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Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. That's why she called out Jimmy's name before she died -- she wanted to [[DeathbedConfession confess]] this to him. Chuck may suspect this, which doesn't help his relationship with his younger (half) brother. While Jimmy hasn't inherited his real father's looks (unlike some of his other half-brothers; see above), he has inherited Don's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. He even drives a Cadillac after becoming Saul Goodman.
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Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman [[Characters/BreakingBadUniverseSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. That's why she called out Jimmy's name before she died -- she wanted to [[DeathbedConfession confess]] this to him. Chuck may suspect this, which doesn't help his relationship with his younger (half) brother. While Jimmy hasn't inherited his real father's looks (unlike some of his other half-brothers; see above), he has inherited Don's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. He even drives a Cadillac after becoming Saul Goodman.
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Jason 'Buddy' van Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime. It's hinted that he has a wife and kids who he's walked out on. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
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Jason 'Buddy' van Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime. It's hinted that he has a wife and kids who he's walked out on.on before shacking up with Darling. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
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Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. That's why she called out Jimmy's name before she died -- she wanted to [[DeathbedConfession confess]] this to him. Chuck may suspect this, which doesn't help his relationship with his younger (half) brother. While he Jimmy hasn't inherited his real father's looks (unlike some of his other half-brothers; see above), he has inherited Don's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. He even drives a Cadillac after becoming Saul Goodman.
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[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Film/BabyDriver''.]]
Jason 'Buddy' van Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
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[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Film/BabyDriver''.]]
''Film/BabyDriver'']]
Jason 'Buddy' van Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime. It's hinted that he has a wife and kids who he's walked out on. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
Jason 'Buddy' van Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime. It's hinted that he has a wife and kids who he's walked out on. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
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[[WMG: The field hospital Don was building in Korea became the [[Series/{{Mash}} 4077]].]]
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[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
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[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird from ''Series/ThirtyRock'' is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and''Series/ThirtyRock'' ''30 Rock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriverflings.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Film/BabyDriver''.]]
Jason 'Buddy' vanHorn]] who Horn is another of Don's illegitimate offspring. He has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
crime. And, of course, he looks just like his old man.
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[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Film/BabyDriver''.]]
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* {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
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* {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
murdered. The Tate-[=LaBianca=] murders are mentioned in passing, with [[TheDitz Meredith]] referring to the "Manson Brothers" and being told that it's actually the Manson ''Family''.
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[[WMG: Bob Benson is [[Anime/WolfsRain a wolf]]]]
The world of ''Mad Men'' is not actually the real 1960s but an AU version where a nuclear war breaks out between the US and USSR and the world ends, so Bob Benson is a wolf in disguise who is hanging around Madison Avenue to show people there to Paradise. Pete Campbell is a noble and Bob is pretending to be interested in him in order to keep an eye on him; Pete's mom is, too, and that's why she mysterious disappeared because Bob had to kill he for trying to open an evil version of Paradise. She was just feigning insanity. Also Joan is the Flower Maiden and this is why Bob hangs around her, also why she's so beautiful and every man wants her.
The world of ''Mad Men'' is not actually the real 1960s but an AU version where a nuclear war breaks out between the US and USSR and the world ends, so Bob Benson is a wolf in disguise who is hanging around Madison Avenue to show people there to Paradise. Pete Campbell is a noble and Bob is pretending to be interested in him in order to keep an eye on him; Pete's mom is, too, and that's why she mysterious disappeared because Bob had to kill he for trying to open an evil version of Paradise. She was just feigning insanity. Also Joan is the Flower Maiden and this is why Bob hangs around her, also why she's so beautiful and every man wants her.
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[[WMG: Bob Benson is [[Anime/WolfsRain a wolf]]]]
The world of ''Mad Men'' is not actually the real 1960s but an AU version where a nuclear war breaks out between the US and USSR and the world ends, so Bob Benson is a wolf in disguise who is hanging around Madison Avenue to show people there to Paradise. Pete Campbell is a noble and Bob is pretending to be interested in him in order to keep an eye on him; Pete's mom is, too, and that's why she mysterious disappeared because Bob had to kill he for trying to open an evil version of Paradise. She was just feigning insanity. Also Joan is the Flower Maiden and this is why Bob hangs around her, also why she's so beautiful and every man wants her.
The world of ''Mad Men'' is not actually the real 1960s but an AU version where a nuclear war breaks out between the US and USSR and the world ends, so Bob Benson is a wolf in disguise who is hanging around Madison Avenue to show people there to Paradise. Pete Campbell is a noble and Bob is pretending to be interested in him in order to keep an eye on him; Pete's mom is, too, and that's why she mysterious disappeared because Bob had to kill he for trying to open an evil version of Paradise. She was just feigning insanity. Also Joan is the Flower Maiden and this is why Bob hangs around her, also why she's so beautiful and every man wants her.
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[[WMG: The ending is the beginning]]
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surrounded by the women and alcohol shown in the sequence. He's buried in his work (the top shot with I'm falling through those pictures).
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surrounded by the women and alcohol shown in the sequence. He's buried in his work (the top shot with I'm falling through those pictures).
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
[[WMG: The guy falling in the opening sequence is no-one]]
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: "The Jumper" is a metaphor for the characters' mental states.]]
* Pretty self-explanatory. The opening sequence expresses the theme and tone of the show. Even though, they're surrounded by all this material wealth and luxury, they're in emotional, psychological, and spiritual freefall. Why would they pick an arbitrary character's suicide to be the opening theme of the series? The jumper is clearly Jon Hamm's silhouette, but that's because he's the face of the show.
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: "The Jumper" is a metaphor for the characters' mental states.]]
* Pretty self-explanatory. The opening sequence expresses the theme and tone of the show. Even though, they're surrounded by all this material wealth and luxury, they're in emotional, psychological, and spiritual freefall. Why would they pick an arbitrary character's suicide to be the opening theme of the series? The jumper is clearly Jon Hamm's silhouette, but that's because he's the face of the show.
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[[WMG: Pete's Gun will become a ChekhovsGun]]
Perhaps even using it to shoot Don, like he promised in season one.
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
[[WMG: Harry will leave the firm.]]
* Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce season 6's running theme of the past.
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** They don't have to be involved in those events. For example, with the Vietnam example, they could have Don Draper interacting with some of the draftees and volunteers, and him feeling the differences between Korea and Vietnam.
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGod is that [[http://tinyurl.com/24z6rqv she gets more to do each season because she's an actor, not because she's cute]].
*** Glenn's back in Season 4, and it looks like they're [[ToyShip pairing him with her]]. This could go lots of places; since he's played by Matthew Weiner's son, they can pretty much bring him back whenever they want without losing the actor to another project.
** There's also the amount of turning points missed, such as the civil rights movement, the barely touched upon pop art during that era, the Beatles and Rolling Stones, the radical feminists, and that they wrote out Sal mere four years before Stonewall. From this point of view, it rather seems that they are going out of their way ''not'' to touch upon the turning points.
*** Events of the Civil Rights movement are seen on TV, and Paul Kinsey travels south with his African American girlfriend Sheila to take part in the marches. Nothing much about Pop Art, granted, but boss Bert Cooper owns a Rothko. Sally and Don go to a Beatles concert, and Don gets Sally a Beatles album for Christmas. The feminist movement came later. And, let's face it, the Big Events of the 60's have become predictable. It's refreshing when a show integrates them into the characters' lives but they aren't the main focus. The big exception was the Kennedy assassination.
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how much Don's home life turns on her. While the Beatles are getting touched by her and Don connecting and it's Don who gets the stones as his power walk music. Peggy is going to be the one dealing with sexuality and feminism though.
*** Also, given the amount of mischief Sally has been getting into lately, there's still some small possibility she finds herself at Woodstock even if she is a bit young.
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.
[[WMG: Don really is going to [[{{IShouldWriteABookAboutThis}} write an autobiography.]] ]]
* Maybe he was kidding when he said it to Roger in Season 1 but after the events of all these seasons maybe he decides to use his flair for words to put his life into perspective.
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he was a "lousy student" and never wrote more than three consecutive paragraphs before in his life. On the other hand, that was when he was starting a journal, so maybe he could build from there.
Perhaps even using it to shoot Don, like he promised in season one.
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
[[WMG: Harry will leave the firm.]]
* Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce season 6's running theme of the past.
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** They don't have to be involved in those events. For example, with the Vietnam example, they could have Don Draper interacting with some of the draftees and volunteers, and him feeling the differences between Korea and Vietnam.
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGod is that [[http://tinyurl.com/24z6rqv she gets more to do each season because she's an actor, not because she's cute]].
*** Glenn's back in Season 4, and it looks like they're [[ToyShip pairing him with her]]. This could go lots of places; since he's played by Matthew Weiner's son, they can pretty much bring him back whenever they want without losing the actor to another project.
** There's also the amount of turning points missed, such as the civil rights movement, the barely touched upon pop art during that era, the Beatles and Rolling Stones, the radical feminists, and that they wrote out Sal mere four years before Stonewall. From this point of view, it rather seems that they are going out of their way ''not'' to touch upon the turning points.
*** Events of the Civil Rights movement are seen on TV, and Paul Kinsey travels south with his African American girlfriend Sheila to take part in the marches. Nothing much about Pop Art, granted, but boss Bert Cooper owns a Rothko. Sally and Don go to a Beatles concert, and Don gets Sally a Beatles album for Christmas. The feminist movement came later. And, let's face it, the Big Events of the 60's have become predictable. It's refreshing when a show integrates them into the characters' lives but they aren't the main focus. The big exception was the Kennedy assassination.
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how much Don's home life turns on her. While the Beatles are getting touched by her and Don connecting and it's Don who gets the stones as his power walk music. Peggy is going to be the one dealing with sexuality and feminism though.
*** Also, given the amount of mischief Sally has been getting into lately, there's still some small possibility she finds herself at Woodstock even if she is a bit young.
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.
[[WMG: Don really is going to [[{{IShouldWriteABookAboutThis}} write an autobiography.]] ]]
* Maybe he was kidding when he said it to Roger in Season 1 but after the events of all these seasons maybe he decides to use his flair for words to put his life into perspective.
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he was a "lousy student" and never wrote more than three consecutive paragraphs before in his life. On the other hand, that was when he was starting a journal, so maybe he could build from there.
