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And each level of the dream will be directed by a different big name, with the first level and the real world directed by Nolan.

* This troper, too, thought, "this is a sneaking mission". But before that, I assumed Fischer liked playing ''ModernWarfare''.

[[WMG:{{Minecraft}} takes place in limbo]]

* Out of curiosity, does anyone remember why the dream-insertion technology was invented in the first place? That's right, [[MetalGearSolid2 to allow the American military to train soldiers in VR environments that would closely simulate actual combat.]]

* You might want to read some Creator/PhilipKDick (anything from ''VALIS'' on) and Creator/GrantMorrison's ''TheInvisibles'' if you want your head messed with some more.

[[WMG: Mal is [[HouseOfLeaves The Minotaur]]]]

[[WMG: HouseOfLeaves takes place in the world of Inception]]
The main character is contantly going between mutiple layers of dreams; the layer where he's putting the book together, and layer with him experiencing the book, and the layer with him experiencing the film. The House is his vault, and the Minotaur is his security. By having him analyze the deeper layers of his dreams, the team hopes he will reveal some key to getting through the House. A Team of agents are trying to get some key information out of his vault, but the Minotaur picks off the team one by one. Eventually, only the target is let, unable to distuinguish between the layers of the dream and eventually plunging into Limbo. There he finds the repressed shade of his insane mother, who'se letters and death deeply disturbed him.

[[WMG: SuzumiyaHaruhi takes place in the world of Inception]]

* You might want to read some Creator/PhilipKDick (anything from ''VALIS'' on) and GrantMorrison's ''TheInvisibles'' if you want your head messed with some more.

[[WMG: Robert Fischer is an alternate universe [[GossipGirl Chuck Bass]].]]

[[WMG: TheCell is a prequel to Inception]]

* You might want to read some PhilipKDick (anything from ''VALIS'' on) and GrantMorrison's ''TheInvisibles'' if you want your head messed with some more.

[[WMG: Inception and TheSandman take place in one world]]
The fourth level of a drem exist and it's the Dreaming.

And each level of the dream will be directed by a different big name, with the first level and the real world directed by Nolan.

His totem doesn't make the least amount of sense; the others have things with secret characteristics, whereas his is just somehow supposed to spin forever if he is dreaming. He regularly tries stunts that would have a slim chance of working in *his* dreams, let alone somebody else's two levels down. The stunt with the chair, for instance. The solution that readily presents itself is

The origin of the dream to which he refers in his famous speech. It was probably done by someone who wanted him to be assassinated. Perhaps a childhood rival?

** Dude, Mal would be [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E07AmysChoice Cobb's Dream Lord counterpart.]] Manifestation of self-loathing and all...

-->''"You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."''

[[WMG:Inception takes place in the same universe as [[spoiler:VanillaSky.]]]]

* This troper had a rather surreal experience after walking out of the movie, considering that neither she nor her friends could remember the way back to the car and wandered for a time in a crowded mall. I had a DejaVu moment when I thought I saw a store I recognized, then thought it was on the wrong side, and neither of my friends had noticed it at all on the way in, nor could remember me pointing it out to them...

* There's actually evidence for this. Cobb is a theif who uses Xanatos Roulette's to get his job done. In Christopher Nolan's first film, "Following", there's a theif named Cobb who uses Xanatos Roulettes to get his job done. Similar characters in multiple films by the same director? Coincidence. Said characters having the same name? Time Lord.

As discussed in the ItJustBugsMe section, the "Arthur has a couple of minutes" was actually exaggerating how much time he had. He actually came up with the zero-gravity kick in less time than that. And let's not forgot the major beat-down he laid on all of Fischer's security throughout the hotel level. So, brilliant tactician and intimidating combatant in a movie directed by Christopher Nolan? Obviously Batman. He's probably training himself in dream technology in case he ever has to use it to save Gotham or someone tries to use it against him.

[[WMG: It IS all a dream: Christopher Nolan's Dream]]

[[WMG: Christopher Nolan wrote the movie as such that there would be so much left for debate and questioning on purpose. His movie was really popular and got lots of publicity. Oh, and people wanted to see it more than once to understand the movie. Nolan's a sneaky one! (Not to say the movie wasn't freaking awesome, because it was... so, so good) ]]

ChristopherNolan devised a similar ending for Film/{{Memento}}: the whole film conserving detail as the plot unfolded to try and lead us in different directions, but then the ending [[spoiler:throws details everywhere to make us completely rethink who the killer is.]] Essentially, the ending was supposed to make us question everything that happened before, and we are supposed to be confused. Incorporate this ideology to the entire film, and what was once a hard logical plot now becomes a work of art that was designed with consistencies to lead us and misdirect us from the fact that it is actually a film with an ending full of MindScrew.

[[WMG: Everybody, at some point, performs inception on somebody else.]]

-->"You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."
-->--'''Eames'''

[[WMG: Freddy Kruger was the origin of the Shared Dreaming technology]]

Someone planted the idea in your mind that you did see such a movie.

* Alternatively, the whole movie is a dream: This is Cobb's first attempt at Inception. He got into Rose's dream, in which she is a woman who survived the Titanic. As the scientists ask her questions, Cobb goes down one dream level and introduces himself as Jack Dawson to a visually young version of her. He successfully gets out of Rose's dream. Unfortunately, since this is his first attempt, he was not sure how to get Rose out of the dream. When she died in her sleep on the first dream level, she went into limbo, forever trapped in a dream in which she is still with Jack Dawson on the ''Titanic.''

