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How is this relevant to future events? If changing the past is possible after all, then Young Xehanort suddenly becomes a ''massive'' liability to Master Xehanort's plans. If he dies or [[HeelFaceTurn turns good]], then [[RetGone all of Master Xehanort's schemes fall apart before they even began]]. But since Xehanort has become so entwined with the series' history at this point, removing his influence from the timeline would have [[ForWantOfANail immesurable consequences]], possibly requiring a total reset on the universe like what happened after the Keyblade War.

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How is this relevant to future events? If changing the past is possible after all, then Young Xehanort suddenly becomes a ''massive'' liability to Master Xehanort's plans. If he dies or [[HeelFaceTurn turns good]], then [[RetGone all of Master Xehanort's schemes fall apart before they even began]]. But since Xehanort has become so entwined with the series' history at this point, removing his influence from the timeline would have [[ForWantOfANail immesurable consequences]], consequences, possibly requiring a total reset on the universe like what happened after the Keyblade War.
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* [[WesternAnimation/Wish2023 Asha]]: Asha's attempt to free the wishes Magnifico hoarded will fill her heart with light, and Star's presence will also serve as a SecretTestOfCharacter for the girl. She will also likely be the last new heart of pure light to be revealed.
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Vanitas appears in the game for all but 2 seconds, talking in unision with Young Master Xehanort. This brief scene is very possibly just a vision Sora has upon hearing YMX speak, though it makes you wonder how active Vanitas' conciousness is within him by that point. Flash foreward to Sora's {{Mindscrew}} Royal in The World That Never Was: In his dream, Sora encounters Roxas... Who promptly states that things aren't well the way they are and infuses Sora with his memories. All at once, suddenly, with little explanation and not preparing him at all, playing directly into Xehanort's plans with it. Now... Why would Roxas do this? The "Roxas" Sora meets clearly is completly aware of what is going on and, unlike the other dream-people Sora meets, actually speaks to him for a while, implying he is doing the memory transfer conciously and willingly. However, all the memory transfer accomplishes at that point is to scare Sora so baddly that he goes into an HeroicBSOD and finally has his heart shattered by Xemnas, which benefits Team Xehanort greatly. So if Roxas was even one bit aware of what was going on he ''knew'' this was going to happen, and he still did this. Why? Being allied to Xehanort somehow (which is tragic) seems to be the only plausible explanation. Also, look at Roxas face when he transfers the memories. His expression looks surprisingly like Vanitas', when he held the X-Blade and challenged Ventus within their Dive Into Heart and is pretty much identical to Vanitas' expression in afformentioned OneSceneWonder moment. Even more striking: If you take a close look at the timelines of Riku's and Sora's stories, you will notice that Roxas' disappearance from Sora's dream almost immediately coincides with Riku's battle against ''Anti Black Coat'', a Nightmare-Type Dream Eater, who looks exactly like what Vanitas' "true" form has been described to look like, even featuring a simmilar battle style. A point could be made that for Sora only a few seconds pass between Roxas' disappearance and hearing Riku's post-battle pleas for him to wake up, but remember that Sora is dreaming. It was been outright stated that time doesn't flow normally within his dreams, so the entire battle against ''Anti Black Coat'' could easily have taken place in those "few seconds" between Roxas's disappearance and Riku's pleadings. ''Anti Black Coat'' being Vanitas is likely, due to all the simmilarities and Vanitas being pure darkness at the core (Though, should this theory be true, it is likely that Roxas' friendships with Axel, Xion and the virtual Twilight Gang gained him a bit of Light), so it would make sense that he'd manifest as a Dream Eater within Sora's dreamworld. After all, Riku, too, manifested as a Dream Eater, albeit as a Spirit-Type, rather than a Nightmare. It would make sense that Roxas, sensing Riku trying to interfere, "beamed out", in order to stall for time while Sora succumbs to his BSOD. ''Anti Black Coat'' being slain by Riku means nothing. He might simply have disintegrated to return to the depths of Sora's subconcious... Where Riku later finds Roxas, alongside Ven and Xion.

