History WMG / KantaiCollection

This winter season, Kancolle will get its anime while Arpeggio will be getting TheMovie. Is there a better occasion to host another crossover event? Plus, Arpeggio's story has advanced to include and/or shed more light to a few more interesting new ships (Vampire, Yukikaze, Repulse, etc).

And it doesn't care what is going on at the surface, it doesn't even bother. Everything that happens is just a side effect of ships having come to close to it when they sank. That would practically turn the whole setting into one huge CosmicHorrorStory.

This would at least apply to the Abyssals which have clear ties to active shipgirls. In classic YamatoDamashi fashion the 'souls' of the defeated IJN ships were literally hell-bent on overcoming those that defeated them and ended up following ImperialJapan's method of taking what they deemed advantageous from the superior side. This would reconcile the idea of them being ex-IJN (and Third Reich) ships with that of them being Allied ships at the same time - they're Axis ships supernaturally 'modernized' with Allied equipment.

In this world, the OTL Axis powers-or at least Japan-are free and democratic and defending themselves against a fascist US and her allies. The Abyssal fleet is the results of American attempts to make their own kanmusu.

Aside from the fact that close to everyone is a personification of some sort (whether ships or countries), it wouldn't be surprising if the Admiral the IJN ship girls answer to is [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1194418 Japan]] [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1230317 himself.]]

* Alternatively, both Kancolle and Arpeggio happened on the same timeline but branched out differently; two different branches from the same trunk, so to speak.

They're the grudges of the ''allied ships'' sunk by the IJN during the war. This theory was brought about by the fact that Abyssal Fleet ships use the English system of measurement for their gun calibers (5 inch, 8 inch, etc.), in contrast to the metric system used by the kanmusus (12.7 cm, 41 cm, etc.). If these were kanmusus sunk by careless admirals, as the fandom thinks, then wouldn't they be using the same measuring system? The thing is (and this was after watching documentaries like Discovery channel's Battlefield series), only the calibers of US ships are ever described in this way.

More accurately, Kantai Collection takes place after Manga/ArpeggioOfBlueSteel. Sometimes during or after the war against the Fleet of Fog, humanity managed to either capture or re-create them, putting them under the control of humanity like Iona, as well as developing the technology far enough so that even destroyers and minor ships get to have their own Mental Models as well. Sometimes further after, the new Fleet of Fog, now called ''kanmusu'' or shipgirls to avoid the negative connotation of the old name (or the technology has advanced to the point they are different things), gained relatively equal rights with humanity and they are eventually assimilated into human society thanks to their new appearance. It is quite likely that somewhere in between, the nanomaterial used to build the "dummies" of the Fleet of Fog also advanced to the point it can be used to mimick human body perfectly while retaining the same destructive power.

* Crossover events aren't proof for or against this theory. Take the [[http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Versus short story crossover fight]] between [[LightNovel/SwordArtOnline Kirito]] and [[LightNovel/AccelWorld Silver Crow]]. It's implied in-series that the ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'' setting is the future of the ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' setting. The fight, however, was straight-up portal crossover, and wasn't canon in any way that would change either setting. No TimeTravel worries.

* Crossover events aren't proof for or against this theory. Take the [[http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Versus short story crossover fight]] between [[LightNovel/SwordArtOnline Kirito]] and [[LightNovel/AccelWorld Silver Crow]]. It's implied in-series that the ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'' seting is the future of the ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' setting. The fight, however, was straight-up portal crossover, and wasn't canon in any way that would change either setting. No TimeTravel worries.

* Crossover events aren't proof for or against this theory. Take the [[http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Versus short story crossover fight]] between [[LightNovel/SwordArtOnline Kirito]] and [[LightNovel/AccelWorld Silver Crow]]. It's implied that the ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'' seting is the future of the ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' setting. It wasn't canon in any way that would change either setting.

* Crossover events aren't proof for or against this theory. Take the [[http://swordartonline.wikia.com/wiki/Versus short story crossover fight]] between [[LightNovel/SwordArtOnline Kirito]]and [[LightNovel/AccelWorld Silver Crow]]. It's implied that the ''LightNovel/AccelWorld'' seting is the future of the ''LightNovel/SwordArtOnline'' setting. It wasn't canon in any way that would change either setting.

