapi Sapi]], a fisherman from Loguetown is a human-fishman hybrid, so all three species can indeed interbreed.
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[[WMG: More Impel Down prisoners will join Blackbeard, and the remaining silver medalists join in the fight against Whitebeard]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
[[WMG: The fate of an individual who consumes two devil fruits will be [[ChekhovsGun more important]] than it [[{{Exposition}} already is]].]]
It so far exists to explain why nobody has two different powers, but the possibility exists that someone, like Kuma or Blackbeard because of their GameBreaker powers, will be killed by being force-fed a second devil fruit. Although with Blackbeard, his devil fruit may negate the second one without harming him anyway.
* The reason it hasn't been explained is because Vegapunk, according to a member of CP9 (Lucci I think) discovered it to be something to do with how it changes your body, presumably DNA or the like, and a second attempted change results in over-stressing the eater's body, killing them.
** Seeing how [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] now has the ability to also use another's DF powers....
It so far exists to explain why nobody has two different powers, but the possibility exists that someone, like Kuma or Blackbeard because of their GameBreaker powers, will be killed by being force-fed a second devil fruit. Although with Blackbeard, his devil fruit may negate the second one without harming him anyway.
* The reason it hasn't been explained is because Vegapunk, according to a member of CP9 (Lucci I think) discovered it to be something to do with how it changes your body, presumably DNA or the like, and a second attempted change results in over-stressing the eater's body, killing them.
** Seeing how [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] now has the ability to also use another's DF powers....
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*** Well, once could say they did in a fashion in helping Luffy to the execution platform.platform.
[[WMG: The next time we see Usopp, he'll have become ''vastly'' more powerful.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
[[WMG: Humans, fishmen, and mermaids are one species and can all interbreed]]
The possibility is touched on when it's shown that humans and mermaids can have children. Presumably, mermaids and fishmen can as well, if Caimie's attraction to Hatchi is any indication. Humans and fishmen seems the next logical step.
* We know Fishmen and giants can interbreed, as we see with Big Pan of the Foxy Pirates; the half breeds are called wotans. Humans and Fishmen are the next logical step. Maybe a halfbreed will join the crew at Fishman island.
* We also know that humans can interbreed with mermaids, having seen that [[spoiler:Chimney]] is the 3/4 human granddaughter of mermaid [[spoiler:Kokoro]].
* And Fishman/Merman [[MixedMarriage MixedMarriages]] are quite common on Fishman Island, and they can have children together.
[[WMG: The next time we see Usopp, he'll have become ''vastly'' more powerful.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
[[WMG: Humans, fishmen, and mermaids are one species and can all interbreed]]
The possibility is touched on when it's shown that humans and mermaids can have children. Presumably, mermaids and fishmen can as well, if Caimie's attraction to Hatchi is any indication. Humans and fishmen seems the next logical step.
* We know Fishmen and giants can interbreed, as we see with Big Pan of the Foxy Pirates; the half breeds are called wotans. Humans and Fishmen are the next logical step. Maybe a halfbreed will join the crew at Fishman island.
* We also know that humans can interbreed with mermaids, having seen that [[spoiler:Chimney]] is the 3/4 human granddaughter of mermaid [[spoiler:Kokoro]].
* And Fishman/Merman [[MixedMarriage MixedMarriages]] are quite common on Fishman Island, and they can have children together.
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*** Penis Blade?
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*** *Ahem* He means third panel when reading right to left. [[spoiler:Sabo]] is only in the third panel if you're reading left to right.
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[[WMG: The 601st issue will be the start of a new voyage]]
The 600th issue being special was a RedHerring, the 601st issue start the voyage because it was 600 issues after Luffy's first journey started.
* Well, all depends how quickly A. the Fakers and/or the Marines are taken down, and B. How fast Brook can get back.
* Sorta confirmed. The chapter was titled "Romance Dawn of a New World," and when Luffy re-declared his ambition, though they didn't actually launch until the next chapter.
[[WMG: When Zoro returns, he'll pull a Mihawk and utterly wreck whole ships.]]
The Straw Hats that'd gathered so far will be in a jam, surrounded by enemy ships... until Zoro makes his dynamic entrance.
* Well,[[spoiler: you're technically right with the whole "splitting ships" thing, but he's more of a CloudCuckooLander than a [[BigDangHeroes Big Dang Hero]]]].
[WMG: The end of the Pirates vs Marines battle will have an unusual end.]]
[[spoiler: Ace's death]] won't cause a HeroicBSOD, but rather and UnstoppableRage in Luffy. The combination of all those crazy hormones, a fresh dose of rage and adrenaline, and apparently vast potential in the use of Haki will cause Luffy to essentially hulk out. He'll begin attacking wildly and not even Logia types will be safe. He'll kill Akainu with his bare hands. The casualties will be enormous to all sides and both Garp and Whitebeard will make a HeroicSacrifice to stop him and get him out of there.
** Did you see his face after [[spoiler: Ace dies]]? Perfect setup for that... [[supersecretspoiler: Now that it's been thought of, Oda will do something even more different/awesome.]]
*** Well, not for Luffy as [[spoiler: He goes into a AngstComa]], but [[spoiler: Shanks shows up]].
[[WMG: More Impel Down prisoners will join Blackbeard, and the remaining silver medalists join in the fight against Whitebeard]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
* Correct as far as the time skip and [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]] goes.
[[WMG: The next time we see Usopp, he'll have become ''vastly'' more powerful.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
[[WMG: The straw hats separation is a XanatosRoulette by Kuma to make the straw hats stronger for some reason.]]
* Luffy landed on an island with the one person (Hancock) who would sympathetic to his cause, have knowledge of Haki, and in an easy position to help him.
* Clima-tact-using Nami landed on an island dedicated to the study of weather.
* Cyborg Franky [[spoiler: just found a lab or stockade of Vegapunk, the legendary cyborg doctor.]]
* Sanji is on an island that perverts his greatest love. He'll come out stronger by being able to hit women, as stated above.
** Alternatively, all that running will have increased Sanji's leg strength.
*** [[spoiler:Confirmed to a degree as of Chapter 605 - it increased his [[SuperSpeed running speed]].]]
* Chopper is on an island with birds. Many paralells have been drawn between Chopper and Rudolph, but one key difference? ''Chopper can't fly.''
* Robin, due to her revolutionary status, is probably the most dangerous member of the Straw Hats bar Luffy and Zoro. [[spoiler: She's with Dragon's forces.]]
* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He sent Perona there too, because he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
** Alternatively, Zoro may discover a ridiculously powerful sword on that island.
** Yet another theory: The island is Mihawk's birthplace. He sails around in a coffin surrounded by candles and generally gives a Dracula vibe, down to his name. Him coming from a spooky, gloomy island would fit with his theme. [[spoiler: Partially confirmed. He lives there, but it isn't his birthplace.]]
** Zoro can't do any physical training (not that he needs it), but his attitude, and general cockiness will probably take a hit from hanging around with all of the ghosts. In other words, he's going to be doing character training.
