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*** Toning down one's badassery wouldn't be unrealistic, there was a guy who in WW2 killed nazis with a machinegun with a grenade seconds of exploding on his hand and then threw it on a tank, it wouldn't feel out of place in a Rambo movie, [[FreakierThanFiction but it was real life.]]
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*** Toning down one's badassery wouldn't be unrealistic, there was a guy who in WW2 [=WW2=] killed nazis with a machinegun with a grenade seconds of exploding on his hand and then threw it on a tank, it wouldn't feel out of place in a Rambo movie, [[FreakierThanFiction but it was real life.]]
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*** Toning down one's badassery wouldn't be unrealistic, there was a guy who in WW2 killed nazis with a machinegun with a grenade seconds of exploding on his hand and then threw it on a tank, it wouldn't feel out of place in a Rambo movie, [[FreakierThanFiction but it was real life.]]
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[[WMG:Ramza got out of Murond by screaming until a hole in space-time opened up.]]
Hey, if it worked for [[Anime/DragonBallZ Buu and Gotenks]], why not Ramza, whose ''specialty'' is screaming?
Hey, if it worked for [[Anime/DragonBallZ Buu and Gotenks]], why not Ramza, whose ''specialty'' is screaming?
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[[WMG:Delita cut Valmafra's tongue out to force her to the sidelines]]
Okay, so we know that she fails to kill Delita, fade to black, she screams, and disappears from the game until the epilogue, during which she doesn't speak and communicates with pantomime. We also know that at least very early on she was going to be a playable character, and her class was Arc Witch - a spellcasting class. We also know that in FFT, spells are cast verbally because characters charging up to cast a spell can be seen chanting, and being muted prevents spellcasting. So a character with no tongue wouldn't be able to cast spells. And since Valmafra is a caster, Delita could render her mostly harmless without killing her by cutting her tongue out. Did he have to? Probably not, but it's a Delita kind of thing to do.
Okay, so we know that she fails to kill Delita, fade to black, she screams, and disappears from the game until the epilogue, during which she doesn't speak and communicates with pantomime. We also know that at least very early on she was going to be a playable character, and her class was Arc Witch - a spellcasting class. We also know that in FFT, spells are cast verbally because characters charging up to cast a spell can be seen chanting, and being muted prevents spellcasting. So a character with no tongue wouldn't be able to cast spells. And since Valmafra is a caster, Delita could render her mostly harmless without killing her by cutting her tongue out. Did he have to? Probably not, but it's a Delita kind of thing to do.
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* Doesn't seem likely. If the Durai Report was the only source or it differed too much from other surviving documents, historians would have dismissed it outright. (And the Church probably wouldn't have surpressed it for several hundred years.) Besides, aside from the magical stuff, nothing that happens in Tactics is all that different from Europe's Late Medieval Era. So why would Olan have to make anything up?
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* Doesn't seem likely. If the Durai Report was the only source or it differed too much from other surviving documents, historians would have dismissed it outright. (And the Church probably wouldn't have surpressed suppressed it for several hundred years.) Besides, aside from the magical stuff, nothing that happens in Tactics is all that different from Europe's Late Medieval Era. So why would Olan have to make anything up?
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I mean, hell, ''WotL'' practically gives this to you on a silver platter if you know Balthier's true name - [[spoiler:Ffamran mied '''Bunansa''']], not to mention the characters' similar function and skillset. And that Balthier's skillset is essentially Mustadio's on steroids. Also, even if Balthier's not the one Mustadio is descended from (which would naturally be one more reason to ask whether [[DidTheyOrDidntThey Balthier and Fran...]]), it's mentioned that Cidolfus Bunansa (Balthier's father) had two other sons whose names and statuses are not mentioned. A lot of times in RPGs, missing relatives that don't ever show up = dead relatives - but what if they, like Balthier, lived under assumed identities, perhaps only resurfacing after Cid's death? Given that Mustadio's surname was given the smallest of alterations (from "Bunan'''z'''a" to "Bunan'''s'''a") specifically to match that of the FFXII father-son duo, their relation is almost a certainty. [[FridgeBrilliance And if Balthier's the progenitor and the lesson of what happens when human beings screw with power they're not meant to wield, was passed from father to son, it would explain why Besrodio attempted to take control of the Zodiac Stone.]]