So here's what I'm thinking. What we are looking at is a heavily altered plot destined for part of the Dark Knight Trilogy, with the focus changed to the {{Villain Protagonist}}, Dr. Hugo Strange. In Inception, Cobb is trying to stop a man from maintaining his father's legacy/global empire. In the original version, it was Hugo Strange mounting a full on assault on Bruce Wayne's psyche, trying to stop him from continuing as Batman, so that Strange could take over. Bruce's psyche is extremely dangerous though. Training From the League of Assassins has allowed him to weaponize his subconscious, meaning that Strange and his team (probably sparser in the original story) are facing armed gunmen. Since they aren't actually going to kill the team, I think it's reasonable to assume they could be in Batman's mind, although they might have been ninjas in the original, given how he hates guns. At the ending, instead of [[spoiler: his dying father persuading Fischer to abandon the conglomeration]], the vault would have contained Bruce's dying parents, begging him to abandon his quest of justice. And of course, you'd think Batman's falling for it, until he disappears/grabs the dying pair and begins going full Batman on the pair [[spoiler: of shapeshifting imposters, with Strange playing his father]], because you think he's been falling for it, but he's realized this is a psychic attack for a good part of the movie. The studios rejected this plot as part 3 of the Dark Knight Trilogy as just being too abstract and wild, but let Nolan use it for a different movie he wanted to make. I have no evidence for this whatsoever, and there's a good chance that Nolan came up with the story for Inception long before he Knew he'd get to make the Dark Knight series. That said, the fact that Inception is about a psychologically based full on assault on an unexpectedly (and seemingly impossibly) prepared multi-billionaire suggests that maybe, just maybe, the whole story was originally proposed as a finale for {{Film/The Dark Knight Saga}}, and the only way Nolan would get to make the move he wanted was to claim that the idea was older than reality, to avoid plagiarism claims (apparently the idea was used in an old Uncle Scrooge comic book, seriously).

*** So in essence, Mal is Heath Ledger and Inception is partly an expression of Nolan's guilt and depression during the making of ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. And/or Terry Gilliam's during ''TheImaginariumofDoctorParnassus''.

** It might not be. Eames is shown in the first scene with two stacks of counterfeit poker chips. Arthur may have been referring to the fact that Eames can never make them look completely legitimate. After all, he apparently can't even spell the brand name correctly.

* Maybe Eames and Arthur were shooting craps or playing poker one time, they had partaken in some adult beverages, and they wagered their totems. Eames seems like the gambling type and maybe originally had the loaded di as his totem and lost it to Arthur.

So here's what I'm thinking. What we are looking at is a heavily altered plot destined for part of the Dark Knight Trilogy, with the focus changed to the {{Villain Protagonist}}, Dr. Hugo Strange. In Inception, Cobb is trying to stop a man from maintaining his father's legacy/global empire. In the original version, it was Hugo Strange mounting a full on assault on Bruce Wayne's psyche, trying to stop him from continuing as Batman, so that Strange could take over. Bruce's psyche is extremely dangerous though. Training From the League of Assassins has allowed him to weaponize his subconscious, meaning that Strange and his team (probably sparser in the original story) are facing armed gunmen. Since they aren't actually going to kill the team, I think it's reasonable to assume they could be in Batman's mind, although they might have been ninjas in the original, given how he hates guns. At the ending, instead of [[spoiler: his dying father persuading Fischer to abandon the conglomeration]], the vault would have contained Bruce's dying parents, begging him to abandon his quest of justice. And of course, you'd think Batman's falling for it, until he disappears/grabs the dying pair and begins going full Batman on the pair [[spoiler: of shapeshifting imposters, with Strange playing his father]], because you think he's been falling for it, but he's realized this is a psychic attack for a good part of the movie. The studios rejected this plot as part 3 of the Dark Knight Trilogy as just being too abstract and wild, but let Nolan use it for a different movie he wanted to make. I have no evidence for this whatsoever, and there's a good chance that Nolan came up with the story for Inception long before he Knew he'd get to make the Dark Knight series. That said, the fact that Inception is about a psychologically based full on assault on an unexpectedly (and seemingly impossibly) prepared multi-billionaire suggests that maybe, just maybe, the whole story was originally proposed as a finale for {{Film/The Dark Knight Saga}}, and the only way Nolan would get to make the move he wanted was to claim that the idea was older than reality, to avoid plagiarism claims (apparently the idea was used in an old {{Comic Book/The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck
}} comic book, seriously).

[[WMG: This entire story is an aborted Batman plot]]

So here's what I'm thinking. What we are looking at is a heavily altered plot destined for part of the Dark Knight Trilogy, with the focus changed to the {{Villain Protagonist}}, Dr. Hugo Strange. In Inception, Cobb is trying to stop a man from maintaining his father's legacy/global empire. In the original version, it was Hugo Strange mounting a full on assault on Bruce Wayne's psyche, trying to stop him from continuing as Batman, so that Strange could take over. Batman's psyche is dangerous though. Training From the League of Assassins has allowed him to weaponize his subconscious, meaning that Strange and his team (probably sparser in the original story), are facing armed gunmen. Since they aren't actually going to kill the team, I think it's reasonable to assume they could be in Batman's mind, although they might have been ninjas in the original, given how he hates guns. At the ending, instead of [[spoiler: his dying father persuading Fischer to abandon the conglomeration]], the vault would have contained Bruce's dying parents, begging him to abandon his quest of justice. And of course, you'd think Batman's falling for it, until he disappears/grabs the dying pair and begins going full Batman on the pair [[spoiler: of shapeshifting imposters, with Strange playing his father]], because you think he's been falling for it, but he's realized this is a psychic attack for some part of the movie.

Simply killing Moll in limbo doesn't work. When his children are grown into independent adults, he will politely inform them that he's getting radical treatment to "be rid of" her, have her erased from his memory via Lacuna's treatment, and spend his old age becoming the best damned Extractor/Inceptor on the market, with nothing to stop him ever again!