*** [[spoiler:He winds up doing physical training under Mihawk during the time-skip.]]
* Also, Usopp is training with a great (and possibly cyborg) warrior.
* If the Longarm tribe are anything like Scratchman Apoo, music plays a big part in their lives. While Apoo's explosive power is most likely from his devil fruit, the music connection may be beneficial to Brook.
*** And in relation to this...
[[WMG: All their power-ups will go something like this...]]
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Chopper: The whole 'Chopper will learn to fly' guess seems to be the most effective for the bird island he is on, that or he will become more independent and brave.
* Robin: She will get smarter then she already is and become a great tactician [[BuffySpeak or.. something]](sorry, not much I could think of, besides being with a group of clever revolutionaries).
* Sanji: The other guesses (able to hit women, running will make his legs stronger) work.
** [[spoiler:Running makes him super-fast.]]
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
* Pretty much all confirmed.
[[WMG: Kuma and Garp are secretly allied with Dragon]]
* Garp seems to still be in contact with Dragon and doesn't seem to be too terribly distressed about Luffy's actions in Impel Down. Since he's a higher up in the World Government, he'd make the perfect inside man to help Dragon take care of the Gorousei and staging an ultimate coup to bring down the World Government.
* It also seems rather convenient that Kuma is such a trusted ally of the World Government, yet has constantly failed to eliminate the Straw Hats whenever ordered. It's also a little too convenient that he [[spoiler:sent Luffy to Boa Hancock, a Shichibukai who had yet to answer the World Government's call and had the perfect opportunity to get to Impel Down before Ace's execution.]] The rest of the Straw Hats are also in places that seem either valuable resources or potential {{Power Up}} stations.
* Also, both of them are in on a great big, centuries long conspiracy that seeks to...do something awesome but horrible and dangerous that could get some crap blown up by accident.
** Never would of thought of any of this, but it makes so much sense it's scary.
* [[spoiler:Kuma seems pretty well confirmed as of the latest chapter. The thoughts of Dragon's lieutenant, Emporio Ivankov, imply that Kuma is infiltrating the Shichibukai on behalf of the Revolutionaries. Ivankov is somewhat upset at being blasted by his old friend's lasers, even though he knows Kuma has to maintain his Shichibukai position, but Kuma (no doubt deliberately) does no actual damage to Ivankov.]]
* [[http://www.mangareader.net/103-52556-15/one-piece/chapter-587.html Third panel on this page.]] Now doesn't he look familiar?
** That's [[spoiler: Sabo, the boy who was a friend of Luffy and Ace when they were little kids. He died.]]
*** [[spoiler:Maybe. Before Dragon's ship departs they mentioned picking someone very damaged up. Could be Sabo.]]
[[WMG: The Impel Down Arc will culminate in a major case of NiceJobBreakingItHero]]
Specifically, Luffy will accidentally cause Whitebeard's death, throwing all the islands he claimed into chaos and ruin while successfully rescuing Ace.
* And then, the stress from discovering Whitebeard's death will [[DespairEventHorizon throw Ace over the edge]], making him [[DeathByDespair lose the will to live, and die in Luffy's arms.]] Do the TraumaCongaLine, my candies!
** Sorta confirmed...[[spoiler: Akainu tries to kill Luffy and ace steps in and takes the blast from Akainu's magma fist which is fatal. Ace's vivrecard burns out, he has a flashback, smiles and then dies in Luffys arms. Luffy has a HeroicBSOD of the highest caliber.]]
[WMG: Whitebeard and his troops are eventually going to be {{The Aragorn}} for Luffy]]
Granted, Luffy and his allies would be unable to rescue Ace without their help, but all this set-up seems be to echoing previous battles such as Wyper and the Shandorians versus Enel. It's very likely that all these incredibly overpowered pirates are going to end up [[TheWorfEffect Worfed]] in Luffy's favor.
** [[spoiler: Maybe not Whitebeard due to current events, but his crew is still up in the air]]
*** Well, once could say they did in a fashion in helping Luffy to the execution platform.
The 600th issue being special was a RedHerring, the 601st issue start the voyage because it was 600 issues after Luffy's first journey started.
* Well, all depends how quickly A. the Fakers and/or the Marines are taken down, and B. How fast Brook can get back.
* Sorta confirmed. The chapter was titled "Romance Dawn of a New World," and when Luffy re-declared his ambition, though they didn't actually launch until the next chapter.
[[WMG: When Zoro returns, he'll pull a Mihawk and utterly wreck whole ships.]]
The Straw Hats that'd gathered so far will be in a jam, surrounded by enemy ships... until Zoro makes his dynamic entrance.
* Well,[[spoiler: you're technically right with the whole "splitting ships" thing, but he's more of a CloudCuckooLander than a [[BigDangHeroes Big Dang Hero]]]].
[WMG: The end of the Pirates vs Marines battle will have an unusual end.]]
[[spoiler: Ace's death]] won't cause a HeroicBSOD, but rather and UnstoppableRage in Luffy. The combination of all those crazy hormones, a fresh dose of rage and adrenaline, and apparently vast potential in the use of Haki will cause Luffy to essentially hulk out. He'll begin attacking wildly and not even Logia types will be safe. He'll kill Akainu with his bare hands. The casualties will be enormous to all sides and both Garp and Whitebeard will make a HeroicSacrifice to stop him and get him out of there.
** Did you see his face after [[spoiler: Ace dies]]? Perfect setup for that... [[supersecretspoiler: Now that it's been thought of, Oda will do something even more different/awesome.]]
*** Well, not for Luffy as [[spoiler: He goes into a AngstComa]], but [[spoiler: Shanks shows up]].
[[WMG: More Impel Down prisoners will join Blackbeard, and the remaining silver medalists join in the fight against Whitebeard]]
Luffy said he wanted 10 crewmates not counting himself. Blackbeard is Luffy's {{Evil Counterpart}} and has shown he's looking to increase his crew. Blackbeard and the rest of his crew were last seen heading down into ID, and as far as we know the only thing of interest down there would be the prisoners in Levels 5 and 6, such as Basco Shot. Also, said Level 6 contained prisoners who expressed a desire to kill WB.
* [[spoiler: The recruitment part of this theory has recently been proved true, as Blackbeard has recently reappeared from hiding at the Marineford Building with Shiliew and other new crew members in tow, including: Sanjuan Wolf (holy shit, he makes Oars look puny), Basco Shot, Catarina Devon & Avalo Pizaro.]]
[[WMG: Oda knows about the [[http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=21966 Luffyko]] April Fools joke and found it incredibly amusing.]]
Expect to see Luffy genderswapped for real some time coming up.
* '''[[http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss298/thatother1dude/Luffykoandfriends.jpg Confirmed]]''' via SBS, and the whole crew is with him.
** That genderbent image of Robin is probably the funniest thing I have seen in a long time.
[[WMG: After the "Save Ace" arc there will be a TimeSkip wherein the winner of the war will control the world and Luffy hides with the survivors]]
Luffy's {{Nakama}} have scattered around the world and seems to be finding niches of their own to fill (Franky finding Vegapunk's lab, Robin being saved by the Revolutionary Army, etc.) they would all [[TookALevelInBadass take levels in badass]] to be competent enough whenever Luffy finds them again after the time skip.