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Vanitas appears in the game for all but 2 seconds, talking in unision with Young Master Xehanort. This brief scene is very possibly just a vision Sora has upon hearing YMX speak, though it makes you wonder how active Vanitas' conciousness is within him by that point. Flash foreward forward to Sora's {{Mindscrew}} Royal in The World That Never Was: In his dream, Sora encounters Roxas... Who promptly states that things aren't well the way they are and infuses Sora with his memories. All at once, suddenly, with little explanation and not preparing him at all, playing directly into Xehanort's plans with it. Now... Why would Roxas do this? The "Roxas" Sora meets clearly is completly aware of what is going on and, unlike the other dream-people Sora meets, actually speaks to him for a while, implying he is doing the memory transfer conciously and willingly. However, all the memory transfer accomplishes at that point is to scare Sora so baddly that he goes into an HeroicBSOD and finally has his heart shattered by Xemnas, which benefits Team Xehanort greatly. So if Roxas was even one bit aware of what was going on he ''knew'' this was going to happen, and he still did this. Why? Being allied to Xehanort somehow (which is tragic) seems to be the only plausible explanation. Also, look at Roxas face when he transfers the memories. His expression looks surprisingly like Vanitas', when he held the X-Blade and challenged Ventus within their Dive Into Heart and is pretty much identical to Vanitas' expression in afformentioned OneSceneWonder moment. Even more striking: If you take a close look at the timelines of Riku's and Sora's stories, you will notice that Roxas' disappearance from Sora's dream almost immediately coincides with Riku's battle against ''Anti Black Coat'', a Nightmare-Type Dream Eater, who looks exactly like what Vanitas' "true" form has been described to look like, even featuring a simmilar battle style. A point could be made that for Sora only a few seconds pass between Roxas' disappearance and hearing Riku's post-battle pleas for him to wake up, but remember that Sora is dreaming. It was been outright stated that time doesn't flow normally within his dreams, so the entire battle against ''Anti Black Coat'' could easily have taken place in those "few seconds" between Roxas's disappearance and Riku's pleadings. ''Anti Black Coat'' being Vanitas is likely, due to all the simmilarities and Vanitas being pure darkness at the core (Though, should this theory be true, it is likely that Roxas' friendships with Axel, Xion and the virtual Twilight Gang gained him a bit of Light), so it would make sense that he'd manifest as a Dream Eater within Sora's dreamworld. After all, Riku, too, manifested as a Dream Eater, albeit as a Spirit-Type, rather than a Nightmare. It would make sense that Roxas, sensing Riku trying to interfere, "beamed out", in order to stall for time while Sora succumbs to his BSOD. ''Anti Black Coat'' being slain by Riku means nothing. He might simply have disintegrated to return to the depths of Sora's subconcious... Where Riku later finds Roxas, alongside Ven and Xion.

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* [[Franchise/{{Tron}} The Grid]]: With the more modern, sci-fi look of [=KH4=] and ''TRON Ares'' on the horizon, it'd be cool to see Sora and crew return to the TRON world.




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* ''TRON'' and ''Wreck-It Ralph'': Both take place inside digital video game-type environments.



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* Leroy and Stitch

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* Leroy Lilo and Stitch



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* TRON
* Turning Red
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* WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}: There are so many creative things they could do with this world design-wise, and the film's social commentary could lend itself well to something about the nature of the heart and how it connects people.

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* WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}: There are so many creative things they could do with this world design-wise, and the film's social commentary could lend itself well to something about the nature of the heart and how it connects people. It could also be a great world to introduce EnsembleDarkHorse [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Freya]], another FunnyAnimal discriminated against for her species, to the franchise in.



