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Arba revealed that Ill Illah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen during the Magician Orthodoxy, Solomon’s rebellion, or any point afterwards. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Ill Illah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of black rukh, Ill Illah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Ill Illah’s way of facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Ill Illah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
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Arba revealed that Ill Illah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen during the Magician Orthodoxy, Solomon’s rebellion, or any point afterwards. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Ill Illah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of black rukh, Ill Illah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Ill Illah’s way of facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Ill Illah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.end.
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The King Vessel is most likely a metal vessel taken UpToEleven, so it is only logical that it would be the physical vessel of the world's most powerful human and that the spirit to reside in him would be Solomon himself. This is the reason why everyone noticed his birth, which was an obvious ShoutOut to Jesus.
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The King Vessel is most likely a metal vessel taken UpToEleven, up to eleven, so it is only logical that it would be the physical vessel of the world's most powerful human and that the spirit to reside in him would be Solomon himself. This is the reason why everyone noticed his birth, which was an obvious ShoutOut to Jesus.
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[[WMG: Ill Ilah Committed Suicide vis HeroicSacrifice]]
Arba revealed that Il Ilah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen when David merged with it. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Il Ilah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of Black Rukh, Il Ilah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Il Ilah’s way or facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Il Ilah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
Arba revealed that Il Ilah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen when David merged with it. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Il Ilah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of Black Rukh, Il Ilah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Il Ilah’s way or facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Il Ilah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
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[[WMG: Ill Ilah Illah Committed Suicide vis HeroicSacrifice]]
Arba revealed thatIl Ilah Ill Illah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen when David merged with it.during the Magician Orthodoxy, Solomon’s rebellion, or any point afterwards. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Il Ilah Ill Illah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of Black Rukh, Il Ilah black rukh, Ill Illah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Il Ilah’s Ill Illah’s way or of facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Il Ilah Ill Illah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
Arba revealed that
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It was mentioned that the first Sindria was attacked and destroyed by Parthevia. During the battle Sinbad lost someone important to him. What if that person was Rurumu? In a way, she can be seen as a mother figure to Sinbad as well as Ja'far. She did teach him a lot of things after all. this would also explain why Hinahoho is a widower in the present.
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It was mentioned that the first Sindria was attacked and destroyed by Parthevia. During the battle Sinbad lost someone important to him. What if that person was Rurumu? In a way, she can be seen as a mother figure to Sinbad as well as Ja'far. She did teach him a lot of things after all. this would also explain why Hinahoho is a widower in the present.present.
[[WMG: Ill Ilah Committed Suicide vis HeroicSacrifice]]
Arba revealed that Il Ilah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen when David merged with it. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Il Ilah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of Black Rukh, Il Ilah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Il Ilah’s way or facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Il Ilah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
[[WMG: Ill Ilah Committed Suicide vis HeroicSacrifice]]
Arba revealed that Il Ilah had its own consciousness before David consumed it, but that consciousness was nowhere to be seen when David merged with it. Two theories about this: either making the humans into magicians killed it, or everything was part of its larger plan. Perhaps Il Ilah wanted to give people free will, but couldn’t because as the source of Black Rukh, Il Ilah is basically destiny itself, and couldn’t reject his own nature. So he had to commit suicide to do it, and every part history after that point until Solomon’s apotheosis was just Il Ilah’s way or facilitating that apotheosis, thus giving everyone free will. The fact that Solomon’s apotheosis was in fact fated according to David supports this. There’s no indication that it was possible to ScrewDestiny before Solomon ascended, and if it was then Solomon’s Ascension would have been unnecessary, which means that the end of destiny was the work of destiny itself. Since Il Ilah is destiny, he must have chosen for it to end.
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David created her to raise Solomon, yes, but he also took the long view when it came to his goals and everything she's done thus far has help him along. Around the same time he got what he wanted, Arba lost her ability to hear Ill-Illah, and had no idea what to do or what she wanted. The sudden VillainDecay makes perfect sense if she's little more than a biological robot following her programming, and it's run its course.
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David created her to raise Solomon, yes, but he also took the long view when it came to his goals and everything she's done thus far has help him along. Around the same time he got what he wanted, Arba lost her ability to hear Ill-Illah, and had no idea what to do or what she wanted. The sudden VillainDecay makes perfect sense if she's little more than a biological robot following her programming, and it's run its course.course.
[[WMG: Rurumu died during the fall of the first Sindria]]
It was mentioned that the first Sindria was attacked and destroyed by Parthevia. During the battle Sinbad lost someone important to him. What if that person was Rurumu? In a way, she can be seen as a mother figure to Sinbad as well as Ja'far. She did teach him a lot of things after all. this would also explain why Hinahoho is a widower in the present.