** Also, since Oda's favorite manga of all time is DragonBall and there were a few time skips there, it would seem that the TimeSkip is inevitable.
** Also the Marines would probably win. For plot's sake.
* Correct as far as the time skip and [[TookALevelInBadass taking levels in badass]] goes.
[[WMG: The next time we see Usopp, he'll have become ''vastly'' more powerful.]]
Consider Oda's perspective on this: Why send [[TheKrillin the weakest protagonist]] off alone, with only an obvious {{BadassGrandpa}}/{{OldMaster}} type for company, and then make him [[{{Gonk}} absurdly fat]]?[[hottip:* :Besides [[RuleOfFunny hilarity]], that is.]]
To surprise the reader when the character comes back [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower absurdly muscled]] and [[TookALevelInBadass ass-whooping]] of course! Though, knowing Oda, he could well keep (some of?) the fat but still be [[StoutStrength ludicrously strong]].
** That could ruin Usopp's BadassNormal trait, considering Oda said he's suppouse to be as close to a normal human.
*** Nah, Sogeking didn't ruin it either. Why should this one?
*** Sogeking was just Usopp using different gadgets and a slightly more confident personality. Giving him an actual power like super strength would indeed wreck his BadassNormal status, and go against WordOfGod.
*** So then, does the ability to take a four ton baseball bat to count as a normal human trait? Admittedly, in this story, [[DeathIsCheap it ''is'' hard to tell.]]
*** Who says we want to give him super strength or anything stupid like that? No matter how you look at it, Sogeking was still a significant upgrade, as far as BadassNormals go. Give him another one like that, and he'll be a real powerhouse.
*** Here's an idea. Who else have we seen whos fat, but also increadibly fast and stealthy in One Piece? Lucky Roux. Somehow Ussop is going to increase his speed and stealth by training while bieng fat. And for a Sniper, that's a great upgrade.
**** [[spoiler:After the time-skip, Usopp's become more lean and muscular, plus he now has a wide arsenal of weapons from the island where he was sent.]]
[[WMG: The straw hats separation is a XanatosRoulette by Kuma to make the straw hats stronger for some reason.]]
* Luffy landed on an island with the one person (Hancock) who would sympathetic to his cause, have knowledge of Haki, and in an easy position to help him.
* Clima-tact-using Nami landed on an island dedicated to the study of weather.
* Cyborg Franky [[spoiler: just found a lab or stockade of Vegapunk, the legendary cyborg doctor.]]
* Sanji is on an island that perverts his greatest love. He'll come out stronger by being able to hit women, as stated above.
** Alternatively, all that running will have increased Sanji's leg strength.
*** [[spoiler:Confirmed to a degree as of Chapter 605 - it increased his [[SuperSpeed running speed]].]]
* Chopper is on an island with birds. Many paralells have been drawn between Chopper and Rudolph, but one key difference? ''Chopper can't fly.''
* Robin, due to her revolutionary status, is probably the most dangerous member of the Straw Hats bar Luffy and Zoro. [[spoiler: She's with Dragon's forces.]]
* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He sent Perona there too, because he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
** Alternatively, Zoro may discover a ridiculously powerful sword on that island.
** Yet another theory: The island is Mihawk's birthplace. He sails around in a coffin surrounded by candles and generally gives a Dracula vibe, down to his name. Him coming from a spooky, gloomy island would fit with his theme. [[spoiler: Partially confirmed. He lives there, but it isn't his birthplace.]]
** Zoro can't do any physical training (not that he needs it), but his attitude, and general cockiness will probably take a hit from hanging around with all of the ghosts. In other words, he's going to be doing character training.
*** [[spoiler:He winds up doing physical training under Mihawk during the time-skip.]]
* Also, Usopp is training with a great (and possibly cyborg) warrior.
* If the Longarm tribe are anything like Scratchman Apoo, music plays a big part in their lives. While Apoo's explosive power is most likely from his devil fruit, the music connection may be beneficial to Brook.
*** And in relation to this...
[[WMG: All their power-ups will go something like this...]]
* Luffy: Boa will help him master Haki and it will allow him to hit Logia-users (such as how Rayleigh was able to stop kizaru's attacks).
** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed - it's Rayleigh who teaches him.]]
* Zoro: Related to the 'spooky castle is Mihawks home' guess, Zoro will meet the person who trained Mihawk/find out how Mihawk got so strong, then after healing, will train.
** [[spoiler:He trains under Mihawk himself.]]
* Nami: She will get the weather scientist to help her power up her clima-tact with more advanced weather abilities.
* Usopp: On the dangerous island, with the warrior, he will become stealthier and faster, along with being more durable.
* Chopper: The whole 'Chopper will learn to fly' guess seems to be the most effective for the bird island he is on, that or he will become more independent and brave.
* Robin: She will get smarter then she already is and become a great tactician [[BuffySpeak or.. something]](sorry, not much I could think of, besides being with a group of clever revolutionaries).
* Sanji: The other guesses (able to hit women, running will make his legs stronger) work.
** [[spoiler:Running makes him super-fast.]]
* Franky: He will steal some of Vegapunks blueprints and equipment, hide somewhere, and power himself up.
** Basically confirmed.
* Brook: He will learn many different musical attacks (similar to his lullaby thing from the Flying Fish Riders fight).
* Pretty much all confirmed.
[[WMG: Kuma and Garp are secretly allied with Dragon]]
* Garp seems to still be in contact with Dragon and doesn't seem to be too terribly distressed about Luffy's actions in Impel Down. Since he's a higher up in the World Government, he'd make the perfect inside man to help Dragon take care of the Gorousei and staging an ultimate coup to bring down the World Government.
* It also seems rather convenient that Kuma is such a trusted ally of the World Government, yet has constantly failed to eliminate the Straw Hats whenever ordered. It's also a little too convenient that he [[spoiler:sent Luffy to Boa Hancock, a Shichibukai who had yet to answer the World Government's call and had the perfect opportunity to get to Impel Down before Ace's execution.]] The rest of the Straw Hats are also in places that seem either valuable resources or potential {{Power Up}} stations.
* Also, both of them are in on a great big, centuries long conspiracy that seeks to...do something awesome but horrible and dangerous that could get some crap blown up by accident.
** Never would of thought of any of this, but it makes so much sense it's scary.
* [[spoiler:Kuma seems pretty well confirmed as of the latest chapter. The thoughts of Dragon's lieutenant, Emporio Ivankov, imply that Kuma is infiltrating the Shichibukai on behalf of the Revolutionaries. Ivankov is somewhat upset at being blasted by his old friend's lasers, even though he knows Kuma has to maintain his Shichibukai position, but Kuma (no doubt deliberately) does no actual damage to Ivankov.]]
* [[http://www.mangareader.net/103-52556-15/one-piece/chapter-587.html Third panel on this page.]] Now doesn't he look familiar?
