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19th Dec '15 5:35:18 PM nombretomado
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Tying into, but adding a ''sensational'' twist to, comics mythos… [[spoiler: creating the new [[SheHulk spinoff franchise]].]]
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Tying into, but adding a ''sensational'' twist to, comics mythos… [[spoiler: creating the new [[SheHulk [[ComicBook/SheHulk spinoff franchise]].]]
28th Nov '15 4:16:59 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Either Iron Man 4 or [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderman Amazing Spiderman 2]] will be an adaptation of SecretInvasion]]
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[[WMG: Either Iron Man 4 or [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderman Amazing Spiderman 2]] ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderman2'' will be an adaptation of SecretInvasion]]''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'']]
17th Oct '15 10:07:31 AM Anddrix
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** {{SelfDemonstrating/Thanos}} has already been confirmed to be its BigBad.
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** {{SelfDemonstrating/Thanos}} ComicBook/{{Thanos}} has already been confirmed to be its BigBad.
3rd Oct '15 7:50:31 PM SuddenFrost
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* This and the previous entry were Jossed by ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. Tony doesn't make any mention of having Extremis, and he doesn't display any enhanced abilities.
17th Jul '15 2:37:50 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Now, Kilian's mooks probably had just as diverse a range of subconscious quirks and misconceptions as the other would-be supersoldier characters, yet because Extremis gets its cues from the brain's body-monitoring region instead of the subconscious, they maintained a human shape even when they were healing. The formula ''did'' kick into overdrive when they got stressed, much like Banner's does, except the excess mass beyond what the human anatomy required would be instantly converted to heat, not bulk. If Banner can learn enough about how the brain suppresses excess growth of tissue from Pepper's Extremis case, and he (or maybe Stark) can devise a heat-sink mechanism that averts the risk of blowing up, he could keep the Hulk in check permanently, or at least reduce "the other guy" to something human-sized, hence less destructive and conspicuous.
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* Now, Kilian's mooks probably had just as diverse a range of subconscious quirks and misconceptions as the other would-be supersoldier characters, yet because Extremis gets its cues from the brain's body-monitoring region instead of the subconscious, they maintained a human shape even when they were healing. The formula ''did'' kick into overdrive when they got stressed, much like Banner's does, except the excess mass beyond what the human anatomy required would be instantly converted to heat, not bulk. If Banner can learn enough about how the brain suppresses excess growth of tissue from Pepper's Extremis case, and he (or maybe Stark) can devise a heat-sink mechanism that averts the risk of blowing up, he could keep the Hulk in check permanently, or at least reduce "the other guy" to something human-sized, hence less destructive and conspicuous.conspicuous. [[WMG: The [[spoiler:real]] Mandarin is the son/grandson of Genghis Khan.]] The Mandarin is mentioned to have been around [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld since the Middle Ages]], and in the comics is a descendant of Genghis Khan. If he really is that old, he could be...a much closer descendant.
