History WMG / NarutoOpenTwo

A man who happily boasts about destroying the peace between villages clearly isn't interested in a world of peace. He only wants power and just said otherwise to manipulate Obito. So it's not unreasonable to think he had Rin killed to further this goal. Once he has the power of the infinite Tsukuyomi he will betray Obito without hesitation.

** Now I'm not saying that Nagato and Sasuke didn't go through far worse, I'm just saying that Rin wasn't the only true reason for his start to evil. In my belief, Nagato wasn't truly evil to begin with. Plus to add to the above WMG, Obito has definitely suffered from heavy brain damage.

* If the situation was engineered, isn't that WeCouldHaveAvoidedAllThis?

Because Sasuke is just too stuborn to let the dead bury their dead, he will deliberately provoke a fight he can't possibly win just to do as much damage as possible. With all of his former allies dead, incapacitated or [[HeelFaceTurn having betrayed him,]] he opts to unleash all of his power to attack Konoha. For Naruto, the matter is personal- [[GenerationXerox protecting his wife and baby]] [[BookEnds from the Uchiha.]] Naruto intercepts Sasuke in the wilderness, knowing that the powers that will clash in this battle will cause [[FantasticNuke extreme devastation were they to be unleashed in a populated area.]] Mutually Assured Destruction ensues, as Naruto [[HeroicSacrifice lays down his life to eliminate the last remaining threat to his family and to world peace.]] Immediately before the clash, Naruto will lament at [[WeCouldHaveAvoidedAllThis how none of this would be necessary if Sasuke could just get over himself,]] and then he'll smile, [[BitterSweetEnding telling Sasuke he has no regrets because he now has a real family, and that he loves them enough to protect them with his life.]]

* Except that Sasuke and Nagato went through far worse at even younger ages, including losing their entire families when they were children and thousands of comrades over the course of their lives in the process, and still seem to have handled their situations better in the end. Obito loses one crush and he wants to hypnotize the world. If Nagato's heel face turn is any indication, Obito will be right back on the side of good as soon as he hears the "without free will, there is no life" speech from either Naruto or Kakashi, bringing his contrived turn to evil full circle.

[[WMG: Rin is an Inuzuka]]
I'm just guessing by the marks on her face.

Let's face it, [[LoveMakesYouCrazy love makes you crazy]], but one can't help but feel that Rin definitely isn't the only reason Obito beame the way he is now. He consciously thinks she is the reason why, but there are several subconscious factors that come into play. He spent a huge amount of time basically being held captive by Madara (He couldn't have left in his current condition if he even wanted). Madara not only saved his life, but also took care of him. This all mixes together to sound like a case of Stockholm Syndrome. And if he feels compassion for his caretaker, he would of course pick up some of his beliefs along the way. There is also the fact that he saw his best friend kill the girl he was in love with, that really screws with someone's sanity more than just having a loved one die any other way. Then there is also the temptation. Who wouldn't want to live in a perfect world? A world with no fighting, no death, etc. Obito experienced a whole hell of a lot at such a young age, a lot of it bad. He probably grew jaded and desperate enough to not care whether this world was real or not. So he began working towards the illusion instead of how Naruto, Minato, Jiraiya, etc. went about it by actually trying to change the world.

* That makes sense, but wars and such have been started over less than that. Half of his body, which includes his head, was crushed by a giant boulder. So yes, his brain was damaged majorly. How he is still alive and how his personality remained the same for the longest time afterwards is a mystery. Maybe part of his brain was regenerated somehow.

It's the only way to explain all the idiotic decisions he made that led him to become Tobi, especially how he decided to hypnotize the entire world because of the death of one girl. Seriously, look at any other Naruto villain in the manga and they have a more consistent backstory reason for why they're evil.

* I don't really see much that Sasuke has done which is truly beyond redemption. Now, his stated goals are pretty bad and I'll admit, [[spoiler: putting that blade through Karin to get at Danzo was pretty evil]], but other than that he's done what? He kicked Naruto's ass, then time skip, then kicked Naruto's ass again, and then he's killed Danzo while potentially being misled by Madara. Really, all he's done is demonstrate a willingness to abandon his teammates [[spoiler: plus the Karin thing]], which, while reprehensible, [[CompleteMonster doesn't quite put him into the realm of being completely gone]]. I don't think Sasuke's going to go this route since he's probably going to be crossing the MoralEventHorizon soon, but I don't think he's there yet.

It would explain [[UnreliableNarrator some]] [[CompleteMonster of]] [[MoralEventHorizon his]] [[{{Keet}} behaviour]].

Kishi has previously mentioned that Itachi is basically his attempt at writing God as a human, and with Naruto being [[TheMessia The Messiah]] and whatnot, where does this put Sasuke? As a foil to both of them in some certain aspects, does this make Sasuke Satan? Though the manga has never leaned towards any kind of religion (other than Narutoism), writing God does tend to mean you have to have some kind of opposite, i.e. the Devil. Although Pein mirrored what Naruto could have become if things were different, he was at least [[HeroicSacrifice repentant]] in the [[RedemptionEqualsDeath end]], but we have seen zero remorse from Sasuke about pretty much everything, and he's starting to look more and more [[CompleteMonster completely evil]] as the story progresses. As Naruto's opposite pretty much from day one, this makes Sasuke Satan to Naruto's Jesus.

Madara was on the verge of death when he got his new eyes... but when it's comes to sudden power upgrade you can count on Sasuke.

***** Except the Juubi's body is unimprtatnt, Madara is only intersted in the chakra.

We wee that Kakashi and Obito developed the Mangekyo at the same time in chapter 605 after severe mental anguish. People react very differently to stress and trauma. Before we saw that Sasuke had actually activated his sharingan on the night that Itachi killed the rest of the clan and merely forgot about it because the memory of it was suppressed by the trauma he experienced. Who is to say that the same couldn't have happened to Kakashi for the Mangekyo? Obito reacts by losing his mind and becoming what he is in the current setting, while Kakashi probably suppressed the memory unintentionally.

[[WMG: The combination of Uzumaki (or Senju) and Uchiha bloodlines have a better chance of producing Rinnegan]]

And the whole time he was trying to keep it from killing him before his business on Earth was finished.

* Kakashi has come back from the dead more than once.

* Didn't Kakashi already die in the Pain Arc.

[[WMG: The combination of Uzumaki (or Senju) and Uchiha bloodlines have a better chance of producing Rinnegan]]

Because why the Hell not; everybody else seems to be lately. And it would explain why the Mist nin seemed interested in recovering her corpse.

If you think about it, Rin did seem to show a particular susceptibility to genjutsu. When she was captured in the Gaiden chapter she was put under a genjutsu during an interrogation. She didn't crack, but that doesn't mean that it didn't work very well. She resisted through will power alone. The genjutsu used on her was meant to make her tell the truth, but it wasn't explained how it planned to do so. We've seen damaging genjutsu that remove a person's resolve through illusions. She resisted the interrogation, but that doesn't mean she didn't feel the full effects of the illusions. This being said, she was probably under a genjutsu when Kakashi killed her and he couldn't snap her out of it for some reason and it was the only way. Another possibility was that Kakashi could have been the one under the genjutsu. The sharingan only helps identify if someone else is under a genjutsu or recognize that they are under a genjutsu themselves. There is no immunity. Kakashi probably knew he was under an illusion, but that doesn't mean he could do anything about it like break free. A final option would be that both were under a genjutsu and forced to fight each other.

No reason I just think so

Naruto wishes for a normal life, so the RTN world takes away his bijuu and his name, though it does give him his parents.

** That or it's a MercyKill.