** That's [[spoiler: Sabo, the boy who was a friend of Luffy and Ace when they were little kids. He died.]]
*** [[spoiler:Maybe. Before Dragon's ship departs they mentioned picking someone very damaged up. Could be Sabo.]]
[[WMG: The Impel Down Arc will culminate in a major case of NiceJobBreakingItHero]]
Specifically, Luffy will accidentally cause Whitebeard's death, throwing all the islands he claimed into chaos and ruin while successfully rescuing Ace.
* And then, the stress from discovering Whitebeard's death will [[DespairEventHorizon throw Ace over the edge]], making him [[DeathByDespair lose the will to live, and die in Luffy's arms.]] Do the TraumaCongaLine, my candies!
** Sorta confirmed...[[spoiler: Akainu tries to kill Luffy and ace steps in and takes the blast from Akainu's magma fist which is fatal. Ace's vivrecard burns out, he has a flashback, smiles and then dies in Luffys arms. Luffy has a HeroicBSOD of the highest caliber.]]
[WMG: Whitebeard and his troops are eventually going to be {{The Aragorn}} for Luffy]]
Granted, Luffy and his allies would be unable to rescue Ace without their help, but all this set-up seems be to echoing previous battles such as Wyper and the Shandorians versus Enel. It's very likely that all these incredibly overpowered pirates are going to end up [[TheWorfEffect Worfed]] in Luffy's favor.
** [[spoiler: Maybe not Whitebeard due to current events, but his crew is still up in the air]]
*** Well, once could say they did in a fashion in helping Luffy to the execution platform.
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Spoilering the names of some people who die. Since we spoilered that they were confirmed, it seemed fair enough. Also, discluded is not a word ;-]
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[[WMG: Ace is screwed]]
The real purpose behind Ace's Vivre card is to be a more succinct version of the ReallyDeadMontage, to drive the point home that yes, he's dead, and he's not coming back.
The real purpose behind Ace's Vivre card is to be a more succinct version of the ReallyDeadMontage, to drive the point home that yes, he's dead, and he's not coming back.
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[[WMG: Ace [[spoiler: Ace]] is screwed]]
The real purpose behind [[spoiler: Ace's Vivrecard card]] is to be a more succinct version of the ReallyDeadMontage, to drive the point home that yes, he's dead, and he's not coming back.
The real purpose behind [[spoiler: Ace's Vivre
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[[WMG: Whitebeard is screwed.]]
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen if Whitebeard suddenly kicked the bucket?
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want if Whitebeard just dies from health problems.
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead, Whitebeard will be severely weakened and lose the bulk of his forces, thereby weakening the position of the Yonkous. This will leave room for the Rookies to muscle into his territory and still cause chaos without having Whitebeard die.
** The most recent chapter all but confirms that Whitebeard's about done.
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen if Whitebeard suddenly kicked the bucket?
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want if Whitebeard just dies from health problems.
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead, Whitebeard will be severely weakened and lose the bulk of his forces, thereby weakening the position of the Yonkous. This will leave room for the Rookies to muscle into his territory and still cause chaos without having Whitebeard die.
** The most recent chapter all but confirms that Whitebeard's about done.
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[[WMG: Whitebeard [[spoiler: Whitebeard]] is screwed.]]
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen ifWhitebeard [[spoiler: Whitebeard]] suddenly kicked the bucket?
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want ifWhitebeard [[spoiler: Whitebeard]] just dies from health problems.
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead,Whitebeard [[spoiler: Whitebeard]] will be severely weakened and lose the bulk of his forces, thereby weakening the position of the Yonkous. This will leave room for the Rookies to muscle into his territory and still cause chaos without having Whitebeard [[spoiler: Whitebeard]] die.
** The most recent chapter all but confirms thatWhitebeard's [[spoiler: Whitebeard's]] about done.
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen if
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want if
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead,
** The most recent chapter all but confirms that
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[[WMG: Ace is going to die.]]
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when Ace does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when Ace does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
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[[WMG: Ace [[spoiler: Ace]] is going to die.]]
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it whenAce [[spoiler: Ace]] does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when
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* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's discluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
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* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's discluding excluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
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[[WMG: Trafalgar Law has some connection to Whitebeard.]]
Notice how similar his "smiley" Jolly Roger is to the symbol on the IV tubes Whitebeard had hooked up prior to the current war arc? And now we learn that Law really is a doctor, as his "Surgeon of Death" nickname implied. I'm suspecting that before he set out to form his own crew, he was an apprentice to Whitebeard's doctor.
* Confirmed, in that Law has [[spoiler: Shown up to 1. heal Luffy, and after that 2. kick ass, presumably.]]
[[WMG: Rather than being older than she looks, Jewelry Bonney is actually a little kid using her powers to appear as an adult most of the time.]]
* Her eating habits are certainly a lot like a kid who'd reveling in being able to eat whatever they want without anybody bothering them about ruining their appitite. Her clothing also looks like the sort of outfit a kid puts together when left to their own devices. The reason she has such a huge bounty as a rookie could be because when she set out on her journey with a child's impulsiveness and inability to foresee the consequences of their actions and ended up getting into deep trouble with the World Government because of it and is now trying to stay under the radar because she's learned her lesson and doesn't want to get into worse trouble.
Notice how similar his "smiley" Jolly Roger is to the symbol on the IV tubes Whitebeard had hooked up prior to the current war arc? And now we learn that Law really is a doctor, as his "Surgeon of Death" nickname implied. I'm suspecting that before he set out to form his own crew, he was an apprentice to Whitebeard's doctor.
* Confirmed, in that Law has [[spoiler: Shown up to 1. heal Luffy, and after that 2. kick ass, presumably.]]
[[WMG: Rather than being older than she looks, Jewelry Bonney is actually a little kid using her powers to appear as an adult most of the time.]]
* Her eating habits are certainly a lot like a kid who'd reveling in being able to eat whatever they want without anybody bothering them about ruining their appitite. Her clothing also looks like the sort of outfit a kid puts together when left to their own devices. The reason she has such a huge bounty as a rookie could be because when she set out on her journey with a child's impulsiveness and inability to foresee the consequences of their actions and ended up getting into deep trouble with the World Government because of it and is now trying to stay under the radar because she's learned her lesson and doesn't want to get into worse trouble.
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[[WMG: Kuma is Dead. Long live Kuma.]]
* Related to earlier [=WMGs=] and the fact that Oda never seems to waste any detail, the Bartholomew Kuma that we know and are completely confused by is dead. However, somehow Kuma's loyalty programming will be disabled - he'll push it out of his own head, he whispered a disable code to Silvers Rayleigh on Sabody, Luffy kicks him in ''just'' the right spot.
His eye lenses will fall out. He'll take off his NiceHat. What we will have is a fully cybernetic, incredibly pissed off Kuma.
The return of "[[RedBaron The Tyrant.]]"
[[WMG: The Yami Yami no Mi is not Blackbeard's original devil fruit.]]
* All the devil fruit powers that Blackbeard were devil fruits that he stole from other people. This would explain why he has such diverse powers (gravity, darkness, power nullification). He was waiting for the Yami Yami no Mi to be eaten so he could steal it himself, giving him enough power to take on Whitebeard. His original power is {{Mega Manning}}.