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* Wrecked It Wreck-It Ralph
* Zootopia
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* The Paradox Cup gave the arena the same coloration as the River Styx; which is related to the Well of Souls. The Paradox Cup is ''in'' the Well of Souls, essentially. He sets up his lesser {{avatar}} (it wasn't his entire godly essence trapped in the Well) to host the Cup and manipulate the lost souls into Heartless or the forms of enemies Sora had already fought. At the very end of the Paradox Cup, Sora fights Hades again, and knocked him out of the Arena....well, he actually knocked his trapped essence out of the Well of Souls.

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* The Paradox Cup gave the arena the same coloration as the River Styx; which is related to the Well of Souls. The Paradox Cup is ''in'' the Well of Souls, essentially. He sets up his lesser {{avatar}} avatar (it wasn't his entire godly essence trapped in the Well) to host the Cup and manipulate the lost souls into Heartless or the forms of enemies Sora had already fought. At the very end of the Paradox Cup, Sora fights Hades again, and knocked him out of the Arena....well, he actually knocked his trapped essence out of the Well of Souls.
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Since we're immediately going into the fourth mainline ''Kingdom Hearts'' game, which is said to not focus on characters like the Sea Salt Trio and the BBS Trio, then the game will mostly likely not address the plot threads left behind in past games. To make up for this, the gap between ''IV'' and ''V'' could be the longest between numbered entries since the wait for ''III'', in order to focus more on the other key characters. Roxas, Xion, Lea, and Isa could learn more about Subject X and her true identity in one game. Kairi could have a game that could allow her to train to be on Sora and Riku's level. Ventus, Aqua, and Terra could learn more about Ventus's past with the Dandelions. And, of course, ''Verum Rex'' could finally release, after ''IV'' was chosen over it to be made first.

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Since we're immediately going into the fourth mainline ''Kingdom Hearts'' game, which is said to not focus on characters like the Sea Salt Trio and the BBS Trio, then the game will mostly likely not address the plot threads left behind in past games. To make up for this, the gap between ''IV'' and ''V'' could be the longest between numbered entries since the wait for ''III'', in order to focus more on the other key characters. Roxas, Xion, Lea, and Isa could learn more about Subject X and her true identity in one game. Kairi could have a game that could allow her to train to be on Sora and Riku's level. Ventus, Aqua, and Terra could learn more about Ventus's past with the Dandelions. And, of course, ''Verum Rex'' could finally release, after ''IV'' was chosen over it to be made first.first.

[[WMG:The Lost Master Saga/Arc/whatever will end with ''Kingdom Hearts VII'']]
The Dark Seeker Saga ended with ''Kingdom Hearts III'', and 3 is a prominent ArcNumber in the series. Perhaps it seems fair for the Lost Master Saga could end with the seventh mainline game in the series, just because of 7's similar prominence.
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[[WMG:There will be multiple spinoff titles in between ''Kingdom Hearts IV'' and ''Kingdom Hearts V''

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Since Kingdom Hearts is the aglomeration of every heart in the universe, and one heart contains EXPERIENCE and MEMORY, the great heart certainly contains the EXPERIENCES and MEMORIES of every heart that ever lived and ever will be. That is what it makes Kingdom Hearts such a prize: whoever takes hold of it will surely become a god.

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Since Kingdom Hearts is the aglomeration of every heart in the universe, and one heart contains EXPERIENCE and MEMORY, the great heart certainly contains the EXPERIENCES and MEMORIES of every heart that ever lived and ever will be. That is what it makes Kingdom Hearts such a prize: whoever takes hold of it will surely become a god.god.

