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* Yes, please.
[[WMG: The Ace Program was once part of Acid]].
Both the Ace and Joker programs were developed from technology that Ace stole from Dealer after defecting to WAZA. The Satella Police developed the Joker program, while the Ace program was unique... because Eos removed it from Acid's code. ''That's'' why Acid can't use Noise (and trying to do so results in Acid Ace B, who is set to CrushKillDestroy), because the essential program was removed. Ace ''fears'' Noise and knows it has [[TheCorruption harmful effects]], so he removes it to protect others from himself, and besides that, he's ''TheAce'', so he shouldn't need it anyway. He gives it to Geo to initially to enable him to fight against Dealer.
By the same token, this is why Eos can't remain in Acid Ace form for extended periods of time. Because Acid no longer has access to Noise (especially the Meteor Server), he uses Ace's body as a PowerSource and uses the Secret Satellite Server instead (Level 25 is reserved for Acid Ace), but since Acid is meant to work with a huge amount of energy (he's artificial and doesn't have it naturally), it's a major tax on Eos' body. When the Ace program is restored, he's able to ascend to Acid Ace BB form. (Note the clear similarities between Acid Ace's B forms and Mega Man Black Ace).
[[WMG: The Joker Program serves as the control program for Joker]].
While the Ace program is specified to be Eos' creation, the Joker program is said to have been developed by the Satella Police. Joker is capable of EM Wave Change on his own (and therefore it's implied that Ace should be, too, but his essential program was removed, and he needs to integrate Eos' body as a power source to compensate).
Now, there are two options here. There are no copies of the Ace Program because Eos thought it too powerful to duplicate heedlessly after removing it from Acid, but either the Satella Police developed a copy of the Joker Program because they found the Noise-mitigating abilities useful, or they extracted the program from Joker for the same reasons that Eos removed it from Acid. If the first case, then Joker merely left WAZA because the whole No Unnecessary Violence thing was really cramping his style; but if it's the second case then Joker may have been drawn to King in part because the latter had the ability to recreate his stolen program. In either case, he gets to Finalize after joining up with Dealer. (Compare Dread Joker and Red Joker).
[[WMG: The Ace Program was once part of Acid]].
Both the Ace and Joker programs were developed from technology that Ace stole from Dealer after defecting to WAZA. The Satella Police developed the Joker program, while the Ace program was unique... because Eos removed it from Acid's code. ''That's'' why Acid can't use Noise (and trying to do so results in Acid Ace B, who is set to CrushKillDestroy), because the essential program was removed. Ace ''fears'' Noise and knows it has [[TheCorruption harmful effects]], so he removes it to protect others from himself, and besides that, he's ''TheAce'', so he shouldn't need it anyway. He gives it to Geo to initially to enable him to fight against Dealer.
By the same token, this is why Eos can't remain in Acid Ace form for extended periods of time. Because Acid no longer has access to Noise (especially the Meteor Server), he uses Ace's body as a PowerSource and uses the Secret Satellite Server instead (Level 25 is reserved for Acid Ace), but since Acid is meant to work with a huge amount of energy (he's artificial and doesn't have it naturally), it's a major tax on Eos' body. When the Ace program is restored, he's able to ascend to Acid Ace BB form. (Note the clear similarities between Acid Ace's B forms and Mega Man Black Ace).
[[WMG: The Joker Program serves as the control program for Joker]].
While the Ace program is specified to be Eos' creation, the Joker program is said to have been developed by the Satella Police. Joker is capable of EM Wave Change on his own (and therefore it's implied that Ace should be, too, but his essential program was removed, and he needs to integrate Eos' body as a power source to compensate).
