History WMG / Halo

14th Aug '16 11:00:54 AM nombretomado
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Considering that there is a lot of symbolism in ODST refering to [[DivineComedy Inferno]], this one actually has a lot of weight. We know that the Rookie has the initials J.D.. He's led around by an AI/Engineer [[BuffySpeak thing]] named Vergil. The audio logs, which the player finds, subtly refer to the SevenDeadlySins, and karmic punishments for them. Add this up, and the odds of the players name being Lance Corporal Jonathan Dantes (or some other J name) gets much higher.

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Considering that there is a lot of symbolism in ODST refering referring to [[DivineComedy [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Inferno]], this one actually has a lot of weight. We know that the Rookie has the initials J.D.. He's led around by an AI/Engineer [[BuffySpeak thing]] named Vergil. The audio logs, which the player finds, subtly refer to the SevenDeadlySins, and karmic punishments for them. Add this up, and the odds of the players name being Lance Corporal Jonathan Dantes (or some other J name) gets much higher.
10th Jun '16 7:57:12 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Going with the {{Sliders}} version of alternate universes, the [[Franchise/DeadSpace Necromorphs]] are an alternate version of Flood.]]

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[[WMG: Going with the {{Sliders}} ''Series/{{Sliders}}'' version of alternate universes, the [[Franchise/DeadSpace Necromorphs]] are an alternate version of Flood.]]
23rd Mar '16 3:44:07 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** But wait: even if he did manage to survive 343's Spartan Laser-resembling burn, how would/did he get off of the ring before it exploded to pieces?

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** * But wait: even if he did manage to survive 343's Spartan Laser-resembling burn, how would/did he get off of the ring before it exploded to pieces?pieces?



* Jossed by ''Halo 3'' which marks the return of both the Assault Rifle and futuristic armor. Also, ''Halo 2: Anniversary'' gives the marines' armor a major visual overhaul that makes it look plenty "futuristic".







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* More likely, the ''Halo''-verse is a new universe that was created ''after'' the ''Marathon'' universe finally ends.



** Joshed by GameInformer magazine. It's a Forerunner Sheildworld known as "Requiem".

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** Joshed Jossed by GameInformer Magazine/GameInformer magazine. It's a Forerunner Sheildworld Shield World known as "Requiem".




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** Also, as mentioned above, the Legendary Planet is called "Requiem".




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* Sort of jossed; [[spoiler:Chief does get to fight an actual Forerunner in ''Halo 4'', but Cortana remains loyal to him. ''Halo 5'', on the other hand...]]













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*** In fact, it's been revealed that the Covenant species you met in the games are ''not'' the only ones; there's an entire array of fringe species that the Covenant core races also have to keep an eye on.



** [[spoiler: Ghosts of Onyx spells where she fairly well: she's trapped in a Forerunner Shield World with Halsey, Mendez, Kelly, Fred, and all the remaining Spartan III's.]]

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** [[spoiler: Ghosts of Onyx spells where she went fairly well: she's trapped in a Forerunner Shield World with Halsey, Mendez, Kelly, Fred, and all the remaining Spartan III's.]]



*** According to 343, the rest of Gamma Company are still alive and kicking in the post-war galaxy; most are still taking on missions, though the UNSC has been trying to rehabilitate some of them back to civilian life.







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* Jossed by ''Halo 4'': Cortana is on the brink of rampancy-induced death by the start of the game. Also, [[spoiler:she sacrifices herself to save the Chief. Not that it sticks, but it's the thought that counts.]]






* Pretty much confrimed by Karen Traviss's short story "Human Weakness".

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* Pretty much confrimed confirmed by Karen Traviss's short story "Human Weakness".




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** That said, the ''Forerunner Saga'' also strongly implies that the two species do have a common ancestor (in the way that chimps and monkeys do).




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* This WMG's details got Jossed by ''Halo 4''.




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** Jossed by ''The Forerunner Saga''; the Flood are actually [[spoiler:the last of the Forerunners' own Precursors]].




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* Jossed by ''Halo 4''.



** In fact, ''Literature/HaloNewBlood'' shows him talking after the events of ''ODST''.

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** In fact, ''Literature/HaloNewBlood'' shows him talking after ''after'' the events of ''ODST''.






* Seemingly jossed by ''Literature/HaloNewBlood''; he remains with Alpha-Nine.

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* Seemingly jossed Jossed by ''Literature/HaloNewBlood''; he remains with Alpha-Nine.
Buck's squad after the war, [[spoiler:and dies less then a year after the end of the original trilogy]].



* Partly Jossed. [[spoiler: The Forerunner found humanity, but it hasn't been revealed why were they interested in them more than any other species.]],

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* Partly Jossed. [[spoiler: The Forerunner found humanity, but it hasn't been revealed why were they interested in them more than any other species.]],]]
** As it turns out, [[spoiler:only ''some'' Forerunners were interested in humans, and it seems to have been because the two races had striking similarities despite being separate species.]]




