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6th Jun '17 6:09:32 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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[[WMG: Zero didn't kill everyone, but he still fought Mega Man.]]
It's just that Mega Man actually managed to ''win''. From what little we know about Zero's construction, he was incomplete. That could mean Dr Wily died before he could be physically completed, or an incomplete Zero was sent after Mega Man. We do see him having dreams of seeing his creator, destroyed robots and what looks like blood on his hands. Zero was initially launched, however it went ''badly'' as the psychotic Maverick went off to slaughter everyone in his path. Mega Man was able to defeat him, but only because Zero wasn't finished yet and nowhere near his true potential. It didn't just take every Robot Master power-up he had, but likely the help of [[EnemyMine Bass]] to stop him. Even then [[NearVillainVictory he would've killed Mega Man]] if it weren't for the RestrainingBolt forcing him to make a tactical retreat. Dr Wily proceeded to keep Zero in lockdown for the next century because he wasn't finished and [[EvenEvilHasStandards even he thought he was psychotic]]. And even that century wasn't enough because he was still a maniac upon waking up. While there were human casualties, the only main character who died was likely [[KarmicDeath Dr Wily himself]]...which didn't really stick.

[[WMG: Auto is the SoleSurvivor of the Classic series.]]
That's part of why he was built. As Dr Light's assistant, he was entrusted with maintaining his work. Proto Man's own lifespan is short, Mega Man may have become Quint and the rest could be explained by warranty. However Auto was made to last the centuries, and help run both the holograms containing Dr Light's mind and physically construct the armor to fit 22nd century technology standards. The Auto-looking mechaniloid that guards the first capsule was an invention of his.


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[[WMG: Dr Light is an immigrant to America, originating from Japan.]]
Thus how his counterpart is named Tadashi Hikari, despite the timeline diverging after his birth. "Hikari" means Light so it was simple translation, and since "Tadashi" also means light he decided not to be redundant and chose a first name to avoid confusion.


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6th Jun '17 6:59:01 AM Piterpicher
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[[WMG: [[{{SonicTheHedgehog}} Sonic]], [[{{AdventuresOfLolo}} Lolo]], and Mega Man are all the same character, only drawn in different art styles.]]

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[[WMG: [[{{SonicTheHedgehog}} Sonic]], [[{{AdventuresOfLolo}} [[{{VideoGame/AdventuresOfLolo}} Lolo]], and Mega Man are all the same character, only drawn in different art styles.]]
25th May '17 4:29:42 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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** Metal Blades -> Bubble Man: Given he's meant to swim, Bubble Man would be made of light material and have buoyant tanks that it could cut through easier.


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** Pharaoh Shot -> Ring Man: That blast of light must make it really hard to focus. Also, consider that as a robot designed to combat Mega Man, Dr Wily probably forced Dr Cossack to make him. Perhaps he had it weak to one of his original Robot Masters to get back at Wily.


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** Napalm Bomb -> Stone Man: Bombs are typically used for demolitions, like building. Who are composed of bricks, like Stone Man.
** Power Stone -> Charge Man: Rubble on the train tracks cause him to go off track and crash.


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** Bubble Bomb -> Jupiter: Essentially an electrical appliance, the addition of water would screw him up


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** Yamato Spear -> Knight Man: The two have a WorthyOpponent relationship, so the weakness may reflect that.
** Silver Tomahawk -> Yamato Man: Veiled critique on the relationship the USA and Japan have?


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** Junk Shield -> Freeze Man: While Scorch Wheel is pretty obvious, the bio states he was a prototype for a non-polluting robot before Dr Wily stole him. He might have issues being exposed to a pollutant because of this.
** Wild Coil -> Spring Man: That lanky body of his likely can't resist cutting too well.


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** Thunder Claw -> Grenade Man: The MadBomber already has a short fuse, the electricity would make him even more prone to explode.


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** Tornado Blow -> Magma Man: The strong winds would blow the fire away.