[[WMG: The anime will get an OddlyNamedSequel]]
* Like {{Naruto}} and DragonBall, the OnePiece manga will still have the same name. But once the crew enters the New World in the anime, a new series of OnePiece will begin like 'One Piece: New World' or something like that.
* Related to earlier [=WMGs=] and the fact that Oda never seems to waste any detail, the Bartholomew Kuma that we know and are completely confused by is dead. However, somehow Kuma's loyalty programming will be disabled - he'll push it out of his own head, he whispered a disable code to Silvers Rayleigh on Sabody, Luffy kicks him in ''just'' the right spot.
His eye lenses will fall out. He'll take off his NiceHat. What we will have is a fully cybernetic, incredibly pissed off Kuma.
The return of "[[RedBaron The Tyrant.]]"
[[WMG: The Yami Yami no Mi is not Blackbeard's original devil fruit.]]
* All the devil fruit powers that Blackbeard were devil fruits that he stole from other people. This would explain why he has such diverse powers (gravity, darkness, power nullification). He was waiting for the Yami Yami no Mi to be eaten so he could steal it himself, giving him enough power to take on Whitebeard. His original power is {{Mega Manning}}.
[[WMG: The anime will get an OddlyNamedSequel]]
* Like {{Naruto}} and DragonBall, the OnePiece manga will still have the same name. But once the crew enters the New World in the anime, a new series of OnePiece will begin like 'One Piece: New World' or something like that.
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[[WMG: The character with an eye patch planned will be Zoro.]]
Look at the latest chapter title. His right eye is closed and has a great scar over it. It's possible he's just got the scar anyway and the eye escaped untouched, but it feels a bit weird closing that eye when he's just standing there.
* That would be AWESOME
** As of ch. 599, it looks like [[spoiler:his loss of an eye has been confirmed. Any guesses on how he lost it?]]
*** Probably fell down the stairs.
*** Mihawk fell down the stairs carrying his sword, nicked Zoro in the process and then impaled himself at the bottom of the stairs. Zoro looks at him, then at the stairs, and decides he can brag that he lost his eye when he defeated the world's greatest swordsman. Then he empties his bar and leaves. That's why he was early to Sabaody - he started his journey before the others.
[[WMG: Fishman Island is the next destination.]]
Bear with me here, folks, but it's a high possibility given that they can finally go underwater. I know it sounds crazy, but it could happen!
* As of Chapter 607, they've finally arrived there.
[[WMG: The reason there's been no water-element ([[AnIcePerson ice]] yes, [[MakingASplash water]] no) Logia user yet is because they wouldn't have the normal weakness of Devil Fruit users]]
* ...uh, yeah. That's not really a WMG, since its more-or-less obvious. Less of a guess nor is it wild.
** Uhm, Chapter 603 is out, so...wow, great timing on this WMG. Still, it could turn out Caribou has something like slime or, more in character for Caribou, blood... I mean, the filler Logia's were both semi-liquid and still had the standard weaknesses. A slime Logia would most likely completely solidify. But then, we're underwater now...next chapter should prove to be interesting.
* Well, they would have one non-standard weakness: Crocodile would be able to neutralise their power by absoring their moisture. On the flipsode: They (in this case Caribou) would be able to neutralise Crocodile's sand defense and hurt him. So basically they both neutralise one-another abilities, which makes them pretty much natural enemies, like Luffy to Enel. Also, rooting for Crocodile Vs Caribou now. And then there's probably the fact the things get mixed in liquid easily - for example, if sea water got mixed in with his body, Caribou would probably need to take time to get the sea water out of his body in order to use his abilities. Also, Akoji could proabably one-shot him really quickly with his Ice powers, since Caribou is made of an unidentified liquid...
** Caribou's power is more mud-based, as Franky reveals.
Look at the latest chapter title. His right eye is closed and has a great scar over it. It's possible he's just got the scar anyway and the eye escaped untouched, but it feels a bit weird closing that eye when he's just standing there.
* That would be AWESOME
** As of ch. 599, it looks like [[spoiler:his loss of an eye has been confirmed. Any guesses on how he lost it?]]
*** Probably fell down the stairs.
*** Mihawk fell down the stairs carrying his sword, nicked Zoro in the process and then impaled himself at the bottom of the stairs. Zoro looks at him, then at the stairs, and decides he can brag that he lost his eye when he defeated the world's greatest swordsman. Then he empties his bar and leaves. That's why he was early to Sabaody - he started his journey before the others.
[[WMG: Fishman Island is the next destination.]]
Bear with me here, folks, but it's a high possibility given that they can finally go underwater. I know it sounds crazy, but it could happen!
* As of Chapter 607, they've finally arrived there.
[[WMG: The reason there's been no water-element ([[AnIcePerson ice]] yes, [[MakingASplash water]] no) Logia user yet is because they wouldn't have the normal weakness of Devil Fruit users]]
* ...uh, yeah. That's not really a WMG, since its more-or-less obvious. Less of a guess nor is it wild.
** Uhm, Chapter 603 is out, so...wow, great timing on this WMG. Still, it could turn out Caribou has something like slime or, more in character for Caribou, blood... I mean, the filler Logia's were both semi-liquid and still had the standard weaknesses. A slime Logia would most likely completely solidify. But then, we're underwater now...next chapter should prove to be interesting.
* Well, they would have one non-standard weakness: Crocodile would be able to neutralise their power by absoring their moisture. On the flipsode: They (in this case Caribou) would be able to neutralise Crocodile's sand defense and hurt him. So basically they both neutralise one-another abilities, which makes them pretty much natural enemies, like Luffy to Enel. Also, rooting for Crocodile Vs Caribou now. And then there's probably the fact the things get mixed in liquid easily - for example, if sea water got mixed in with his body, Caribou would probably need to take time to get the sea water out of his body in order to use his abilities. Also, Akoji could proabably one-shot him really quickly with his Ice powers, since Caribou is made of an unidentified liquid...
** Caribou's power is more mud-based, as Franky reveals.
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[[WMG: There are more models of the Hito Hito Fruits.]]
Outside of humans, what other sentient species are there? Giants, Skypians and among others. Fishman and Merfolk however...
* There may be Zoan Fruits for the One Piece universe's own animals.
** Confirmed via the SBS via Volume 60. There is at least the normal one and a Mythical Zoan-type of the Daibatsu.
[[WMG: The straw hat once belonged to Rogers]]
It is not, however, One Piece. Rogers meets a young Shanks and gives him the hat, just like Shanks did with Luffy. The difference is that Shanks wouldn't let Luffy join his crew.
* As good as confirmed in chapter 603, Roger is shown meeting Rayleigh wearing a strawhat
[[WMG: We're getting a time skip]]
Theories are that the 'message' Luffy left his crew is in his newly-gotten tattoo, visible in the newspaper picture. This tattoo supposedly says "SA2Y". Sabaody Archipelago, Two Years. This is why the rest of the crew suddenly change plans: their meeting is 2 years from now.
