History WMG / MetalGearSolid

27th Jan '16 3:43:19 PM Kadorhal
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[[WMG: Psycho Mantis's brain broke when he tried to read {{Deadpool}}'s mind.]]

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[[WMG: Psycho Mantis's brain broke when he tried to read {{Deadpool}}'s SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'s mind.]]



To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.

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To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.him.
* Similarly, this is the reason for a change in Psycho Mantis' final words. In the original dubbed version of ''MGS'', he said that using his powers to help someone "feels kind of nice", while in the original Japanese version, and in ''TTS'', he remarks on "such a nostalgic feeling". Sure, it could just be a more accurate translation of the original line... but given he's demonstrated that the fourth wall is no more hindering to him than it is to Snake, it could also be him commenting on the entire series of events, being vaguely aware that, yes, everything he just did [[VideoGameRemake has happened before]].
19th Oct '15 4:47:47 PM ThatCrazyGuy
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* [[spoiler: Considering Phantom Pain, it could've been Venom Snake that she met.]]
27th Sep '15 11:37:55 PM stro
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* Technically, this is accurate.



To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.

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To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.
27th Sep '15 11:36:56 PM stro
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* The events of MGSV make this highly unlikely. For a multitude of reasons. Number one being that Miller's age by the time of MGS would be around 60. That doesn't even take into consideration the story elements of PW-V that would make this nearly impossible.
15th Sep '15 6:33:13 AM enigmaticwonder
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* Jossed, MGSV reveals his real name to be Eli.
15th Sep '15 3:28:07 AM zacheus
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[[WMG: The Twin Snakes takes place in the Revengeance universe.]]
Twin Snakes and Revengeance take place in a side universe, one in which the broad strokes of the Metal Gear story still happen, but in a more crazy awesome way.
24th Jul '15 6:20:10 PM nombretomado
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Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''MetalGearSolid3'' was released.

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Because the idea of Snake assuming any soldier in any conflict after World War II who gained a nickname is actually Big Boss was just way too amusing to me. Especially since this series has NoFourthWall and the Shadow Moses Incident chronologically takes place after ''MetalGearSolid3'' ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' was released.
22nd Feb '15 7:30:54 PM Kadorhal
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Which probably saved her life. She's an attractive, sympathetic single female, the age difference between her and Otacon probably is no greater than that between Snake and Meryl, and [[PairTheSmartOnes they have some things in common]]. Considering how affection-starved [=MGS 1=]-era Otacon is, it's not unlikely that he'd develop some kind of feelings for her, and [[CartwrightCurse we know what that means]]. If Hal had any hope of Mei Ling requiting any affection sent her way, the poor girl'd be hurtling fridgeward.

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Which probably saved her life. She's an attractive, sympathetic single female, the age difference between her and Otacon probably is no greater than that between Snake and Meryl, and [[PairTheSmartOnes they have some things in common]]. Considering how affection-starved [=MGS 1=]-era [=MGS1=]-era Otacon is, it's not unlikely that he'd develop some kind of feelings for her, and [[CartwrightCurse we know what that means]]. If Hal had any hope of Mei Ling requiting any affection sent her way, the poor girl'd be hurtling fridgeward.


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[[WMG: Gray Fox's new actor in ''The Twin Snakes'' was a deliberate artistic decision.]]

To quote the BehindTheBlack article: "In ''Metal Gear Solid'', [Snake] can't identify the voice of his ''best friend'', due to this being the first game in which Fox had a voice actor." Considering the sheer amount of fourth-wall destruction that goes on in this series, it only makes sense that [[TheOtherDarrin Fox's voice would be different for the remake]] - Snake ''would'' have recognized it if it hadn't changed completely, and they didn't want to change the story as much as would be required if Snake caught on to "Deepthroat"'s real identity as soon as he first contacted him.
9th Jan '15 11:10:18 AM kmj10
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The whole thing was a prelude to the experiments with Raiden, an examination of nature v. nurture. Two clones of Big Boss were created, and raised according to different specifications. One, Solid, was raised as a normal human being, which in fact he was. The other, Liquid, was tweaked at the genetic level to be superior to Solid in all ways -- but raised under the impression that he was the inferior one. When the two were pitted against each other, that belief cost him victory -- thus proving to the Patriots that the genes one is born with are not as important [[Main/RichardDawkinsWasRight as the memes one is exposed to]]. It was that datum that freed them from the necessity of using Big Boss's genetic material as the basis for their homegrown super soldiers, thus allowing them to use preexisting child soldiers like Raiden in their next experiment...

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The whole thing was a prelude to the experiments with Raiden, an examination of nature v. nurture. Two clones of Big Boss were created, and raised according to different specifications. One, Solid, was raised as a normal human being, which in fact he was. The other, Liquid, was tweaked at the genetic level to be superior to Solid in all ways -- but raised under the impression that he was the inferior one. When the two were pitted against each other, that belief cost him victory -- thus proving to the Patriots that the genes one is born with are not as important [[Main/RichardDawkinsWasRight as the memes one is exposed to]].to. It was that datum that freed them from the necessity of using Big Boss's genetic material as the basis for their homegrown super soldiers, thus allowing them to use preexisting child soldiers like Raiden in their next experiment...
31st Oct '14 10:29:10 PM LukefromNJ
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* Yet another theory: The original is the real version of the Shadow Moses incident, while "The Twin Snakes" is a dramatization of the incident as adapted into a mainstream action film (the more over-the-top cutscenes of bullet dodging, doing a backflip off of a missile in flight, the fight with the Ninja in the first encounter, the 3-on-1 fight with the soldiers after the battle with Sniper Wolf, and so on can be explained by those scenes being directed by John Woo or the Wachowskis. Mei Ling loses her accent in the adaptation because the filmmakers are worried audiences wouldn't be able to understand her.

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* Yet another theory:
[[WMG:The Twin Snakes is really ''Metal Gear Solid: The Movie'']]
The original is game depicts the real version of what happened during the Shadow Moses incident, while "The Twin Snakes" is a dramatization of the incident as adapted into a mainstream action film (the more over-the-top cutscenes of bullet dodging, doing a backflip off of a missile in flight, the fight with the Ninja in the first encounter, the 3-on-1 fight with the soldiers after the battle with Sniper Wolf, and so on can be explained by those scenes being directed by a director like John Woo or the Wachowskis. Wachowskis). Mei Ling spoke with an accent originally, but loses her accent in the adaptation because the filmmakers are worried that audiences wouldn't be able to understand her.
her (or her actress just couldn't do a convincing Chinese accent without sounding like a stereotypical caricature).
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