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[[WMG: Numbering systems for robots without them.]]
* The Support Units: LSU, WSU and CSU. The "SU" is support unit, and the first letter is their creator. So Rush, Eddie and Tango would be LSU-001, LSU-002 and LSU-003. Treble and possible Reggage would be WSU-001 and WSU-002, and Beat would be CSU-001.
* Doctor Light's unnumbered robots: Auto is likely SLN-001, aka "Special Light Number". Since the first three models he's the only Robot Master he has without a man or woman added that we know of. And he does serve a special purpose as Dr Light's assistant. If Zero has a Robot Master numbering despite not being one of DWN-Infinity, X could have one as DLN-X.
* The Copy Robots: Probably some variant-based designation. The Copy Robots could be "Copy Robot Number" or CRN.
* Rockman Shadow: Megaman Megamix is SVN-001. As the SuperPrototype, Rockman Shadow would be SVN-000
* The Dark Men: Similar to the Mega Man Killers, they probably have a unique classification of DMN(Dark Man Number). Or they are part of the Copy Robot Numbers, given the most well-known Dark Man is pretending to be Proto Man. The ones that look different might have a CRN-(Fake Proto Man's number)A-C.
* Other Robot Masters by Dr Wily: Doc Robot could be SWN-000. Like Bass, he's an attempt to replicate Mega Man's power-namely his ability to copy other Robot Masters' powers. King would probably go by KGN-000 as he's the leader of the King Numbers, though as an advanced model he could be considered SWN-002 as well.
2nd May '17 6:32:11 PM nombretomado
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** [[TimeStandsStill Time Stopper]] -> Quick Man: Quick Man doesn't consciously control his running; he commits to a movement, then writes a macro to move his limbs consistent with that. The attempts of his [[TransformersAnimated servos]] to follow the macro while frozen causes him damage.

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** [[TimeStandsStill Time Stopper]] -> Quick Man: Quick Man doesn't consciously control his running; he commits to a movement, then writes a macro to move his limbs consistent with that. The attempts of his [[TransformersAnimated [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated servos]] to follow the macro while frozen causes him damage.
10th Apr '17 12:27:02 PM nombretomado
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* As he got steadily older, Dr. [[strike:Light]] Stark had to give up the Ironman mantle. Taking a pseudonym was due to all the world either wanting either his attention or his death, due to his techno-hero legacy; "Thomas" is a name beginning with T that is very similar to Tony, and cold laboratory "light" is regularly "stark". The Ironman name itself became the basis for the ''Man'' artificial intelligence series, the next logical step in the JARVIS concept: machines that could not only process commands by voice and physical interaction, but walk and interact with their environments. Protoman was the logical title for the original generalized model, Mega Man the generalized refinement, and many of the others receiving their names specifically to make it easy to remember their niche capabilities. His inventions, though, ''again'' fell into the hands of international terrorism (especially via the machinations of one of his own truly talented former colleagues), which forced him to reevaluate the role of scientists and engineers on the cutting edge of technology for a second time. His ultimate decision was that so long as people like him only made tools (which includes weapons), there could never be any guarantees against their dark uses; the only way to make a tool ineffective in the cause of evil was to give the tool choice in the matter. Thus, work began on a truly New, and potentially horrifying, stage in the history of humanity: '''X''', a biped-frame-based artificial intelligence with the ability to not only act, but act ''on its own'': the ability to think, feel and make its own decisions. This work had to be in secret, of course, because humanity was not yet ready for the implications of the creation of the kind of artificial species their kind had feared the development of (and [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 for good reason]]) for ages already. Thus, the Capsule, designed to test X exclusively by [[strike:Stark's]] Light's own personally programmed sentience and personality algorithms, to ensure that "he" would not wind up unleashing the very threat that Light sought to create him to prevent. And it would've gone off without a hitch, if [[strike:[Insert true identity here]]] Wily hadn't somehow got wind of the project, and begun work on his own vision of the future, in turn. And finally, the clincher: Light's SeanConnery beard is the fully matured stage of Stark's Generation X goatee.