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[[WMG:Pete's Gun will become ''Mad Men'' is a ChekhovsGun]]
Perhaps even using it{{Prequel}} to shoot Don, like he promised in season one.
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
[[WMG: Harry will leave the firm.]]
* Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce season 6's running theme of the past.
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** They don't have to be involved in those events. For example,''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'']]
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at theVietnam example, they could have Don Draper interacting with some of the draftees and volunteers, and him feeling the differences between Korea and Vietnam.
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGodhippie commune. That epiphany is that [[http://tinyurl.com/24z6rqv she gets he should form his own cult and change his identity to Reverend Wayne. By doing so, he can convince women that the Apocalypse is coming and trap them in his bunker.
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used todo each season because she's an actor, not because she's cute]].
*** Glenn'swork for Sterling Cooper back in Season 4, and it looks like they're [[ToyShip pairing him with her]]. This could go lots of places; since he's played by Matthew Weiner's son, they can pretty much bring him back whenever they want without losing the actor to another project.
**Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's also the amount certainly an element of turning points missed, such as the civil rights movement, the barely touched upon pop art during mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that era, the Beatles and Rolling Stones, the radical feminists, [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that they wrote out Sal mere four years before Stonewall. From this point of view, it rather seems that they are going the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of their way ''not'' to touch upon wedlock. He could well be the turning points.
*** Eventsresult of the Civil Rights movement are seen on TV, and Paul Kinsey travels south with his African American girlfriend Sheila to take part in the marches. Nothing much about Pop Art, granted, but boss Bert Cooper owns a Rothko. Sally and Don go to a Beatles concert, and Don gets Sally a Beatles album for Christmas. The feminist movement came later. And, let's face it, the Big Events one of the 60's have become predictable. It's refreshing when a show integrates them into the characters' lives but they aren't the main focus. The big exception was the Kennedy assassination.
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how muchDon's home many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to lifeturns on her. While the Beatles are getting touched by her and Don connecting and it's Don who gets the stones as his power walk music. Peggy is going to be the one dealing with sexuality and feminism though.
*** Also, given the amountof mischief Sally has been getting into lately, there's still some small possibility she finds herself at Woodstock even if she is a bit young.
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.crime.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'']]
Donreally is going had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to [[{{IShouldWriteABookAboutThis}} write an autobiography.]] ]]
* Maybe he was kidding when he said it to RogerChicago, resulting in Season 1 but after the events birth of all these seasons maybe [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. While he decides to use hasn't inherited his real father's looks (unlike some of his other half-brothers; see above), he has inherited Don's flair for words to put advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his life into perspective.
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he wasidentity. He even drives a "lousy student" and never wrote more than three consecutive paragraphs before in his life. On the other hand, that was when he was starting a journal, so maybe he could build from there.
Cadillac after becoming Saul Goodman.
[[WMG:
Perhaps even using it
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
[[WMG: Harry will leave the firm.]]
* Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce season 6's running theme of the past.
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** They don't have to be involved in those events. For example,
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at the
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGod
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to
*** Glenn's
**
*** Events
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how much
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life
*** Also, given the amount
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'']]
Don
* Maybe he was kidding when he said it to Roger
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he was
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[[WMG: Lane Pryce is related to [[Series/{{Angel}} Wesley]] ]]
* Or Mr. Hooker! They share a certain ineffectuality.
[[WMG: [[Series/{{Leverage}} Sterling]] is related to Roger Sterling.]]
* And inherited the DeadpanSnarker gene.
* Or Mr. Hooker! They share a certain ineffectuality.
[[WMG: [[Series/{{Leverage}} Sterling]] is related to Roger Sterling.]]
* And inherited the DeadpanSnarker gene.
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[[WMG: Lane Pryce The field hospital Don was building became the [[Series/{{Mash}} 4077]].]]
Maybe Arnie Rosen trained with Hawkeye and Trapper...
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[[WMG: Don Draper isrelated no creative genius. He gets all his information through time travel.]]
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to[[Series/{{Angel}} Wesley]] snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
[[WMG: Don really is going to [[{{IShouldWriteABookAboutThis}} write an autobiography.]] ]]
*Or Mr. Hooker! Maybe he was kidding when he said it to Roger in Season 1 but after the events of all these seasons maybe he decides to use his flair for words to put his life into perspective.
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he was a "lousy student" and never wrote more than three consecutive paragraphs before in his life. On the other hand, that was when he was starting a journal, so maybe he could build from there.
[[WMG: Don has crashed more than one car through drunk driving.]]
* In the pilot, he drives home in a 1959 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88, and two episodes later he's driving a 1960 Buick Invicta convertible, which he drives for most of the season. Then, in season two, the Dodge Polara shows up, which he crashes halfway through, and replaces it with the Cadillac.
* So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbol that he's 'made' it - which is why it was detailed when he buys it. After that, he lives in Manhattan and so doesn't drive as much.
* Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagon from the pilot until season three, when her father dies and leaves her his 1961 Lincoln Continental. She ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.]]
As he gets into his mid-40s in the late '60s he's likely to want something [[MidlifeCrisisCar sportier and more youthful]], and that '69 or '70 model (Mustang? Corvette? something European?) will be due for replacement right about the same time as the aforementioned 1973 oil crisis.
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.
* If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launch should intersect nicely with Sally's driver's license, giving them plenty of time to bond while he's giving her rides home from places the Vega he proudly presented her with took her (but failed to bring her home from).
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** Theyshare don't have to be involved in those events. For example, with the Vietnam example, they could have Don Draper interacting with some of the draftees and volunteers, and him feeling the differences between Korea and Vietnam.
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGod is that [[http://tinyurl.com/24z6rqv she gets more to do each season because she's an actor, not because she's cute]].
*** Glenn's back in Season 4, and it looks like they're [[ToyShip pairing him with her]]. This could go lots of places; since he's played by Matthew Weiner's son, they can pretty much bring him back whenever they want without losing the actor to another project.
** There's also the amount of turning points missed, such as the civil rights movement, the barely touched upon pop art during that era, the Beatles and Rolling Stones, the radical feminists, and that they wrote out Sal mere four years before Stonewall. From this point of view, it rather seems that they are going out of their way ''not'' to touch upon the turning points.
*** Events of the Civil Rights movement are seen on TV, and Paul Kinsey travels south with his African American girlfriend Sheila to take part in the marches. Nothing much about Pop Art, granted, but boss Bert Cooper owns acertain ineffectuality.Rothko. Sally and Don go to a Beatles concert, and Don gets Sally a Beatles album for Christmas. The feminist movement came later. And, let's face it, the Big Events of the 60's have become predictable. It's refreshing when a show integrates them into the characters' lives but they aren't the main focus. The big exception was the Kennedy assassination.
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how much Don's home life turns on her. While the Beatles are getting touched by her and Don connecting and it's Don who gets the stones as his power walk music. Peggy is going to be the one dealing with sexuality and feminism though.
*** Also, given the amount of mischief Sally has been getting into lately, there's still some small possibility she finds herself at Woodstock even if she is a bit young.
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.
[[WMG:[[Series/{{Leverage}} Sterling]] Don Draper is related to Roger Sterling.]]
* And inheritedD. B. Cooper]]
This is a very popular one on theDeadpanSnarker gene.
Internet. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper D. B. Cooper]]--who used the alias of ''Dan'' Cooper--famously hijacked a Boeing 727 on a flight from Portland to Seattle in November 1971, successfully got a $200,000 cash ransom, and parachuted into the wilderness, never to be seen again. He is was described as a dark-haired man in his mid-40s, clean-cut, very well-dressed, very polite, of slightly above-average height, and reasonably decent-looking. The similarities to Don are clear--maybe things ''really'' go south for him in 1970-71 and he tries to fix things by disappearing again.
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
Maybe Arnie Rosen trained with Hawkeye and Trapper...
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[[folder:Don and family]]
[[WMG: Don Draper is
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
[[WMG: Don really is going to [[{{IShouldWriteABookAboutThis}} write an autobiography.]] ]]
*
** Maybe he'll follow Roger
* In one episode, Don stated that he was a "lousy student" and never wrote more than three consecutive paragraphs before in his life. On the other hand, that was when he was starting a journal, so maybe he could build from there.
[[WMG: Don has crashed more than one car through drunk driving.]]
* In the pilot, he drives home in a 1959 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88, and two episodes later he's driving a 1960 Buick Invicta convertible, which he drives for most of the season. Then, in season two, the Dodge Polara shows up, which he crashes halfway through, and replaces it with the Cadillac.
* So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbol that he's 'made' it - which is why it was detailed when he buys it. After that, he lives in Manhattan and so doesn't drive as much.
* Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagon from the pilot until season three, when her father dies and leaves her his 1961 Lincoln Continental. She ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.]]
As he gets into his mid-40s in the late '60s he's likely to want something [[MidlifeCrisisCar sportier and more youthful]], and that '69 or '70 model (Mustang? Corvette? something European?) will be due for replacement right about the same time as the aforementioned 1973 oil crisis.
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.
* If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launch should intersect nicely with Sally's driver's license, giving them plenty of time to bond while he's giving her rides home from places the Vega he proudly presented her with took her (but failed to bring her home from).
[[WMG: The Draper kids will experience SoapOperaRapidAgingSyndrome if the series lasts past about 1967, possibly before.]]
* At their current ages, Sally will still be too young to drive when Woodstock occurs, and Bobby will still be in HighSchool when UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar [[{{Conscription}} draft]] ''ends''. The series has already shown a desire to hit on every turning point of TheSixties, thus older kids are needed.
** They
*** Less likely to happen now that Kiernan Shipka has been elevated to regular status as of Season Four. WordOfGod is that [[http://tinyurl.com/24z6rqv she gets more to do each season because she's an actor, not because she's cute]].
*** Glenn's back in Season 4, and it looks like they're [[ToyShip pairing him with her]]. This could go lots of places; since he's played by Matthew Weiner's son, they can pretty much bring him back whenever they want without losing the actor to another project.
** There's also the amount of turning points missed, such as the civil rights movement, the barely touched upon pop art during that era, the Beatles and Rolling Stones, the radical feminists, and that they wrote out Sal mere four years before Stonewall. From this point of view, it rather seems that they are going out of their way ''not'' to touch upon the turning points.