[[WMG:There will be multiple spinoff titles in between ''Kingdom Hearts IV'' and ''Kingdom Hearts V''
Since we're immediately going into the fourth mainline ''Kingdom Hearts'' game, which is said to not focus on characters like the Sea Salt Trio and the BBS Trio, then the game will mostly likely not address the plot threads left behind in past games. To make up for this, the gap between ''IV'' and ''V'' could be the longest between numbered entries since the wait for ''III'', in order to focus more on the other key characters. Roxas, Xion, Lea, and Isa could learn more about Subject X and her true identity in one game. Kairi could have a game that could allow her to train to be on Sora and Riku's level. Ventus, Aqua, and Terra could learn more about Ventus's past with the Dandelions. And, of course, ''Verum Rex'' could finally release, after ''IV'' was chosen over it to be made first.
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* Jossed; ''KHIV'' will be the next game to come out of the franchise (not counting ''Missing Link''. Guess those plot points will have to wait.
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In ''Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance'', a digital copy of Ansem the Wise tells Riku that "The heart has always been quick to grow. Each
exposure to light, to the natural world, to other people, shapes this most malleable part inside of us." This can be read as: a heart acquires EXPERIENCE.

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In ''Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance'', a digital copy of Ansem the Wise tells Riku that "The heart has always been quick to grow. Each
Each exposure to light, to the natural world, to other people, shapes this most malleable part inside of us." This can be read as: a heart acquires EXPERIENCE.
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* Saïx's speech at Hollow Bastion during ''Kingdom Hearts II'''s midpoint: "Pitiful Heartless, mindlessly collecting hearts. And yet they know not the true power of what they hold. The rage of the Keyblade releases those hearts. They gather in darkness, masterless and free... '''until they weave together to make Kingdom Hearts'''." (bold added)

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* Saïx's speech at Hollow Bastion during the turning point in ''Kingdom Hearts II'''s midpoint: II'': "Pitiful Heartless, mindlessly collecting hearts. And yet they know not the true power of what they hold. The rage of the Keyblade releases those hearts. They gather in darkness, masterless and free... '''until they weave together to make Kingdom Hearts'''." (bold added)

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''Kingdom Hearts'' is an aglomeration of hearts, whether of people or worlds.

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''Kingdom Hearts'' is an aglomeration of hearts, whether of people or worlds.of worlds, as Maleficent muses in ''Kingdom Hearts II'': "The heart of all kingdoms, the heart of all that lives."

If an individual heart learns from EXPERIENCE and holds MEMORIES, then the longer-lived hearts contain the most experience and the most memories. This includes skills, secrets, and powers. If Kingdom Hearts exists since time immemorial, and Kingdom Hearts is, in itself, both ''ONE HEART'' and "the heart of ''ALL'' worlds", surely the combined hearts that comprise Kingdom Hearts are to be avidly sought after by many parties, as Maleficent puts it in the first game: "(...) a door will open to the heart of all worlds. Within lies '''untold wisdom'''." (bolding added)

Since Kingdom Hearts is the aglomeration of every heart in the universe, and one heart contains EXPERIENCE and MEMORY, the great heart certainly contains the EXPERIENCES and MEMORIES of every heart that ever lived and ever will be. That is what it makes Kingdom Hearts such a prize: whoever takes hold of it will surely become a god.
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[[WMG: On the nature of Kingdom Hearts itself and why it is the ultimate prize]]
In ''Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance'', a digital copy of Ansem the Wise tells Riku that "The heart has always been quick to grow. Each
exposure to light, to the natural world, to other people, shapes this most malleable part inside of us." This can be read as: a heart acquires EXPERIENCE.

In ''Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories'', Axel, then still part of Organization XIII, exposits to Sora the following: "Our most precious memories lie so deep within our hearts that they're out of reach." His words are echoed by Xemnas, in ''Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance'': "The memory and heart are tightly linked. Rub a few memories together, and you get a spark of emotion, a feeling." These sentences in conjunction can be read as: a heart contains MEMORIES.

