History WMG / HeyArnold

14th Aug '16 1:01:49 AM maxwellsilver
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[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-family-movies-tv-shows-that-were-almost-insanely-dark/ In the early run of the show, Lana Vail was supposed to be a pedophile with a crush on Arnold.]] [[FridgeHorror With her being an attorney, she might have sucessfully got off without criminal charges for years,]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale including the double standard of men always being perceived rapists and women always being perceived as victims.]]

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[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-family-movies-tv-shows-that-were-almost-insanely-dark/ In the early run of the show, Lana Vail was supposed to be a pedophile with a crush on Arnold.]] [[FridgeHorror With her being an attorney, she might have sucessfully got off without criminal charges for years,]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale years, including the double standard of men always being perceived rapists and women always being perceived as victims.]]
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** Both Helga's and Olga's personalities are reactions to their abusive father; Olga pretends to be the perfect girl to not be pestered by dad, while [[StepfordSmiler she does have to walk from problem to problem to keep the facade]]. The fact that she prefers to mantain distance might make this true. Helga's aggressive personality was the way she found of counter-attacking fire with fire, and even though she doesn't like Olga's way to withdraw from the conflict, she protects the big sister and mom at the same time. She loves Arnold for being the exact opposite of her father, but at the same time, can't keep liking him not only by her fear of bullying, but the fear of what her father would be capable to do to the poor boy if Bob discovers. Her mother's reactions to Arnold memorabilia (throwing it away, burning it in the fire), although mostly because Helga told her to do so, might be for the boy's protection as well. That might be the reason that we never hear Olga talking about boyfriends at all, she might fear for the guys' lives (or maybe she's a lesbian and doesn't even mention girlfriends because Bob is probably homophobic as well). You know what an abusive and jealous guy with an unlimited supply of highly flammable and heavy beepers might do with anybody that makes the family's "harmony" go awry (not to mention he probably has a shotgun somewhere, but Helga might manage to hide the bullets to not see any tragedies).

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** Both Helga's and Olga's personalities are reactions to their abusive father; Olga pretends to be the perfect girl to not be pestered by dad, while [[StepfordSmiler she does have to walk from problem to problem to keep the facade]]. facade. The fact that she prefers to mantain maintain distance might make this true. Helga's aggressive personality was the way she found of counter-attacking fire with fire, and even though she doesn't like Olga's way to withdraw from the conflict, she protects the big sister and mom at the same time. She loves Arnold for being the exact opposite of her father, but at the same time, can't keep liking him not only by her fear of bullying, but the fear of what her father would be capable to do to the poor boy if Bob discovers. Her mother's reactions to Arnold memorabilia (throwing it away, burning it in the fire), although mostly because Helga told her to do so, might be for the boy's protection as well. That might be the reason that we never hear Olga talking about boyfriends at all, she might fear for the guys' lives (or maybe she's a lesbian and doesn't even mention girlfriends because Bob is probably homophobic as well). You know what an abusive and jealous guy with an unlimited supply of highly flammable and heavy beepers might do with anybody that makes the family's "harmony" go awry (not to mention he probably has a shotgun somewhere, but Helga might manage to hide the bullets to not see any tragedies).
14th Aug '16 1:00:10 AM maxwellsilver
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* He just told Gerald that he was inept at fighting and got assigned to clerical duties to hammer the point home that serving your country wasn't just about grabbing a gun and going gung-ho action hero on FacelessMooks since he knew that Gerald, being a young boy, would've [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missed the point]] and focused on all the action if he just told him about all the fights he'd ended up in. That, and recalling combat can be pretty hard on soldiers who found the whole thing terrible. He only offhandedly mentioned that he managed to save a soldier from bleeding to death without really going into details so as not to appear to be singing his own praises. Further, the reason he looked so disheartened when he overheard Gerald complaining about how he seemingly hadn't been in combat thanks to earlier his story was because, despite his efforts, his son still missed the point he'd been trying to impart.
** Another possibility is that he was part of SOG and did top secret missions that he was not allowed to tell anyone about, so his office job was most likely a cover story.

