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23rd Mar '17 4:20:55 AM dethtoll
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[[WMG: Mega Man V on Game Boy is the final game in the Classic series.]]
It's clear that for a variety of reasons Capcom is never going to be exactly specific about the end of the Classic series. Aside from the obvious problems caused by creating definitive fates for the cast, trying to bridge the gap between the light-hearted Classic series with the much grimmer X series would be rather difficult as well as tone-deaf.

Which leaves us with the question: Which entry would be a logical conclusion to the Classic era? What would serve as a grand opus, a series finale if you will? I think it's MMV. While it predates the appearance of characters like Duo and most importantly Bass, I think it serves as a fitting close to the franchise.

First, thematically it's very different from the prior games. Instead of the usual Robot Masters, it's a new concept with the Stardroids, powerful alien robots built with materials not found on earth. Other than a brief couple adventures in vacuum there are no outdoor sections in the game, much of the game being in [[Main/EternalEngine giant mechanical mazes]]. Half the game is set in space. It's clear Capcom wanted to end the Game Boy series on an epic note -- why not end the entire series that way? (After all, Mega Man 10, while entertaining, was hardly conclusive...)

If you look at the series there's a clear escalation in Wily's behavior. First it was about proving himself, then it became about revenge, and he's been getting worse over time, going so far as to kidnap someone's child to force them to do his bidding, though nothing tops using time travel to kidnap a future version of Mega Man to kill Mega Man's present-day version for sheer outlandishness and raises some serious questions as to whether Quint will even matter in the future of Mega Man anymore. Wily's labs get grander as well, with multiple fortresses, a giant tank fortress, multiple space stations and even a starship. (Where does he get the money? That's a question for another WMG entry.) Mega Man V reaches the logical conclusion to this nonsense with a friggin' Death Star knockoff -- it's gigantic, it's in space, and it shoots laser blasts at you the size of city buses. The destructive capability of this thing has to be quite high.

Along the way, he's gotten involved with alien technology at least a couple times, some of it quite ancient -- and powerful. The Evil Energy alone is nearly enough to kill Mega Man without Duo's interference -- a fact that had to have made an impression on Wily. It stands to reason, then, that he'd be looking for more alien technology. Which leads us to the Stardroids, who laugh off Mega Man's buster shots, a clear escalation from before when Wily's own robots were always vulnerable to basic buster fire. So why is it that the Stardroids have gone almost forgotten? Perhaps it's because they only appeared at the end of the Classic series, and by the time of X, the Stardroids' impact is no longer relevant? (Though there's the distinct possibility that Zero is a Wily-built Stardroid based on Terra...)

There's also his repeated attempts at creating a counter to Mega Man. Quint and the Mega Man Killers, then Bass and finally Zero. Mega Man V has you face all three of the Mega Man Killers and Quint; Bass is off on his own and Zero is possibly unfinished, or perhaps part of another dead man's switch much like the rampage that broke Wily out of jail was in Mega Man 7.

The combination of Wily's escalation, his obvious experimentation as he works on Zero, his use of the Stardroids, and his bringing back Quint and the Killers for one last go-round all speak to Mega Man V being not just the end of the Game Boy series, but the end of the Classic series in general. It's Wily's grand opus, a repeat of his old man-behind-the-man ruse combined with his attempt to harness alien technology, a reunion of the robots he built specifically to counter Mega Man, and his biggest starbase yet. He's throwing everything he's got at Mega Man. Wily's getting along in years, he can't keep doing this forever, can he? This is his last ditch attempt to take out the thorn in his side once and for all; after that, it's up to Zero to carry on his legacy.

And in the end he still fails, a victim of his own hubris. What did he expect when he awakened an ancient super weapon?


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24th Feb '17 10:02:34 PM DoctorNeoRaptor
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It would explain [[spoiler: why Mega thought he caught Roboenza and Wily's denial of it, as well as his role in the X series.]]

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It would explain [[spoiler: why Mega Rock thought he caught Roboenza and Wily's denial of it, as well as his role in the X series.]]


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[[WMG: Whoever created the Evil Energy (most likely the evil robot in Megaman 8) also created the Stardroids]]


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[[WMG: The original timeline (read: the Classic-X-Zero-ZX-Legends order) had their own version of Star Force]]
The Classic series had the [[VideoGame/MegaManV Stardroids]], evil robots from space, [[VideoGame/MegaMan8 Duo]], the apparent protector of the galaxy, and the evil robot who brought the evil energy to Earth. After the events of VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent, humanity and Reploids build a spaceship and [[Main/CaptainObvious go out somewhere in space]], where the crew meets Duo. Back on Earth, Master Thomas causes a cataclysm and destroys humans and Reploids alike, replacing them with Carbons. Meanwhile, the spaceship crew build a new life on other planets, where humans and Reploids live harmoniously.
4th Jan '17 2:50:07 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Bubble Man is a FlawedPrototype in making a water-faring helper

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* Bubble Man is a FlawedPrototype in making a water-faring helper
helper. Burst Man and Wave Man are a DecompositeCharacter of him; one to better weaponize bubbles, the other the fufill its original purpose
* Wood Man is for environmental purposes. [[PragmaticVillainy A cleaner world is a better world to rule]].