Now, there are two options here. There are no copies of the Ace Program because Eos thought it too powerful to duplicate heedlessly after removing it from Acid, but either the Satella Police developed a copy of the Joker Program because they found the Noise-mitigating abilities useful, or they extracted the program from Joker for the same reasons that Eos removed it from Acid. If the first case, then Joker merely left WAZA because the whole No Unnecessary Violence thing was really cramping his style; but if it's the second case then Joker may have been drawn to King in part because the latter had the ability to recreate his stolen program. In either case, he gets to Finalize after joining up with Dealer. (Compare Dread Joker and Red Joker).
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[[WMG: Alternate Theory: Geo and Sonia are both descended from Lan.]]
But at least they're distantly related enough that the KissingCousins aspect isn't squicky.
But at least they're distantly related enough that the KissingCousins aspect isn't squicky.
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** I object with the fact that while he may not be like Lan, he's a LOT like, well, Mega Man. Considering that Mega Man is Lan's brother, this STILL allows Geo to be Lan's descendant. Not only that, Geo is actually the Mega Man of this era, so this adds another layer of likeness. And come on. Compare Geo and Mega Man without his helmet. Both of them have spiky brown hair!
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[[WMG: Dr. Vega will appear in Star Force 4]]
She will be arrested by [=WAZA=] for her attempted actions with Mu, and they will take the opportunity to [[OutsideContextVillain finally compare notes.]] Solo will likewise be arrested for continually trying to kill Geo for the Mu metal. One of the two will end up as the ruler of the legions of [=UMA=] created during the endgame of 2 which were never actually killed.
[[WMG: Future material will finally clarify how Solo can be the last survivor of Mu in the games.]]
She will be arrested by [=WAZA=] for her attempted actions with Mu, and they will take the opportunity to [[OutsideContextVillain finally compare notes.]] Solo will likewise be arrested for continually trying to kill Geo for the Mu metal. One of the two will end up as the ruler of the legions of [=UMA=] created during the endgame of 2 which were never actually killed.
[[WMG: Future material will finally clarify how Solo can be the last survivor of Mu in the games.]]
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[[WMG: Geo isn't Lan's descendant; but someone else most certainly is.]]
But Sonia, however is. Just think about it. In fiction, there is a tendency for characters to inherit not only their ancestors' physical traits, but their personality traits as well. With this reasoning, consider that Geo bears a resemblance to neither Lan nor Mayl, not only in terms of looks, but in terms of his initially surly and standoffish nature. Sonia, however, not only looks more than a little like Mayl, but has an energetic and caring personality like the latter. The more brash elements of her personality could easily be attributes to Lan.
But Sonia, however is. Just think about it. In fiction, there is a tendency for characters to inherit not only their ancestors' physical traits, but their personality traits as well. With this reasoning, consider that Geo bears a resemblance to neither Lan nor Mayl, not only in terms of looks, but in terms of his initially surly and standoffish nature. Sonia, however, not only looks more than a little like Mayl, but has an energetic and caring personality like the latter. The more brash elements of her personality could easily be attributes to Lan.
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[[WMG: Star Force contains a ShoutOut to NeonGenesisEvangelion.]]
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* Considering that according to Lan's diary in the 2nd game [[spoiler: HE'S the one responsible for the Brotherband feature, basing it off of his and Hub's Full Synchro ability]], this makes a ton of sense.
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He can be seen sitting on what seems to be an EM Wave at least once while untransformed, he teleports with Gemini after being knocked out of his Gemini Spark form, he's capable of following fights between FM Beings despite not having any technological assistance and he was affected by the comet's EM Waves unlike every other human characters. This is what Gemini meant when he said that Tsukasa had been revived as an "existence far superior to normal humans" after the car crash where they first met.
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[[WMG:Tsukasa/Pat (anime version) is closer to being an FM Being than a human, even without fusing with Gemini.]]
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He can be seen sitting on an EM Wave at least once while untransformed, teleports with Gemini after being knocked out of his Gemini Spark form and he's capable of following fights between FM Beings despite not having any technological assistance. This is what Gemini meant when he said that Tsukasa had been revived as an "existence far superior to normal humans" after the car crash where they first met.