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* He just told Gerald that he was inept at fighting and got assigned to clerical duties to hammer the point home that serving your country wasn't just about grabbing a gun and going gung-ho action hero on FacelessMooks since he knew that Gerald, being a young boy, would've [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely missed the point]] point and focused on all the action if he just told him about all the fights he'd ended up in. That, and recalling combat can be pretty hard on soldiers who found the whole thing terrible. He only offhandedly mentioned that he managed to save a soldier from bleeding to death without really going into details so as not to appear to be singing his own praises. Further, the reason he looked so disheartened when he overheard Gerald complaining about how he seemingly hadn't been in combat thanks to earlier his story was because, despite his efforts, his son still missed the point he'd been trying to impart.
** Another possibility is that he was part of SOG MACV-SOG and did top secret missions that he was not allowed to tell anyone about, so his office job was most likely a cover story.



This is pretty sad... but also is a big possibility. Arnold parents go missing after going to San Lorenzo to cure another strange illness. Maybe this time they contracted the dissease, get sick and die. Or maybe they get sick at fall into a Coma. This is why they never return with Arnold.

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This is pretty sad... but also is a big possibility. Arnold parents go missing after going to San Lorenzo to cure another strange illness. Maybe this time they contracted the dissease, disease, get sick and die. Or maybe they get sick at fall into a Coma. This is why they never return with Arnold.



At the end of the episode, The Pigeon Man. His mistrust of people, caused by the kids wrecking his place sent him over the edge. The ending we saw was Arnold's way of coping with what happened. He jumped into the air and Arnold thought hew flew away with pigeons holding him. That...doesn't make much sense. Plus because of the sunset he never really clearly saw what was happening. If he pieced it together it would be too much to cope with for a kid.

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At the end of the episode, The Pigeon Man. His mistrust of people, caused by the kids wrecking his place sent him over the edge. The ending we saw was Arnold's way of coping with what happened. He jumped into the air and Arnold thought hew he flew away with pigeons holding him. That...doesn't make much sense. Plus because of the sunset he never really clearly saw what was happening. If he pieced it together it would be too much to cope with for a kid.
* Jossed. Craig Bartlett has repeatedly stated Pigeon Man does fly away and settles in Paris. He was also confirmed to reappear in ''The Jungle Movie''.



* Torvald's father is never mentioned in the story, and not having a father around is likely to have made him delinquent, or the fact that he know that his father will never claim him in general, let alone publicly. He is dealing with a frustrating truth that patty was saved from by her adoption (or was she?). Looking at Torvald's "house", his mother may have received financial support for her "services" (with out being totally dependent on him) up until the birth (young childhood?) of, or pregnancy with, Torvald.

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* Torvald's father is never mentioned in the story, and not having a father around is likely to have made him delinquent, or the fact that he know that his father will never claim him in general, let alone publicly. He is dealing with a frustrating truth that patty was saved from by her adoption (or was she?). Looking at Torvald's "house", his mother may have received financial support for her "services" (with out (without being totally dependent on him) up until the birth (young childhood?) of, or pregnancy with, Torvald.
13th Jul '16 5:31:03 PM EnglishGuruLady
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If Arnold doesn't forgive you at all, You've messed up big time!

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If Arnold doesn't forgive you at all, You've messed up big time!time!

[[WMG: Mr. Simmons is related to Doug Funnie.]]

Their appearances and clothing are quite similar, except of course for the fact that Simmons is older and taller. They also seem to have similar introverted, "beta male" type personalities, although Doug may or may not be AmbiguouslyGay. They could be uncle and nephew or distant cousins.
2nd Jul '16 10:03:20 PM HolisticGrouse
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If Jungle Movie gets made, there will be a joke implying his birth was especially painful due to the shape of his head.

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If Jungle Movie gets made, there will be a joke implying his birth was especially painful due to the shape of his head.head.

[[WMG: Til this day, Arnold still hasn't forgiven Iggy]]
If Arnold doesn't forgive you at all, You've messed up big time!
8th May '16 1:48:44 PM nombretomado
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* Oh my God, I LOVE this theory! Remember also that adults from Charlie Brown specials have voices that sound like garbled static--and all the adults from ''HeyArnold'' are incomprehensible in one way or another: Grandma because of her status as a CloudCuckoolander, Phil because of his tendency to embellish, Mr. Hyunh's accent, Mr. Simmons' repeated use of the word "special"...