* Charge Man was, obviously, made for shipping researches
* Star Man exists was made to help astronomers. When he rules the world, Wily-funded astronauts will have Gravity Man helping them with artificial gravity
* Crystal Man already has a non-world takeover skill: [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter make Dr Wily money.]]

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* Charge Man was, obviously, made for shipping researches
researches.
* Star Man exists was made to help astronomers. When he rules the world, Wily-funded astronauts will have Gravity Man helping them with artificial gravity
gravity.
* Crystal Man already has a non-world takeover skill: [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter make Dr Wily money.]]
]] Same with Junk Man.
* Stone Man was an attempt to make a Guts Man of his own.



* Grenade Man exists to one-up Bomb Man. Dr Wily decided against this since he [[EvenEvilHasStandards is creeped out by Grenade Man.]]

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* Grenade Man exists to one-up Bomb Man. Dr Wily decided against this since he [[EvenEvilHasStandards is he's creeped out by Grenade Man.]]


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[[WMG: Turbo Man is a Transformers reference.]]
He's a robot that can transform into a car at will. This may be in-universe as well; depending on when 20XX is Dr Wily could've been a Transformers fan growing up, so he decided to make his own with his favorite car.
21st Jul '16 4:25:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Zero being the reason for the end of the Classic series just doesn't make sense, considering a)WordOfGod jossed it and b)no way in Hell the survivors would let him return to his capsule. Quint, however, was around and active in the future of Mega Man Classic. Dr Wily, being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, would makes sure that [[XanatosGambit even if Quint lost in the past, he wouldn't have to deal with Light in the future]]. The solution was to have the reprogrammed Quint aka [[spoiler:an incredibly skilled future Mega Man]] destroy any of Dr Light's functioning robots and his lab, so that they wouldn't be able to oppose Future Wily. This included [[KillEmAll eliminating Proto Man, Bass]], [[WouldHurtAGirl Roll]](ignoring the helper robot [[NiceJobFixingItVillain allowed it to become Mega Man]]) and Auto. If you take the VideoGame/MegaManX3 cameo as canon, Auto escaped. This may go to explain why X spent 70 years overdue in a capsule, in spite of a presumably living Dr Cossack and a working Dr Light AI: Quint crashed the lab and buried the X capsule even further. Quint [[AntiClimaxBoss is so pathetic]] because, [[TemporalParadox among other things]], he's been wailed on by the FutureBadass versions of all surviving Light bots. However, Quint didn't need to eliminate all [[spoiler:Mega Man's]] friends and foes...

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Zero being the reason for the end of the Classic series just doesn't make sense, considering a)WordOfGod jossed it and b)no way in Hell the survivors would let him return to his capsule. Quint, however, was around and active in the future of Mega Man Classic. Dr Wily, being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, Wily would makes sure that [[XanatosGambit even if Quint lost in the past, he wouldn't have to deal with Light in the future]]. The solution was to have the reprogrammed Quint aka [[spoiler:an incredibly skilled future Mega Man]] destroy any of Dr Light's functioning robots and his lab, so that they wouldn't be able to oppose Future Wily. This included [[KillEmAll eliminating Proto Man, Bass]], [[WouldHurtAGirl Roll]](ignoring the helper robot [[NiceJobFixingItVillain allowed it to become Mega Man]]) and Auto. If you take the VideoGame/MegaManX3 cameo as canon, Auto escaped. This may go to explain why X spent 70 years overdue in a capsule, in spite of a presumably living Dr Cossack and a working Dr Light AI: Quint crashed the lab and buried the X capsule even further. Quint [[AntiClimaxBoss is so pathetic]] because, [[TemporalParadox among other things]], he's been wailed on by the FutureBadass versions of all surviving Light bots. However, Quint didn't need to eliminate all [[spoiler:Mega Man's]] friends and foes...



** Perhaps there's two types of "Electric" Weapons: Ball and Piercing. Most Electric attacks are the Ball types. The exceptions? The Thunder Beam... and the Laser Trident (which takes off 6 units of Rock's health vs. 4 Units from [[TheGlomp glomping]]). So Rock not only ''was'' weak to the Thunder Beam... he ''still'' is. [[spoiler:At least Dr. Light was GenreSavvy enough to realize that if he was going to equip one of his new robots with his prize fighter's weakness, that robot should then have an easily accessible weakness of her own.]]