Now, where do hearts go? In-universe text tell that the hearts go to Kingdom Hearts:

* A mysterious text in Ansem's laboratory in The End of The World (''Kingdom Hearts 1'') says thus: "[Heartless] Seize all hearts and consummate the great heart. '''All hearts to be one''', one heart to encompass all. '''Realize the destiny: the realm of Kingdom Hearts'''." (bold not in original)

* Saïx's speech at Hollow Bastion during ''Kingdom Hearts II'''s midpoint: "Pitiful Heartless, mindlessly collecting hearts. And yet they know not the true power of what they hold. The rage of the Keyblade releases those hearts. They gather in darkness, masterless and free... '''until they weave together to make Kingdom Hearts'''." (bold added)

* King Mickey explains the nature of the Kingdom Hearts that appears in the first game (''Kingdom Hearts 0.2: A fragmentary passage''): "Welp, it's not the Kingdom Hearts you know. Not exactly. But even though it's smaller, it's still '''the heart of many worlds'''." (added bolding)

''Kingdom Hearts'' is an aglomeration of hearts, whether of people or worlds.
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** To clarify, in Castle Oblivion, it was the loyalists vs the defectors, with Axel as a PoisonousFriend to both sides so he could elimiate the traitors as well as Vexen & Zexion to ensure Saix's rise to becoming Xemnas' right hand man (since at that time, Saix & Axel were still "friends" and [[spoiler:wanted to overthrow the Organization themselves at one point]]). Also, we see how (at least one of) the apprentices lose their hearts in 3D: [[spoiler:Apprentice Xehanort manifests Master Xehanort's Keyblade and uses it to remove Braig's heart]].

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** To clarify, in Castle Oblivion, it was the loyalists vs the defectors, with Axel as a PoisonousFriend PscyhoSupporter to both sides so he could elimiate the traitors as well as Vexen & Zexion to ensure Saix's rise to becoming Xemnas' right hand man (since at that time, Saix & Axel were still "friends" and [[spoiler:wanted to overthrow the Organization themselves at one point]]). Also, we see how (at least one of) the apprentices lose their hearts in 3D: [[spoiler:Apprentice Xehanort manifests Master Xehanort's Keyblade and uses it to remove Braig's heart]].
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* [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2 Return to Arrendelle]] - The characters visit Arrendelle again... but this time it's the events of Frozen 2. (...come on, you know Disney would be strict.) Despite being somewhat of a retelling, ending with a boss fight of the Heartless of Elsa&Anna's grandfather (fused with the dam - a representation of it), it frees everyone from being trapped in space. Thus they end up wondering if this is what happened to Sora, and if there was something that could free him.

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* [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2 [[WesternAnimation/FrozenII Return to Arrendelle]] Arendelle]] - The characters visit Arrendelle Arendelle again... but this time it's the events of Frozen 2.II. (...come on, you know Disney would be strict.) Despite being somewhat of a retelling, ending with a boss fight of the Heartless of Elsa&Anna's Elsa & Anna's grandfather (fused with the dam - a representation of it), it frees everyone from being trapped in space. Thus they end up wondering if this is what happened to Sora, and if there was something that could free him.
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* Except that it will be a [[UpToEleven Medley of]] [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Guarndando nel buio, Darkness of the Unknown, Rage Awakened AND Forze del Male! With a serving of "Destati", of course.]]

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* Maybe all of the friends Sora has made along his journey donate their light to him to defeat Chernabog ([[UpToEleven or maybe Chernabog's Heartless?)]] while Ave Maria plays.

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* Maybe all of the friends Sora has made along his journey donate their light to him to defeat Chernabog ([[UpToEleven or (or maybe Chernabog's Heartless?)]] Heartless?) while Ave Maria plays.
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He'll first meet [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] and work though [[Film/IronMan his movie.]] Then he'll leave and continue his journey. Eventually, he'll go back and meet [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] while we work with [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk his movie.]] Then he'll leave again and continue to fight the bad guys of other worlds. After that we'll go back and meet up with Iron Man for the sequel. [[RunningGag Once again ]][[LamshadeHanging (I'm starting to see a theme here)]] he'll work on [[{{Film/Thor}} Thor's movie.]] After that Sora will see [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Steve Rogers]] waking up from his [[spoiler: Timeskip.]] He'll leave once again and come back [[Film/TheAvengers2012 and this time will meet up with all of the heroes that were on this journey.]]