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I mean, hell, ''WotL'' practically gives this to you on a silver platter if you know Balthier's true name - [[spoiler:Ffamran mied '''Bunansa''']], not to mention the characters' similar function and skillset. And that Balthier's skillset is essentially Mustadio's on steroids. Also, even if Balthier's not the one Mustadio is descended from (which would naturally be one more reason to ask whether [[DidTheyOrDidntThey Balthier and Fran...]]), it's mentioned that Cidolfus Bunansa (Balthier's father) had two other sons whose names and statuses are not mentioned. A lot of times in RPGs, MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame, missing relatives that don't ever show up = dead relatives - but what if they, like Balthier, lived under assumed identities, perhaps only resurfacing after Cid's death? Given that Mustadio's surname was given the smallest of alterations (from "Bunan'''z'''a" to "Bunan'''s'''a") specifically to match that of the FFXII father-son duo, their relation is almost a certainty. [[FridgeBrilliance And if Balthier's the progenitor and the lesson of what happens when human beings screw with power they're not meant to wield, was passed from father to son, it would explain why Besrodio attempted to take control of the Zodiac Stone.]]
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*** In fact, Olan probably thought his adoptive father's true baddassery wouldn't be believable and so he toned it down.
* Doesn't seem likely. If the Durai Report was the only source or it differed too much from other surviving documents, historians would have dismissed it outright. (And the Church probably wouldn't have surpressed it for several hundred years.) Besides, aside from the magical stuff, nothing that happens in Tactics is all that different from Europe's Late Medieval Era. So why would Olan have to make anything up?
* Doesn't seem likely. If the Durai Report was the only source or it differed too much from other surviving documents, historians would have dismissed it outright. (And the Church probably wouldn't have surpressed it for several hundred years.) Besides, aside from the magical stuff, nothing that happens in Tactics is all that different from Europe's Late Medieval Era. So why would Olan have to make anything up?
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*** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
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*** [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' ''VideoGame/VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
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[[WMG: The Lucavi were NOT the result of ExecutiveMeddling, and are in fact based on the Apostles from {[Manga/Berserk}}]].
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[[WMG: The Lucavi were NOT the result of ExecutiveMeddling, and are in fact based on the Apostles from {[Manga/Berserk}}]].
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[[WMG: The Lucavi were NOT the result of ExecutiveMeddling, and are in fact based on the Apostles from {[Manga/Berserk}}]].
Over the years many people have taken issue with the Lucavi, feeling that they either didn't fit into the story or just took away from the uniqueness of Tactics' (comparatively) grounded story and morally grey political intrigue by adding an unambiguously evil supernatural entity. To justify this dislike many people have speculated that Square pressured Matsuno into adding some more supernatural elements into the game's plot to make it more in line with the rest of the FF series.
While this is possible, a number of people over the years have suggested that Matsuno is probably just a fan of Berserk and was inspired by it in the creation of Tactics, which makes a lot of sense when you consider the similarities between the two.
First, the setting, themes and general tone have a lot of similarities to the "Golden Age" part of the manga, with political intrigue, a CrapsackWorld DungAges setting, and themes of political ambition ESPECIALLY with Delita who is vaguely reminiscent of Griffith's character as a commoner with aspirations to the throne and who is willing to do whatever it takes to get to the top.
However there are two even MORE specific similarities that make the inspiration a strong possibility. The first is the whole reed flute thing, which in Tactics is a symbol of Ramza and Delita's camaraderie, is ALSO present in an iconic scene in Berserk where Griffith uses it to charm Charlotte by showing how earthly and down-to-earth he supposedly is.