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[[WMG:Tsukasa/Pat (anime version) is closer close to being an FM Being than a human, Being, even without fusing with Gemini.]]
He can be seen sitting on an EM Wave at least once while untransformed, teleports with Gemini after being knocked out of his Gemini Sparkform and form, he's capable of following fights between FM Beings despite not having any technological assistance.assistance and he was affected by the comet's EM Waves unlike every other human characters. This is what Gemini meant when he said that Tsukasa had been revived as an "existence far superior to normal humans" after the car crash where they first met.
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So let's see, Zero/Luna is 'killed' during an altercation with Sigma/Mr.King's dragon Vile/Joker. But it turns out they're blown into four/six pieces, three of which you have to recover from the QuirkyMinibossSquad/Mooks, but before you can restore them, you have to deal with Sigma/Dealer attacking a vital base. There's only a few differences(like the circumstances of their death, Zero's being a HeroicSacrifice while Luna was just blasted away after tossing around the IdiotBall with Geo), and in the end, both emerge as if nothing had ever happened. (As far as we know, anyway.) They even have long, blonde hair. (Though Luna's is in OjouRinglets)
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So let's see, Zero/Luna is 'killed' during an altercation with Sigma/Mr.King's dragon Vile/Joker. But it turns out they're blown into four/six pieces, three of which you have to recover from the QuirkyMinibossSquad/Mooks, but before you can restore them, you have to deal with Sigma/Dealer attacking a vital base. There's only a few differences(like the circumstances of their death, Zero's being a HeroicSacrifice while Luna was just blasted away after tossing around the IdiotBall with Geo), and in the end, both emerge as if nothing had ever happened. (As far as we know, anyway.) They even have long, blonde hair. (Though Luna's is in OjouRinglets)
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So let's see, Zero/Luna is 'killed' during an altercation with Sigma/Mr.King's dragon Vile/Joker. But it turns out they're blown into four/six pieces, three of which you have to recover from the QuirkyMinibossSquad/Mooks, but before you can restore them, you have to deal with Sigma/Dealer attacking a vital base. There's only a few differences(like the circumstances of their death, Zero's being a HeroicSacrifice while Luna was just blasted away after tossing around the IdiotBall with Geo), and in the end, both emerge as if nothing had ever happened. (As far as we know, anyway.) They even have long, blonde hair. (Though Luna's is in PrincessCurls)
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[[WMG: Misora/Sonia is the Star Force counterpart to both Meiru/Mayl and Enzan/Chaud]]
Like Meiru, she's the 'main love interest', has red hair, and an affinity for music. However, like Enzan, she's the co-hero of the games and often jumps in to save Subaru when he needs it, whereas Meiru only ever needed saving. In addition to that, while she is far more upbeat that Enzan she definitely is more melancholy and much more unfortunate than Meiru, and has the whole 'super-talented, lack of communication with parents' thing going on. As a bonus, Harp Note almost always comes in on a guitar wail, a musical entrance that is reminiscent of Classic Blues's whistle.
Like Meiru, she's the 'main love interest', has red hair, and an affinity for music. However, like Enzan, she's the co-hero of the games and often jumps in to save Subaru when he needs it, whereas Meiru only ever needed saving. In addition to that, while she is far more upbeat that Enzan she definitely is more melancholy and much more unfortunate than Meiru, and has the whole 'super-talented, lack of communication with parents' thing going on. As a bonus, Harp Note almost always comes in on a guitar wail, a musical entrance that is reminiscent of Classic Blues's whistle.
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[[WMG: Solo/Rogue is the Star Force counterpart to Protoman.]]
Like Protoman.exe, Rogue wears primarily black and red, with the addition of long white hair and purple "energy." Like the original Protoman, he's introduced as a villain, but in the same game [[spoiler:saves Mega Man at the end]]; he has a few odd similarities to Mega Man that aren't explained by the story (Protoman has a weapon copy system, Rogue has one normal hand and one weird hand that has flames coming out the back of it); and he has an aloof, independent personality. Like cartoon Protoman, he's a big jerk. And like all three, he wears sunglasses.