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He'll first meet [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] and work though [[Film/IronMan [[Film/IronMan1 his movie.]] Then he'll leave and continue his journey. Eventually, he'll go back and meet [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Bruce Banner]] while we work with [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk2008 his movie.]] Then he'll leave again and continue to fight the bad guys of other worlds. After that we'll go back and meet up with Iron Man for the sequel. [[RunningGag Once again ]][[LamshadeHanging (I'm starting to see a theme here)]] he'll work on [[{{Film/Thor}} Thor's movie.]] After that Sora will see [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Steve Rogers]] waking up from his [[spoiler: Timeskip.]] He'll leave once again and come back [[Film/TheAvengers2012 and this time will meet up with all of the heroes that were on this journey.]]
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Roxas being a Nobody born of a heart of pure light would also explain why, unlike the other twelve in the Organization, he maintained his "good" personality, just as Namine did. Both of them also dress in whites and creams, and Roxas dresses a lot like Ventus (side note: Namine may be blonde because she was born of a heart of pure light. Ventus was already a blonde, though). Even as their reformed Somebodies, Lea and Isa lean towards dark colours.

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Roxas being a Nobody born of a heart of pure light would also explain why, unlike the other twelve in the Organization, he maintained his "good" personality, just as Namine did. Both of them also dress in whites and creams, and Roxas dresses a lot like Ventus (side note: Namine may be blonde because she was born of a heart of pure light. Ventus was already a blonde, though). Even as their reformed Somebodies, Lea and Isa lean towards dark colours.colours.

[[WMG:Worlds than can appear in Kingdom Hearts 4 are...]]
*Anastasia
*Aladdin
*Alien
*Atlantis
*Avengers
*Bendy and the Ink Machine
*Black Cauldron
*Cuphead
*Disney Land
*DuckTales
*Epic Mickey
*Fantastia
*Ferngully
*Haunted Mansion
*Hercules
*House of Mouse
*Gargoyles
*Gravity Falls
*Great Mouse Detective
*LightYear
*Leroy and Stitch
*Nightmare Before Christmas
*Phineas and Ferb
*Pirates of the Caribbean
*Pocahontas
*Predator
*Princess and Frog
*Radiant Garden
*Spie In Disguise
*Star Wars
*Sword and the Stone
*Timeliss River
*Toy Story
*Traverse Town
*Treasure Planet
*Twilight Town
*Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
*Wrecked It Ralph
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* [[WesternAnimation/RayaAndTheLastDragon Kumandra]]: The Drunn already look like Heartless, so people learning there is a difference between the two might actually surpise them. A Drunn/Heartless fusion shaped like a dragon is a must for a the final boss of the world.
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* Jossed. Elrena is met in X, and is a distant but good person. She also dresses in a cute teal leather jacket with matching boots, a black skirt, and a white blouse with a black tie, so no Widow costumes either.
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[[WMG:The reason Why xigbar see's Xion as ven]]

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\n* Xemnas explains this a little bit in III- I-VI are Ansem's apprentices. VII and VIII "joined thereafter" implying there is no real reason, or one he cares to share, for Saix and Axel, but then he explains IX-XII. Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene all ancient Keyblade Weilders, and were brought on to awaken the sleeping Keyblade legacy within them.

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* Jossed- Daybreak Town, while it does fall to ruin, is actually Scala ad Caelum.

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If Roxas is actually Ven's Nobody, and not Sora's, this would still tie Sora to Ventus, and mean Sora still has part of Ven within him, explaining why Sora has intrusive thoughts and reactions that are actually those of Ventus, when Sora never had that kind of problem before. Roxas, being a Nobody born of pure light, is still tightly connected to his Somebody. Roxas has his connections to Sora mostly courtesy of Namine's tampering and the fact that he is born of Sora's body, just like Namine, but not of Sora's heart.