But the HUGE one is the Lucavi themselves. In Berserk, there are items called "behelits" which are eggs with human features scattered about. They have a nasty habit of finding their way to people at just the moment where they are most emotionally disraught and/or about to die, at which moment the Behelit's features shift around to form a face, which screams and summons the Godhand, who are a group of godlike demonic entities. They propose a DealWithTheDevil where the person will be free of their suffering, but they must in turn sacrifice whatever is most important to them (usually a loved one). When they take up the bargain, they are transformed into "Apostles", which are demons for all intents and purposes. This transformation usually (though not always) causes the person to lose most of their humanity and grow bloodthirsty and cruel. Their appearance changes, with many of them remaining humanoid but possessing warped, twisted features (unusual and menacing eyes are the most consistent feature), and they can also transform into another, much more monstrous and powerful form which is usually quite frightening and demonic.
Does any of that sound familiar? Because it's fundamentally the same way the Lucavi and the Zodiac Stones work, with a few minor to medium differences. They also serve a similar narrative purpose (in Berserk's golden age arc moreso) in that the setting is relatively grounded, and they serve as a looming, otherwordly, invasive and almost lovecraftian threat lurking in the shadows, an untold unspeakable terror that feels like it's too horrible to even exist.
The timeline for this also checks out; while the first Berserk anime had not aired yet (it was due to come out in a few months actually), the manga was being serialized and the story had already gone through all the aforementioned points and events even by the time Matsuno and his team would have started working on Tactics. This would mean that Matsuno was familiar with the manga, which is still plenty plausible still.
It's still possible that this is all a big coincidence (Berserk itself is subject to this, with a seemingly obvious inspiration for Guts' character actually being completely unknown to its creator before it was pointed out to him), but it's an interesting alternative to the oft-cited ExecutiveMeddling that makes more sense on the whole.
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[[WMG: Olan was more or less on the mark... except that he couldn't resist writing himself and his uncle Orlandu as more {{Bad Ass}} than they really were.]]
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[[WMG: Olan was more or less on the mark... except that he couldn't resist writing himself and his uncle Orlandu as more {{Bad Ass}} badass than they really were.]]
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[[WMG: Mustadio is a descendant or great- (x a lot) nephew of Balthier. ]]
I mean, hell, ''WotL'' practically gives this to you on a silver platter if you know Balthier's true name - [[spoiler:Ffamran mied '''Bunansa''']], not to mention the characters' similar function and skillset. And that Balthier's skillset is essentially Mustadio's on steroids. Also, even if Balthier's not the one Mustadio is descended from (which would naturally be one more reason to ask whether [[DidTheyOrDidntThey Balthier and Fran...]]), it's mentioned that Cidolfus Bunansa (Balthier's father) had two other sons whose names and statuses are not mentioned. A lot of times in RPGs, missing relatives that don't ever show up = dead relatives - but what if they, like Balthier, lived under assumed identities, perhaps only resurfacing after Cid's death? Given that Mustadio's surname was given the smallest of alterations (from "Bunan'''z'''a" to "Bunan'''s'''a") specifically to match that of the FFXII father-son duo, their relation is almost a certainty. [[FridgeBrilliance And if Balthier's the progenitor and the lesson of what happens when human beings screw with power they're not meant to wield, was passed from father to son, it would explain why Besrodio attempted to take control of the Zodiac Stone.]]
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One of the unique spells Ramza can learn via the 'hit by attack and survive' mechanic later in the game is Ultima. In a case of TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything, the The other two types of characters that can learn this spell is Ultima Demons... and Alma. Who is Ramza's mother, again?
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** Revive spells are almost never mentioned in cutscenes, AFAIK. The closest I can think of is Ramza asking for a phoenix down, but that's not the same thing. Besides, the fact that revive spells work just fine for characters who just [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill had their souls sucked out of them or were hit at point-blank with a fireball from the King of Dragons]], it's [[FridgeLogic hard to believe]] they'd just stop working for "mere" bullet or crossbow wounds, just because it's a cutscene. Hence why it's slightly more believable to think that the spells are just there for gameplay reasons and don't exist in-story.
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** Revive spells are almost never mentioned in cutscenes, AFAIK. The closest I can think of is Ramza asking for a phoenix down, but that's not the same thing. Besides, the fact that revive spells work just fine for characters who just [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill had their souls sucked out of them or were hit at point-blank with a fireball from the King of Dragons]], so it's [[FridgeLogic hard to believe]] they'd just stop working for "mere" bullet or crossbow wounds, just because it's a cutscene. Hence why it's slightly more believable to think that the spells are just there for gameplay reasons and don't exist in-story.
