History WMG / Haven

20th Feb '16 12:52:36 PM nombretomado
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The town was built on some kind of [[Series/{{Warehouse 13}} Artifact]] (or it ''is'' an Artifact) that continues to give people abilities and make them Troubled. Some of the Troubled left Haven, had kids and passed shades of their abilities onto their children. Over the course of generations, superpowers became a large enough part of the gene pool that people noticed, and those people are Series/{{Alphas}}. Naturally, this is all moving towards an [[Film/TheAvengers Avengers-esque]] team-up.

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The town was built on some kind of [[Series/{{Warehouse 13}} Artifact]] (or it ''is'' an Artifact) that continues to give people abilities and make them Troubled. Some of the Troubled left Haven, had kids and passed shades of their abilities onto their children. Over the course of generations, superpowers became a large enough part of the gene pool that people noticed, and those people are Series/{{Alphas}}. Naturally, this is all moving towards an [[Film/TheAvengers [[Film/TheAvengers2012 Avengers-esque]] team-up.
21st Oct '15 1:18:22 PM Anarquistador
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* Duke absorbed Kyle Hopkins' Trouble. He buried Wade and said he was going to bury Jennifer.

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* Duke absorbed Kyle Hopkins' Trouble. He buried Wade and said he was going to bury Jennifer.Jennifer.

[[WMG: Dwight will be the final season's BigBad]]
* He's already become the military dictator of the the new Haven. It's not a short road from there to finally wondering why he should be taking orders from Nathan and Audrey and all these other people. A [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jump Off the Slippery Slope]] is in the making.
16th Dec '14 12:54:28 AM Firestorm17
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* The thumbtack incident described in the first season episode "Resurfacing" also happened in 1983. The Crocker Trouble puts a whole new angle on Duke slapping Nathan on the back where Nathan is later found to be dripping with blood.
19th Sep '14 11:56:18 AM ultimomant
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Howard mentions that Audrey isn't being punished with the barn. However Mara created the troubles, so it seems like it should be a punishment. But if Mara wasn't her original personality, it would explain. The barn gives Audrey a new personality each time. A door was opened to the other world, and only Audrey's original personality could hold it at bay. After releasing all of her love to hold the other world at bay -- she becomes the personality of Mara. Mara doesn't have an Agent Howard to guide her into the new world, and she eventually meets William, and the two create the troubles together. All of Audrey's previous personalities are only suppressed inside of her -- any of them COULD come out. But Mara's is the most powerful and capable.

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Howard mentions that Audrey isn't being punished with the barn. However Mara created the troubles, so it seems like it should be a punishment. But if Mara wasn't her original personality, it would explain. The barn gives Audrey a new personality each time. A door was opened to the other world, and only Audrey's original personality could hold it at bay. After releasing all of her love to hold the other world at bay -- she becomes the personality of Mara. Mara doesn't have an Agent Howard to guide her into the new world, and she eventually meets William, and the two create the troubles together. All of Audrey's previous personalities are only suppressed inside of her -- any of them COULD come out. But Mara's is the most powerful and capable.capable.

[[WMG: Wade and Jennifer are going to come back as ghosts]]
* Duke absorbed Kyle Hopkins' Trouble. He buried Wade and said he was going to bury Jennifer.
16th Aug '14 6:57:27 PM Sylar
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* This could also add another layer to the way he's drawn to Nathan, if he subconsciously associates him with his first experience of the high that comes from his Trouble.

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* This could also add another layer to the way he's drawn to Nathan, if he subconsciously associates him with his first experience of the high that comes from his Trouble.Trouble.

[[WMG: Mara isn't the original personality]]
Howard mentions that Audrey isn't being punished with the barn. However Mara created the troubles, so it seems like it should be a punishment. But if Mara wasn't her original personality, it would explain. The barn gives Audrey a new personality each time. A door was opened to the other world, and only Audrey's original personality could hold it at bay. After releasing all of her love to hold the other world at bay -- she becomes the personality of Mara. Mara doesn't have an Agent Howard to guide her into the new world, and she eventually meets William, and the two create the troubles together. All of Audrey's previous personalities are only suppressed inside of her -- any of them COULD come out. But Mara's is the most powerful and capable.
4th May '14 7:37:59 PM ultimomant
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Refugees from another level of the Dark Tower came through the door under the lighthouse into our world (through what is essentially Todash Space). Said refugees found they had supernatural abilities in our world, and centuries of interbreeding between these refugees and humans native to this reality resulted in a hybrid population with a disproportionate number of strange powers. After trying and failing to fit in with mundane human society (points if references to Salem are made), they fled back to the portal from which they came. Under the leadership of Reverend Flagg (aka Byron Howard) and built the village of Haven on top of it, to protect it from outsiders, and made a rule that they would never interfere with the affairs of the outside world again. Maura and William broke that rule out of sheer boredom, messing with ordinary people, giving them random and uncontrollable powers (aka Troubles). Howard couldn't undo what they did, so he did the only thing he could with Maura and the Barn, both punishing them and applying at least a temporary resolution to the Troubles.