2nd Jun '15 5:04:27 PM SharleeD
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It's surmised above that Extremis is yet another variant of the super-soldier formula, but one with heat as a byproduct or side effect. Rather, the heat could be a consequence of this version of the formula being constrained in how much bulk it can add to the human body: enough to repair damage; not enough to make the subject grow, with any excess tissue-growth being converted to thermal energy rather than mass. In other variants, the super-soldier formula seems to be directed by the subject's self-image, even if that image isn't accurate. Schmidt was a psychopath who wanted the power to deal death at will, and wound up a superhuman with a skull-face. Blonsky was a combat addict who got off on battle, who felt "like a monster" and liked it; the formula made his body match. Rogers, the one real success-story, always had a skewed idea of his own physical capabilities ("I can do this all day"), but still thought of himself as basically just a kid from Brooklyn: he stayed human because he never, even subconsciously, thought he was special. With Extremis, the variant-formula doesn't make a person into the embodiment of their self-image, because it's been redirected to maintain the body in its proper physical state, as determined by the somatosensory cortex rather than whatever nodes of self-awareness is usually tapped in potential super-soldiers. That brain region tracks the body's movements and sensations, so perceives it as it is, not as what the subconscious presumes it to be. It's also the region responsible for "phantom limb" sensations in amputees, as it remembers the missing part from when it was present: hence, Extremis's ability to regenerate lost body parts. What's this distinction got to do with Banner? Because Banner's ability to transform into the Hulk isn't really the extraordinary thing about his case: it's his ability to ''change back again'' that's unique. Schmidt and Blonsky are permanent monsters, and Rogers never reverted to being a shrimp. Presumably everyone's been blaming this on the gamma-radiation factor, but the Extremis users -- people whose control of their formula-imbued abilities are ''also'' linked to their emotional stability and self-control -- suggest it may not be that, at all. Rather, it may be that the super-soldier formula is working ''exactly as it should'', with Banner; indeed, it's still active in his system, kept constantly at work by the gamma radiation in his blood. Small wonder, that Mr. Blue could make it transmissible: Banner's variant of the formula never shuts down. So why's it only transform him into the Hulk if he's angry or stressed? Simple: just as he's always angry, Banner is ''always'' affected by the super-soldier formula. It's just that, most of the time, he thinks of himself as exactly what he was before the accident: a regular human being, very smart but not otherwise special. He didn't have any particular hang-ups or aspirations for the formula to manifest... none, that is, except that he could be a real grouch and blow his top sometimes, when he got too fed up or mad. Which wasn't even all that bad of a problem, really - everyone needs to blow off steam sometimes - except he ''hated'' his own temper, thinking it far worse than it was, and believing it made him like a big ugly ogre to release such emotions. It was this misconception about himself (and it ''is'' a misconception, otherwise the Hulk would be a villain) that the formula initially latched onto when he ran his ProfessorGuineaPig experiment, and that it ''keeps'' manifesting when his mood aligns with what he'd thought of as his "monster" side. Now, Kilian's mooks probably had just as diverse a range of subconscious quirks and misconceptions as the other would-be supersoldier characters, yet because Extremis gets its cues from the brain's body-monitoring region instead of the subconscious, they maintained a human shape even when they were healing. The formula ''did'' kick into overdrive when they got stressed, much like Banner's does, except the excess mass beyond what the human anatomy required would be instantly converted to heat, not bulk. If Banner can learn enough about how the brain suppresses excess growth of tissue from Pepper's Extremis case, and he (or maybe Stark) can devise a heat-sink mechanism that averts the risk of blowing up, he could keep the Hulk in check permanently, or at least reduce "the other guy" to something human-sized, hence less destructive and conspicuous.