*** Events of the Civil Rights movement are seen on TV, and Paul Kinsey travels south with his African American girlfriend Sheila to take part in the marches. Nothing much about Pop Art, granted, but boss Bert Cooper owns a
*** Pretty much Jossed. They're talking Emmy nod now for Kiernan because of how much Don's home life turns on her. While the Beatles are getting touched by her and Don connecting and it's Don who gets the stones as his power walk music. Peggy is going to be the one dealing with sexuality and feminism though.
*** Also, given the amount of mischief Sally has been getting into lately, there's still some small possibility she finds herself at Woodstock even if she is a bit young.
* If anything, it worked the other way around for Bobby who, due to multiple recastings, somehow was no younger than 4 or 5 in 1960 and not yet a teenager in 1970.
[[WMG:
* And inherited
This is a very popular one on the
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
[[WMG: Dick Whitman was a criminal before going to Korea]]
We have a fairly comprehensive account of Don's (rather Dick's) life from his birth till the time he was living in his uncle's whorehouse. And we of course know about his time in Korea and how he faked his death and stole Don Draper's identity. But between these events there is a gap of around 7-8 years at least in Dick's life of which we know nothing. The bulk of [=WW2=] happened during this time-span and we know Dick wasn't drafted into it. So here's my theory to fill in the missing years.
* At some point in the early 1940s, teenage Dick came into contact with criminal elements. Either he ran away from home and joined a street gang, or he met some criminals through his uncle's prostitution business. Either way, Dick ends up becoming a criminal of some sort. He therefore manages to avoid the draft when he turns 18 (which would be in 1943 I think), either because he's underground and the authorities can't find him, or because his criminal bosses used their influence and some bribery to keep him out of the war.
* By 1950 (at latest), Dick ends up abandoning his criminal life and joining the Army to fight in Korea. There are any number of reasons why this could have happened. Maybe Dick was genuinely disgusted by what he had become and chose to turn over a new leaf. Maybe he fell out of favor with his criminal bosses or got into trouble with rival gangs and needed to get away. Maybe he was arrested and joining the Army was a way to stay out of jail. Or any other reason. Bottom line is, Dick ends up in Korea and as we know, realizes he isn't cut out to be a soldier. Then, the accident happens, and he spots a golden opportunity to not only get out of the war, but also safely return to the States without having to worry about the ghosts (real or imagined) of his criminal past catching up with him - by faking his death and stealing Don Draper's identity.
* A major part of Don's character on the show is his intense desire to divorce himself completely from his past (though as time goes by he finds that harder to do). And the possibility that he may have been a criminal as Dick Whitman gives an added layer to that aspect of his characterization. Also, it seems to me far more likely that Dick decided to start over with a fake identity for reasons beyond just wanting to get out of the war, and avoiding his 'family'.
* In the US, draft age during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was 21. Dick Whitman, who was born in 1926, wasn't drafted for WWII because he was just 19 when it ended.
* One of the photos Don gets after Adam dies shows the two of them and is dated 1944, so he was still living with, or at the very least in contact with, his family at that date.
* After he becomes Don, people ''are'' able to track him down.
** Anna finds him pretty quickly (although to be fair, she's coming at it from the opposite angle that any of Dick's supposed criminal associates would have done, ie. she's looking for Don Draper as opposed to Dick Whitman).
** Adam finds him years later simply by recognising him in a newspaper photo. If he can do that, surely any supposed criminal associates would be able to do likewise?
[[WMG: Don will die of emphysema or lung cancer.]]
Aside from the obviously prominent role cigarettes have played in the show from the pilot on, there seem to be a lot of non sequitur shots of Don coughing over the course of the series.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Betty's the one who gets diagnosed with cancer.]]
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[[folder:Pete and family]]
[[WMG: Pete's Gun will become a ChekhovsGun]]
Perhaps even using it to shoot Don, like he promised in season one.
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
We have a fairly comprehensive account of Don's (rather Dick's) life from his birth till the time he was living in his uncle's whorehouse. And we of course know about his time in Korea and how he faked his death and stole Don Draper's identity. But between these events there is a gap of around 7-8 years at least in Dick's life of which we know nothing. The bulk of [=WW2=] happened during this time-span and we know Dick wasn't drafted into it. So here's my theory to fill in the missing years.
* At some point in the early 1940s, teenage Dick came into contact with criminal elements. Either he ran away from home and joined a street gang, or he met some criminals through his uncle's prostitution business. Either way, Dick ends up becoming a criminal of some sort. He therefore manages to avoid the draft when he turns 18 (which would be in 1943 I think), either because he's underground and the authorities can't find him, or because his criminal bosses used their influence and some bribery to keep him out of the war.
* By 1950 (at latest), Dick ends up abandoning his criminal life and joining the Army to fight in Korea. There are any number of reasons why this could have happened. Maybe Dick was genuinely disgusted by what he had become and chose to turn over a new leaf. Maybe he fell out of favor with his criminal bosses or got into trouble with rival gangs and needed to get away. Maybe he was arrested and joining the Army was a way to stay out of jail. Or any other reason. Bottom line is, Dick ends up in Korea and as we know, realizes he isn't cut out to be a soldier. Then, the accident happens, and he spots a golden opportunity to not only get out of the war, but also safely return to the States without having to worry about the ghosts (real or imagined) of his criminal past catching up with him - by faking his death and stealing Don Draper's identity.
* A major part of Don's character on the show is his intense desire to divorce himself completely from his past (though as time goes by he finds that harder to do). And the possibility that he may have been a criminal as Dick Whitman gives an added layer to that aspect of his characterization. Also, it seems to me far more likely that Dick decided to start over with a fake identity for reasons beyond just wanting to get out of the war, and avoiding his 'family'.
* In the US, draft age during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was 21. Dick Whitman, who was born in 1926, wasn't drafted for WWII because he was just 19 when it ended.
* One of the photos Don gets after Adam dies shows the two of them and is dated 1944, so he was still living with, or at the very least in contact with, his family at that date.
* After he becomes Don, people ''are'' able to track him down.
** Anna finds him pretty quickly (although to be fair, she's coming at it from the opposite angle that any of Dick's supposed criminal associates would have done, ie. she's looking for Don Draper as opposed to Dick Whitman).
** Adam finds him years later simply by recognising him in a newspaper photo. If he can do that, surely any supposed criminal associates would be able to do likewise?
[[WMG: Don will die of emphysema or lung cancer.]]
Aside from the obviously prominent role cigarettes have played in the show from the pilot on, there seem to be a lot of non sequitur shots of Don coughing over the course of the series.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Betty's the one who gets diagnosed with cancer.]]
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[[folder:Pete and family]]
[[WMG: Pete's Gun will become a ChekhovsGun]]
Perhaps even using it to shoot Don, like he promised in season one.
* Jossed. He doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
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[[WMG: The early '70s were/will be lean years for SCDP.]]
* The bad days will begin when cigarettes are banned from advertising on US TV in 1970 and end when the first Honda Civic debuts into the 1974 oil crisis. Since Lucky Strike is Sterling's pet account and Honda is Campbell's, this will set up a very interesting dynamic to watch.
** The basics of this may still happen, but as of the most recent episode Lucky Strike has dumped SCDP setting the lean years up in the mid 60's.
** Also, the Honda Civic is precisely the car account you would ''want to have'' going into the oil crisis. SCDP's execs viewing the Civic account as a mere consolation prize is a case of ItWillNeverCatchOn, and possibly foreshadowing if indeed the show's story takes the firm into the 70s. Between quitting tobacco ahead of the rest of the industry and landing a fuel-efficient economy car account a decade before the oil crisis, SCDP is poised for a huge comeback in the 70s.
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
[[WMG: Samsonite=alcoholism for the ''Mad Men'' writers.]]
* Thus far, of course, we only have the evidence of "Six Months' Leave" and "The Suitcase," but it is kind of interesting that two episodes that deal with alcoholism also involve Samsonite in some major way. "Six Months' Leave" is kicked off by Freddy Rumsen passing out and pissing himself during a pitch to Samsonite, and "The Suitcase," which showcases the beginnings of Don's inevitable alcoholism (the puking should be a clue) and the depths of Duck's (every time he shows up), as well as mentioning how Freddy is now that he's joined AA (Roger isn't pleased), gets ''its'' start with Don and Peggy working late on the Samsonite campaign.
* The bad days will begin when cigarettes are banned from advertising on US TV in 1970 and end when the first Honda Civic debuts into the 1974 oil crisis. Since Lucky Strike is Sterling's pet account and Honda is Campbell's, this will set up a very interesting dynamic to watch.
** The basics of this may still happen, but as of the most recent episode Lucky Strike has dumped SCDP setting the lean years up in the mid 60's.
** Also, the Honda Civic is precisely the car account you would ''want to have'' going into the oil crisis. SCDP's execs viewing the Civic account as a mere consolation prize is a case of ItWillNeverCatchOn, and possibly foreshadowing if indeed the show's story takes the firm into the 70s. Between quitting tobacco ahead of the rest of the industry and landing a fuel-efficient economy car account a decade before the oil crisis, SCDP is poised for a huge comeback in the 70s.
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
[[WMG: Samsonite=alcoholism for the ''Mad Men'' writers.]]
* Thus far, of course, we only have the evidence of "Six Months' Leave" and "The Suitcase," but it is kind of interesting that two episodes that deal with alcoholism also involve Samsonite in some major way. "Six Months' Leave" is kicked off by Freddy Rumsen passing out and pissing himself during a pitch to Samsonite, and "The Suitcase," which showcases the beginnings of Don's inevitable alcoholism (the puking should be a clue) and the depths of Duck's (every time he shows up), as well as mentioning how Freddy is now that he's joined AA (Roger isn't pleased), gets ''its'' start with Don and Peggy working late on the Samsonite campaign.
to:
[[WMG: The early '70s were/will be lean years for SCDP.]]
* The bad daysPete and Trudy are [[Series/{{Community}} Annie Edison's]] grandparents]]
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: Pete Campbell is going to leave SC&P at the end of Season 6]]
Okay, here's my actually serious theory. I think this is the most likely "bomb that willbegin when cigarettes are banned be dropped" of all the theories floating around right now. We've seen him meet with Duck to "discuss his options." He's clearly dissatisfied, about the name and about everything else, and seems to be the only person from SCDP who realizes what Cutler is trying to do in terms of slowly taking over the firm and filling it with their guys. Who knows, maybe he'll even quit advertising on US TV altogether. But he's clearly at a stand-still in 1970 his life, and he seems about to do something rash. Him smoking the joint at the end when of "A Tale of Two Cities" seems like symbolism in terms of being an act of defiance against the first Honda Civic debuts into the 1974 oil crisis. Since Lucky Strike is Sterling's pet account system of SC&P.