* Uh, half-confirmed since the character was announced. The initial press release states unambiguously "Blues + Forte = Burai" (Burai being Rogue's Japanese name of course). Following from that, I've noticed that a lot of characters, rather than being straight ports of EXE characters, are mixes; see below for the WMG of Harp Note being a combination of Blues and Roll, and add in Luna = Mayl/Yai and Zack being, uh, most of the remainder of Yai, I guess. Gonta/Dex is pretty much a straight port though.
[[WMG: Star Force contains a ShoutOut to NeonGenesisEvangelion.]]
Am I the only one who thinks that the Gemini Spark chapter is a milder version of the Kaworu episode in Evangelion? Like Shinji, Geo has the fate of the world forced onto his shoulders, and he isn't taking it all that well. Enter Pat, the creepy shouta/Bishonen who reaches out to him and Geo believes that he is the one who can truly understand him. Fluffiness and HoYay ensue. But wait! Pat's the enemy after all! Geo is shocked at the betrayal and reluctantly fights and defeats Gemini Spark. While he obviously doesn't kill him, Geo is still sent into a state of depression and {{Wangst}} afterwards over this.
* Equally obvious is the short-lived nature of it. I mean, neither Luna nor Sonia are [[EmotionlessGirl teh Rei]], right?
Like Protoman.exe, Rogue wears primarily black and red, with the addition of long white hair and purple "energy." Like the original Protoman, he's introduced as a villain, but in the same game [[spoiler:saves Mega Man at the end]]; he has a few odd similarities to Mega Man that aren't explained by the story (Protoman has a weapon copy system, Rogue has one normal hand and one weird hand that has flames coming out the back of it); and he has an aloof, independent personality. Like cartoon Protoman, he's a big jerk. And like all three, he wears sunglasses.
* Uh, half-confirmed since the character was announced. The initial press release states unambiguously "Blues + Forte = Burai" (Burai being Rogue's Japanese name of course). Following from that, I've noticed that a lot of characters, rather than being straight ports of EXE characters, are mixes; see below for the WMG of Harp Note being a combination of Blues and Roll, and add in Luna = Mayl/Yai and Zack being, uh, most of the remainder of Yai, I guess. Gonta/Dex is pretty much a straight port though.
[[WMG: Star Force contains a ShoutOut to NeonGenesisEvangelion.]]
Am I the only one who thinks that the Gemini Spark chapter is a milder version of the Kaworu episode in Evangelion? Like Shinji, Geo has the fate of the world forced onto his shoulders, and he isn't taking it all that well. Enter Pat, the creepy shouta/Bishonen who reaches out to him and Geo believes that he is the one who can truly understand him. Fluffiness and HoYay ensue. But wait! Pat's the enemy after all! Geo is shocked at the betrayal and reluctantly fights and defeats Gemini Spark. While he obviously doesn't kill him, Geo is still sent into a state of depression and {{Wangst}} afterwards over this.
* Equally obvious is the short-lived nature of it. I mean, neither Luna nor Sonia are [[EmotionlessGirl teh Rei]], right?
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** Wait, how is Antares Sirius' big brother? i figured it would be Canis (as in VY Canis Majoris).
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** Wait, how is Antares Sirius' big brother? i I figured it would be Canis (as in VY Canis Majoris).
*** Antares and Sirius are the dog-star guardians of either end of the Path of Souls, according to the Cherokee.
*** Antares and Sirius are the dog-star guardians of either end of the Path of Souls, according to the Cherokee.
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[[WMG: There are two types of developed Noise: Crimson, which is used for power, and Sable, which is used for information gathering and maintenance.]]