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Refugees from another level of the Dark Tower came through the door under the lighthouse into our world (through what is essentially Todash Space). Said refugees found they had supernatural abilities in our world, and centuries of interbreeding between these refugees and humans native to this reality resulted in a hybrid population with a disproportionate number of strange powers. After trying and failing to fit in with mundane human society (points if references to Salem are made), they fled back to the portal from which they came. Under the leadership of Reverend Flagg (aka Byron Howard) and built the village of Haven on top of it, to protect it from outsiders, and made a rule that they would never interfere with the affairs of the outside world again. Maura Mara and William broke that rule out of sheer boredom, messing with ordinary people, giving them random and uncontrollable powers (aka Troubles). Howard couldn't undo what they did, so he did the only thing he could with Maura Mara and the Barn, both punishing them and applying at least a temporary resolution to the Troubles.



She'll basically have a Gollum/Sméagol style meltdown as [[spoiler: Audrey and Maura (and who knows how many other past lives) jockey for control of her body.]]

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She'll basically have a Gollum/Sméagol style meltdown as [[spoiler: Audrey and Maura Mara (and who knows how many other past lives) jockey for control of her body.]]



It's been discovered that, to end the Troubles for good, Audrey must sacrifice what she loves most of all, and everyone's been assuming that means she must kill Nathan. But that's not quite right. Lucy tried that with James one cycle before, and it didn't work. It's not Audrey that must sacrifice. It's not any of her past personas that must sacrifice. [[spoiler: It's ''Maura'' who has to. She must kill ''William.'' Nobody's figured this out yet because up until recently nobody even knew William existed.]]

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It's been discovered that, to end the Troubles for good, Audrey must sacrifice what she loves most of all, and everyone's been assuming that means she must kill Nathan. But that's not quite right. Lucy tried that with James one cycle before, and it didn't work. It's not Audrey that must sacrifice. It's not any of her past personas that must sacrifice. [[spoiler: It's ''Maura'' ''Mara'' who has to. She must kill ''William.'' Nobody's figured this out yet because up until recently nobody even knew William existed.]]
13th Apr '14 12:21:50 AM ultimomant
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The town was built on some kind of [[{{Warehouse 13}} Artifact]] (or it ''is'' an Artifact) that continues to give people abilities and make them Troubled. Some of the Troubled left Haven, had kids and passed shades of their abilities onto their children. Over the course of generations, superpowers became a large enough part of the gene pool that people noticed, and those people are Series/{{Alphas}}. Naturally, this is all moving towards an [[Film/TheAvengers Avengers-esque]] team-up.

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The town was built on some kind of [[{{Warehouse [[Series/{{Warehouse 13}} Artifact]] (or it ''is'' an Artifact) that continues to give people abilities and make them Troubled. Some of the Troubled left Haven, had kids and passed shades of their abilities onto their children. Over the course of generations, superpowers became a large enough part of the gene pool that people noticed, and those people are Series/{{Alphas}}. Naturally, this is all moving towards an [[Film/TheAvengers Avengers-esque]] team-up.




[[WMG: The {{Uncharted}} series is Will Brady's lucid dream after willingly going back into a coma.]]

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\n* Jossed.

[[WMG: The {{Uncharted}} VideoGame/{{Uncharted}} series is Will Brady's lucid dream after willingly going back into a coma.]]
29th Mar '14 7:20:25 PM Tabby
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* Confirmed-ish; the creators have said that the puzzle pieces Vince and Dave were sending "somewhere safe" were destined for Warehouse 13, but they couldn't get permission to say so explicitly.




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* Implied to be true by the DVD commentary in which the writers say it was intended to be obvious in hindsight that the tattoo artist had lied to them.