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* It's surmised above that Extremis is yet another variant of the super-soldier formula, but one with heat as a byproduct or side effect. Rather, the heat could be a consequence of this version of the formula being constrained in how much bulk it can add to the human body: enough to repair damage; not enough to make the subject grow, with any excess tissue-growth being converted to thermal energy rather than mass. * In other variants, the super-soldier formula seems to be directed by the subject's self-image, even if that image isn't accurate. Schmidt was a psychopath who wanted the power to deal death at will, and wound up a superhuman with a skull-face. Blonsky was a combat addict who got off on battle, who felt "like a monster" and liked it; the formula made his body match. Rogers, the one real success-story, always had a skewed idea of his own physical capabilities ("I can do this all day"), but still thought of himself as basically just a kid from Brooklyn: he stayed human because he never, even subconsciously, thought he was special. * With Extremis, the variant-formula doesn't make a person into the embodiment of their self-image, because it's been redirected to maintain the body in its proper physical state, as determined by the somatosensory cortex rather than whatever nodes of self-awareness is usually tapped in potential super-soldiers. That brain region tracks the body's movements and sensations, so perceives it as it is, not as what the subconscious presumes it to be. It's also the region responsible for "phantom limb" sensations in amputees, as it remembers the missing part from when it was present: hence, Extremis's ability to regenerate lost body parts. What's *What's this distinction got to do with Banner? Because Banner's ability to transform into the Hulk isn't really the extraordinary thing about his case: it's his ability to ''change back again'' that's unique. Schmidt and Blonsky are permanent monsters, and Rogers never reverted to being a shrimp. Presumably everyone's been blaming this on the gamma-radiation factor, but the Extremis users -- people whose control of their formula-imbued abilities are ''also'' linked to their emotional stability and self-control -- suggest it may not be that, at all. Rather, it may be that the super-soldier formula is working ''exactly as it should'', with Banner; indeed, it's still active in his system, kept constantly at work by the gamma radiation in his blood. Small wonder, that Mr. Blue could make it transmissible: Banner's variant of the formula never shuts down. * So why's it only transform him into the Hulk if he's angry or stressed? Simple: just as he's always angry, Banner is ''always'' affected by the super-soldier formula. It's just that, most of the time, he thinks of himself as exactly what he was before the accident: a regular human being, very smart but not otherwise special. He didn't have any particular hang-ups or aspirations for the formula to manifest... none, that is, except that he could be a real grouch and blow his top sometimes, when he got too fed up or mad. Which wasn't even all that bad of a problem, really - everyone needs to blow off steam sometimes - except he ''hated'' his own temper, thinking it far worse than it was, and believing it made him like a big ugly ogre to release such emotions. It was this misconception about himself (and it ''is'' a misconception, otherwise the Hulk would be a villain) that the formula initially latched onto when he ran his ProfessorGuineaPig experiment, and that it ''keeps'' manifesting when his mood aligns with what he'd thought of as his "monster" side. * Now, Kilian's mooks probably had just as diverse a range of subconscious quirks and misconceptions as the other would-be supersoldier characters, yet because Extremis gets its cues from the brain's body-monitoring region instead of the subconscious, they maintained a human shape even when they were healing. The formula ''did'' kick into overdrive when they got stressed, much like Banner's does, except the excess mass beyond what the human anatomy required would be instantly converted to heat, not bulk. If Banner can learn enough about how the brain suppresses excess growth of tissue from Pepper's Extremis case, and he (or maybe Stark) can devise a heat-sink mechanism that averts the risk of blowing up, he could keep the Hulk in check permanently, or at least reduce "the other guy" to something human-sized, hence less destructive and conspicuous.
2nd Jun '15 5:02:56 PM SharleeD
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First clue was from the comics, where AIM started as a subsidiary of HYDRA. It also fits HYDRA's modus operandi, causing chaos and fear in order to obtain power (in this case installing a loyal POTUS in office) and it explains how Project Centipede was able to consider Extremis research without skipping a beat.