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* As he got steadily older, Dr. [[strike:Light]] Stark had to give up the Ironman mantle. Taking a pseudonym was due to all the world either wanting either his attention or his death, due to his techno-hero legacy; "Thomas" is a name beginning with T that is very similar to Tony, and cold laboratory "light" is regularly "stark". The Ironman name itself became the basis for the ''Man'' artificial intelligence series, the next logical step in the JARVIS concept: machines that could not only process commands by voice and physical interaction, but walk and interact with their environments. Protoman was the logical title for the original generalized model, Mega Man the generalized refinement, and many of the others receiving their names specifically to make it easy to remember their niche capabilities. His inventions, though, ''again'' fell into the hands of international terrorism (especially via the machinations of one of his own truly talented former colleagues), which forced him to reevaluate the role of scientists and engineers on the cutting edge of technology for a second time. His ultimate decision was that so long as people like him only made tools (which includes weapons), there could never be any guarantees against their dark uses; the only way to make a tool ineffective in the cause of evil was to give the tool choice in the matter. Thus, work began on a truly New, and potentially horrifying, stage in the history of humanity: '''X''', a biped-frame-based artificial intelligence with the ability to not only act, but act ''on its own'': the ability to think, feel and make its own decisions. This work had to be in secret, of course, because humanity was not yet ready for the implications of the creation of the kind of artificial species their kind had feared the development of (and [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 for good reason]]) for ages already. Thus, the Capsule, designed to test X exclusively by [[strike:Stark's]] Light's own personally programmed sentience and personality algorithms, to ensure that "he" would not wind up unleashing the very threat that Light sought to create him to prevent. And it would've gone off without a hitch, if [[strike:[Insert true identity here]]] Wily hadn't somehow got wind of the project, and begun work on his own vision of the future, in turn. And finally, the clincher: Light's SeanConnery Creator/SeanConnery beard is the fully matured stage of Stark's Generation X goatee.
23rd Mar '17 4:20:55 AM dethtoll
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[[WMG: Mega Man V on Game Boy is the final game in the Classic series.]]
It's clear that for a variety of reasons Capcom is never going to be exactly specific about the end of the Classic series. Aside from the obvious problems caused by creating definitive fates for the cast, trying to bridge the gap between the light-hearted Classic series with the much grimmer X series would be rather difficult as well as tone-deaf.

Which leaves us with the question: Which entry would be a logical conclusion to the Classic era? What would serve as a grand opus, a series finale if you will? I think it's MMV. While it predates the appearance of characters like Duo and most importantly Bass, I think it serves as a fitting close to the franchise.

First, thematically it's very different from the prior games. Instead of the usual Robot Masters, it's a new concept with the Stardroids, powerful alien robots built with materials not found on earth. Other than a brief couple adventures in vacuum there are no outdoor sections in the game, much of the game being in [[Main/EternalEngine giant mechanical mazes]]. Half the game is set in space. It's clear Capcom wanted to end the Game Boy series on an epic note -- why not end the entire series that way? (After all, Mega Man 10, while entertaining, was hardly conclusive...)

If you look at the series there's a clear escalation in Wily's behavior. First it was about proving himself, then it became about revenge, and he's been getting worse over time, going so far as to kidnap someone's child to force them to do his bidding, though nothing tops using time travel to kidnap a future version of Mega Man to kill Mega Man's present-day version for sheer outlandishness and raises some serious questions as to whether Quint will even matter in the future of Mega Man anymore. Wily's labs get grander as well, with multiple fortresses, a giant tank fortress, multiple space stations and even a starship. (Where does he get the money? That's a question for another WMG entry.) Mega Man V reaches the logical conclusion to this nonsense with a friggin' Death Star knockoff -- it's gigantic, it's in space, and it shoots laser blasts at you the size of city buses. The destructive capability of this thing has to be quite high.

Along the way, he's gotten involved with alien technology at least a couple times, some of it quite ancient -- and powerful. The Evil Energy alone is nearly enough to kill Mega Man without Duo's interference -- a fact that had to have made an impression on Wily. It stands to reason, then, that he'd be looking for more alien technology. Which leads us to the Stardroids, who laugh off Mega Man's buster shots, a clear escalation from before when Wily's own robots were always vulnerable to basic buster fire. So why is it that the Stardroids have gone almost forgotten? Perhaps it's because they only appeared at the end of the Classic series, and by the time of X, the Stardroids' impact is no longer relevant? (Though there's the distinct possibility that Zero is a Wily-built Stardroid based on Terra...)

There's also his repeated attempts at creating a counter to Mega Man. Quint and the Mega Man Killers, then Bass and finally Zero. Mega Man V has you face all three of the Mega Man Killers and Quint; Bass is off on his own and Zero is possibly unfinished, or perhaps part of another dead man's switch much like the rampage that broke Wily out of jail was in Mega Man 7.

The combination of Wily's escalation, his obvious experimentation as he works on Zero, his use of the Stardroids, and his bringing back Quint and the Killers for one last go-round all speak to Mega Man V being not just the end of the Game Boy series, but the end of the Classic series in general. It's Wily's grand opus, a repeat of his old man-behind-the-man ruse combined with his attempt to harness alien technology, a reunion of the robots he built specifically to counter Mega Man, and his biggest starbase yet. He's throwing everything he's got at Mega Man. Wily's getting along in years, he can't keep doing this forever, can he? This is his last ditch attempt to take out the thorn in his side once and for all; after that, it's up to Zero to carry on his legacy.

