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10th Jul '17 6:57:36 PM RoarkTenjouin
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The notion that humans would evolve into Newtypes by moving into space is thoroughly
disputed, and even outright dismissed by Tomino. Besides this, we see quite a few Earth-born Newtypes. If one looks at ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', we see Newtypes whose powers are triggered by near-death experiences, as well as [[spoiler:D.O.M.E. declaring that they are not evolved humans but rather mutants.]] This would also explain why people with abilities like mental communication (the Frost brothers) and healing powers (Queen Maria) are considered Newtypes even when they don't match up with the usual set of powers that a majority of Newtypes possess.

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The notion that humans would evolve into Newtypes by moving into space is thoroughly
thoroughly disputed, and even outright dismissed by Tomino. Besides this, we see quite a few Earth-born Newtypes. If one looks at ''[[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Gundam X]]'', we see Newtypes whose powers are triggered by near-death experiences, as well as [[spoiler:D.O.M.E. declaring that they are not evolved humans but rather mutants.]] This would also explain why people with abilities like mental communication (the Frost brothers) and healing powers (Queen Maria) are considered Newtypes even when they don't match up with the usual set of powers that a majority of Newtypes possess.




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* As noted below, jossed.




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*** Considering that Dozle had at least one mistress, not to mention that we never learn anything about Judau's parents, this is entirely possible. Although this would make it somewhat amusing that Haman is so focused on Mineva when someone she already loves in a romantic sense would be able to accomplish the same tasks she would need Mineva to do.



[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon lost.]]

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[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon Zeon lost.]]




[[WMG:Project v would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]

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\n[[WMG:Project v ** A contributing factor, yes, but not the only reason - there was so much infighting in Zeon that none of the factions helped each other out (for example, Ramba Ral wanted Rick Doms when he was trying to capture White Base, but M'Queve turned down his request; the Gelgoog, Char's preferred suit, wasn't adopted until it was too late to make a difference, something that if there was a clear chain of command, wouldn't have happened) - really, if Zeon hadn't attacked Project V, the Feds could've just put in the minimum amount of effort and Zeon would've collapsed under it's own weight.

[[WMG: Project V
would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]
9th Jul '17 3:37:43 PM nombretomado
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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do.

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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do.
25th Aug '16 8:31:23 AM Nitramy
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'Cause I'm all about White Base, 'bout White Base.
* No Zaku!
23rd Jul '16 10:05:23 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with [[GenreSavvy people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do]].

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Char is Gundam's counterpart the counterpart to the Red Baron not just in the colour of the vehicle and fame, but also in ''[[WroteTheBook writing the book on how you fight with said vehicle]]''. Thus, just like every fighter pilot of WorldWarII and beyond still uses all of Richtofen's tricks (and a few more due the invention of the guided missile), by the following conflicts Char had to deal with [[GenreSavvy people who had read his book and could predict what he'd do]].
do.
30th Mar '16 2:52:01 PM SSJMagus
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** It was. Mass-produced units were deployed against White Base (Allowing Amuro to rake up a healthy number of kills there) and later participated in the Jaburo offensive. The problem was that Gouf was a ground-combat-based design and after Jaburo the Zeon retreated back into space.
** The other thing about the Gouf is that it was significantly more expensive to produce than a Zaku, so it was reserved for experienced pilots, such as Norris Packard and Ramba Ral.

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** * It was. Mass-produced units were deployed against White Base (Allowing Amuro to rake up a healthy number of kills there) and later participated in the Jaburo offensive. The problem was that Gouf was a ground-combat-based design and after Jaburo the Zeon retreated back into space.
** * The other thing about the Gouf is that it was significantly more expensive to produce than a Zaku, so it was reserved for experienced pilots, such as Norris Packard and Ramba Ral.
* There's also the fact that mobile suit design was progressing incredibly quickly at this point. It wasn't long before the Gouf was replaced in production by the Dom.
19th Dec '15 10:08:45 PM nombretomado
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Remember Ryu, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka [[Creator/ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka [[Creator/ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...
20th Aug '15 8:27:47 AM 43110
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[[WMG:Jossed Theories]]
After ''Kunio Okawara's MS Collection'' revealed that the children were taken in by the Murasame Lab it was generally assumed, based on Gil's number and his role as test pilot of the Psycho Gundam's immediate predecessor that Millie had grown up to be Four Murasame, but according to ''Four's Story'' Four is a different war orphan and Millie is dead.
1st Aug '15 4:27:31 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Miharu's little sister grows up to be [[ZetaGundam Four Murasame]].]]

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[[WMG:Miharu's little sister grows up to be [[ZetaGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Four Murasame]].]]



Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...



[[GundamSEEDDestiny This is no]] ShoutOut, boy!

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[[GundamSEEDDestiny [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny This is no]] ShoutOut, boy!



[[{{Gundam 00}} This is no Flag]], [[{{ShoutOut}} boy]]!

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[[{{Gundam 00}} [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 This is no Flag]], [[{{ShoutOut}} boy]]!
17th Jun '15 12:21:10 AM StFan
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Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[GundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...

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Remember Ryu, [[MobileSuitGundam one of Amuro's crewmates on White Base]], who sacrificed himself to save Amuro's life? Remember how well-built he was, and [[ShozoIizuka the sound of his voice]]? Now, take a look at [[GundamMSIGLOO [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamMSIGLOO Captain Martin Prochnow of the Jotunheim]]. [[LargeAndInCharge Well-built guy]], and a [[ShozoIizuka rather unique voice as well]]. It can't be a coincidence. Maybe Ryu was born on Side 3, but his mother had a falling out with his father and took him to Earth, where he lived under his mother's name, Jose. Then he later joined the Federation, signing up just before the One Year War began. Were Martin to know about the fate of his son...
16th May '15 5:26:10 PM thatonebatman
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----[[WMG: Char is the reason zeon lost.]]
Ace pilot or not Char actively sabotaged the Zeon war effort because of his grudge against the Zabi family.
*He lead Garma into a trap, depriving earth-side forces of their chief commander.
*He abandoned the battlefield following Lalah's death.
*Instead of targeting the battleship he seeks out Gundam.
*Kills the fleeing Kycillia who would've refused to give up.
It's pretty clear to this troper that the war failed becuse of Char's grudge.

[[WMG:Project v would've failed without Zeon's attack.]]
Pretty much what it says on the tin. The reason why though? without the Zeon attack who knows who would be piloting those Mobile suits. Certainly not Amuro and friends. I'd go as far as to say that White base would've been sunk on it's first sortie against the enemy.

[[WMG:If more of project V's MS had survived...]]
Gundam is the top of it's class for it's era right? well according to the wiki there RX-78-2 was to be deployed with three of it's prototypes RX-78-1, and they were only slightly less powerful versions that used all the same technology.
If Amuro had been backed up by some extra Gundams a lot of good people on the federation side would probably be alive. Those good people might be enough to make sure The titans never form or that the incident of Stardust memory never happens. I hardly think it could be worse for White Base to have had more suits to use.

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