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If Roxas is actually Ven's Nobody, and not Sora's, this would still tie Sora to Ventus, and Ventus even without Ven's heart still in Sora's. It would mean Sora still has part of Ven within him, explaining why Sora has intrusive thoughts and reactions that are actually those of Ventus, when Sora never had that kind of problem before. Roxas, being a Nobody born of pure light, is still tightly connected to his Somebody. Roxas has his connections to Sora mostly courtesy of Namine's tampering and the fact that he is born of Sora's body, just like Namine, but not of Sora's heart. Roxas does "return" to Sora, but this may be because he was born out of Sora. Notably, when Sora Awakens Ventus, Roxas doesn't disappear. He stays in Sora.

Roxas being a Nobody born of a heart of pure light would also explain why, unlike the other twelve in the Organization, he maintained his "good" personality, just as Namine did. Both of them also dress in whites and creams, and Roxas dresses a lot like Ventus (side note: Namine may be blonde because she was born of a heart of pure light. Ventus was already a blonde, though). Even as their reformed Somebodies, Lea and Isa lean towards dark colours.

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This all goes back to the moment Sora released Kairi's heart. When he does this, something very interesting happens. Sora releases two hearts, but they're both ''pure light''. This shouldn't be possible- Sora does not have a heart of pure light. And when Heartless are defeated they release pinkish red crystalline hearts, so we know what regular hearts look like. Yet Sora releases two identical spheres of light. While Sora's heart may not be pure light, Ven's is. This most likely means the hearts Sora released that day were Kairi's and Ven's. If Roxas is Ven's Nobody, that explains quite a lot. It explains why Ven looks and sounds like Ven. But it also explains why Roxas and Namine are both unique Nobodies- they are both Nobodies born of hearts of purest light that are not in their own bodies. Both Namine and Roxas exist independant of their Somebodies's bodies. Namine because she wasn't born out of Kairi's body, but with Roxas there is no explanation unless he is Ven's Nobody. The notion Sora never released his own heart, as he only released Ven's and Kairi's, also explains why his Heartless retained a sense of self as a Shadow and why Kairi was able to restore him so easily. He had not made the real split since his heart and body never actually separated. He instead went into a stasis of some kind.

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This all goes back to the moment If true, it explains a lot. And there's proof! When Sora released Kairi's heart. When he does this, something very interesting happens. stabs himself with the Keyblade of Hearts, what happens is actually strange- Sora's own heart is never actually released. What Sora releases is two hearts, hearts of pure light- one is Kairi's, but they're both ''pure light''. This shouldn't the other can't be possible- Sora does not have Sora's, because it is a heart of pure light. And when Heartless are defeated they release pinkish red we know that's what it is because it is entirely identical to the hearts of Kairi and the other six Princesses of Heart, yet looks nothing like a red-pink crystalline hearts, so we know what regular hearts look like. Yet Sora releases two identical spheres of light. While Sora's heart may not be pure light, Ven's is. This most likely means like the hearts ones released when a Heartless is made or destroyed. So the other heart Sora released that day were Kairi's and Ven's. If Roxas is ''must'' be Ven's, as Ven's Nobody, heart is pure light thanks to Xehanort ripping the darkness out of his heart. It is shown as a sphere of light every time it appears in BBS and in KHIII. Furthermore, by the time Sora enters Traverse Town, Kairi and Ventus are in nearly completely identical situations- both have hearts of pure light, both their hearts are sleeping within Sora, and both their bodies are comatose husks with no hearts, but because their hearts were not consumed by darkness and instead take refuge in someone else's, neither of their bodies turn into the empty husks that explains quite a lot. It explains why Ven looks and sounds like Ven. But it also explains become Nobodies. With this in mind, this might explain why Roxas and Namine are such special Nobodies, even among the humanoid ones- both unique Nobodies- they of them are both Nobodies born of hearts of purest pure light out of a body that are is not in their own bodies. Both own. Namine and Roxas exist independant of are also the only Nobodies able to coexist with their Somebodies's bodies. Namine because Somebodies. While this may make sense for Namine, since she wasn't born out of from Kairi's body, but this doesn't make sense with Roxas there is no explanation unless he is Ven's Nobody. The notion Sora never released his own heart, as he only released Ven's and Kairi's, not Sora's Nobody.

