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3rd Aug '16 2:49:05 PM WhatTheSpoot
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**{{Jossed}} by WordOfGod. Someone asked Jhonen about this and he said Squee would grow up just fine.
7th Jan '16 2:06:26 PM phoenix
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[[WMG: The Moose is {{Zalgo}}.]]

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[[WMG: The Moose is {{Zalgo}}.WebOriginal/{{Zalgo}}.]]
8th Oct '15 4:06:22 PM nombretomado
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[[AC:Main/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac]]

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Am I the only one who seems to notice this? Every colored drawing of [[JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac JtHM]] shows Krik with very pale skin, when it's all but spelled out that he isn't caucasian. Take, for example, the way he behaves and dresses. It seems highly reminiscent of a black man in the 90s motivated by gangsta rap music. He's a misogynist, he curses constantly, and [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday he's constantly trying to accentuate his manliness]] to the point that he'll beat up a "fag" like Nny just for being skinny and dressing differently. Not to mention the fact that Nny stated his crime against society as thus: "Using racial oppression as a crutch while only reinforcing old stereotypes". If you read closely, [[UnfortunateImplications it would seem that Jhonen didn't think too highly of black people during that time]].

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Am I the only one who seems to notice this? Every colored drawing of [[JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac [[ComicBook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac JtHM]] shows Krik with very pale skin, when it's all but spelled out that he isn't caucasian. Take, for example, the way he behaves and dresses. It seems highly reminiscent of a black man in the 90s motivated by gangsta rap music. He's a misogynist, he curses constantly, and [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday he's constantly trying to accentuate his manliness]] to the point that he'll beat up a "fag" like Nny just for being skinny and dressing differently. Not to mention the fact that Nny stated his crime against society as thus: "Using racial oppression as a crutch while only reinforcing old stereotypes". If you read closely, [[UnfortunateImplications it would seem that Jhonen didn't think too highly of black people during that time]].
25th May '15 8:40:59 PM ShinyTsukkomi
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** Probably not. InvaderZim seems to take place in the ''future'' of Johnny's world, not the past.

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** Probably not. InvaderZim ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' seems to take place in the ''future'' of Johnny's world, not the past.
15th Mar '15 5:25:00 PM nombretomado
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*** Most of the things I listed aside from the last one were padding, I'll admit that, but the last point I made is still important. I doubt that, in the 90s, Nny would have been ranting against a white man pulling the "race card" and using it as an excuse to act like a thuggish buffoon. Also, I don't recall Jhonen ever drawing black people in a "dark tone". An example is Tenna/Tonja, who outside of the full-color I Feel Sick series is never given any shading that would indicate a different race. Another example is one of the random people Johnny kills in Cafe Le Prick(I think he put a meat cleaver in his face) who was sporting a [[FreshPrinceOfBelAir Fresh Price-era Will Smith-style haircut]]. I don't think he was dark-toned, either.

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*** Most of the things I listed aside from the last one were padding, I'll admit that, but the last point I made is still important. I doubt that, in the 90s, Nny would have been ranting against a white man pulling the "race card" and using it as an excuse to act like a thuggish buffoon. Also, I don't recall Jhonen ever drawing black people in a "dark tone". An example is Tenna/Tonja, who outside of the full-color I Feel Sick series is never given any shading that would indicate a different race. Another example is one of the random people Johnny kills in Cafe Le Prick(I think he put a meat cleaver in his face) who was sporting a [[FreshPrinceOfBelAir [[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir Fresh Price-era Prince-era Will Smith-style haircut]]. I don't think he was dark-toned, either.
31st Jan '15 2:22:46 AM rimd123
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**** Johnny's Twitter is run by Jhonen himself. Therefore, I'd say it does qualify as WOG.
30th Jan '15 8:37:10 PM Joshi
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*** You know some random fan twitter isn't word of God.. right?
28th Sep '14 5:06:19 PM Necromaster
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* There's a possibility he was an infernalist mage before he went mad. There is a specific ritual in Dark Thaumaturgy that involves painting a wall in blood to summon a demon...Maybe Johnny just continued to perform the ritual out of habit, keeping the demon bound.