[[WMG: Rurumu died during the fall of the first Sindria]]
It was mentioned that the first Sindria was attacked and destroyed by Parthevia. During the battle Sinbad lost someone important to him. What if that person was Rurumu? In a way, she can be seen as a mother figure to Sinbad as well as Ja'far. She did teach him a lot of things after all. this would also explain why Hinahoho is a widower in the present.
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Al-Thaman made him fall by directly manipulating his brain, and they intended to have him for life. Thus, there wasn't much concern with making the process reversible. Regardless of his state of mind, Judar's rukh will always be black.
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Al-Thaman made him fall by directly manipulating his brain, and they intended to have him for life. Thus, there wasn't much concern with making the process reversible. Regardless of his state of mind, Judar's rukh will always be black.black.
[[WMG: Arba was never a real person.]]
David created her to raise Solomon, yes, but he also took the long view when it came to his goals and everything she's done thus far has help him along. Around the same time he got what he wanted, Arba lost her ability to hear Ill-Illah, and had no idea what to do or what she wanted. The sudden VillainDecay makes perfect sense if she's little more than a biological robot following her programming, and it's run its course.
[[WMG: Arba was never a real person.]]
David created her to raise Solomon, yes, but he also took the long view when it came to his goals and everything she's done thus far has help him along. Around the same time he got what he wanted, Arba lost her ability to hear Ill-Illah, and had no idea what to do or what she wanted. The sudden VillainDecay makes perfect sense if she's little more than a biological robot following her programming, and it's run its course.
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[[WMG: Magi will end in the 1001st Night]]
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[[WMG: Judar ''can't'' return to the white rukh.]]
Al-Thaman made him fall by directly manipulating his brain, and they intended to have him for life. Thus, there wasn't much concern with making the process reversible. Regardless of his state of mind, Judar's rukh will always be black.
[[WMG: Judar ''can't'' return to the white rukh.]]
Al-Thaman made him fall by directly manipulating his brain, and they intended to have him for life. Thus, there wasn't much concern with making the process reversible. Regardless of his state of mind, Judar's rukh will always be black.
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**Confirmed. Sinbad was killed by Ugo as punishment for attempting to reach the Sacred Palace. David is the true FV.
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[[WMG: Magi will end in the 1000th Night]]
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[[WMG: Magi will end in the 1000th 1001st Night]]
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Post-time skip he's the one of the few to see Sinbad's increasingly getting more and more corrupt and left, taking his kingdom and his Djinn with him.
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Post-time skip he's the one of the few to see Sinbad's increasingly getting more and more corrupt and left, taking his kingdom and his Djinn with him.him.
[[WMG: Magi will end in the 1000th Night]]
[[WMG: Magi will end in the 1000th Night]]
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[[spoiler: Sinbad mentioned to Alibaba that the current "emperor" of the Kou empire is someone who is really dear to him and that he should look forward to meeting the emperor. Notice the quotation marks around the word, emperor. The word in question is typically held by a male, after all. Kougyoku was rather friendly with Alibaba, as well. Furthermore, with Hakuryuu missing in action, Kouen, Koumei, and Kouha in exile, and Hakuei currently possessed by Arba, there's not many potential successors left.]]
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[[spoiler: Sinbad mentioned to Alibaba that the current "emperor" of the Kou empire is someone who is really dear to him and that he should look forward to meeting the emperor. Notice the quotation marks around the word, emperor. The word in question is typically held by a male, after all. Kougyoku was rather friendly with Alibaba, as well. Furthermore, with Hakuryuu missing in action, Kouen, Koumei, and Kouha in exile, and Hakuei currently possessed by Arba, there's not many potential successors left.]]]]
[[WMG: Takeruhiko Yamato will supplant Sinbad as the BigGood]]
Post-time skip he's the one of the few to see Sinbad's increasingly getting more and more corrupt and left, taking his kingdom and his Djinn with him.
[[WMG: Takeruhiko Yamato will supplant Sinbad as the BigGood]]
Post-time skip he's the one of the few to see Sinbad's increasingly getting more and more corrupt and left, taking his kingdom and his Djinn with him.
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* Most likely jossed, as the white Rukh represent free will and struggling against destiny, while the black Rukh come from cursing Fate and thus basically resigning yourself to a higher power.
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* Most likely jossed, as the white Rukh represent free will and struggling against destiny, while the black Rukh come from cursing Fate and thus basically resigning yourself to a higher power.
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[[WMG: The current "emperor" of the Kou empire is [[spoiler: Kougyoku]].]]
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[[WMG: The current "emperor" of the Kou empire is [[spoiler: Kougyoku]].]]Kougyoku]]]]
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[[WMG: The current "emperor" of the Kou empire is [[spoiler: Kougyoku]].]]