* {{Jossed}}. He stays with SC&P andHonda is Campbell's, this works for [=McCann=] in Season 7B post-takeover, only to be headhunted by Learjet.
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[[folder:Megan]]
[[WMG:Megan willset up a very interesting dynamic to watch.
** The basicsbecome pregnant, and then get murdered]]
I speak ofthis may still happen, but as course of the most recent episode Lucky Strike has dumped SCDP setting the lean "Megan is Creator/SharonTate" fan theory, which came about during Season 6 after Megan was shown wearing a tee-shirt with a red start on it, similar to one worn by Ms. Tate for a photo-shoot two years up before before her murder. Don hallucinating about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the mid 60's.madness.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".
** Also, the Honda Civic * {{Jossed}}. Although she is precisely the car account you would ''want to have'' going into the oil crisis. SCDP's execs viewing the Civic account as a mere consolation prize is a case of ItWillNeverCatchOn, in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and possibly foreshadowing if indeed the show's story takes the firm into the 70s. Between quitting tobacco ahead of the rest of the industry and landing a fuel-efficient economy car account a decade before the oil crisis, SCDP is poised for a huge comeback in the 70s.
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
[[WMG: Samsonite=alcoholism for the ''Mad Men'' writers.]]
* Thus far, of course, we only have the evidence of "Six Months' Leave" and "The Suitcase," but it is kind of interesting that two episodes that deal with alcoholism also involve Samsonite in some major way. "Six Months' Leave" is kicked off by Freddy Rumsen passing out and pissing himself during a pitch to Samsonite, and "The Suitcase," which showcases the beginnings of Don's inevitable alcoholism (the puking should be a clue) and the depths of Duck's (every time he shows up), as well as mentioning how Freddy is now that he's joined AA (Roger isn't pleased), gets ''its'' start with Don and Peggy working late on the Samsonite campaign.
nor does she get murdered.
* The bad days
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: Pete Campbell is going to leave SC&P at the end of Season 6]]
Okay, here's my actually serious theory. I think this is the most likely "bomb that will
* {{Jossed}}. He stays with SC&P and
[[/folder]]
[[folder:Megan]]
[[WMG:Megan will
** The basics
I speak of
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
[[WMG: Samsonite=alcoholism for the ''Mad Men'' writers.]]
* Thus far, of course, we only have the evidence of "Six Months' Leave" and "The Suitcase," but it is kind of interesting that two episodes that deal with alcoholism also involve Samsonite in some major way. "Six Months' Leave" is kicked off by Freddy Rumsen passing out and pissing himself during a pitch to Samsonite, and "The Suitcase," which showcases the beginnings of Don's inevitable alcoholism (the puking should be a clue) and the depths of Duck's (every time he shows up), as well as mentioning how Freddy is now that he's joined AA (Roger isn't pleased), gets ''its'' start with Don and Peggy working late on the Samsonite campaign.
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[[WMG: The ending is the beginning]]
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surrounded by the women and alcohol shown in the sequence. He's buried in his work (the top shot with I'm falling through those pictures).
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
[[WMG: The guy falling in the opening sequence is no-one]]
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There's no way they're going to miss out on a Robert Morse CastingGag.
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
[[WMG: After Bert quits, the company will now be Sterling ''Campbell'' Draper Pryce]]
With Bert gone, they don't even have to change the initials. Additionally, Ken Cosgrove and Harry Crane might be added as partners.
* Bert seems to have changed his mind about leaving in between Seasons 4 and 5.
[[WMG: Pete and Trudy are [[Series/{{Community}} Annie Edison's]] grandparents]]
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.]]
As he gets into his mid-40s in the late '60s he's likely to want something [[MidlifeCrisisCar sportier and more youthful]], and that '69 or '70 model (Mustang? Corvette? something European?) will be due for replacement right about the same time as the aforementioned 1973 oil crisis.
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.\\
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If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launch should intersect nicely with Sally's driver's license, giving them plenty of time to bond while he's giving her rides home from places the Vega he proudly presented her with took her (but failed to bring her home from).
[[WMG: Don Draper is no creative genius. He gets all his information through time travel.]]
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surrounded by the women and alcohol shown in the sequence. He's buried in his work (the top shot with I'm falling through those pictures).
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
[[WMG: The guy falling in the opening sequence is no-one]]
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There's no way they're going to miss out on a Robert Morse CastingGag.
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
[[WMG: After Bert quits, the company will now be Sterling ''Campbell'' Draper Pryce]]
With Bert gone, they don't even have to change the initials. Additionally, Ken Cosgrove and Harry Crane might be added as partners.
* Bert seems to have changed his mind about leaving in between Seasons 4 and 5.
[[WMG: Pete and Trudy are [[Series/{{Community}} Annie Edison's]] grandparents]]
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.]]
As he gets into his mid-40s in the late '60s he's likely to want something [[MidlifeCrisisCar sportier and more youthful]], and that '69 or '70 model (Mustang? Corvette? something European?) will be due for replacement right about the same time as the aforementioned 1973 oil crisis.
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.\\
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If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launch should intersect nicely with Sally's driver's license, giving them plenty of time to bond while he's giving her rides home from places the Vega he proudly presented her with took her (but failed to bring her home from).
[[WMG: Don Draper is no creative genius. He gets all his information through time travel.]]
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
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[[folder:Ken]]
[[WMG: Theending show is the beginning]]
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surroundeda novel written by the women and alcohol shown in the sequence. He's buried in his work (the top shot with I'm falling through those pictures).
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
[[WMG: The guy falling in the opening sequence is no-one]]
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There's no way they're going to miss out on a Robert Morse CastingGag.
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
[[WMG: After Bert quits, the company will now be Sterling ''Campbell'' Draper Pryce]]
With Bert gone, they don't even have to change the initials. Additionally,Ken Cosgrove and Harry Crane might be added as partners.
* Bert seems to have changed his mind about leaving in between Seasons 4 and 5.
[[WMG: Pete and Trudy are [[Series/{{Community}} Annie Edison's]] grandparents]]
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.Cosgrove.]]
As he gets into He's an award-winning writer who seems to exist on the periphery of the story, yet seems to know everything. Every character on the show has a transgressive double life. Ken's perceived transgression by the rest of the characters at the office is his mid-40s in the late '60s he's likely writing. When he is found out, he goes from writing science fiction stories under one pen name, to want something [[MidlifeCrisisCar sportier and writing stories that more youthful]], resembled literary fiction. In the final episode, it will turn out that everything we see was written by Ken, with his author's voice being someone sort of on the periphery, like Nick in Literature/TheGreatGatsby.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that'69 or '70 model (Mustang? Corvette? something European?) will be due for replacement right about the same time as the aforementioned 1973 oil crisis.
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.\\
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If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launchKen should intersect nicely with Sally's driver's license, giving them plenty of time to bond while he's giving her rides home from places the Vega he proudly presented her with took her (but failed to bring her home from).
[[WMG: Don Draper is no creative genius. He gets all his information through time travel.]]
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
focus on an adventure story instead.
[[folder:Ken]]
[[WMG: The
* The ending is the beginning sort of deal. Don jumps out of His office (suicide). He falls apart surrounded
And that iconic shot of him smoking in a couch? Shout out to the painting of The Death of Marat w/ a POV from the back and flipped vertically. Just as Marat tends to his chronic condition in a tub, Don tends to his alcoholism, womanizing, smoking and vices at work in that couch. And both die in their respective healing atmospheres (tub/couch).
[[WMG: The guy falling in the opening sequence is no-one]]
* It's purely symbolic of their lives falling apart, not a specific allusion to someone attempting suicide.
* It's mentioned off-hand in one of the commentaries that one of the junior executive characters (likely Harry Crane) was going to jump off the SC building early on, but the writers decided they liked the cast too much to do it, turning the credits into TheArtifact.
[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There's no way they're going to miss out on a Robert Morse CastingGag.
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
[[WMG: After Bert quits, the company will now be Sterling ''Campbell'' Draper Pryce]]
With Bert gone, they don't even have to change the initials. Additionally,
* Bert seems to have changed his mind about leaving in between Seasons 4 and 5.
[[WMG: Pete and Trudy are [[Series/{{Community}} Annie Edison's]] grandparents]]
Per [[http://fucknojezebel.tumblr.com/post/21244440984/this-is-my-favorite-ever#notes this Jezebel comment]]
[[WMG: The silver/red interior [[CoolCar '65 Coupe de Ville]] is Don's last Cadillac, for a while at least.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that
* Don doesn't seem like the type to buy a pony car or a sports car, perhaps a Nova coupe. Nothing fancy, but Novas made decent muscle cars. If the Oil Crisis is a big concern, they were also available with four and six cylinder engines. And even then, he seems more likely to drive luxury cars by this point.\\
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If anything, he's more likely to buy an Eldorado or a Tornado when he decides to replace his De Ville (probably around 1968 based on how long he seems to own cars).
* With a Chevy account, a Corvette maybe? Plus the Chevy Vega launch
[[WMG: Don Draper is no creative genius. He gets all his information through time travel.]]
The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
* Could be that Anna's place in California is in [[Film/BackToTheFuture Hill Valley]]. If Don had been out visiting her in 1955, maybe he encountered Marty and the Doc?
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[[WMG: Don has crashed more than one car through drunk driving.]]
In the pilot, he drives home in a 1959 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88, and two episodes later he's driving a 1960 Buick Invicta convertible, which he drives for most of the season. Then, in season two, the Dodge Polara shows up, which he crashes halfway through, and replaces it with the Cadillac.
Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagon from the pilot until season three, when her father dies and leaves her his 1961 Lincoln Continental.
So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbol that he's 'made' it - which is why it was detailed when he buys it.
* Betty ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
In the pilot, he drives home in a 1959 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88, and two episodes later he's driving a 1960 Buick Invicta convertible, which he drives for most of the season. Then, in season two, the Dodge Polara shows up, which he crashes halfway through, and replaces it with the Cadillac.
Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagon from the pilot until season three, when her father dies and leaves her his 1961 Lincoln Continental.
So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbol that he's 'made' it - which is why it was detailed when he buys it.
* Betty ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
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[[WMG: Don has crashed more than one car through drunk driving.Ken Cosgrove will Film/EscapeFromNewYork.]]
In [[Film/EscapeFromLA Or LA]], either works with the pilot, he drives home show.
* There's a lot of creative (graphic design in particular) based in Burlington these days thanks to a1959 Oldsmobile Dynamic 88, and two episodes later strong design major offering at Champlain College, maybe in the show Ken [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble will have had]] something to do with that.
[[WMG: Ken isn't blind under the eyepatch.]]
That's right, he'sdriving a 1960 Buick Invicta convertible, which he drives for most of pulling the season. Then, old [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake in season two, the Dodge Polara shows up, which he crashes halfway through, and replaces it with the Cadillac.
Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagonMGS4]] on us. He was crying from the pilot until season three, when her father dies and leaves her his 1961 Lincoln Continental.
So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbolit in Season 6. Who knows what's under that patch?
* Jossed, as Cynthia clearly states that he's'made' it - which is why it was detailed when he buys it.
* Betty ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
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[[folder:Bob Benson]]
* There's a lot of creative (graphic design in particular) based in Burlington these days thanks to a
[[WMG: Ken isn't blind under the eyepatch.]]
That's right, he's
Betty, meanwhile, drove a 1957 Ford Country Sedan station wagon
So, the reason those cars disappeared without explaination is Don crashed them. The Cadillac is a turning point - it's a symbol
* Jossed, as Cynthia clearly states that he's
* Betty ''did'' have a newer wagon - [[http://imcdb.org/vehicle_283139-Mercury-Colony-Park-1962.html a 1962 Mercury Colony Park]] - but only briefly before inheriting the Lincoln. Not that that affects the point.
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[[WMG:Megan will become pregnant, and then get murdered]]
I speak of course of the "Megan is Creator/SharonTate" fan theory, which came about during Season 6 after Megan was shown wearing a tee-shirt with a red start on it, similar to one worn by Ms. Tate for a photo-shoot two years before before her murder. Don hallucinating about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the madness.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".
* {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
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[[WMG: Pete Campbell is going to leave SC&P at the end of Season 6]]
Okay, here's my actually serious theory. I think this is the most likely "bomb that will be dropped" of all the theories floating around right now. We've seen him meet with Duck to "discuss his options." He's clearly dissatisfied, about the name and about everything else, and seems to be the only person from SCDP who realizes what Cutler is trying to do in terms of slowly taking over the firm and filling it with their guys. Who knows, maybe he'll even quit advertising altogether. But he's clearly at a stand-still in his life, and he seems about to do something rash. Him smoking the joint at the end of "A Tale of Two Cities" seems like symbolism in terms of being an act of defiance against the system of SC&P.
Okay, here's my actually serious theory. I think this is the most likely "bomb that will be dropped" of all the theories floating around right now. We've seen him meet with Duck to "discuss his options." He's clearly dissatisfied, about the name and about everything else, and seems to be the only person from SCDP who realizes what Cutler is trying to do in terms of slowly taking over the firm and filling it with their guys. Who knows, maybe he'll even quit advertising altogether. But he's clearly at a stand-still in his life, and he seems about to do something rash. Him smoking the joint at the end of "A Tale of Two Cities" seems like symbolism in terms of being an act of defiance against the system of SC&P.
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* [[spoiler:Sort of confirmed. He's not Abagnale, but he's someone very much like him -- he's bluffed his way into a job he's completely unqualified for and has been relying on his charm to prevent anyone from finding out.]]
[[WMG: The show is a novel written by Ken Cosgrove.]]
He's an award-winning writer who seems to exist on the periphery of the story, yet seems to know everything. Every character on the show has a transgressive double life. Ken's perceived transgression by the rest of the characters at the office is his writing. When he is found out, he goes from writing science fiction stories under one pen name, to writing stories that more resembled literary fiction. In the final episode, it will turn out that everything we see was written by Ken, with his author's voice being someone sort of on the periphery, like Nick in Literature/TheGreatGatsby.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that Ken should focus on an adventure story instead.
[[WMG: People who accuse Weiner of creating Glen as a walk-on for his son have it exactly backwards.]]
He knew all along that he'd want Glen for a few scenes once a season or so. Casting his son who doesn't act in anything else meant he'd have someone who was always available and wouldn't need to find another kid and reintroduce the character [[TheOtherDarrin with a different actor]] every time.
[[WMG: The show is a novel written by Ken Cosgrove.]]
He's an award-winning writer who seems to exist on the periphery of the story, yet seems to know everything. Every character on the show has a transgressive double life. Ken's perceived transgression by the rest of the characters at the office is his writing. When he is found out, he goes from writing science fiction stories under one pen name, to writing stories that more resembled literary fiction. In the final episode, it will turn out that everything we see was written by Ken, with his author's voice being someone sort of on the periphery, like Nick in Literature/TheGreatGatsby.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that Ken should focus on an adventure story instead.
[[WMG: People who accuse Weiner of creating Glen as a walk-on for his son have it exactly backwards.]]
He knew all along that he'd want Glen for a few scenes once a season or so. Casting his son who doesn't act in anything else meant he'd have someone who was always available and wouldn't need to find another kid and reintroduce the character [[TheOtherDarrin with a different actor]] every time.
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* [[spoiler:Sort Sort of confirmed. He's not Abagnale, but he's someone very much like him -- he's bluffed his way into a job he's completely unqualified for and has been relying on his charm to prevent anyone from finding out.]]
[[WMG: The show is a novel written by Ken Cosgrove.]]
He's an award-winning writer who seems to exist on the periphery of the story, yet seems to know everything. Every character on the show has a transgressive double life. Ken's perceived transgression by the rest of the characters at the office is his writing. When he is found out, he goes from writing science fiction stories under one pen name, to writing stories that more resembled literary fiction. In the final episode, it will turn out that everything we see was written by Ken, with his author's voice being someone sort of on the periphery, like Nick in Literature/TheGreatGatsby.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that Ken should focus on an adventure story instead.
[[WMG: People who accuse Weiner of creating Glen as a walk-on for his son have it exactly backwards.]]
He knew all along that he'd want Glen for a few scenes once a season or so. Casting his son who doesn't act in anything else meant he'd have someone who was always available and wouldn't need to find another kid and reintroduce the character [[TheOtherDarrin with a different actor]] every time.
out.
[[WMG: The show is a novel written by Ken Cosgrove.]]
He's an award-winning writer who seems to exist on the periphery of the story, yet seems to know everything. Every character on the show has a transgressive double life. Ken's perceived transgression by the rest of the characters at the office is his writing. When he is found out, he goes from writing science fiction stories under one pen name, to writing stories that more resembled literary fiction. In the final episode, it will turn out that everything we see was written by Ken, with his author's voice being someone sort of on the periphery, like Nick in Literature/TheGreatGatsby.
* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that Ken should focus on an adventure story instead.
[[WMG: People who accuse Weiner of creating Glen as a walk-on for his son have it exactly backwards.]]
He knew all along that he'd want Glen for a few scenes once a season or so. Casting his son who doesn't act in anything else meant he'd have someone who was always available and wouldn't need to find another kid and reintroduce the character [[TheOtherDarrin with a different actor]] every time.
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[[WMG: Don Draper is D. B. Cooper]]
This is a very popular one on the Internet. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper D. B. Cooper]]--who used the alias of ''Dan'' Cooper--famously hijacked a Boeing 727 on a flight from Portland to Seattle in November 1971, successfully got a $200,000 cash ransom, and parachuted into the wilderness, never to be seen again. He is was described as a dark-haired man in his mid-40s, clean-cut, very well-dressed, very polite, of slightly above-average height, and reasonably decent-looking. The similarities to Don are clear--maybe things ''really'' go south for him in 1970-71 and he tries to fix things by disappearing again.
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
[[WMG: The very final story arc will in some (probably major) way feature the Moon Landing]]
The final season plays in 1969. The show has always interwoven historical events of the time period with its plot and this is just too perfect to be wasted in some obvious "Let's give all our ad campaigns a space theme!" side story.
* In his last great act of impersonation Don Draper IS Neil Armstrong!
* The moon landing takes place during the Season 7A finale, "Waterloo", where it plays a significant role.
This is a very popular one on the Internet. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper D. B. Cooper]]--who used the alias of ''Dan'' Cooper--famously hijacked a Boeing 727 on a flight from Portland to Seattle in November 1971, successfully got a $200,000 cash ransom, and parachuted into the wilderness, never to be seen again. He is was described as a dark-haired man in his mid-40s, clean-cut, very well-dressed, very polite, of slightly above-average height, and reasonably decent-looking. The similarities to Don are clear--maybe things ''really'' go south for him in 1970-71 and he tries to fix things by disappearing again.
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
[[WMG: The very final story arc will in some (probably major) way feature the Moon Landing]]
The final season plays in 1969. The show has always interwoven historical events of the time period with its plot and this is just too perfect to be wasted in some obvious "Let's give all our ad campaigns a space theme!" side story.
* In his last great act of impersonation Don Draper IS Neil Armstrong!
* The moon landing takes place during the Season 7A finale, "Waterloo", where it plays a significant role.
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[[WMG:Don Draper Joan was in Marshall [=McLuhan's=] class in Canada when he said "the medium is D. B. Cooper]]
This is a very popular one onthe Internet. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper D. B. Cooper]]--who used the alias of ''Dan'' Cooper--famously hijacked a Boeing 727 on a flight from Portland to Seattle in November 1971, successfully got a $200,000 cash ransom, and parachuted into the wilderness, never to be seen again. He is was described as a dark-haired man message".]]
Otherwise, how would she know that phrase before he published it in hismid-40s, clean-cut, very well-dressed, very polite, of slightly above-average height, and reasonably decent-looking. 1964 treatise ''Understanding Media: The similarities to Don are clear--maybe things ''really'' go south for him in 1970-71 and he tries to fix things by disappearing again.
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
Extensions of Man''?
[[WMG:The very final story arc Harry will in some (probably major) way feature leave the Moon Landing]]
The finalfirm.]]
Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce seasonplays in 1969. The show has always interwoven historical events 6's running theme of the time period with its plot past.
