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* Counterpoint: Kratos stabbing himself to death with the Blade of Olympus drained most of his divine-based powers, which included ''draining his soul''. Then all the Blade's power was shattered and splintered into billions of tiny collectible fragments for the mortals to collect. If there's any of Hades left, it's a mere spark now.
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* The Norse Saga reveals that while gods are generally stronger than any mortal can be, they all have one consistent glaring ''weakness'': [[spoiler:Power makes a god ''predictable''. The reason why all those prophecies related to gods and demigods are so scarily accurate is because the number of potential outcomes where a god doesn't make a specific choice based on their specific personality is close to zero. [[ScrewDestiny Few prophecies bind mortals]].]] Once the world's prostrating convinces a god that they are unstoppable, they ''will'' stop improving. This is both why Odin is revealed to be even ''stronger'' than the entire Greek pantheon combined, yet more doomed than ''they'' were; [[spoiler:his sociopathic paranoia ensured he'd never stop improving, preparing, and stockpiling, yet at the same time, it also prevented him from trusting anyone or even caring about their lives. By the end, his other eight neighbors have banded together and started the apocalypse just to end one genocidal maniac, and true to his nature, he's still unaware that he could have avoided this if he didn't ''consistently'' backstab and slaughter everyone.]]
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* The Norse Saga reveals that while gods are generally stronger than any mortal can be, they usually fight like mortals and all have one consistent glaring ''weakness'': [[spoiler:Power makes a god ''predictable''. The reason why all those prophecies related to gods and demigods are so scarily accurate is because the number of potential outcomes where a god doesn't make a specific choice based on their specific personality is close to zero. [[ScrewDestiny Few In contrast, few prophecies bind mortals]].]] Once the world's prostrating convinces a god that they are unstoppable, they ''will'' stop improving. This is both why Odin is revealed to be even ''stronger'' than the entire Greek pantheon combined, yet more doomed than ''they'' were; [[spoiler:his sociopathic paranoia ensured he'd never stop improving, preparing, and stockpiling, yet at the same time, it also prevented him from trusting anyone or even caring about their lives. By the end, his other eight neighbors have banded together and started the apocalypse just to end one genocidal maniac, and true to his nature, he's still unaware that he could have avoided this if he didn't ''consistently'' backstab and and/or slaughter everyone.everyone he ''ever'' met.]]
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* Yup, confirmed.
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* Jossed, the sequels are about Kratos and his new son Atreus.
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At the end of God of War III, Athena's plan to cleanse the world in Chaos and rebuild it using hope indicates a rather dark side to the Goddess' motives. She sealed [[spoiler: the power of Hope]] inside the Box, which in a roundabout way made the world vulnerable to the Evils when Pandora's Box was opened. Her tool for all of this was Kratos, the Marked Warrior. She wasn't 'sheltering' Kratos from Olympus to protect him, but to suit her own purpose.
The possibility also exists that '''SHE''' was the one who orchestrated for Calliope and Lysandra to be in that temple, so Kratos would kill them under Ares' influence. After all, it was '''Athena's temple''', and Kratos thought he left his daughter and wife in Sparta. This will most likely be what the final God of War game's purpose will be: learning of Athena's manipulations.
The possibility also exists that '''SHE''' was the one who orchestrated for Calliope and Lysandra to be in that temple, so Kratos would kill them under Ares' influence. After all, it was '''Athena's temple''', and Kratos thought he left his daughter and wife in Sparta. This will most likely be what the final God of War game's purpose will be: learning of Athena's manipulations.
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At the end of God of War III, Athena's plan to cleanse the world in Chaos and rebuild it using hope indicates a rather dark side to the Goddess' motives. She sealed [[spoiler: the power of Hope]] inside the Box, which in a roundabout way made the world vulnerable to the Evils when Pandora's Box was opened. Her tool for all of this was Kratos, the Marked Warrior. She wasn't 'sheltering' Kratos from Olympus to protect him, but to suit her own purpose. \n\n\\
The possibility also exists that'''SHE''' '''she''' was the one who orchestrated for Calliope and Lysandra to be in that temple, so Kratos would kill them under Ares' influence. After all, it was '''Athena's temple''', and Kratos thought he left his daughter and wife in Sparta. This will most likely be what the final God of War game's purpose will be: learning of Athena's manipulations.
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* There's also the possibility that [[spoiler:The Athena we see in God of War III was a twisted magic experiment that split Athena's personality in two. The original Athena mellows out and becomes a wiser leader, while the spectral clone Athena takes on her old ambitions. Ultimately, Greed chose to possess the latter, while the former became saintly but inept.]]
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[[WMG: Many of the enemies Kratos fights in God of War II and III are actually [[BossInMookClothing minor gods/goddesses/heroes/other mythological figures in generic form]]]]
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[[WMG: God of War's version of Greece is located ''in'' the Mediterranean Sea - or rather, the Mediterranean ''Basin'']]
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[[WMG: God of War's version of Greece is located ''in'' the Mediterranean Sea - or rather, the Mediterranean ''Basin'']]''Basin''.]]
