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GoldenAge one-shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. UsefulNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
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GoldenAge one-shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? MediaNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. UsefulNotes/{{The MediaNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
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You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans. Chances are, there's a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Faith Lehane]], a [[Franchise/{{Halo}} SPARTAN-117]], a Silk Specter and anyone you can think of from before 2006.
[[WMG: In Kingdom Come universe, everything ever having to do with DC period is Canon.]]
GoldenAge one shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. UsefulNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
[[WMG: In Kingdom Come universe, everything ever having to do with DC period is Canon.]]
GoldenAge one shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. UsefulNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
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You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans. Chances are, there's a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Faith Lehane]], a [[Franchise/{{Halo}} SPARTAN-117]], a Silk Specter Spectre and anyone you can think of from before 2006.
[[WMG: In the Kingdom Come universe, everything ever having to do with DC period is Canon.]]
GoldenAgeone shots one-shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. UsefulNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
[[WMG: In the Kingdom Come universe, everything ever having to do with DC period is Canon.]]
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*** The Manor could have been rebuilt, and the arm could be bionic or regrown via one of the many mad scientists of TheDCU.
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*** The Manor could have been rebuilt, and the arm could be bionic or regrown via one of the many mad scientists of TheDCU.Franchise/TheDCU.
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You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans. Chances are, there's a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Faith Lehane]], a [[{{Halo}} [[Franchise/{{Halo}} SPARTAN-117]], a Silk Specter and anyone you can think of from before 2006.
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GoldenAge one shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. BronzeAge counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
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GoldenAge one shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. BronzeAge UsefulNotes/{{The Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}} counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
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* You forgot FatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids (arrested by Batbots) and several Marvel characters (seen in the background of the final fight scene) are also somehow canon. Although ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns can't be canon, their are ruins of Wayne Manor look smashed no burned and Green Arrow has two arms
* You forgot FatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids (arrested by Batbots) and several Marvel characters (seen in the background of the final fight scene) are also somehow canon. Although ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns can't be canon, their are ruins of Wayne Manor look smashed no burned and Green Arrow has two arms
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GoldenAge one shots from anthology comics? Canon. Obscure characters from TheInterregnum? UsefulNotes/TheInterregnum? Canon. The SuperFriends ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'' Cartoon? Canon. BronzeAge counterculture characters? Canon. Watchmen? Canon. The Dark Knight returns? Canon. The Batman movies? Canon. The Batman Animated Series? Canon. Stuff done by Vertigo? Canon. How do we know this? Because we see it in the damn book that's why!
* You forgotFatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids ''WesternAnimation/FatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids'' (arrested by Batbots) and several Marvel characters (seen in the background of the final fight scene) are also somehow canon. Although ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' can't be canon, their there are ruins of Wayne Manor look smashed no burned and Green Arrow has two arms arms.
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[[WMG: VandalSavage was TheChessmaster to Luthor's UnwittingPawn .]]
Savage has no real reason to take orders from someone like Luthor. He has his own rescources, wealth and power that, DependingOnTheWriter far exceed those of Lexcorp. So why work under Luthor? In the main story we see Luthor take much of the fall for the disaster at The Gulag, but what if his plan suceeded and much of the world's superhero population was slaughtered in one foul swoop? Savage would be one of the last metahumans in existence, could dispose of Luthor easily and proceed with his constant goal of rebuilding the world in his own image.
Savage has no real reason to take orders from someone like Luthor. He has his own rescources, wealth and power that, DependingOnTheWriter far exceed those of Lexcorp. So why work under Luthor? In the main story we see Luthor take much of the fall for the disaster at The Gulag, but what if his plan suceeded and much of the world's superhero population was slaughtered in one foul swoop? Savage would be one of the last metahumans in existence, could dispose of Luthor easily and proceed with his constant goal of rebuilding the world in his own image.
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* You forgot FatAlbertAndTheCosbyKids (arrested by Batbots) and several Marvel characters (seen in the background of the final fight scene) are also somehow canon. Although DarkKnightReturns ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns can't be canon, their are ruins of Wayne Manor look smashed no burned and Green Arrow has two arms
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A {{Watchmen}} fanboy, if you hadn't figured that out. Most likely a normal human being, but perhaps a metahuman as well. He read Watchmen and like so many others, identified with Rorschach. Maybe not completely, perhaps just the killing criminals part, or perhaps in every way imaginable. It really doesn't matter. So he created his own Rorschach outfit, most likely with some kevlar or mesh in it for safety. The reason we never see him outside of the Bar scene isn't just because he's a cameo, but because he doesn't get involved in the fight. He stays in whatever city he's from, working the streets and dealing with common crime, staying under everyone's radar. Perhaps he and The Question actually work together (they were seen talking in the bar). Perhaps they're just friends. But no matter what, he avoided the entire conflict and is cleaning up the streets of some city, one criminal at a time.