* This would explain Oda saying this was Luffy's last adventure in as an 18-year-old. Or whichever age it was. [[http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73264755/10 Here's the picture if you're confused.]]
* Spin off theory: Zoro won't get the message and will go straight to Sabaody Archipelago, and will proceed to wander around for two years until he finds the Going Merry.
** That, or clueless Zoro will need Mihawk to explain the message, [[AudienceSurrogate which conveniently lets Oda explain the message to the reader.]]
** I thought that SA2Y meant Sabo Ace 2 Yujin (Japanese word for friend). Maybe it's a duel meaning.
** The armband is just a RedHerring for us, and tribute to Ace for him. The true meaning is the ringing of the Ox Bell. Which, given Killer's explanation, seems more like a one year time skip.
** There's the possibility that the Ox Bell is the RedHerring and the tattoo is the real hidden message
*** And ringing the Ox Bell sounds more like something Luffy would do out of a whim than getting a tattoo. Rayleigh said it himself, the message is in something Luffy would otherwise never do.
**** Unless the tattoo (which, whatever it says is very similar to ace's) is Luffy's way of memorializing his brother
** All but confirmed, since everyone is preparing for staying a while on wherever they are.
** [[spoiler: And now it IS confirmed as of the latest chapter.]]
*** [[spoiler: Awesome, my WMG was right. Though the reasoning was a bit off.]]
[[WMG: Mihawk will train Zoro]]
Every other Straw Hat is at an island perfectly convenient to help them get stronger. So who better than the world's greatest swordsman to train him? I know its not likely, but hey its a WMG.
* [[spoiler:Looks like you're right on the money with this one.]]
** [[spoiler:Holy Crap, this is the first time any of my WMG's has ever been right!]]
Outside of humans, what other sentient species are there? Giants, Skypians and among others. Fishman and Merfolk however...
* There may be Zoan Fruits for the One Piece universe's own animals.
** Confirmed via the SBS via Volume 60. There is at least the normal one and a Mythical Zoan-type of the Daibatsu.
[[WMG: The straw hat once belonged to Rogers]]
It is not, however, One Piece. Rogers meets a young Shanks and gives him the hat, just like Shanks did with Luffy. The difference is that Shanks wouldn't let Luffy join his crew.
* As good as confirmed in chapter 603, Roger is shown meeting Rayleigh wearing a strawhat
[[WMG: We're getting a time skip]]
Theories are that the 'message' Luffy left his crew is in his newly-gotten tattoo, visible in the newspaper picture. This tattoo supposedly says "SA2Y". Sabaody Archipelago, Two Years. This is why the rest of the crew suddenly change plans: their meeting is 2 years from now.
* This would explain Oda saying this was Luffy's last adventure in as an 18-year-old. Or whichever age it was. [[http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/73264755/10 Here's the picture if you're confused.]]
* Spin off theory: Zoro won't get the message and will go straight to Sabaody Archipelago, and will proceed to wander around for two years until he finds the Going Merry.
** That, or clueless Zoro will need Mihawk to explain the message, [[AudienceSurrogate which conveniently lets Oda explain the message to the reader.]]
** I thought that SA2Y meant Sabo Ace 2 Yujin (Japanese word for friend). Maybe it's a duel meaning.
** The armband is just a RedHerring for us, and tribute to Ace for him. The true meaning is the ringing of the Ox Bell. Which, given Killer's explanation, seems more like a one year time skip.
** There's the possibility that the Ox Bell is the RedHerring and the tattoo is the real hidden message
*** And ringing the Ox Bell sounds more like something Luffy would do out of a whim than getting a tattoo. Rayleigh said it himself, the message is in something Luffy would otherwise never do.
**** Unless the tattoo (which, whatever it says is very similar to ace's) is Luffy's way of memorializing his brother
** All but confirmed, since everyone is preparing for staying a while on wherever they are.
** [[spoiler: And now it IS confirmed as of the latest chapter.]]
*** [[spoiler: Awesome, my WMG was right. Though the reasoning was a bit off.]]
[[WMG: Mihawk will train Zoro]]
Every other Straw Hat is at an island perfectly convenient to help them get stronger. So who better than the world's greatest swordsman to train him? I know its not likely, but hey its a WMG.
* [[spoiler:Looks like you're right on the money with this one.]]
** [[spoiler:Holy Crap, this is the first time any of my WMG's has ever been right!]]
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He has a Buddha form and a half-Buddha form.
** Confirmed as of SBS Volume 60. Mythical type, too.
[[WMG: Trafalgar Law has some connection to Whitebeard.]]
Notice how similar his "smiley" Jolly Roger is to the symbol on the IV tubes Whitebeard had hooked up prior to the current war arc? And now we learn that Law really is a doctor, as his "Surgeon of Death" nickname implied. I'm suspecting that before he set out to form his own crew, he was an apprentice to Whitebeard's doctor.
* Confirmed, in that Law has [[spoiler: Shown up to 1. heal Luffy, and after that 2. kick ass, presumably.]]
[[WMG: Rather than being older than she looks, Jewelry Bonney is actually a little kid using her powers to appear as an adult most of the time.]]
* Her eating habits are certainly a lot like a kid who'd reveling in being able to eat whatever they want without anybody bothering them about ruining their appitite. Her clothing also looks like the sort of outfit a kid puts together when left to their own devices. The reason she has such a huge bounty as a rookie could be because when she set out on her journey with a child's impulsiveness and inability to foresee the consequences of their actions and ended up getting into deep trouble with the World Government because of it and is now trying to stay under the radar because she's learned her lesson and doesn't want to get into worse trouble.
[[WMG: Crocodile keeps helping because of DefeatEqualsFriendship.]]
* Basically, Luffy convinced him he was WRONG. But, he knows that Luffy won't buy it so he isn't even trying to argue it. He volunteered to help save, he makes sure to rescue Daz Bones, he stopped attacking Whitebeard on command, he saved Ace from the executioners, he stopped Mihawk from attacking Luffy, he rejected Doflamingos offer of alliance (which might have let him back into the Shichibukai) and he stopped Akainu from pursuing Luffy any farther. He's been so consistently helpful and loyal even when it's not in his best interest that something HAS to be going on with him. He'll still keep acting like a jerk because he kicked way too many dogs in the Alabasta Arc for anyone to buy anything like a heel face turn.
** Consider this: Crocodile is like the Shiki to Luffy's Roger. Just like Shiki, Crocodile sees in Luffy his ultimate rival. NO ONE gets the privilege of doing in Luffy [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou before he does]], and he's willing to go to ANY length to preserve that.
*** But why save Mr 1 and Ace? Mr 1 is a strong fighter, but doesn't really carry that much weight when compared to the other extremely powerful marines and pirates in the battle. Crocodile has no real reason to save Ace, either.
*** He may be doing all this because he sees what he once was in Luffy and what sentimentality remains with him is driving him to stop Luffy turning out like he did. Maybe Luffy relit a spark of who he once was and it makes him ashamed, whether subconsciously or not.