It's been discovered that, to end the Troubles for good, Audrey must sacrifice what she loves most of all, and everyone's been assuming that means she must kill Nathan. But that's not quite right. Lucy tried that with James one cycle before, and it didn't work. It's not Audrey that must sacrifice. It's not any of her past personas that must sacrifice. [[spoiler: It's ''Maura'' who has to. She must kill ''William.'' Nobody's figured this out yet because up until recently nobody even knew William existed.]]

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It's been discovered that, to end the Troubles for good, Audrey must sacrifice what she loves most of all, and everyone's been assuming that means she must kill Nathan. But that's not quite right. Lucy tried that with James one cycle before, and it didn't work. It's not Audrey that must sacrifice. It's not any of her past personas that must sacrifice. [[spoiler: It's ''Maura'' who has to. She must kill ''William.'' Nobody's figured this out yet because up until recently nobody even knew William existed.]]]]

[[WMG: Simon never told Duke about the family Trouble because he was still trying to choose which child of his to pass the responsibility on to when he died.]]
Wade complains that Simon was always pitting him and Duke against each other when they were kids. It's possible that he was testing them (and perhaps the other illegitimate brothers Duke is aware of) to see which one he considered most worthy of taking up the family legacy, or even physically and mentally stressing them out in order to force one of them to activate.

[[WMG: Duke's Trouble was active in 1983]]
He carried Nathan to the hospital after the sledding accident. Not completely impossible for a seven-year-old, but it would certainly be a lot easier for a seven-year-old with temporary super strength.
* His Trouble is so situation-dependent that it could easily be something that never came up again during that round of the Troubles, and adults would have no problem attributing a one-time physical feat to adrenaline.
* This could also add another layer to the way he's drawn to Nathan, if he subconsciously associates him with his first experience of the high that comes from his Trouble.
31st Dec '13 7:30:07 AM Anarquistador
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She'll basically have a Gollum/Sméagol style meltdown as [[spoiler: Audrey and Maura (and who knows how many other past lives) jockey for control of her body.]]

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She'll basically have a Gollum/Sméagol style meltdown as [[spoiler: Audrey and Maura (and who knows how many other past lives) jockey for control of her body.]]

[[WMG: There's a mistake in the research.]]
It's been discovered that, to end the Troubles for good, Audrey must sacrifice what she loves most of all, and everyone's been assuming that means she must kill Nathan. But that's not quite right. Lucy tried that with James one cycle before, and it didn't work. It's not Audrey that must sacrifice. It's not any of her past personas that must sacrifice. [[spoiler: It's ''Maura'' who has to. She must kill ''William.'' Nobody's figured this out yet because up until recently nobody even knew William existed.
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16th Dec '13 8:09:03 AM Anarquistador
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Refugees from another level of the Dark Tower came through the door under the lighthouse into our world (through what is essentially Todash Space). Said refugees found they had supernatural abilities in our world, and centuries of interbreeding between these refugees and humans native to this reality resulted in a hybrid population with a disproportionate number of strange powers. After trying and failing to fit in with mundane human society (points if references to Salem are made), they fled back to the portal from which they came. Under the leadership of Reverend Flagg (aka Byron Howard) and built the village of Haven on top of it, to protect it from outsiders, and made a rule that they would never interfere with the affairs of the outside world again. Maura and William broke that rule out of sheer boredom, messing with ordinary people, giving them random and uncontrollable powers (aka Troubles). Howard couldn't undo what they did, so he did the only thing he could with Maura and the Barn, both punishing them and applying at least a temporary resolution to the Troubles.

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Refugees from another level of the Dark Tower came through the door under the lighthouse into our world (through what is essentially Todash Space). Said refugees found they had supernatural abilities in our world, and centuries of interbreeding between these refugees and humans native to this reality resulted in a hybrid population with a disproportionate number of strange powers. After trying and failing to fit in with mundane human society (points if references to Salem are made), they fled back to the portal from which they came. Under the leadership of Reverend Flagg (aka Byron Howard) and built the village of Haven on top of it, to protect it from outsiders, and made a rule that they would never interfere with the affairs of the outside world again. Maura and William broke that rule out of sheer boredom, messing with ordinary people, giving them random and uncontrollable powers (aka Troubles). Howard couldn't undo what they did, so he did the only thing he could with Maura and the Barn, both punishing them and applying at least a temporary resolution to the Troubles.Troubles.

[[WMG: Emily Rose is going to get a [[TheCastShowoff Cast Showoff]] episode in Season 5]]
She'll basically have a Gollum/Sméagol style meltdown as [[spoiler: Audrey and Maura (and who knows how many other past lives) jockey for control of her body.]]
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