[[WMG: The setting is the future of [[Anime/StrikeWitches]].]]

As for the Abyssal Fleet, they might be TheRemnant of the original Fleet of Fog, or other projects that might or might not be the precursors or ship girls.

The {{Crossover}} event in Christmas 2013 suggests that the weapons of ship girls cannot penetrate the Klein Field of the enemy. However, it takes but modifications (presumably to be rather simple, seeing that the entire arsenal can be modified without consuming many resources, and the Abyssal Fleet also get to have them) to make them only slightly less powerful than the Fleet of Fog. Combined with the fact that ship girls are stated by canon to be somewhat human in size, that means that ship girl technology is actually more advanced than the Fleet of Fog despite the objective differences in firepower. This technology is also seen in the form of repair buckets, which can instantly repair Fog ships, as well as Damage Control equipment, which can prevent them from sinking; the Repair Goddess in particular can even restore a Fog ship to full health, fuel and ammo instantaneously. The Fleet of Fog has no known equipment with anywhere close to similar functions.

[[WMG:Kantai Collection and ArpeggioOfBlueSteel takes place in the same universe.]]

More accurately, Kantai Collection takes place after ArpeggioOfBlueSteel. Sometimes during or after the war against the Fleet of Fog, humanity managed to either capture or re-create them, putting them under the control of humanity like Iona, as well as developing the technology far enough so that even destroyers and minor ships get to have their own Mental Models as well. Sometimes further after, the new Fleet of Fog, now called ''kanmusu'' or shipgirls to avoid the negative connotation of the old name (or the technology has advanced to the point they are different things), gained relatively equal rights with humanity and they are eventually assimilated into human society thanks to their new appearance. It is quite likely that somewhere in between, the nanomaterial used to build the "dummies" of the Fleet of Fog also advanced to the point it can be used to mimick human body perfectly while retaining the same destructive power.

The {{Crossover}} event in Christmas 2013 suggests that the weapons of ship girls cannot penetrate the Klein Field of the enemy. However, it takes but modifications (presumably to be rather simple, seeing that the entire arsenal can be modified without consuming many resources, and the Abyssal Fleet also get to have them) to make them only slightly less powerful than the Fleet of Fog. Combined with the fact that ship girls are stated by canon to be somewhat human in size, that means that ship girl technology is actually more advanced than the Fleet of Fog despite the objective differences in firepower.

Which makes one wonder if the monstrous forms of the Abyssal Fleet are simply a type of glamour to make it easier to fight the Abyssal Fleet... instead of fellow shipgirls of the US navy just doing their own missions (like, oh, defending vital airfields), while the US-aligned shipgirls think ''they're'' fending off the monstrous forces of the Abyssal Fleet...

This was brought on recently by the realization that the (as of this writing) [[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2013_Event Fall 2013 Event]] is based on the freaking '''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal NavalBattle of Guadalcanal]]''', down to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Battleship_bombardment_of_Henderson_Field bombardment of Henderson Field]] for the final phase of the event. Heck, the third phase (E-3) is even titled '''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironbottom_Sound Ironbottom Sound]]''', the area between Savo Island and Guadalcanal where many ships the kanmusus are based on met their end.

Which makes one wonder if the monstrous forms of the Abyssal Fleet are simply a type of glamour to make it easier to fight the Abyssal Fleet... instead of fellow shipgirls of the US navy just doing their own missions (like, oh, defending vital airfields).

Add to the fact that the Fall 2013 seems to be a direct reference to the aforementioned Naval Battles of Guadalcanal (down to starting with night battles, something the IJN mainly did during that campaign), it's easy to put the two together... Which makes one wonder

This was brought on recently by the realization that the (as of this writing) [[http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2013_Event Fall 2013 Event]] is based on the freaking '''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Naval_Battle_of_Guadalcanal NavalBattle of Guadalcanal]]''', down to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guadalcanal#Battleship_bombardment_of_Henderson_Field bombardment of Henderson Field]] for the final phase of the event. Heck, the third phase (E-3) is even titled '''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironbottom_Sound Ironbottom Sound]]''', the area between Savo Island and Guadalcanal where many ships the kanmusus are based on met their end.