**** Considering that he's planning to go to the New World, with Mr. 1 tagging along as [[TheDragon his Dragon,]] it's quite likely.
[[WMG: Kuma is Dead. Long live Kuma.]]
* Related to earlier [=WMGs=] and the fact that Oda never seems to waste any detail, the Bartholomew Kuma that we know and are completely confused by is dead. However, somehow Kuma's loyalty programming will be disabled - he'll push it out of his own head, he whispered a disable code to Silvers Rayleigh on Sabody, Luffy kicks him in ''just'' the right spot.
His eye lenses will fall out. He'll take off his NiceHat. What we will have is a fully cybernetic, incredibly pissed off Kuma.
The return of "[[RedBaron The Tyrant.]]"
[[WMG: The Yami Yami no Mi is not Blackbeard's original devil fruit.]]
* All the devil fruit powers that Blackbeard were devil fruits that he stole from other people. This would explain why he has such diverse powers (gravity, darkness, power nullification). He was waiting for the Yami Yami no Mi to be eaten so he could steal it himself, giving him enough power to take on Whitebeard. His original power is {{Mega Manning}}.
[[WMG: The anime will get an OddlyNamedSequel]]
* Like {{Naruto}} and DragonBall, the OnePiece manga will still have the same name. But once the crew enters the New World in the anime, a new series of OnePiece will begin like 'One Piece: New World' or something like that.
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The rampant DisneyDeath throughout the story thus far has been a tremendous swerve by Oda so that no one will believe it when Ace does meet his end. But he will, and it will be the best and worst thing to ever happen to One Piece.
** This.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed as of chapter 574 - complete with a ReallyDeadMontage, GoOutWithASmile, ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice, HeroicSacrifice, the chapter's title being "[[SpoilerTitle The Death of Portgas D. Ace]]", and the Biblicard (the sign of his life force) being completely destroyed with not an ash left. One thing's for sure: when Oda actually kills off a character, he's extremely thorough about it]]
**** To add to the previous troper's comment, [[spoiler: Shanks and the Whitebeard Pirates are seen attending Ace and Whitebeard's funerals. So they're dead AND buried.]] The only way he's coming back now is if Moriah digs him up. Which could be a MASSIVE {{Berserk Button}} for Luffy.
[[WMG: [[ItGotWorse Things are only going to get worse for a while.]]]]
* Isn't it inevitable? Absolute best-case scenario (unless it was AllJustADream), with Oda's level of storytelling, he'll eventually have to deal with [[spoiler:Luffy dealing with Ace's death]], which will be just as depressing as the actual event. And that's discluding that currently, he's up against some of, if not ''the'', the most powerful people in the OP-verse, and Whitebeard is likely still to die. Worst case scenario... can you say "killing spree"?
** Sort of confirmed; [[spoiler:Ace]] dies, [[spoiler:Blackbeard]] shows up, [[spoiler:Whitebeard]] dies, and now (chapter 577) [[spoiler:Blackbeard has the earthquake power]]. Can you say FUCKED?
*** Then there's the hell the World Nobles have promised for the Strawhats when they return, Merman Island losing Whitebeard's protection and falling victim to pirates and slave traders and Luffy's body still being strained and losing his years of life.
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[[WMG: Ace is screwed]]
The real purpose behind Ace's Vivre card is to be a more succinct version of the ReallyDeadMontage, to drive the point home that yes, he's dead, and he's not coming back.
* Only problem is that NO ONE in One Piece, besides people in flashbacks and [[spoiler: a beloved ship]], have died. [[WordofGod Oda]] specifically stated that he hates it when people die in stories just to get sympathy from the audience.
** I think an exception can be made though if it's of world shattering, plot-shaking importance, rather than just killing characters to make the villain look more evil, which may be what Oda was referring to. Either way, it would be pretty silly if no named or significant character died in the upcoming battle, given how much it's been hyped up as a world shattering, plot-shaking event.
*** In chapter 573 it[[spoiler: looks like this spec was right on. Ace gets a magma fist through his torso, after it's established, Akainu's magma nulls Ace's fire powers and lets Akainu hurt him, just like Luffy's rubber let him hit Eneru. Luffy looks down and sees the Vivre card burn into almost nothing. We have to wait til chapter 574 to see if that means he'll survive or if this is just a cliffhanger.]]
*** [[spoiler:Bingo. The card burns away when Ace is KilledOffForReal in chapter 574.]]
[[WMG: Whitebeard is screwed.]]
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen if Whitebeard suddenly kicked the bucket?
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want if Whitebeard just dies from health problems.
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead, Whitebeard will be severely weakened and lose the bulk of his forces, thereby weakening the position of the Yonkous. This will leave room for the Rookies to muscle into his territory and still cause chaos without having Whitebeard die.
** The most recent chapter all but confirms that Whitebeard's about done.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed]].
The real purpose behind Ace's Vivre card is to be a more succinct version of the ReallyDeadMontage, to drive the point home that yes, he's dead, and he's not coming back.
* Only problem is that NO ONE in One Piece, besides people in flashbacks and [[spoiler: a beloved ship]], have died. [[WordofGod Oda]] specifically stated that he hates it when people die in stories just to get sympathy from the audience.
** I think an exception can be made though if it's of world shattering, plot-shaking importance, rather than just killing characters to make the villain look more evil, which may be what Oda was referring to. Either way, it would be pretty silly if no named or significant character died in the upcoming battle, given how much it's been hyped up as a world shattering, plot-shaking event.
*** In chapter 573 it[[spoiler: looks like this spec was right on. Ace gets a magma fist through his torso, after it's established, Akainu's magma nulls Ace's fire powers and lets Akainu hurt him, just like Luffy's rubber let him hit Eneru. Luffy looks down and sees the Vivre card burn into almost nothing. We have to wait til chapter 574 to see if that means he'll survive or if this is just a cliffhanger.]]
*** [[spoiler:Bingo. The card burns away when Ace is KilledOffForReal in chapter 574.]]
[[WMG: Whitebeard is screwed.]]
Is ThisTroper the only one who thought "Ominous {{Foreshadowing}}" when Jinbe questioned what would happen if Whitebeard suddenly kicked the bucket?
** In the most recent chapter, Crocodile stated his intentions to take the old man out himself, and Jimbei intends on preventing this. It would be perfect dramatic irony that ''neither'' of them get what they want if Whitebeard just dies from health problems.
** This Troper doubts that Oda will break from his convention and [[KilledOffForReal actually kill one of his characters.]] Instead, Whitebeard will be severely weakened and lose the bulk of his forces, thereby weakening the position of the Yonkous. This will leave room for the Rookies to muscle into his territory and still cause chaos without having Whitebeard die.
** The most recent chapter all but confirms that Whitebeard's about done.
*** [[spoiler: Confirmed]].
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[[WMG: Buggy's plan will fail spectacularly and he'll nearly get himself killed for it, but [[BigDamnHeroes be rescued by his crew at the last minute after they decide to turn back and go get him.]]]]
Because, come on, Buggy's set himself up for a painful fall, and in OP, friendship is always shown to be more important than power and dreams in the grand scheme of things. An event such as this could finally nail the manga's absolute main friggin' point into Buggy's thick, blue-haired skull.