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A {{Watchmen}} ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} fanboy, if you hadn't figured that out. Most likely a normal human being, but perhaps a metahuman as well. He read Watchmen and like so many others, identified with Rorschach. Maybe not completely, perhaps just the killing criminals part, or perhaps in every way imaginable. It really doesn't matter. So he created his own Rorschach outfit, most likely with some kevlar or mesh in it for safety. The reason we never see him outside of the Bar scene isn't just because he's a cameo, but because he doesn't get involved in the fight. He stays in whatever city he's from, working the streets and dealing with common crime, staying under everyone's radar. Perhaps he and The Question actually work together (they were seen talking in the bar). Perhaps they're just friends. But no matter what, he avoided the entire conflict and is cleaning up the streets of some city, one criminal at a time.
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You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans. Chances are, there's a [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Faith Lehane]], a [[{{Halo}} SPARTAN-117]], a Silk Specter and anyone you can think of from before 2006.
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[[WMG: Kingdome Come takes place in the original universe/timeline, or near original (Flashpoint spoilers)]]
As seen above, apparently Watchmen, Vertigo, and the DC main universe are canon in Kingdom Come. 1.5 decades later this seems familiar to the ending note of Flashpoint. The universe was fractured into three, and was then put back together. So we once are now seeing a Doctor Manhattan like Captain Atom in the New 52. Vertigo and Wildstorm are now integrated into the DC proper. I.e. DC has become what Kingdom Come was thought to be, with one exception. Kingdom Come was written prior to Wildstorm and their titles being purchased by DC. There are two scenarios.
First, Kingdom Come depicts the pre-split back together universe (which is different due to splitting, allowing changes to occur and remerging). We just don't see the non-yet aquired Wildstorm cast.
Two, Wildstorm was split off first. Watchman is some fragment or shard that gets lost in the splitting process. We see "Under the Hood", Rorschach in Kingdom Come as it is already breaking loose, flapping at the edges. When it breaks away it snaps the fully powered Captain Atom into two. Part of him remains.... him, for lack of a better descriptive. The other part is Doctor Manhattan.
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You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans.
fans. Chances are, there's a [[BuffyTheVampireSlayer Faith Lehane]], a [[{{Halo}} SPARTAN-117]], a Silk Specter and anyone you can think of from before 2006.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, most of the new heroes are fanboys.]]
You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans.
You want to become a hero, but you can't think of a costume or perhaps all your ideas are taken. Many people have favorite characters, and many people want to become their favorite characters. They see a chance, and they take it. Hence why Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and Iron Man are also seen as well as many other fictional characters not from the main DCU. They're fans.
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[[WMG: The Rorschach seen in the bar is a fanboy.]]
A {{Watchmen}} fanboy, if you hadn't figured that out. Most likely a normal human being, but perhaps a metahuman as well. He read Watchmen and like so many others, identified with Rorschach. Maybe not completely, perhaps just the killing criminals part, or perhaps in every way imaginable. It really doesn't matter. So he created his own Rorschach outfit, most likely with some kevlar or mesh in it for safety. The reason we never see him outside of the Bar scene isn't just because he's a cameo, but because he doesn't get involved in the fight. He stays in whatever city he's from, working the streets and dealing with common crime, staying under everyone's radar. Perhaps he and The Question actually work together (they were seen talking in the bar). Perhaps they're just friends. But no matter what, he avoided the entire conflict and is cleaning up the streets of some city, one criminal at a time.
A {{Watchmen}} fanboy, if you hadn't figured that out. Most likely a normal human being, but perhaps a metahuman as well. He read Watchmen and like so many others, identified with Rorschach. Maybe not completely, perhaps just the killing criminals part, or perhaps in every way imaginable. It really doesn't matter. So he created his own Rorschach outfit, most likely with some kevlar or mesh in it for safety. The reason we never see him outside of the Bar scene isn't just because he's a cameo, but because he doesn't get involved in the fight. He stays in whatever city he's from, working the streets and dealing with common crime, staying under everyone's radar. Perhaps he and The Question actually work together (they were seen talking in the bar). Perhaps they're just friends. But no matter what, he avoided the entire conflict and is cleaning up the streets of some city, one criminal at a time.
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** Rorschach and The Question are seen talking in the bar. So, perhaps Doc wasn't kidding with the "doubt he'll make it back to civilization". He tossed him into this universe.
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