* {{Jossed}}. He's at SC&P right up to the [=McCann=] takeover, andthis is just too perfect to be wasted in some obvious "Let's give all our ad campaigns a space theme!" side story.
* In hislast great act of impersonation Don Draper IS Neil Armstrong!
* The moon landing takes place duringseen working for the Season 7A finale, "Waterloo", where it plays latter.
[[WMG: Lane Pryce is related to [[Series/{{Angel}} Wesley]] ]]
Or Mr. Hooker! They share asignificant role.
certain ineffectuality.
[[WMG: [[Series/{{Leverage}} Sterling]] is related to Roger Sterling.]]
And inherited the DeadpanSnarker gene.
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[[WMG:
This is a very popular one on
Otherwise, how would she know that phrase before he published it in his
* Or, if the show ends before 1971, they will show him in France reading a ''ComicBook/DanCooper'' novel (the official FBI theory is his alias and plot came from the French language comics).
[[WMG:
The final
Tensions between Harry and the partners are at a high point as of seaon 6, episode 4, to a point where he even threatened to leave if Joan fired one of his employees. Peggy doesn't need the extra muscle, but Harry letting go of SCDP and joining the hip young firm it would reinforce season
* {{Jossed}}. He's at SC&P right up to the [=McCann=] takeover, and
* In his
* The moon landing takes place during
[[WMG: Lane Pryce is related to [[Series/{{Angel}} Wesley]] ]]
Or Mr. Hooker! They share a
[[WMG: [[Series/{{Leverage}} Sterling]] is related to Roger Sterling.]]
And inherited the DeadpanSnarker gene.
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[[WMG: Ken Cosgrove will Film/EscapeFromNewYork.]]
[[Film/EscapeFromLA Or LA]], either works with the show.
* There's a lot of creative (graphic design in particular) based in Burlington these days thanks to a strong design major offering at Champlain College, maybe in the show Ken [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble will have had]] something to do with that.
[[Film/EscapeFromLA Or LA]], either works with the show.
* There's a lot of creative (graphic design in particular) based in Burlington these days thanks to a strong design major offering at Champlain College, maybe in the show Ken [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble will have had]] something to do with that.
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[[WMG: Ken Cosgrove will Film/EscapeFromNewYork.When Ted Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...]]
[[Film/EscapeFromLA Or LA]], either works with Having heard that Don had run off and was in trouble he raced off, got Don's call to [=McCann=] traced, and flew off in his plane to Big Sur to save him.
[[WMG: Harry Crane will go on to be [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Cyril Figgis]].]]
They look similar, theshow.
*characters are similar, Rich Sommer even sounds like Chris Parnell. Finally, the median time period for Archer, based on its anachronisms, is somewhere in the mid-70s approximately after Mad Men ends.
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[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There'sa lot of creative (graphic design in particular) based in Burlington these days thanks no way they're going to miss out on a strong design major offering at Champlain College, maybe in Robert Morse CastingGag.
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to theshow Ken [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble will have had]] something to do with that.
cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
[[WMG: Harry Crane will go on to be [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Cyril Figgis]].]]
They look similar, the
*
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[[folder:Plot predictions (including season finales)]]
[[WMG: In Season 5, the cast will go see ''Theatre/HowToSucceedInBusinessWithoutReallyTrying'']]
The movie came out in 1967; Season 4 ended in 1965, so Season 5 will start at least half a year later. There's
* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the
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[[WMG: Ken isn't blind under the eyepatch.]]
That's right, he's pulling the old [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake in MGS4]] on us. He was crying from it in Season 6. Who knows what's under that patch.
[[WMG: Joan was in Marshall [=McLuhan's=] class in Canada when he said "The Medium is the message".]]
Otherwise, how would she know that phrase before he published it in his 1964 treatise ''Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man''?
[[WMG: The field hospital Don was building became the [[Series/{{Mash}} 4077]].]]
Or maybe it was the one that Arnie Rosen was at.
[[WMG: Dick Whitman was a criminal before going to Korea]]
We have a fairly comprehensive account of Don's (rather Dick's) life from his birth till the time he was living in his uncle's whorehouse. And we of course know about his time in Korea and how he faked his death and stole Don Draper's identity. But between these events there is a gap of around 7-8 years at least in Dick's life of which we know nothing. The bulk of [=WW2=] happened during this time-span and we know Dick wasn't drafted into it. So here's my theory to fill in the missing years.
At some point in the early 1940s, teenage Dick came into contact with criminal elements. Either he ran away from home and joined a street gang, or he met some criminals through his uncle's prostitution business. Either way, Dick ends up becoming a criminal of some sort. He therefore manages to avoid the draft when he turns 18 (which would be in 1943 I think), either because he's underground and the authorities can't find him, or because his criminal bosses used their influence and some bribery to keep him out of the war.
By 1950 (at latest), Dick ends up abandoning his criminal life and joining the Army to fight in Korea. There are any number of reasons why this could have happened. Maybe Dick was genuinely disgusted by what he had become and chose to turn over a new leaf. Maybe he fell out of favor with his criminal bosses or got into trouble with rival gangs and needed to get away. Maybe he was arrested and joining the Army was a way to stay out of jail. Or any other reason. Bottom line is, Dick ends up in Korea and as we know, realizes he isn't cut out to be a soldier. Then, the accident happens, and he spots a golden opportunity to not only get out of the war, but also safely return to the States without having to worry about the ghosts (real or imagined) of his criminal past catching up with him - by faking his death and stealing Don Draper's identity.
A major part of Don's character on the show is his intense desire to divorce himself completely from his past (though as time goes by he finds that harder to do). And the possibility that he may have been a criminal as Dick Whitman gives an added layer to that aspect of his characterization. Also, it seems to me far more likely that Dick decided to start over with a fake identity for reasons beyond just wanting to get out of the war, and avoiding his 'family'.
* In the US, draft age during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was 21. Dick Whitman, who was born in 1926, wasn't drafted for WWII because he was just 19 when it ended.
* One of the photos Don gets after Adam dies shows the two of them and is dated 1944, so he was still living with, or at the very least in contact with, his family at that date.
* After he becomes Don, people ''are'' able to track him down.
** Anna finds him pretty quickly (although to be fair, she's coming at it from the opposite angle that any of Dick's supposed criminal associates would have done, ie. she's looking for Don Draper as opposed to Dick Whitman).
** Adam finds him years later simply by recognising him in a newspaper photo. If he can do that, surely any supposed criminal associates would be able to do likewise?
[[WMG: "The Jumper" is a metaphor for the characters' mental states.]]
* Pretty self-explanatory. The opening sequence expresses the theme and tone of the show. Even though, they're surrounded by all this material wealth and luxury, they're in emotional, psychological, and spiritual freefall. Why would they pick an arbitrary character's suicide to be the opening theme of the series? The jumper is clearly Jon Hamm's silhouette, but that's because he's the face of Mad Men.
[[WMG: Don will die of emphysema or lung cancer.]]
Aside from the obviously prominent role cigarettes have played in the show from the pilot on, there seem to be a lot of non sequitur shots of Don coughing over the course of the series.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Betty's the one who gets diagnosed with cancer.]]
[[WMG: The series will end with Dick Whitman abandoning his life as Donald Draper and creating a new identity]]
That's right, he's pulling the old [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake in MGS4]] on us. He was crying from it in Season 6. Who knows what's under that patch.
[[WMG: Joan was in Marshall [=McLuhan's=] class in Canada when he said "The Medium is the message".]]
Otherwise, how would she know that phrase before he published it in his 1964 treatise ''Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man''?
[[WMG: The field hospital Don was building became the [[Series/{{Mash}} 4077]].]]
Or maybe it was the one that Arnie Rosen was at.
[[WMG: Dick Whitman was a criminal before going to Korea]]
We have a fairly comprehensive account of Don's (rather Dick's) life from his birth till the time he was living in his uncle's whorehouse. And we of course know about his time in Korea and how he faked his death and stole Don Draper's identity. But between these events there is a gap of around 7-8 years at least in Dick's life of which we know nothing. The bulk of [=WW2=] happened during this time-span and we know Dick wasn't drafted into it. So here's my theory to fill in the missing years.
At some point in the early 1940s, teenage Dick came into contact with criminal elements. Either he ran away from home and joined a street gang, or he met some criminals through his uncle's prostitution business. Either way, Dick ends up becoming a criminal of some sort. He therefore manages to avoid the draft when he turns 18 (which would be in 1943 I think), either because he's underground and the authorities can't find him, or because his criminal bosses used their influence and some bribery to keep him out of the war.
By 1950 (at latest), Dick ends up abandoning his criminal life and joining the Army to fight in Korea. There are any number of reasons why this could have happened. Maybe Dick was genuinely disgusted by what he had become and chose to turn over a new leaf. Maybe he fell out of favor with his criminal bosses or got into trouble with rival gangs and needed to get away. Maybe he was arrested and joining the Army was a way to stay out of jail. Or any other reason. Bottom line is, Dick ends up in Korea and as we know, realizes he isn't cut out to be a soldier. Then, the accident happens, and he spots a golden opportunity to not only get out of the war, but also safely return to the States without having to worry about the ghosts (real or imagined) of his criminal past catching up with him - by faking his death and stealing Don Draper's identity.
A major part of Don's character on the show is his intense desire to divorce himself completely from his past (though as time goes by he finds that harder to do). And the possibility that he may have been a criminal as Dick Whitman gives an added layer to that aspect of his characterization. Also, it seems to me far more likely that Dick decided to start over with a fake identity for reasons beyond just wanting to get out of the war, and avoiding his 'family'.
* In the US, draft age during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII was 21. Dick Whitman, who was born in 1926, wasn't drafted for WWII because he was just 19 when it ended.
* One of the photos Don gets after Adam dies shows the two of them and is dated 1944, so he was still living with, or at the very least in contact with, his family at that date.
* After he becomes Don, people ''are'' able to track him down.
** Anna finds him pretty quickly (although to be fair, she's coming at it from the opposite angle that any of Dick's supposed criminal associates would have done, ie. she's looking for Don Draper as opposed to Dick Whitman).
** Adam finds him years later simply by recognising him in a newspaper photo. If he can do that, surely any supposed criminal associates would be able to do likewise?