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[[WMG: Dying with too much power makes your soul go nuclear and you stay DeaderThanDead]]
There's a consistent pattern to Kratos dying; he keeps losing any god-like power each time. Chains of Olympus: still a mortal and easily imprisoned after dying in the ''underworld''. GOW I: Stabbed to death and lived long enough to bleed out. GOW II: Tricked into draining his divinity and then stabbed to death. GOW III: Lost ''all'' his power by stabbing himself with the ultimate weapon, regained a little by re-absorbing some of it as it fell down. Valhalla: ''everyone'' who dies in Valhalla loses most of the power they gain, and nobody's allowed to enter without a LevelDrain.\\
In contrast, we see that gods with ''too much power'' tend to... explode. The most prevalent case is Ares, who literally explodes with the force of a ''nuke''. Athena also explodes, less than her brother for managing her power levels, but still enough to immolate her body in uncontrolled healing energy. And especially Poseidon, whose death causes ''the most chaos'' in the apocalypse as the explosion creates a tsunami. But in contrast, Hades' soul is ripped out of his body before it can explode, while Helios manages to survive his own death for a few painful hours because ''his head was ripped off'', leaving most of his divine power in his dead body. The other gods had their bodies and souls eaten away by insects and diseases from the inside, meaning they didn't explode but were already hollowed out from decay. And finally, since Zeus hogged all the power, his death even after losing most of it also caused a classic explosion.\\
In the same fashion as Helios, Mimir has his head cut off by Kratos, permanently killing and crippling him but making it ''easy'' to turn him into an immortal undead. Magni and Modi didn't overpower themselves because they thought they were invincible. Baldur's true power was destroyed by the Mistletoe, leaving him a merely powerful insane battlemage. Heimdall mostly used fine-tuned prediction magics and then exhausted himself expending all the Bifrost in his body out of pure rage, leaving him with nothing left to explode. Thor ''disintegrates'' when he's stabbed to death, a unique form of controlled power that still proves unstable when he dies. Finally, Odin's soul is carefully separated from his body, meaning his body remains in a coma until Ragnarok can finally smash it and blow Asgard up.
There's a consistent pattern here: stuffing your body with divine power past safe limits will cause it to go nuclear if you lose total control - by dying. The blast is so great that even your soul explodes.
There's a consistent pattern to Kratos dying; he keeps losing any god-like power each time. Chains of Olympus: still a mortal and easily imprisoned after dying in the ''underworld''. GOW I: Stabbed to death and lived long enough to bleed out. GOW II: Tricked into draining his divinity and then stabbed to death. GOW III: Lost ''all'' his power by stabbing himself with the ultimate weapon, regained a little by re-absorbing some of it as it fell down. Valhalla: ''everyone'' who dies in Valhalla loses most of the power they gain, and nobody's allowed to enter without a LevelDrain.\\
In contrast, we see that gods with ''too much power'' tend to... explode. The most prevalent case is Ares, who literally explodes with the force of a ''nuke''. Athena also explodes, less than her brother for managing her power levels, but still enough to immolate her body in uncontrolled healing energy. And especially Poseidon, whose death causes ''the most chaos'' in the apocalypse as the explosion creates a tsunami. But in contrast, Hades' soul is ripped out of his body before it can explode, while Helios manages to survive his own death for a few painful hours because ''his head was ripped off'', leaving most of his divine power in his dead body. The other gods had their bodies and souls eaten away by insects and diseases from the inside, meaning they didn't explode but were already hollowed out from decay. And finally, since Zeus hogged all the power, his death even after losing most of it also caused a classic explosion.\\
In the same fashion as Helios, Mimir has his head cut off by Kratos, permanently killing and crippling him but making it ''easy'' to turn him into an immortal undead. Magni and Modi didn't overpower themselves because they thought they were invincible. Baldur's true power was destroyed by the Mistletoe, leaving him a merely powerful insane battlemage. Heimdall mostly used fine-tuned prediction magics and then exhausted himself expending all the Bifrost in his body out of pure rage, leaving him with nothing left to explode. Thor ''disintegrates'' when he's stabbed to death, a unique form of controlled power that still proves unstable when he dies. Finally, Odin's soul is carefully separated from his body, meaning his body remains in a coma until Ragnarok can finally smash it and blow Asgard up.
There's a consistent pattern here: stuffing your body with divine power past safe limits will cause it to go nuclear if you lose total control - by dying. The blast is so great that even your soul explodes.
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[[WMG: The future of the series is Aztec, Japanese, ''and'' Egyptian.]]