[[spoiler: Sinbad mentioned to Alibaba that the current "emperor" of the Kou empire is someone who is really dear to him and that he should look forward to meeting the emperor. Notice the quotation marks around the word, emperor. The word in question is typically held by a male, after all. Kougyoku was rather friendly with Alibaba, as well. Furthermore, with Hakuryuu missing in action, Kouen, Koumei, and Kouha in exile, and Hakuei currently possessed by Arba, there's not many potential successors left.]]
[[WMG: The current "emperor" of the Kou empire is [[spoiler: Kougyoku]].]]
[[spoiler: Sinbad mentioned to Alibaba that the current "emperor" of the Kou empire is someone who is really dear to him and that he should look forward to meeting the emperor. Notice the quotation marks around the word, emperor. The word in question is typically held by a male, after all. Kougyoku was rather friendly with Alibaba, as well. Furthermore, with Hakuryuu missing in action, Kouen, Koumei, and Kouha in exile, and Hakuei currently possessed by Arba, there's not many potential successors left.]]
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** Partly jossed. [[spoiler: The manga seems to evoke Sinbad's BigGood card, but only time will tell.]]
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SPOILER: The last time that Hakuryuu tries to fight Gyokuen, she is able to overwhelm him without so much as a blink. Granted, he was likely hindered with his blinding rage BUT... For all that she gave him AND Judal one hell of a fight, it is extremely doubtful that a woman that has almost blithely cultivated her youngest son's hatred for most of his life wouldn't have had some contingency plan in the off-chance that she'd be killed. Al-Thamen people have a nasty habit of not staying dead at least once after all...
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SPOILER: The last time that Hakuryuu tries to fight Gyokuen, she is able to overwhelm him without so much as a blink. Granted, he was likely hindered with his blinding rage BUT... For all that she gave him AND Judal one hell of a fight, it is extremely doubtful that a woman that has almost blithely cultivated her youngest son's hatred for most of his life wouldn't have had some contingency plan in the off-chance that she'd be killed. Al-Thamen people have a nasty habit of not staying dead at least once after all...all...
** Jossed as of Chapter 273
** Jossed as of Chapter 273
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The reason he's so frequently oblivious to women getting [[LoveAtFirstSight spontaneous crushes]] on him ("Ladykiller of the Seven Seas") is because he thinks lovestruck is just how the majority of women normally act.
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The reason he's so frequently oblivious to women getting [[LoveAtFirstSight spontaneous crushes]] on him ("Ladykiller of the Seven Seas") is because he thinks lovestruck is just how the majority of women normally act.act.
[[WMG: The masked woman or her master is [[spoiler: Gyokuen]].]]
SPOILER: The last time that Hakuryuu tries to fight Gyokuen, she is able to overwhelm him without so much as a blink. Granted, he was likely hindered with his blinding rage BUT... For all that she gave him AND Judal one hell of a fight, it is extremely doubtful that a woman that has almost blithely cultivated her youngest son's hatred for most of his life wouldn't have had some contingency plan in the off-chance that she'd be killed. Al-Thamen people have a nasty habit of not staying dead at least once after all...
[[WMG: The masked woman or her master is [[spoiler: Gyokuen]].]]
SPOILER: The last time that Hakuryuu tries to fight Gyokuen, she is able to overwhelm him without so much as a blink. Granted, he was likely hindered with his blinding rage BUT... For all that she gave him AND Judal one hell of a fight, it is extremely doubtful that a woman that has almost blithely cultivated her youngest son's hatred for most of his life wouldn't have had some contingency plan in the off-chance that she'd be killed. Al-Thamen people have a nasty habit of not staying dead at least once after all...
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[[WMG: Djinn are [[DoctorWho Time Lords]], the metal vessels are their TARDIS-es, and the dungeon conquerors are companions.]]
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[[WMG: Djinn are [[DoctorWho [[Series/DoctorWho Time Lords]], the metal vessels are their TARDIS-es, and the dungeon conquerors are companions.]]
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Not just in the generic OmnicidalManiac way. The voice [[spoiler:of Ill Illah]] that she claims guided her all her life is really just a symptom of her own insanity.
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Not just in the generic OmnicidalManiac way. The voice [[spoiler:of Ill Illah]] that she claims guided her all her life is really just a symptom of her own insanity.insanity.
[[WMG: Sinbad is casting CharmPerson on everyone around him all the time, but doesn't realise it.]]
See Chapter 24 of Sinbad no Bouken. That HolyBacklight may be a metaphorical representation, but its [[EasyEvangelism effect]] is both tangible and ''not normal''.