[[WMG: "The Jumper" is a metaphor for the characters' mental states.]]
* Pretty self-explanatory. The opening sequence expresses the theme and tone of the show. Even though, they're surrounded by all this material wealth and luxury, they're in emotional, psychological, and spiritual freefall. Why would they pick an arbitrary character's suicide to be the opening theme of the series? The jumper is clearly Jon Hamm's silhouette, but that's because he's the face of Mad Men.
[[WMG: Don will die of emphysema or lung cancer.]]
Aside from the obviously prominent role cigarettes have played in the show from the pilot on, there seem to be a lot of non sequitur shots of Don coughing over the course of the series.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Betty's the one who gets diagnosed with cancer.]]
[[WMG: The series will end with Dick Whitman abandoning his life as Donald Draper and creating a new identity]]
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That's right, he's pulling the old [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake in MGS4]] on us. He was crying from it in Season 6. Who knows what's under that patch.
[[WMG: Joan was in Marshall [=McLuhan's=] class in Canada when he said "The Medium is the message".]]
Otherwise, how would she know that phrase before he published it in his 1964 treatise ''Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man''?
Or maybe it was the one that Arnie Rosen was at.
[[WMG: Dick Whitman was a criminal before going to Korea]]
We have a fairly comprehensive account
The final season plays in 1969. The show has always interwoven historical events of
At some point in the early 1940s, teenage Dick came into contact with criminal elements. Either he ran away from home and joined a street gang, or he met some criminals through his uncle's prostitution business. Either way, Dick ends up becoming a criminal of some sort. He therefore manages to avoid the draft when he turns 18 (which would be in 1943 I think), either because he's underground and the authorities can't find him, or because his criminal bosses used their influence and some bribery to keep him out of the war.
By 1950 (at latest), Dick ends up abandoning his criminal life and joining the Army to fight in Korea. There are any number of reasons why this could have happened. Maybe Dick was genuinely disgusted by what he had become and chose to turn over a new leaf. Maybe he fell out of favor with his criminal bosses or got into trouble with rival gangs and needed to get away. Maybe he was arrested and joining the Army was a way to stay out of jail. Or any other reason. Bottom line is, Dick ends up in Korea and as we know, realizes he isn't cut out
A major part of Don's character on the show is his intense desire to divorce himself completely from his past (though as time goes by he finds that harder to do). And the possibility that he may have been a criminal as Dick Whitman gives an added layer to that aspect of his characterization. Also, it seems to me far more likely that Dick decided to start over with a fake identity for reasons beyond just wanting to get out of the war, and avoiding his 'family'.
* In
* One of the photos Don gets after Adam dies shows the two of them and is dated 1944, so he was still living with, or at the very least in contact with,
* After he becomes Don, people ''are'' able to track him down.
** Anna finds him pretty quickly (although to be fair, she's coming at it from the opposite angle that any
** Adam finds him years later simply by recognising him in a newspaper photo. If he can do that, surely any supposed criminal associates would be able to do likewise?
[[WMG: "The Jumper" is a metaphor for
* The moon landing takes place during the
* Pretty self-explanatory. The opening sequence expresses the theme and tone of the show. Even though, they're surrounded by all this material wealth and luxury, they're in emotional, psychological, and spiritual freefall. Why would they pick an arbitrary character's suicide to be the opening theme of the series? The jumper is clearly Jon Hamm's silhouette, but that's because he's the face of Mad Men.
[[WMG: Don will die of emphysema or lung cancer.]]
Aside from the obviously prominent role cigarettes have played in the show from the pilot on, there seem to be
* Jossed. [[spoiler: Betty's the one who gets diagnosed with cancer.]]
[[WMG: The series will end with Dick Whitman abandoning his life as Donald Draper and creating
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He seems to revert back to being called Dick when he's on the road.
The credits jumper is Don, but it's metaphorical. The jumper represents Don's realization that he needs to end his life as Don Draper if he wants happiness.
The credits jumper is Don, but it's metaphorical. The jumper represents Don's realization that he needs to end his life as Don Draper if he wants happiness.
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[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' is a {{Prequel}} to ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'']]
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at the hippie commune. That epiphany is that he should form his own cult and change his identity to Reverend Wayne. Doing so, he can convince women that the Apocalypse is coming and trap them in his bunker.
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/TheWalkingDead'']]
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
[[WMG: When Ted Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...]]
Having heard that Don had run off and was in trouble he raced off, got Don's call to [=McCann=] traced, and flew off in his plane to Big Sur to save him.
[[WMG: Harry Crane will go on to be [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Cyril Figgis]].]]
They look similar, the characters are similar, Rich Sommer even sounds like Chris Parnell. Finally, the median time period for Archer, based on its anachronisms, is somewhere in the mid-70s approximately after Mad Men ends.
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at the hippie commune. That epiphany is that he should form his own cult and change his identity to Reverend Wayne. Doing so, he can convince women that the Apocalypse is coming and trap them in his bunker.
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/TheWalkingDead'']]
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
[[WMG: When Ted Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...]]
Having heard that Don had run off and was in trouble he raced off, got Don's call to [=McCann=] traced, and flew off in his plane to Big Sur to save him.
[[WMG: Harry Crane will go on to be [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Cyril Figgis]].]]
They look similar, the characters are similar, Rich Sommer even sounds like Chris Parnell. Finally, the median time period for Archer, based on its anachronisms, is somewhere in the mid-70s approximately after Mad Men ends.
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[[WMG:''Mad Men'' is People who accuse Weiner of creating Glen as a {{Prequel}} to ''Series/UnbreakableKimmySchmidt'']]
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at the hippie commune. That epiphany is that he should formwalk-on for his own cult and change his identity to Reverend Wayne. Doing so, he can convince women that the Apocalypse is coming and trap them in his bunker.
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could alsoson have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/TheWalkingDead'']]
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
[[WMG: When Ted Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...it exactly backwards.]]
Having heard He knew all along that Don had run off he'd want Glen for a few scenes once a season or so. Casting his son who doesn't act in anything else meant he'd have someone who was always available and was in trouble he raced off, got Don's call wouldn't need to [=McCann=] traced, find another kid and flew off in his plane to Big Sur to save him.
reintroduce the character [[TheOtherDarrin with a different actor]] every time.
[[WMG:Harry Crane will go on to be [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Cyril Figgis]].Samsonite=alcoholism for the ''Mad Men'' writers.]]
They look similar, * Thus far, of course, we only have the characters are similar, Rich Sommer even sounds like Chris Parnell. Finally, evidence of "Six Months' Leave" and "The Suitcase," but it is kind of interesting that two episodes that deal with alcoholism also involve Samsonite in some major way. "Six Months' Leave" is kicked off by Freddy Rumsen passing out and pissing himself during a pitch to Samsonite, and "The Suitcase," which showcases the median beginnings of Don's inevitable alcoholism (the puking should be a clue) and the depths of Duck's (every time period he shows up), as well as mentioning how Freddy is now that he's joined AA (Roger isn't pleased), gets ''its'' start with Don and Peggy working late on the Samsonite campaign.
[[WMG: The early '70s were/will be lean years forArcher, based SCDP.]]
* The bad days will begin when cigarettes are banned from advertising onits anachronisms, US TV in 1970 and end when the first Honda Civic debuts into the 1974 oil crisis. Since Lucky Strike is somewhere Sterling's pet account and Honda is Campbell's, this will set up a very interesting dynamic to watch.
** The basics of this may still happen, but as of the most recent episode Lucky Strike has dumped SCDP setting the lean years up in themid-70s approximately after Mad Men ends.mid 60's.
** Also, the Honda Civic is precisely the car account you would ''want to have'' going into the oil crisis. SCDP's execs viewing the Civic account as a mere consolation prize is a case of ItWillNeverCatchOn, and possibly foreshadowing if indeed the show's story takes the firm into the 70s. Between quitting tobacco ahead of the rest of the industry and landing a fuel-efficient economy car account a decade before the oil crisis, SCDP is poised for a huge comeback in the 70s.
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
* Um ... SC&P gets taken over by [=McCann=] in 1970. Even before then, Chevy moved their advertising for the Vega in-house.
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[[WMG:
''Mad Men'' ends with Don finding an epiphany at the hippie commune. That epiphany is that he should form
[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Don could also
[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/TheWalkingDead'']]
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
[[WMG: When Ted Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...
[[WMG:
[[WMG: The early '70s were/will be lean years for
* The bad days will begin when cigarettes are banned from advertising on
** The basics of this may still happen, but as of the most recent episode Lucky Strike has dumped SCDP setting the lean years up in the
** Also, the Honda Civic is precisely the car account you would ''want to have'' going into the oil crisis. SCDP's execs viewing the Civic account as a mere consolation prize is a case of ItWillNeverCatchOn, and possibly foreshadowing if indeed the show's story takes the firm into the 70s. Between quitting tobacco ahead of the rest of the industry and landing a fuel-efficient economy car account a decade before the oil crisis, SCDP is poised for a huge comeback in the 70s.
*** But it looks like the car account they have at that time will be the [[TheAllegedCar Chevy Vega]].
* Um ... SC&P gets taken over by [=McCann=] in 1970. Even before then, Chevy moved their advertising for the Vega in-house.
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[[WMG: Don is the guy jumping off the building in the opening credits.]]
* Which could be the ultimate foreshadowing with Don at one point attempting suicide.
* Jossed. He doesn't kill himself.
[[WMG: Sterling is the jumper in the credits.]]
* After the whole [[spoiler:losing LuckyStrike and not telling the others about it]] fiasco, he's looking dangerously close to losing it entirely.
* Jossed. He doesn't kill himself.
[[WMG: The jumper in the credits is Lane.]]
* As of the end of the latest season, he has lost everything. He's been fired and disgraced for forging Don's signature and embezzling money from the company, he has British loan sharks breathing down his neck, and his wife just blew what little money they had left on a brand new luxury car. The last time we see him, he's hunched over in the parking garage, literally puking with desperation and panic. If he doesn't kill himself, his father or his wife's family will.
** Um. [[spoiler:He hanged himself after getting fired. It was featured quite prominently at the end of the episode where he got fired. We saw the body.]]
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[[folder:The jumper in the opening credits]]
[[WMG: Don is the guy jumping off the building in the opening credits.]]
* Which could be the ultimate foreshadowing with Don at one point attempting suicide.