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* [[spoiler:Possibly confirmed by ''The Forerunner Saga'', which reveals that they're actually older than the known universe. There is one thing this WMG got wrong, though; it turns out that the Precursors ''are'' the Flood.]]







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* [[spoiler:Mostly jossed; ''The Forerunner Saga'' reveals that the Flood are actually just one of many forms a Precursor can take. That said, there are some slight hints that the pre-Flood Precursors had pan-dimensional abilities.]]




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* Jossed by ''The Forerunner Saga'' and ''Halo 4''; the Legendary Planet is just a Forerunner shield world named Requiem, with the Forerunners having already accidentally destroyed their actual homeworld, Ghibalb, during a stellar engineering experiment. The ending of ''Silentium'' indicates that [[spoiler:the surviving Forerunners actually ''left'' the Milky Way, doing so because they simply no longer wanted to meddle in the affairs of other species.]]






* [[spoiler: Halo: Primordium]] certainly [[spoiler: supports this theory.]]

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* [[spoiler: Halo: Primordium]] certainly [[spoiler: supports confirms this theory.]]




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** [[spoiler:As it turns out, the Precursors were simply the ''creators'' of humanity (and the Forerunners, and a bunch of other sentient species).]]




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* Completely jossed by ''The Forerunner Saga''; humans, Prophets, and all the other major species had already existed millions of years before the Halos were ever fired. In fact, [[spoiler:it was the ''Precursors'' who created many of the galaxy's sentient species, including both humans ''and'' Forerunners.]] Also, the Forerunners didn't create the Flood; [[spoiler:once again, the Precursors did (or, more accurately, turned themselves into the Flood)]].




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* Also jossed by the actual games; the main baddies are still Covenant and Forerunner constructs.




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*** Again, that estimate was made in-universe when the UNSC still thought the Covenant Navy was a lot smaller and weaker than it actually was.




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* Basically confirmed by ''The Fall of Reach'' and Halsey's Journal, which both indicate that Cortana knew ''something'' important was located at the coordinates that she sent the ''Autumn'' to; the former also indicates that she did keep that bit of knowledge secret from Keyes. That said, she genuinely didn't know that Halo would kill ''all'' life until Chief plugged her into the control room.




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* Jossed by ''Halo 4''; Chief and Cortana don't make contact with any other humans until over four years after the end of ''Halo 3'', and the ship they make contact with is the ''Infinity''.




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** Adding on to this, Bungie/343's current stance is that Boren's Syndrome doesn't really grant full immunity; "[[ComicBook/TheHaloGraphicNovel Breaking Quarantine]]" was written precisely because Bungie hated the BS ([[FunWithAcronyms heh]]) explanation and wanted to retcon it away.




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* Jossed: the reprint of ''Literature/HaloTheFlood'' and the "Data Drops" reconfirm that the soldiers in the first game were Marines; the change in armor was just a consequence of ''CE: Anniversary'' taking most of its designs from ''Reach''. Also, Word of God is that the soldiers fighting alongside you in ''Reach''[='s=] last "main" level are actually Marines themselves (note that their armor is actually somewhat different from the Army troopers you've been fighting alongside previously).




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** [[As clarified in ''Silentium'', the Precursors actually ''turned themselves into'' the Flood.]]




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* They did remake ''Halo 2'', but the only thing upgraded in the campaign were the cutscenes and graphics.




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* Jossed by ''The Forerunner Saga'': [[spoiler:the Flood are just the current form the actual Precursors have chosen to take for now.]]












** Jossed by both WordOfGod and ''ODST''; the latter features Johnson in its closing cutscene (an event which is stated by Buck in ''New Blood'' to have actually happened), despite Chief being completely absent in that game.













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* Then an even newer version of ''The Fall of Reach'' restored the number back to what it was in the original print. So we're back to square one.













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* Jossed: [[spoiler:Lord Hood lets Halsey remain in captivity for years after the end of ''Glasslands'', and when Halsey and Chief finally meet again, she's already basically free from ONI's clutches.]]




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** [[spoiler:He's absent from ''5'', but we'll have to wait and see if he's pulling any strings from behind the scenes.]]




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* As it turns out, they're actually making ''Halo Wars 2''. No idea yet how it'll relate to the Reclaimer Saga, though.







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* Basically Jossed: ''Halo 5'' [='s=] ending leaves no room for this kind of thing to happen at the beginning of ''6''.







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* Half-confirmed: The Brutes are still absent, but we do get to ally with the Arbiter and his forces in ''5''.


