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* Oh my God, I LOVE this theory! Remember also that adults from Charlie Brown specials have voices that sound like garbled static--and all the adults from ''HeyArnold'' ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' are incomprehensible in one way or another: Grandma because of her status as a CloudCuckoolander, Phil because of his tendency to embellish, Mr. Hyunh's accent, Mr. Simmons' repeated use of the word "special"...
23rd Apr '16 8:19:45 AM WarriorSparrow
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** Confirmed, and it will be a two-hour two-parter!
17th Mar '16 10:09:25 AM smalltime
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Yes it is possible. According to the episodes, "Harold's Bar Mitzvah" and "Hey Harold!" Harold is 13 years old and was held back a few times which is why he's still in fourth grade. Yet in "Helga on the Couch" Harold is shown to have attended preschool with the same children he's in fourth grade with. So in an attempt to fix the ContinuitySnarl, my WMG is that Harold failed preschool a couple of times, and the year that he finally passed is the year that he was with Arnold, Helga, etc.

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Yes it is possible. According to the episodes, "Harold's Bar Mitzvah" and "Hey Harold!" Harold is 13 years old and was held back a few times which is why he's still in fourth grade. Yet in "Helga on the Couch" Harold is shown to have attended preschool with the same children he's in fourth grade with. So in an attempt to fix the ContinuitySnarl, my WMG is that Harold failed preschool a couple of times, and the year that he finally passed is the year that he was with Arnold, Helga, etc.etc.

[[WMG: Joke about Arnold's birth]]
If Jungle Movie gets made, there will be a joke implying his birth was especially painful due to the shape of his head.
25th Jan '16 2:16:19 AM thecarolinabull01
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** I thought this was a given.



Aside from the weird yellow skin color the character designs are kinda similar, and both series live on the premise of having their characters go through real-life struggles in one episode but then wacky adventures on the other. Gerald looks like the lovechild of Marge and Carl, and there's the fact that Craig Bartlett married Matt Groening's sister...

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Aside from the weird yellow skin color the character designs are kinda similar, and both series live on the premise of having their characters go through real-life struggles in one episode but then wacky adventures on the other. Gerald looks like the lovechild of Marge and Carl, and there's the fact that Craig Bartlett married Matt Groening's sister...sister...

[[WMG: Harold failed preschool]]
Yes it is possible. According to the episodes, "Harold's Bar Mitzvah" and "Hey Harold!" Harold is 13 years old and was held back a few times which is why he's still in fourth grade. Yet in "Helga on the Couch" Harold is shown to have attended preschool with the same children he's in fourth grade with. So in an attempt to fix the ContinuitySnarl, my WMG is that Harold failed preschool a couple of times, and the year that he finally passed is the year that he was with Arnold, Helga, etc.
14th Jan '16 8:17:59 AM Redmane
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* It actually makes sense now that I think about it, especially since it was hinted that Lila is a BitchInSheepsClothing.

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* It actually makes sense now that I think about it, especially since it was hinted that Lila is a BitchInSheepsClothing.BitchInSheepsClothing.

[[WMG: Hey Arnold takes place in the same universe as WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons]]

Aside from the weird yellow skin color the character designs are kinda similar, and both series live on the premise of having their characters go through real-life struggles in one episode but then wacky adventures on the other. Gerald looks like the lovechild of Marge and Carl, and there's the fact that Craig Bartlett married Matt Groening's sister...
28th Nov '15 11:18:26 AM thecarolinabull01
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* Possibly confirmed. Craig Bartlett confirmed the possibility of a reboot or continuation of the series, one of those plans was a TV movie. Maybe "The Jungle Movie" will be that TV movie?



Lila never forgave Helga for humiliating her at school or Arnold for initially rejecting her. Once she found out about Helga’s affections during the school play, she continuously lead Arnold on so both of them would be lonely and miserable. She was also just pretending to like Arnie and Olga because she knew it would upset them.

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Lila never forgave Helga for humiliating her at school or Arnold for initially rejecting her. Once she found out about Helga’s affections during the school play, she continuously lead Arnold on so both of them would be lonely and miserable. She was also just pretending to like Arnie and Olga because she knew it would upset them.them.
* It actually makes sense now that I think about it, especially since it was hinted that Lila is a BitchInSheepsClothing.
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