* Jossed. He doesn't kill himself.
[[WMG: Sterling is the jumper in the credits.]]
* After the whole [[spoiler:losing LuckyStrike and not telling the others about it]] fiasco, he's looking dangerously close to losing it entirely.
* Jossed. He doesn't kill himself.
[[WMG: The jumper in the credits is Lane.]]
* As of the end of the latest season, he has lost everything. He's been fired and disgraced for forging Don's signature and embezzling money from the company, he has British loan sharks breathing down his neck, and his wife just blew what little money they had left on a brand new luxury car. The last time we see him, he's hunched over in the parking garage, literally puking with desperation and panic. If he doesn't kill himself, his father or his wife's family will.
** Um. [[spoiler:He hanged himself after getting fired. It was featured quite prominently at the end of the episode where he got fired. We saw the body.]]
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[[WMG: Don is the guy jumping off the building in the opening credits.]]
* Which could be the ultimate foreshadowing with Don at one point attempting suicide.
[[WMG: Sterling is the jumper in the credits.]]
* After the whole [[spoiler:losing LuckyStrike and not telling the others about it]] fiasco, he's looking dangerously close to losing it entirely.
[[WMG: The jumper in the credits is Lane.]]
* As of the end of the latest season, he has lost everything. He's been fired and disgraced for forging Don's signature and embezzling money from the company, he has British loan sharks breathing down his neck, and his wife just blew what little money they had left on a brand new luxury car. The last time we see him, he's hunched over in the parking garage, literally puking with desperation and panic. If he doesn't kill himself, his father or his wife's family will.
** Um. [[spoiler:He hanged himself after getting fired. It was featured quite prominently at the end of the episode where he got fired. We saw the body.]]
* Which could be the ultimate foreshadowing with Don at one point attempting suicide.
[[WMG: Sterling is the jumper in the credits.]]
* After the whole [[spoiler:losing LuckyStrike and not telling the others about it]] fiasco, he's looking dangerously close to losing it entirely.
[[WMG: The jumper in the credits is Lane.]]
* As of the end of the latest season, he has lost everything. He's been fired and disgraced for forging Don's signature and embezzling money from the company, he has British loan sharks breathing down his neck, and his wife just blew what little money they had left on a brand new luxury car. The last time we see him, he's hunched over in the parking garage, literally puking with desperation and panic. If he doesn't kill himself, his father or his wife's family will.
** Um. [[spoiler:He hanged himself after getting fired. It was featured quite prominently at the end of the episode where he got fired. We saw the body.]]
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* Which could be the ultimate foreshadowing with Don at one point attempting suicide.
[[WMG: Sterling is the jumper in the credits.]]
* After the whole [[spoiler:losing LuckyStrike and not telling the others about it]] fiasco, he's looking dangerously close to losing it entirely.
[[WMG: The jumper in the credits is Lane.]]
* As of the end of the latest season, he has lost everything. He's been fired and disgraced for forging Don's signature and embezzling money from the company, he has British loan sharks breathing down his neck, and his wife just blew what little money they had left on a brand new luxury car. The last time we see him, he's hunched over in the parking garage, literally puking with desperation and panic. If he doesn't kill himself, his father or his wife's family will.
** Um. [[spoiler:He hanged himself after getting fired. It was featured quite prominently at the end of the episode where he got fired. We saw the body.]]
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I speak of course of the "Megan is Creator/SharonTate" fan theory, which came about during Season 6 after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinating about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the madness.
** {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinating about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the madness.
** {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
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I speak of course of the "Megan is Creator/SharonTate" fan theory, which came about during Season 6 after Megan was shown wearing many outfits a tee-shirt with a red start on it, similar to those one worn by Ms. Tate for a photo-shoot two years before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".murder. Don hallucinating about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the madness.
** * For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".
* {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence".
* {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.
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* Jossed, sadly. CelebrityParadox averted.
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* Jossed, sadly. And surprisingly, given how Don loves to sneak off to the cinema. CelebrityParadox averted.
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I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about during season six after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
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I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, "Megan is Creator/SharonTate" fan theory, which came about during season six Season 6 after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
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** {{Jossed}}. Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.]]
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** {{Jossed}}. Although she is in LA in 1969 (Season 7A), Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.]]
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[[WMG:Megan will become pregnant, and then get murdered, by the end of Season 6]]
I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinating her as pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" added to the madness.
** {{Jossed}}. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/megan-draper-mad-men_n_3443795.html?utm_hp_ref=mad-men Weiner has said that he's not killing anyone off this season.]]
I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinating her as pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" added to the madness.
** {{Jossed}}. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/megan-draper-mad-men_n_3443795.html?utm_hp_ref=mad-men Weiner has said that he's not killing anyone off this season.]]
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[[WMG:Megan will become pregnant, and then get murdered, by the end of Season 6]]
murdered]]
I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about during season six after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinatingher as about Megan being pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" and several characters (including Megan) going to see ''Film/RosemarysBaby'' (which was directed by Creator/RomanPolanski, Tate's husband) in "The Quality of Mercy" added to the madness.
** {{Jossed}}.[[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/megan-draper-mad-men_n_3443795.html?utm_hp_ref=mad-men Weiner has said that he's not killing anyone off this season.Megan doesn't get pregnant, and nor does she get murdered.]]
I speak of course of the Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about during season six after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Ms. Tate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence". Don hallucinating
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Or maybe it was the one that Arnie Rosen was at.
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* Jossed, sadly.
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I speak of course of the Sharon Tate Conspiracy Theory, which came about after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Creator/SharonTate before before her murder.
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I speak of course of the Sharon Tate Megan Is Creator/SharonTate Conspiracy Theory, which came about after Megan was shown wearing many outfits similar to those worn by Creator/SharonTate Ms. Tate before before her murder.
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* Jossed. He doesn’t doesn't even fire the gun, let alone shoot anyone.
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I speak of course of the Sharon Tate Conspiracy Theory, where Megan has been wearing many outfits Sharon Tate did shortly before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence." And I think Don hallucinating her as pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" added to the madness.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the "evidence." And I think Don hallucinating her as pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" added to the madness.
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I speak of course of the Sharon Tate Conspiracy Theory, where which came about after Megan has been was shown wearing many outfits Sharon Tate did shortly similar to those worn by Creator/SharonTate before before her murder.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the"evidence." And I think "evidence". Don hallucinating her as pregnant in "A Tale of Two Cities" added to the madness.
* For those who aren't familiar, [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/is-megan-going-to-be-murdered-on-mad-men here's the BuzzFeed link]] that lists the
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** Jossed. [[spoiler: Peggy ends up with Stan.]]
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** Jossed. Don does marry one of his secretaries, but it's Megan. [[spoiler: Peggy ends up with Stan.]]
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* {{Jossed}} -- this is not how the final episode ends -- but lampshaded at the start of Season 7B, when Ken speculates about using his work experience as material for an upcoming short story or novel. Pete comments that their line of work is "boring", and that Ken should focus on an adventure story instead.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock, so he could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother who had him out of wedlock, so he wedlock. He could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book, ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
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The evidence is abundantly clear. When he still lives with Betty in their family home, when Betty goes into his office to snoop through is drawers, there's a copy of W.E.B. Griffin's book, book ''The Corps'', which wasn't published until 1986. The only way Don could have gotten this book is if he travelled to the future and came back with it.
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* [[spoiler:Sort of confirmed. He's not Abagnale, but he's someone very much like him -- completely unqualified for his job and has been relying on his charm to prevent anyone from finding out.]]
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* [[spoiler:Sort of confirmed. He's not Abagnale, but he's someone very much like him -- he's bluffed his way into a job he's completely unqualified for his job and has been relying on his charm to prevent anyone from finding out.]]
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[[WMG: When Ted Chaugh left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...]]
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[[WMG: When Ted Chaugh Chaough left the room while Stan was on the phone in the finale...]]
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[[WMG: ''Mad Men'' takes place in the past of ''Series/BreakingBad'' and ''Series/TheWalkingDead'']]
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage; his dying mother [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother, mother who had him out of wedlock, so he could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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Don had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
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Don could've had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity.
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Don could've had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity.
identity. One of his aliases is even ''Gene'', the name of his (unknown) half-brother.
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Don could've had a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's flair for advertising, love of movies and penchant for changing his identity.
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Don could've had an affair a one-night stand with Mrs [=McGill=] during his wandering-around-the-country phase, a business trip to Chicago, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's love of movies and penchant for changing his identity.
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Don could've had an affair with Mrs [=McGill=] during his wandering-around-the-country phase, resulting in the birth of [[Characters/BreakingBadSaulGoodman Jimmy]]. Who has inherited his real father's penchant for changing his identity.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she's actually his grandmother and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother), so he could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Another of Don's unintended offspring could be [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
* Another of Don's unintended offspring could be [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's certainly an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his parentage; his dying mother admits [[DeathbedConfession confesses]] to Liz that [[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo she's actually his grandmother grandmother]] and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his mother), mother, so he could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
*Another of Don's unintended offspring Don could be also have fathered [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
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* Another of Don's unintended offspring could be [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van Horn]].
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It's basically more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' both inhabit share the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she has been covering up the fact she's actually his grandmother and that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is in fact his actual mother), so he could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
* Another of Don's unintended offspring could be [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' vanHorn]].
Horn]] who has a New York background, having been a Wall Street trader before turning to life of crime.
* Another of Don's unintended offspring could be [[Film/BabyDriver Jason 'Buddy' van
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It's more or less basically a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/ThirtyRock'' both inhabit the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she has been covering up the fact that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is his actual mother), so he may could well be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/{{30Rock}}'' ''Series/ThirtyRock'' both inhabit the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she has been covering up the fact that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is his actual mother), so he may be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/30Rock'' ''Series/{{30Rock}}'' both inhabit the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she has been covering up the fact that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is his actual mother), so he may be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.
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[[WMG: Dr Drew Baird is Don's illegitimate son]]
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It's more or less a given that ''Mad Men'' and ''Series/30Rock'' both inhabit the same universe -- Liz Lemon's mother used to work for Sterling Cooper back in Main/TheSixties -- so why not? There's an element of mystery behind Drew's parentage (his dying mother admits to Liz that she has been covering up the fact that the woman Drew thinks is his sister is his actual mother), so he may be the result of one of Don's many, ''many'' flings.