The reason he's so frequently oblivious to women getting [[LoveAtFirstSight spontaneous crushes]] on him ("Ladykiller of the Seven Seas") is because he thinks lovestruck is just how the majority of women normally act.
[[WMG: Sinbad is casting CharmPerson on everyone around him all the time, but doesn't realise it.]]
See Chapter 24 of Sinbad no Bouken. That HolyBacklight may be a metaphorical representation, but its [[EasyEvangelism effect]] is both tangible and ''not normal''.
The reason he's so frequently oblivious to women getting [[LoveAtFirstSight spontaneous crushes]] on him ("Ladykiller of the Seven Seas") is because he thinks lovestruck is just how the majority of women normally act.
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Also, Alma Toran is the planet people see on the way in/out of the dungeons, the columns of light are [[spoiler:the locations of the underground cities people took refuge in AfterTheEnd, each of which was converted into a dungeon after the creation of the new world]].
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He will be the biggest Badass in the entire series.
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He will be the biggest Badass in the entire series.series.
[[WMG: Gyokuen is insane]]
Not just in the generic OmnicidalManiac way. The voice [[spoiler:of Ill Illah]] that she claims guided her all her life is really just a symptom of her own insanity.
[[WMG: Gyokuen is insane]]
Not just in the generic OmnicidalManiac way. The voice [[spoiler:of Ill Illah]] that she claims guided her all her life is really just a symptom of her own insanity.
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* [[spoiler:Jossed. Aladdin is Solomon's son, naturally born from his lover Sheba.]]
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* [[spoiler:Jossed. Aladdin is not Solomon, he's his son.]]
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* [[spoiler:Jossed as of chapter 234. The staff was a RedHerring.]]
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed in chapter 234. Arba is Gyokuen and she stole Sheba's staff after killing her.]]
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* [[spoiler:Partially jossed. Gyokuen is Arba, Solomon's and Sheba's mother figure. But Aladdin is indeed the son of Sheba and Solomon.]]
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** [[spoiler:Confirmed]] in chapter 234. In a very tragic and TearJerker way.
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If Ja'far has retained said SplitPersonality into adulthood, it could be a better explanation for the abruptness of his erratic BewareTheQuietOnes moments than the StepfordSmiler WMG above.
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If Ja'far has retained said SplitPersonality into adulthood, it could be a better explanation for the abruptness of his erratic BewareTheQuietOnes moments than the StepfordSmiler WMG above.above.
[[WMG: If/when the author decides to use the name Harun Al-Rashid...]]
He will be the biggest Badass in the entire series.
[[WMG: If/when the author decides to use the name Harun Al-Rashid...]]
He will be the biggest Badass in the entire series.
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*Basically Jossed. [[spoiler:We learn that their child's name is Tess.]] Unless some crazy reincarnation stuff is going on...
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taking down my wmg
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[[WMG: Solomon's Third Magi is an undead Sheba (the other two being Ugo and Alba).]]
In chapter 229 [[spoiler: Tess dies (Setta is likely dead too)]], which partially explains why Falan and Ithnan end up betraying Solomon.
Of course, people die all the time, and on top of that, Solomon's crew is extremely loyal to him. So, in order for the betrayal to happen, Solomon did something to really rub them the wrong way. At some point, Sheba dies. Emotionally distraught, Solomon impulsively brings Sheba back to life [[spoiler: along with their unborn child]], but doesn't do the same for the others--Sheba {{Came Back Wrong}}. However, Falan and Ithnan take this the wrong way, thinking that Solomon did this for selfish purposes.
In fact, the resurrection spell may be a last-ditch ploy by David to corrupt Solomon and his kingdom, starting with an evil zombie Sheba.
But seriously, just look at those [[http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/6151/12-215.0/compressed/dmagi_016.jpg?v=11393191732 dead eyes]].
In chapter 229 [[spoiler: Tess dies (Setta is likely dead too)]], which partially explains why Falan and Ithnan end up betraying Solomon.
Of course, people die all the time, and on top of that, Solomon's crew is extremely loyal to him. So, in order for the betrayal to happen, Solomon did something to really rub them the wrong way. At some point, Sheba dies. Emotionally distraught, Solomon impulsively brings Sheba back to life [[spoiler: along with their unborn child]], but doesn't do the same for the others--Sheba {{Came Back Wrong}}. However, Falan and Ithnan take this the wrong way, thinking that Solomon did this for selfish purposes.
In fact, the resurrection spell may be a last-ditch ploy by David to corrupt Solomon and his kingdom, starting with an evil zombie Sheba.
But seriously, just look at those [[http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/6151/12-215.0/compressed/dmagi_016.jpg?v=11393191732 dead eyes]].