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First clue was from the comics, where AIM started as a subsidiary of HYDRA. It also fits HYDRA's modus operandi, causing chaos and fear in order to obtain power (in this case installing a loyal POTUS in office) and it explains how Project Centipede was able to consider Extremis research without skipping a beat.beat. [[WMG: Killian's linkage of Extremis to the somatosensory cortex could offer a potential cure for Banner.]] It's surmised above that Extremis is yet another variant of the super-soldier formula, but one with heat as a byproduct or side effect. Rather, the heat could be a consequence of this version of the formula being constrained in how much bulk it can add to the human body: enough to repair damage; not enough to make the subject grow, with any excess tissue-growth being converted to thermal energy rather than mass. In other variants, the super-soldier formula seems to be directed by the subject's self-image, even if that image isn't accurate. Schmidt was a psychopath who wanted the power to deal death at will, and wound up a superhuman with a skull-face. Blonsky was a combat addict who got off on battle, who felt "like a monster" and liked it; the formula made his body match. Rogers, the one real success-story, always had a skewed idea of his own physical capabilities ("I can do this all day"), but still thought of himself as basically just a kid from Brooklyn: he stayed human because he never, even subconsciously, thought he was special. With Extremis, the variant-formula doesn't make a person into the embodiment of their self-image, because it's been redirected to maintain the body in its proper physical state, as determined by the somatosensory cortex rather than whatever nodes of self-awareness is usually tapped in potential super-soldiers. That brain region tracks the body's movements and sensations, so perceives it as it is, not as what the subconscious presumes it to be. It's also the region responsible for "phantom limb" sensations in amputees, as it remembers the missing part from when it was present: hence, Extremis's ability to regenerate lost body parts. What's this distinction got to do with Banner? Because Banner's ability to transform into the Hulk isn't really the extraordinary thing about his case: it's his ability to ''change back again'' that's unique. Schmidt and Blonsky are permanent monsters, and Rogers never reverted to being a shrimp. Presumably everyone's been blaming this on the gamma-radiation factor, but the Extremis users -- people whose control of their formula-imbued abilities are ''also'' linked to their emotional stability and self-control -- suggest it may not be that, at all. Rather, it may be that the super-soldier formula is working ''exactly as it should'', with Banner; indeed, it's still active in his system, kept constantly at work by the gamma radiation in his blood. Small wonder, that Mr. Blue could make it transmissible: Banner's variant of the formula never shuts down. So why's it only transform him into the Hulk if he's angry or stressed? Simple: just as he's always angry, Banner is ''always'' affected by the super-soldier formula. It's just that, most of the time, he thinks of himself as exactly what he was before the accident: a regular human being, very smart but not otherwise special. He didn't have any particular hang-ups or aspirations for the formula to manifest... none, that is, except that he could be a real grouch and blow his top sometimes, when he got too fed up or mad. Which wasn't even all that bad of a problem, really - everyone needs to blow off steam sometimes - except he ''hated'' his own temper, thinking it far worse than it was, and believing it made him like a big ugly ogre to release such emotions. It was this misconception about himself (and it ''is'' a misconception, otherwise the Hulk would be a villain) that the formula initially latched onto when he ran his ProfessorGuineaPig experiment, and that it ''keeps'' manifesting when his mood aligns with what he'd thought of as his "monster" side. Now, Kilian's mooks probably had just as diverse a range of subconscious quirks and misconceptions as the other would-be supersoldier characters, yet because Extremis gets its cues from the brain's body-monitoring region instead of the subconscious, they maintained a human shape even when they were healing. The formula ''did'' kick into overdrive when they got stressed, much like Banner's does, except the excess mass beyond what the human anatomy required would be instantly converted to heat, not bulk. If Banner can learn enough about how the brain suppresses excess growth of tissue from Pepper's Extremis case, and he (or maybe Stark) can devise a heat-sink mechanism that averts the risk of blowing up, he could keep the Hulk in check permanently, or at least reduce "the other guy" to something human-sized, hence less destructive and conspicuous.
2nd Jun '15 4:02:30 PM SharleeD
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* If the Hulk's transformation is solar-powered, how is it that every transformation Banner underwent in the Norton movie happened indoors and/or at night?
28th May '15 7:25:41 AM DanMat6288
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marking two jossed; one is someone else's and the other is my own
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* [[spoiler:Jossed. [[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron He becomes Vision instead]].]]

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* [[spoiler: Sadly, unless it's joining whatever [[Series/AgentsOfSHIELD Coulson's new S.H.I.E.L.D.]] grows to be by then, [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier it can't happen anymore]].]]
25th Apr '15 2:35:48 PM RookEncounte
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* Alternatively, [[spoiler: the real Mandarin wants Trevor to work for him, possible to run the PR/communications side of things. Since Trevor has already been arrested for pretending to be a terrorist (and has told everybody that the actual terrorism was Killian's fault), any more "terrorist" activities he gets involved in will just seem like him trying to keep his fame.]]
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