Most fans have always hoped to see Egyptian mythology in the next saga, being the typical natural extension of any universe in which both Greek and Norse mythology are true. In the ''Valhalla'' DLC, the Host uses weapons from his travels: Egyptian khopeshes, an Aztec club, and a katana. If anything, this emphasizes the fact that every time Egyptian myth is hinted at throughout the Norse saga, Aztec and Japanese motifs are right there alongside it. I think what the Norse saga was trying to tell us all along is that the next saga, perhaps revolving around Atreus's travels to other realms, will consist of all three of those mythologies at once. Building on that, the "rise of Christianity" ending considered for the series since at least early development of ''God of War II'' and ''III'' might still be on the table: perhaps despite Atreus's best efforts, his family's travels through a pantheon's lands are always destined to end in that pantheon's destruction; taking out three at once would be a disaster characteristic of the mythical Loki.
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* Actually, I think if Kratos does become Old Testament God and ends up having a mortal son, he'll manage to break the OedipusComplex cycle because as we have seen, Kratos actually cares about his family. Considering that he has nightmares about murdering his family every time he sleeps, he had a {{Heroic BSOD}} when Ares murdered replicas of them while he was helpless to stop it, he gave up all his powers just to be with Calliope in Chains of Olympus, he was begging for forgiveness from Gaia when she appeared as his wife (before she revealed it was her)in GOW 2, and that the only times he ever actually acts heroic is when it concerns his family... I find it very hard to believe he'd mistreat Jesus. It would explain why God was ready to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge when Jesus was crucified before Christ convinced him. In fact, I'm gonna make a big guess here and say Jesus actually manages to MAKE Kratos a DefectorFromDecadence and into the New Testament God we know and many love. Yeah, i know it damn well isn't likely but you have to admit it would make for one helluva SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.
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* Actually, I think if Kratos does become Old Testament God and ends up having a mortal son, he'll manage to break the OedipusComplex Oedipus Complex cycle because as we have seen, Kratos actually cares about his family. Considering that he has nightmares about murdering his family every time he sleeps, he had a {{Heroic BSOD}} when Ares murdered replicas of them while he was helpless to stop it, he gave up all his powers just to be with Calliope in Chains of Olympus, he was begging for forgiveness from Gaia when she appeared as his wife (before she revealed it was her)in GOW 2, and that the only times he ever actually acts heroic is when it concerns his family... I find it very hard to believe he'd mistreat Jesus. It would explain why God was ready to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge when Jesus was crucified before Christ convinced him. In fact, I'm gonna make a big guess here and say Jesus actually manages to MAKE Kratos a DefectorFromDecadence and into the New Testament God we know and many love. Yeah, i know it damn well isn't likely but you have to admit it would make for one helluva SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.
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The other thing, tge only elemental power we see in the demo is ice, via Kratos's axe. It could be postulated then that the axe is Jotunn related.
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* [[spoiler:This apple didn't fall too far from its tree.]]
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[[WMG: Both Mimir and Odin's stories about how he lost the eye are true]]
Yes, Mimir's story is probably true, and it is in character for Odin to lie about something that meaningless, but that doesn't mean he ''has'' to be lying that specific time. Tyr proves that gods can regrow lost body parts, and if he's resourceful enough to do it, then Odin probably is too. So, the order of events goes something like this:
* Odin gets duped by Mimir and tears out one eye.
* Odin regenerates that eye.
* Odin decides it's a good idea to take a peek into the rift with said renewed eye, potentially getting overconfident because he regrew it the first time.
* The magic of the rift burns out Odin's eye, this time beyond his ability to heal.
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[[WMG: Kratos is the god of change.]]
Ever since the first game, Kratos has had the odd ability to change things so they work out for him. It also explains why in the earlier games we get to use PressXToNotDie and in Ragnarok change how he goes about doing things after visiting the Nord sisters. Not all change is good or bad, but things turn out very different no matter what he does.
Ever since the first game, Kratos has had the odd ability to change things so they work out for him. It also explains why in the earlier games we get to use PressXToNotDie and in Ragnarok change how he goes about doing things after visiting the Nord sisters. Not all change is good or bad, but things turn out very different no matter what he does.
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[[WMG: The climax of ''Videogame/GodOfWarAscension'' is based on that of ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'']]]]
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[[WMG: The climax of ''Videogame/GodOfWarAscension'' is based on that of ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'']]]]
''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'']]
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* While this theory is nearly dead, it should be noted that the... ''thing'' Athena turned into in the third game does not make any sense. Gods who die ''with their power intact'' are effectively DeaderThanDead; every resurrection in the franchise requires the target to be significantly weaker than a full god, and Athena exploded with the force of a nuke like her brother, signifying what should have been her permadeath. Her agenda as a spirit does not fit her agenda as a goddess. In fact, her personality - her support and goading of Kratos' talents at genocide, a façade of kindness around children she wants to manipulate, and an outburst of temper when she can't control Kratos at the very end - is disturbingly ''familiar''...