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* There's a possibility he was an infernalist mage before he went mad. There is a specific ritual in Dark Thaumaturgy that involves painting a wall in blood to summon a demon... Maybe Johnny just continued to perform the ritual out of habit, keeping the demon bound.



** I would love to continue this with "Nny being hispanic shows he wasn't liking much of anybody during this time" but, alas.... I'm really sure the reason you're the only one to see it is because it doesn't exist. Eminem and Fred Durst etc where also popular during this time along with all the little white boys playing gangsta. As you mentioned, even the coloured drawings show him white. The few black characters Johnen has are typically shown dark toned. Except for your last reason, that all seemed very stereotyped against black people yourself :/

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** * I would love to continue this with "Nny being hispanic Hispanic shows he wasn't liking much of anybody during this time" but, alas.... I'm really sure the reason you're the only one to see it is because it doesn't exist. Eminem and Fred Durst etc where also popular during this time along with all the little white boys playing gangsta. As you mentioned, even the coloured drawings show him white. The few black characters Johnen has are typically shown dark toned. Except for your last reason, that all seemed very stereotyped against black people yourself :/
28th Sep '14 5:04:43 PM Necromaster
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* No, what makes Mr. Casil different from other father figures is that Nny knows said father figure's kid personally and doesn't want to cause him any mental damage. Also, his main targets seem to be mid-twenty year olds out socialising, hardly the discription of the average parent.

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* No, what makes Mr. Casil different from other father figures is that Nny knows said father figure's kid personally and doesn't want to cause him any mental damage. Also, his main targets seem to be mid-twenty year olds out socialising, socializing, hardly the discription description of the average parent.



Johnny never gets caught, and his crimes defy reality because he's using magic unconsciously to escape. The massacre in issue three really started straining the fabric of reality and paradox. When he goes to hell at the end of issue five, he didn't die, he simply gets shunted into his own paradox realm.
** There's a possibility he was an infernalist mage before he went mad. There is a specific ritual in Dark Thaumaturgy that involves painting a wall in blood to summon a demon...Maybe Johnny just continued to perform the ritual out of habit, keeping the demon bound.

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Johnny never gets caught, and his crimes defy reality because he's using magic unconsciously using magic to escape. The massacre in issue three really started straining the fabric of reality and paradox. When he goes went to hell at the end of issue five, he didn't die, he simply gets got shunted into his own paradox realm.
** * There's a possibility he was an infernalist mage before he went mad. There is a specific ritual in Dark Thaumaturgy that involves painting a wall in blood to summon a demon...Maybe Johnny just continued to perform the ritual out of habit, keeping the demon bound.



''If'' what Reverend Meat implied is true (that Nny had sex with someone before his amnesia), the girl he did it with may have been Squee's mom. By the time she found out she was pregnant, she would have already been with the guy now believed to be Squee's dad. Believing the kid was his, he felt obliged to marry her and take care of him... Sort of... Half assedly at best.

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''If'' what Reverend Meat implied is true (that Nny had sex with someone before his amnesia), the girl he did it with may have been Squee's mom. By the time she found out she was pregnant, she would have already been with the guy now believed to be Squee's dad. Believing the kid was his, he felt obliged to marry her and take care of him... Sort of... Half assedly Half-assedly at best.



[[WMG: Devi and Squee succumb to maddness and find Johnny again]]

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[[WMG: Devi and Squee succumb to maddness madness and find Johnny again]]
28th Jun '14 12:25:14 AM Vermiis
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[[WMG: Johnny became the Postal Dude]]
He moved to Arizona and dyed his hair red. They have similar frames and a similar psychopathic outlook on life. He clearly got over his distaste for guns. Maybe the pacifist run potential in Postal 2 is Johnny trying to move past his murderous ways?
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