Roxas actually being Ventus's Nobody might
also explains why his explain the weirdness with Sora's Heartless (of which there are many oddities). Sora's Heartless, a Shadow, is an unusually passive and gentle Heartless, non-offensive and really only capable of bouncing around. Kairi is instantly able to recognise him. Sora's Heartless knows to go after his friends, and is aware enough that the very first person he goes to is not Kairi who he spent the whole game trying to save or Goofy, but the healer, Donald. He looks up at him, presumably for help. Sora actually says he wasn't yet consumed by the darkness when he heard Kairi's voice. Sora didn't become a Heartless the way other people do, after all, so he still had the light in his heart when you play as his adorable Heartless. Something else that actually points towards Sora not actually losing his heart is the fact he does become a Shadow. It's said time and again that powerful hearts make powerful Heartless. So why does Sora, whose heart is very, very strong, become a ''Shadow''? Sora has been wanted repeatedly by the bad guys for his powerful Heartless. Yet when he becomes one it's one of the weakest and most common Heartless? This doesn't really make a lot of sense. This may be because Sora's heart went into a kind of shock thanks to the fact until right then, Sora had something like 266% of a heart, courtesy of Kairi and Ventus. this shock, as well as the fact he still had his light to a degree, may have been why Sora retained a sense of self as a Shadow and who he was. It also might explain why Kairi was able to restore him so easily. He had not made the real split him. Nobody knows where Sora's body went when it disappeared, but since his heart and body never he only produced a puny Shadow, it's likely Sora ''did not produce a Nobody at all'', as only those with strong hearts produce Nobodies. With this in mind, it actually separated. kind of makes sense Kairi's heart of light was able to restore Sora without destroying his Nobody or Heartless. There was no Nobody to destroy, so naturally the rules might be different, as they are for Nobodies who don't have Heartless. It may be that all a Heartless with no Nobody needs is to come in contact with light again to be restored. So again, Sora did not produce a Nobody of himself. He instead went produced one of Kairi and one of Ventus. Unrelated, but I suggest this unusual reversion might be the real reason why Anti-Form exists. Sora's heart is super unstable.

Another thing worth taking
into a stasis account is the fact that Namine... never encounters Ventus in Sora's heart. She never comments about finding things within Sora that she can't touch. She should see Ven, considering he is so intrinsically tied to Sora's heart, but she doesn't. This may mean Ven is not in Sora's heart at the time. Ven's heart does seem to actually be in his Dive to the Heart. This is tricky to explain, but when Sora finds his Power of some kind.Waking, he does not unlock a keyhole over his Station's heart. He instead unlocks a keyhole in the middle of the floor. Yet when he releases Ven's heart, he unlocks a keyhole over Station Ven's heart. This, to me, says Sora isn't unlocking his heart to free Ven's. Instead, it seems that Ven's heart took refuge in his own Station, since it had nowhere else to go on being released from Sora's heart. Sora unlocked the Power of Waking at his own station, and called forth Ven's Station to free Ven's heart. Notably, Sora's Station doesn't transform into Ven's. Sora is floating over a dark abyss that Ven's blooms from.

If Roxas is actually Ven's Nobody, and not Sora's, this would still tie Sora to Ventus, and mean Sora still has part of Ven within him, explaining why Sora has intrusive thoughts and reactions that are actually those of Ventus, when Sora never had that kind of problem before. Roxas, being a Nobody born of pure light, is still tightly connected to his Somebody. Roxas has his connections to Sora mostly courtesy of Namine's tampering and the fact that he is born of Sora's body, just like Namine, but not of Sora's heart.

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