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20th May '13 10:54:18 PM Nightgazer

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20th May '13 10:53:37 PM Nightgazer

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20th May '13 10:53:08 PM Nightgazer

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Two of the artworks there have had their faces scribbled out, three others are hidden in the darkness out of sight, and a few more are found in a sort of storage area filled with old boxes. As for the highly personal ones, the way to them is blocked by [[ManEatingPlant deadly plants that eat you if you get too close]]; once you get in there, one of them depicts a "tryst", and one of them is in pieces and once you've pieced it together, [[spoiler:you learn it is a painting of the man himself. Or at least his hands and shoulder.]]

[[WMG: Mary needs two people to escape]]
In the "Together Forever" ending, Mary's plan works perfectly and she escapes into the real world to live with Ib and her family, while in "Painting's Demise" it is made very clear that something's gone wrong. Both endings have Mary take the place of at least one person which is all that we're told is needed for Mary to get out. So what's the difference? 
Ib
Without Ib, there's nobody on the other side who even knows that Mary exists. Mary not only needs someone to take her place in the painting world, but also someone else to keep her attached and anchored to the world outside. So long as even one person in the real world knows and accepts her presence there, the rest of the world will follow suit. Without that anchor, she ends up being rejected by both worlds. It's likely that Mary herself doesn't know about that part of the process, which allows for the game's worst ending.

16th May '13 9:18:28 PM Luigifan

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The world itself is actually a manifestation of Mary's psyche. There are several references to this. Firstly, there are molestation references present. Hands reach out from the wall and grope at the player characters. There is one door that asks you to go into its mouth-another mouth on the wall wants to "eat your flower". In fact, the game's HP gauges are flowers-symbols typically associated with virginity, purity, and female coming of age. There are also signs that Mary has developed body image issues from the encounter with Gueterna, such as the deformed mannequins and doll heads which serve an antagonistic role in the game. The girls that crawl out of paintings could be seen as a literal cry for help-an echo of her ultimate goal of leaving Gueterna in the painting world. Not to mention the dolls everywhere. In fact, there are very few parts of the world that one would think were created by a grown man. The entirety of the alternate gallery looks almost completely like the work of a very disturbed young girl.

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The world itself is actually a manifestation of Mary's psyche. There are several references to this. Firstly, there are molestation references present. Hands reach out from the wall and grope at the player characters. There is one door that asks you to go into its mouth -- another mouth on the wall wants to "eat your flower". In fact, the game's HP gauges are flowers -- symbols typically associated with virginity, purity, and female coming of age. There are also signs that Mary has developed body image issues from the encounter with Gueterna, such as the deformed mannequins and doll heads which serve an antagonistic role in the game. The girls that crawl out of paintings could be seen as a literal cry for help-an echo of her ultimate goal of leaving Gueterna in the painting world. Not to mention the dolls everywhere. In fact, there are very few parts of the world that one would think were created by a grown man. The entirety of the alternate gallery looks almost completely like the work of a very disturbed young girl.

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This is an idea I've been nursing for a while, I even posted about it on tumblr a few times. Garry's bedraggled appearance is a big sign, also it always stuck out to me that Garry ate "a" macaroon and not "some". If you know what macaroons are, like little cookie things, then you'd know that one does not simply eat one macaroon. So I'm thinking someone gave him one? Where I live, free art galleries and the like are common places for the homeless to hang around in during the winter, since they can stand in the heat for a few hours that way.

* The main problems of this, is that Garry's clothing is how some people wear stuff like that (torn jeans and the like). It also seems that Garry uses his lighter a lot which could mean he's a smoker which isn't a cheap hobby (unless he uses it to lit fires in general). Finally, Garry seems educated and coherent (many hobos are mentally ill or how some form of disability). His feminine appearance makes him look well kept (or clean at least) and his hair seems to be dyed which is the kind of thing a hobo wouldn't bother or couldn't afford to pay for.

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This is an idea I've been nursing for a while, I even posted about it on tumblr a few times. Garry's bedraggled appearance is a big sign; also, it always stuck out to me that Garry ate "a" macaroon and not "some". If you know what macaroons are, like little cookie things, then you'd know that one does not simply eat one macaroon. So I'm thinking someone gave him one? Where I live, free art galleries and the like are common places for the homeless to hang around in during the winter, since they can stand in the heat for a few hours that way.

* The main problems of this, is that Garry's clothing is how some people wear stuff like that (torn jeans and the like). It also seems that Garry uses his lighter a lot, which could mean he's a smoker, which isn't a cheap hobby (unless he uses it to light fires in general). Finally, Garry seems educated and coherent (many hobos are mentally ill or have some form of disability). His feminine appearance makes him look well kept (or clean at least) and his hair seems to be dyed, which is the kind of thing a hobo wouldn't bother or couldn't afford to pay for.

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6th Apr '13 4:47:54 PM Thecommander236

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6th Apr '13 2:45:36 PM CoolKitten

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[[WMG: The BonusDungeon is where Guertena keeps artworks that he's either ashamed of or are incredibly personal.]]

Two of the artworks there have had their faces scribbled out, three others are hidden in the darkness out of sight, and a few more are found in a sort of storage area filled with old boxes.  As for the highly personal ones, the way to them is blocked by [[ManEatingPlant deadly plants that eat you if you get too close,]] once you get in there one of them depicts a "tryst", and one of them is in pieces and once you've pieced it together [[spoiler: you learn it is a painting of the man himself. Or at least his hands.]]

23rd Mar '13 11:26:46 AM Thecommander236

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The world itself is actually a manifestation of Mary's psyche. There are several references to this. Firstly, there are molestation references present. Hands reach out from the wall and grope at the player characters. There is one door that asks you to go into its mouth--another mouth on the wall wants to "eat your flower". In fact, the game's HP gauges are flowers--symbols typically associated with virginity, purity, and female coming of age. There are also signs that Mary has developed body image issues from the encounter with Gueterna, such as the deformed mannequins and doll heads which serve an antagonistic role in the game. The girls that crawl out of paintings could be seen as a literal cry for help--an echo of her ultimate goal of leaving Gueterna in the painting world. Not to mention the dolls everywhere. In fact, there are very few parts of the world that one would think were created by a grown man. The entirety of the alternate gallery looks almost completely like the work of a very disturbed young girl.

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22nd Mar '13 6:55:46 PM CoolKitten

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12th Mar '13 11:59:42 AM yamiaainferno

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