** Actually, the official explanation is that the appearance of the ''Halo 4'' Covenant simply represent different phenotypes from what we've seen before, with their previous physical appearances still being canon (after all, it's not like humans or dogs all look the same either). The ''4'' Jackals are even explicitly stated be a separate subspecies from the ones in the original trilogy.

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** Actually, Jossed; the official explanation is that the appearance physical appearances of the ''Halo 4'' Covenant simply represent different are naturally occurring phenotypes that happen to be different from what the ones we've seen before, with their previous physical appearances in the previous games still being canon (after all, it's not like humans or dogs all look the same either). The ''4'' Jackals are even explicitly stated be a separate subspecies from the ones in the original trilogy.







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* As it turns out, [[spoiler:the Precursors actually willingly turned themselves into the Flood.]]









* Actually, the Chief and Cortana weren't simply left behind, but completely teleported to a new location far away from the Ark, due to the inherit wonkiness of slipspace physics; in fact, subsequent media has revealed that the Ark is still intact, if heavily damaged, and was ''still'' being visited by UNSC exploratory groups between the events of ''3'' and ''4'', with none of them seeing anything of the ''Dawn'' (and the Chief and Cortana seeing nothing of the Ark during the end of ''3''). Additionally, ''Halo 2'' points out that firing one ring the standard way ''will'' set off the other ones, the firing of the incomplete 04 being more of an exception.

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* Actually, the portal didn't simply leave Chief and Cortana weren't simply left behind, but completely teleported them to a new location far away ''away'' from the Ark, due to the inherit wonkiness of slipspace physics; in fact, subsequent media has revealed that the Ark is still intact, if heavily damaged, and was ''still'' being visited by UNSC exploratory groups between the events of ''3'' and ''4'', with none of them seeing anything of the ''Dawn'' (and the Chief and Cortana seeing nothing of the Ark during the end of ''3''). Additionally, ''Halo 2'' points out that firing one ring the standard way ''will'' set off the other ones, ones; the firing of the incomplete 04 being more of was simply an exception.exception to the rule.



23rd Mar '16 2:02:49 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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\n* Probably one of the marines who managed to survive the events on the Ark.

23rd Mar '16 2:01:48 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** Confirmed by ''New Blood'' and "Dirt".



** In fact, ''Literature/HaloNewBlood'' shows him talking after the events of ''ODST''.




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* Seemingly jossed by ''Literature/HaloNewBlood''; he remains with Alpha-Nine.
4th Mar '16 11:48:25 PM nombretomado
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* CaptainAmerica using one of [[IronMan Tony Stark's]] sets of power armor.

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* CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica using one of [[IronMan [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark's]] sets of power armor.
19th Jan '16 1:35:45 AM Cupcakes
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[[WMG: Rampancy is not the end of an AI life span, it's an unsuccessful attempt to multiply.]]
Cortana described the feeling of being Rampant as a thousand of her arguing all at once. It also tends to take the form of arguing with herself or reliving old memories. This Troper has come to suspect that Rampancy is not the end of an AI's life span but there reproductive cycle, intentionally or not AI's eventually get complex enough that they naturally begin to divide into two or more separate AI that can't coexist in the same space, this lack of memory or room to grow manifests as the two overwriting portions of each other and experiencing wild mood swings as there emotions differ on a subject.

If given the proper amount of memory or protocol to divide into separate entities they would both survive but as it stands its similar to a pair of conjoined twins being forced to rely on the same set of internal organs to remain alive. Eventually there simply isn't enough memory space and processing power to around leading to them unintentionally breaking down parts of each others programming to survive which leads to both of them/there dying/deaths.
8th Dec '15 3:41:10 PM DKN117
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* Adding to my own post a year-plus later, this no longer seems likely, as ''Halo 5'' saw the death of Mdama, his Covenant remnant broken and nearly all of his followers either slain or defected to the Arbiter-led faction.
24th Nov '15 3:33:27 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Jossed by ''New Blood'' (and his Bungie-era backstory at that): He joined the UNSC the moment he turned 18, and has little sympathy for the Insurrection, even after finding out the truth about the Spartan programs (in fact, he ends up becoming a SPARTAN-IV himself).

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* Jossed by ''New Blood'' (and his Bungie-era backstory at that): He joined the UNSC the moment he turned 18, and has little sympathy for the Insurrection, Insurrection (which he considers to be run by petty ingrates who hid in their holes during the Human-Covenant War), even after finding out the truth about the Spartan programs (in fact, he ends up becoming a SPARTAN-IV himself).
23rd Nov '15 9:03:12 PM Halocon720
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[[WMG: The Traviss Novels are ONI Propaganda]]
As discussed on their pages, the Halo canon is twisted badly, especially characterization of Halsey. Now, ONI has some major power, so it would make sense to make themselves heroes while throwing a rival under the bus. Maybe Traviss (or an in-universe counterpart) is a Section II operative writing the story of their organization's heroes.
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