Crimson has data storage capacities, but is primarily notable for its use as a power source, and occurs naturally if Noise is left to coagulate on its own. Sable, by comparison, is altered through a deliberate process, ''a la'' a refinery, and is used primarily for purposes of data storage and maintenance. The Black Hole Server is simply a vast Sable structure.
[[WMG: Joker was adapted from Ace Program, but defected in search of his purpose. Dr. Goodall, who designed him, gave a copy of his program to Ace.]]
Ace is credited with personally developing the Ace program, which he really adopted from programs he took out of Ace. Dr. Goodall took the Ace Program, made a modified copy and built Joker around it. Joker defected, and Dr. Goodall made a copy of that second program just in case. The missing Ace Program is what causes Acid Ace B to go CrushKillDestroy, because the lack of control mechanism reduces Acid to an ordinary Wizard in Noise's presence. The OneGameForThePriceOfTwo is largely dependent on which program Ace left on his desk.
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#And finally, the most damning evidence of all: He does not take an active role in the story, dispite despite being one of the more powerful aliens. Clearly, he has [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other matters to attend to]].
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[[WMG: Aaron Boreal is Mamoru Ura.]]
Somehow, Mamoru found himself a way to time-travel into the future (a [[strike: time machine]] Time Skimmer, perhaps?), where he discovered that—to his shock—his HBD could be cured. Upon meeting Kevin Stelar, the descendant of Lan, he befriended him, remembering the boy who had long ago encouraged him and who later helped save the world. And then, when Kevin disappeared, he vowed to help Geo—who reminded him of long-ago Lan, in his youth and innocence—save his father.
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Think about it, why would two teenage boys look exactly the same and be repesenting the same zodiac sign (Taurus) if they weren't related. Here's some pictures first[[http://images.wikia.com/beyblade/images/a/a3/Benkei1.jpg Benkei]] and then [[http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/e/ec/Bud_Bison.jpg Bud]]
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[[WMG: If there is going to be a fourth game, it is going to be focus on the Net Navis in the year 22XX or at least have a more important role.]]]
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[[WMG: Benkei from [[MetalFightBeyblade Beyblade Metal Fusion]] and Bud are long lost twins.]]
Think about it, why would two teenage boys look exactly the same and be repesenting the same zodiac sign (Taurus) if they weren't related. Here's some pictures first[[http://images.wikia.com/beyblade/images/a/a3/Benkei1.jpg Benkei]] and then [[http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/e/ec/Bud_Bison.jpg Bud]]
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[[WMG: Kevin Stelar (and by extension, Geo) is a direct descendent of [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan.]]]]
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[[WMG:In the future, everyone, everything and maybe even the entire planet will be made of EM Waves.]]
By Star Force EM Waves have become commonplace and have been shown to make up almost everything in the game. Furthermore, it's revealed that both Luna and Kelvin Stelar have been turned into EM Waves. The inevitable will happen.
[[WMG:Kevin Kelvin Stelar (and by extension, Geo) is a direct descendent of [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan.]]]]
By Star Force EM Waves have become commonplace and have been shown to make up almost everything in the game. Furthermore, it's revealed that both Luna and Kelvin Stelar have been turned into EM Waves. The inevitable will happen.
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[[WMG: Kevin Stelar (and by extension, Geo) is a direct descendent of [[MegaManBattleNetwork Lan.]]]]
Research that pertains to the global network is the family business, dating back to Lan's grandfather. Somewhere along the line, one of the descendents was a female scientist (possibly the inventor of the EM network), who married into the Stelar family
Research that pertains to the global network is the family business, dating back to Lan's grandfather. Somewhere along the line, one of the descendents was a female scientist (possibly the inventor of the EM network), who married into the Stelar family
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** Protoman and Bass do actually exist in the series, though, as parts of the [[NoExportForYou Secret Satellite Server]].
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* This Troper always saw Solo as the Bass of the series, and Sonia as a combination Roll/Protoman