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** Perhaps there's two types of "Electric" Weapons: Ball and Piercing. Most Electric attacks are the Ball types. The exceptions? The Thunder Beam... and the Laser Trident (which takes off 6 units of Rock's health vs. 4 Units from [[TheGlomp glomping]]). So Rock not only ''was'' weak to the Thunder Beam... he ''still'' is. [[spoiler:At least Dr. Light was GenreSavvy enough to realize realized that if he was going to equip one of his new robots with his prize fighter's weakness, that robot should then have an easily accessible weakness of her own.]]



The reason why Mega Man never [[BagOfSpilling brings back old weapons]] is because Mega Man [[GenreSavvy already knows]] that he needs to make room for new weapons, and instead puts old weapons in storage just in case. This is supported by [[CompilationRerelease The Wily Wars]], where Mega Man can bring in any weapon from the first three games, but only eight of them.

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The reason why Mega Man never [[BagOfSpilling brings back old weapons]] is because Mega Man [[GenreSavvy already knows]] knows that he needs to make room for new weapons, and instead puts old weapons in storage just in case. This is supported by [[CompilationRerelease The Wily Wars]], where Mega Man can bring in any weapon from the first three games, but only eight of them.



* Alternatively, the ammunition for each weapon isn't [[GameplayAndStorySegregation truly infinitely replenishable]] between missions. Once Mega Man runs out, he discards the weapon since it isn't worth it since he can [[ForegoneConclusion simply copy weapons from]] [[GenreSavvy any new opponents he faces.]]

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* Alternatively, the ammunition for each weapon isn't [[GameplayAndStorySegregation truly infinitely replenishable]] between missions. Once Mega Man runs out, he discards the weapon since it isn't worth it since he can [[ForegoneConclusion simply copy weapons from]] [[GenreSavvy any new opponents he faces.]]
13th Jul '16 7:21:21 PM gewunomox
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Dr. Wily's plan to frame Dr. Light in ''MegaMan9'' actually started in ''MegaMan8''. Sometime before ''8'', he secretly captured Light [[spoiler:and swapped him out with the robotic duplicate]]. It explains why Light was careless enough to let another dangerous robot into his lab -- he was studying it and relaying his findings to Wily. Same goes for the evil energy that he contained. It also explains [[ElmuhFuddSyndwome his extreme speech impediment]] as a glitch that foreshadows who he really is.

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Dr. Wily's plan to frame Dr. Light in ''MegaMan9'' ''VideoGame/MegaMan9'' actually started in ''MegaMan8''.''VideoGame/MegaMan8''. Sometime before ''8'', he secretly captured Light [[spoiler:and swapped him out with the robotic duplicate]]. It explains why Light was careless enough to let another dangerous robot into his lab -- he was studying it and relaying his findings to Wily. Same goes for the evil energy that he contained. It also explains [[ElmuhFuddSyndwome his extreme speech impediment]] as a glitch that foreshadows who he really is.
2nd Jun '16 8:28:47 AM Kahran042
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* '''[=MM&B]''':

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1st May '16 2:48:02 PM Tailikku
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* {{Jossed}}. It's just like in the game where Mega Man receives back up from the Mega Man 2 robots after talking to them. The Mega Man 1/Powered Up robots and Cement Man are incapacitated, Splash Woman is off somewhere, and the rest of the Mega Man 9 robots are not built yet.



* Confirmed

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1st May '16 2:43:30 PM Tailikku
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[[WMG: Nasten'ka from [[NovasAventurasDeMegaman the Brazilian comic]] will appear (by Geno from the Cutstuff forums)]]
After Mega Man 4, Kalinka goes up to Cossack and is all like, "Poppa, build me a robot to protect me when you're not around!!" And Cossack builds a bodyguard robot which he officially names Anastasia Cossack, but is given the affectionate nickname of Nasten'ka.
7th Feb '16 9:47:09 PM Digifiend
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Dr Light DID have kids.]]
The timeline split between Classic and Battle Network is only about 20 years before the first games - which means Dr Light's son, Yuchiro Hikari was already born. However, Hub, one of Yuchiro's twin sons, died. And of course since Net Navi technology doesn't exist in this reality, he couldn't be saved that way. Feeling sad about this, having also lost his wife, and wanting surviving twin Lan to stay safe, Tadashi Hikari leaves ACDC Town, renames himself Thomas Light, and builds Rock and Roll.
21st Dec '15 12:10:39 AM GethWho
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*Check out the art for Terra, then Zero. He's not based on a Robot Master at all. He's a Wily-built ''stardroid''...which opens up a lot of possibilities regarding the Maverick Virus being an adapted form of Evil Energy, as above.
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