* Well, they didn't save him when he got over his head, but they have indeed rejoined him.
[[WMG: Akainu will have a plant/earth Devil Fruit]]
Akainu has a rose on his suit, has what appears to be a flower tattoo, and has a flower pattern on his shirt. The red in "Red Dog" could be because he specializes in roses.
* Sort of confirmed. Akainu does have an earth-based ability. He's a ''[[spoiler: MagmaMan]]''.
[[WMG: Crocodile's hook is hiding something]]
It looks awfully bulky. A good place to hide something...
* Confirmed - it was revealed in his final fight with Luffy. It turned out to be...[[ShockingSwerve another hook]]. This one was smaller and was filled with venom; Croc only used it as a last resort.
** Yep, it goes from hook to poison hook to hidden blade.
* Ah, but what if all those are to hide the fact that he has something else hidden even further under? Like maybe the fact that he isn't missing a hand at all? Maybe there's an embarressing/important tattoo or something on his left hand, and the easiest way to keep it hidden was to make it look like it doesn't exist.
** Yeah - the base is large enough to hold his hand, that hidden blade and other secret goodies. Also, a hand in there would have prevented the whole thing from snapping off when Luffy stomped on it unless it's fused to Crocodile's wrist bone or something. I say he's hiding the mark of the Tenryuubito in there, that would go well with his trust issues and some of the WMG here.
** Dude is made of sand, and can turn his clothing, cigars and hook into sand as well. He could be holding pretty much anything in his anywhere, just in a sandy form.
[[WMG: Mr. 3 will join Buggy's crew]]
Hey, they seem to get along, and I won't be surprise Buggy gives him an invitation.
* He did.
[[WMG: Shiliewu Will Join Blackbeard]]
Currently, Blackbeard doesn't have a direct counterpart to Zoro. Shiliew seems to be a skilled swordsman and Blackbeard managed to get away from him completely unharmed. It's possible the two men may have came to a agreement.
* And that's exactly what happened. Shiliew has joined the party! * 8-bit jingle*
** Isn't it a great feeling when a WMG becomes true?
*** It's easy to become addicted to the high that produces and make billions of theories at once in hopes that at least one turns out to be accurate.
[[WMG: Luffy's adrenaline will wear off, and he'll have a monster of an adrenaline crash at the WORST TIME POSSIBLE.]]
* Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: When Ace dies, Luffy has to be dragged off by Jinbe, and nearly dies by Akainu]].
Because, come on, Buggy's set himself up for a painful fall, and in OP, friendship is always shown to be more important than power and dreams in the grand scheme of things. An event such as this could finally nail the manga's absolute main friggin' point into Buggy's thick, blue-haired skull.
* Well, they didn't save him when he got over his head, but they have indeed rejoined him.
[[WMG: Akainu will have a plant/earth Devil Fruit]]
Akainu has a rose on his suit, has what appears to be a flower tattoo, and has a flower pattern on his shirt. The red in "Red Dog" could be because he specializes in roses.
* Sort of confirmed. Akainu does have an earth-based ability. He's a ''[[spoiler: MagmaMan]]''.
[[WMG: Crocodile's hook is hiding something]]
It looks awfully bulky. A good place to hide something...
* Confirmed - it was revealed in his final fight with Luffy. It turned out to be...[[ShockingSwerve another hook]]. This one was smaller and was filled with venom; Croc only used it as a last resort.
** Yep, it goes from hook to poison hook to hidden blade.
* Ah, but what if all those are to hide the fact that he has something else hidden even further under? Like maybe the fact that he isn't missing a hand at all? Maybe there's an embarressing/important tattoo or something on his left hand, and the easiest way to keep it hidden was to make it look like it doesn't exist.
** Yeah - the base is large enough to hold his hand, that hidden blade and other secret goodies. Also, a hand in there would have prevented the whole thing from snapping off when Luffy stomped on it unless it's fused to Crocodile's wrist bone or something. I say he's hiding the mark of the Tenryuubito in there, that would go well with his trust issues and some of the WMG here.
** Dude is made of sand, and can turn his clothing, cigars and hook into sand as well. He could be holding pretty much anything in his anywhere, just in a sandy form.
[[WMG: Mr. 3 will join Buggy's crew]]
Hey, they seem to get along, and I won't be surprise Buggy gives him an invitation.
* He did.
[[WMG: Shiliewu Will Join Blackbeard]]
Currently, Blackbeard doesn't have a direct counterpart to Zoro. Shiliew seems to be a skilled swordsman and Blackbeard managed to get away from him completely unharmed. It's possible the two men may have came to a agreement.
* And that's exactly what happened. Shiliew has joined the party! * 8-bit jingle*
** Isn't it a great feeling when a WMG becomes true?
*** It's easy to become addicted to the high that produces and make billions of theories at once in hopes that at least one turns out to be accurate.
[[WMG: Luffy's adrenaline will wear off, and he'll have a monster of an adrenaline crash at the WORST TIME POSSIBLE.]]
* Confirmed, in a way: [[spoiler: When Ace dies, Luffy has to be dragged off by Jinbe, and nearly dies by Akainu]].
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[[WMG: Luffy will faint from the invigorating hormone overdose after the war is over, allowing time for the other Straw Hats to have their stories fleshed out and for them to return to Shabondy.]]
By the time Luffy awakes, he'll be elated that his crew is safe and sound around him, and that the ship is ready to enter Fishman Island.
* In the meantime, none of the crew are going to be sure whether or not he'll ever wake up, but because this is One Piece, they'll hold on to faith that he'll come back to them soon enough. The story at that point will be about the crew's efforts to take care of and protect him, with some deeper character studies on the way as a [[BreatherEpisode Breather Arc]].
** This came true.. Luffy's woken up on Amazon Lilly and is being taken back to the Saobody with Rayleigh, while the rest of the crew is making their way to meet up with him.
*** Not quite. [[spoiler: Seems the other Straw Hats are going to be hanging around right where they are for awhile to TakeALevelInBadAss.]]
[[WMG: Kuma [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed]] himself for Luffy and his crew]].
His disobedience on Shabaody in saving the Straw Hat crew led to a full reprogramming by Vegapunk which essentially "killed" him. He was fully aware of this, but [[SilentScapegoat willingly saved Luffy and his crew]]. This explains why he told Luffy before sending him flying with his DF powers that this would be the last time they saw each other, despite Luffy coming to Marineford. This also explains why [[spoiler: Doflamingo proclaimed that the Kuma that Ivankov knew is dead]].
* Its seems you were right on the money, at least where the [[spoiler: reprogramming is concerned]].
** Almost. [[spoiler: Kuma was going to be reprogrammed either way. He had a feeling that the Straw Hats were going to be a major force later and wanted to help them out while he still could.]]
*** Which would explain why [[spoiler:he made a deal with Vegapunk to delay the cyber-fication until he could program an instruction in one of the Pacifistas to guard the Thousand Sunny till at least one of the Straw Hats returned.]]
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