And in the end he still fails, a victim of his own hubris. What did he expect when he awakened an ancient super weapon?


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24th Feb '17 10:02:34 PM DoctorNeoRaptor
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It would explain [[spoiler: why Mega thought he caught Roboenza and Wily's denial of it, as well as his role in the X series.]]

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It would explain [[spoiler: why Mega Rock thought he caught Roboenza and Wily's denial of it, as well as his role in the X series.]]


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[[WMG: Whoever created the Evil Energy (most likely the evil robot in Megaman 8) also created the Stardroids]]


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[[WMG: The original timeline (read: the Classic-X-Zero-ZX-Legends order) had their own version of Star Force]]
The Classic series had the [[VideoGame/MegaManV Stardroids]], evil robots from space, [[VideoGame/MegaMan8 Duo]], the apparent protector of the galaxy, and the evil robot who brought the evil energy to Earth. After the events of VideoGame/MegaManZXAdvent, humanity and Reploids build a spaceship and [[Main/CaptainObvious go out somewhere in space]], where the crew meets Duo. Back on Earth, Master Thomas causes a cataclysm and destroys humans and Reploids alike, replacing them with Carbons. Meanwhile, the spaceship crew build a new life on other planets, where humans and Reploids live harmoniously.
4th Jan '17 2:50:07 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Bubble Man is a FlawedPrototype in making a water-faring helper

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* Bubble Man is a FlawedPrototype in making a water-faring helper
helper. Burst Man and Wave Man are a DecompositeCharacter of him; one to better weaponize bubbles, the other the fufill its original purpose
* Wood Man is for environmental purposes. [[PragmaticVillainy A cleaner world is a better world to rule]].



* Charge Man was, obviously, made for shipping researches
* Star Man exists was made to help astronomers. When he rules the world, Wily-funded astronauts will have Gravity Man helping them with artificial gravity
* Crystal Man already has a non-world takeover skill: [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter make Dr Wily money.]]

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* Charge Man was, obviously, made for shipping researches
researches.
* Star Man exists was made to help astronomers. When he rules the world, Wily-funded astronauts will have Gravity Man helping them with artificial gravity
gravity.
* Crystal Man already has a non-world takeover skill: [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter make Dr Wily money.]]
]] Same with Junk Man.
* Stone Man was an attempt to make a Guts Man of his own.



* Grenade Man exists to one-up Bomb Man. Dr Wily decided against this since he [[EvenEvilHasStandards is creeped out by Grenade Man.]]

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* Grenade Man exists to one-up Bomb Man. Dr Wily decided against this since he [[EvenEvilHasStandards is he's creeped out by Grenade Man.]]


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[[WMG: Turbo Man is a Transformers reference.]]
He's a robot that can transform into a car at will. This may be in-universe as well; depending on when 20XX is Dr Wily could've been a Transformers fan growing up, so he decided to make his own with his favorite car.
21st Jul '16 4:25:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Zero being the reason for the end of the Classic series just doesn't make sense, considering a)WordOfGod jossed it and b)no way in Hell the survivors would let him return to his capsule. Quint, however, was around and active in the future of Mega Man Classic. Dr Wily, being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, would makes sure that [[XanatosGambit even if Quint lost in the past, he wouldn't have to deal with Light in the future]]. The solution was to have the reprogrammed Quint aka [[spoiler:an incredibly skilled future Mega Man]] destroy any of Dr Light's functioning robots and his lab, so that they wouldn't be able to oppose Future Wily. This included [[KillEmAll eliminating Proto Man, Bass]], [[WouldHurtAGirl Roll]](ignoring the helper robot [[NiceJobFixingItVillain allowed it to become Mega Man]]) and Auto. If you take the VideoGame/MegaManX3 cameo as canon, Auto escaped. This may go to explain why X spent 70 years overdue in a capsule, in spite of a presumably living Dr Cossack and a working Dr Light AI: Quint crashed the lab and buried the X capsule even further. Quint [[AntiClimaxBoss is so pathetic]] because, [[TemporalParadox among other things]], he's been wailed on by the FutureBadass versions of all surviving Light bots. However, Quint didn't need to eliminate all [[spoiler:Mega Man's]] friends and foes...

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Zero being the reason for the end of the Classic series just doesn't make sense, considering a)WordOfGod jossed it and b)no way in Hell the survivors would let him return to his capsule. Quint, however, was around and active in the future of Mega Man Classic. Dr Wily, being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, Wily would makes sure that [[XanatosGambit even if Quint lost in the past, he wouldn't have to deal with Light in the future]]. The solution was to have the reprogrammed Quint aka [[spoiler:an incredibly skilled future Mega Man]] destroy any of Dr Light's functioning robots and his lab, so that they wouldn't be able to oppose Future Wily. This included [[KillEmAll eliminating Proto Man, Bass]], [[WouldHurtAGirl Roll]](ignoring the helper robot [[NiceJobFixingItVillain allowed it to become Mega Man]]) and Auto. If you take the VideoGame/MegaManX3 cameo as canon, Auto escaped. This may go to explain why X spent 70 years overdue in a capsule, in spite of a presumably living Dr Cossack and a working Dr Light AI: Quint crashed the lab and buried the X capsule even further. Quint [[AntiClimaxBoss is so pathetic]] because, [[TemporalParadox among other things]], he's been wailed on by the FutureBadass versions of all surviving Light bots. However, Quint didn't need to eliminate all [[spoiler:Mega Man's]] friends and foes...



** Perhaps there's two types of "Electric" Weapons: Ball and Piercing. Most Electric attacks are the Ball types. The exceptions? The Thunder Beam... and the Laser Trident (which takes off 6 units of Rock's health vs. 4 Units from [[TheGlomp glomping]]). So Rock not only ''was'' weak to the Thunder Beam... he ''still'' is. [[spoiler:At least Dr. Light was GenreSavvy enough to realize that if he was going to equip one of his new robots with his prize fighter's weakness, that robot should then have an easily accessible weakness of her own.]]

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** Perhaps there's two types of "Electric" Weapons: Ball and Piercing. Most Electric attacks are the Ball types. The exceptions? The Thunder Beam... and the Laser Trident (which takes off 6 units of Rock's health vs. 4 Units from [[TheGlomp glomping]]). So Rock not only ''was'' weak to the Thunder Beam... he ''still'' is. [[spoiler:At least Dr. Light was GenreSavvy enough to realize realized that if he was going to equip one of his new robots with his prize fighter's weakness, that robot should then have an easily accessible weakness of her own.]]



The reason why Mega Man never [[BagOfSpilling brings back old weapons]] is because Mega Man [[GenreSavvy already knows]] that he needs to make room for new weapons, and instead puts old weapons in storage just in case. This is supported by [[CompilationRerelease The Wily Wars]], where Mega Man can bring in any weapon from the first three games, but only eight of them.

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The reason why Mega Man never [[BagOfSpilling brings back old weapons]] is because Mega Man [[GenreSavvy already knows]] knows that he needs to make room for new weapons, and instead puts old weapons in storage just in case. This is supported by [[CompilationRerelease The Wily Wars]], where Mega Man can bring in any weapon from the first three games, but only eight of them.



* Alternatively, the ammunition for each weapon isn't [[GameplayAndStorySegregation truly infinitely replenishable]] between missions. Once Mega Man runs out, he discards the weapon since it isn't worth it since he can [[ForegoneConclusion simply copy weapons from]] [[GenreSavvy any new opponents he faces.]]

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* Alternatively, the ammunition for each weapon isn't [[GameplayAndStorySegregation truly infinitely replenishable]] between missions. Once Mega Man runs out, he discards the weapon since it isn't worth it since he can [[ForegoneConclusion simply copy weapons from]] [[GenreSavvy any new opponents he faces.]]
13th Jul '16 7:21:21 PM gewunomox
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Dr. Wily's plan to frame Dr. Light in ''MegaMan9'' actually started in ''MegaMan8''. Sometime before ''8'', he secretly captured Light [[spoiler:and swapped him out with the robotic duplicate]]. It explains why Light was careless enough to let another dangerous robot into his lab -- he was studying it and relaying his findings to Wily. Same goes for the evil energy that he contained. It also explains [[ElmuhFuddSyndwome his extreme speech impediment]] as a glitch that foreshadows who he really is.

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Dr. Wily's plan to frame Dr. Light in ''MegaMan9'' ''VideoGame/MegaMan9'' actually started in ''MegaMan8''.''VideoGame/MegaMan8''. Sometime before ''8'', he secretly captured Light [[spoiler:and swapped him out with the robotic duplicate]]. It explains why Light was careless enough to let another dangerous robot into his lab -- he was studying it and relaying his findings to Wily. Same goes for the evil energy that he contained. It also explains [[ElmuhFuddSyndwome his extreme speech impediment]] as a glitch that foreshadows who he really is.
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