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The treants we see in Tactics are much more human looking than, those from Final Fantasy XII, and aside from both being tree-like, and in fact, the two look nothing alike, aside from sharing a tree motive. The Treats in this game have even a pretty similar facial structure to Viera. Viera are describedalso have also very close relationship with the woods were they like, and even are regard themselves as part of it. It is possible that they decided to merge with the trees, or transfer their souls into them, in order to survive the cataclysm that decimated other intelligent races of Ivalice, aside from hume/humans. The sprites that are mentioned to give Treants their consciousness, would be in fact, souls of Viera.
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The treants we see in Tactics are much more human looking than, those from Final Fantasy XII, and aside from both being tree-like, and in fact, the two look nothing alike, aside from sharing a tree motive. The Treats in this game have even a pretty similar facial structure similar to Viera, which in both cases, is very slightly snout-like. The Viera. Viera also are describedalso have also very close relationship with the Woods, woods were they like, and even are mentioned regard themselves as part of it. It is possible that they decided to merge with the Trees, trees, or Transfer transfer their souls to into them, in order to survive the cataclyst cataclysm that decimated other inteligent intelligent races of Ivalice, aside from hume/humans?hume/humans. The sprites that are mentioned to give Treants their consciousness, would be in fact, souls of Viera.
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The treants we see in Tactics are much more human looking than, those from Final Fantasy XII, and have a facial structure similar to Viera, which in both cases, is very slightly snout-like. The Viera also have also very close relationship with the Woods, even are mentioned as part of it. It is possible that they decided to merge with the Trees, or Transfer their souls to them, in order to survive the cataclyst that decimated other inteligent races of Ivalice, aside from hume/humans?
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* In the remake, Luso also gets it. Then again, Luso in FFT is a walking ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' teaser trailer, and his being a Ramza clone as far as abilities go, might be a way to indicate that Luso would be more like Ramza than like Marche.
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* In the remake, Luso also gets it. Then again, Luso in FFT is a walking ''FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' teaser trailer, and his being a Ramza clone as far as abilities go, might be a way to indicate that Luso would be more like Ramza than like Marche.
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*** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''FinalFantasy12'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
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*** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''FinalFantasy12'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
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And the fact that most of "Gafgarion's" party is composed of Ramza's old platoon means that the Dark Knight was going to be outnumbered anyway.
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Because Alma is the "perfect host" for the angel Ultima. He's her brother, and some of the compatibility carries over; thus when subjected to Ultima's energies, he can control it a bit himself.
** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''FinalFantasy12'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
Because Alma is the "perfect host" for the angel Ultima. He's her brother, and some of the compatibility carries over; thus when subjected to Ultima's energies, he can control it a bit himself.
** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in ''FinalFantasy12'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima]].
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** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in FinalFantasy12 ''FinalFantasy12'' (Also Ivalice); including the [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ultima_%28Ivalice%29 Angel Ultima.Ultima]].
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** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory''.''VagrantStory'' (Ivalice). Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in FinalFantasy12 (Also Ivalice); including the Angel Ultima.
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Because Alma is the "perfect host" for the angel Ultima. He's her brother, and some of the compatibility carries over; thus when subjected to Ultima's energies, he can control it a bit himself.
** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory''. Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in FinalFantasy12 (Also Ivalice); including the Angel Ultima.
Because Alma is the "perfect host" for the angel Ultima. He's her brother, and some of the compatibility carries over; thus when subjected to Ultima's energies, he can control it a bit himself.
** [[FinalFantasyTacticsA2 Luso]] can do it because he's an inverse SummonEverymanHero of the Grimoire; which was the force behind summonings in ''VagrantStory''. Thus this was also the power that bound the SummonMagic in FinalFantasy12 (Also Ivalice); including the Angel Ultima.
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Ramza, the Beoulve Black Sheep and a "bastard" child (or at least the son of a concubine/second wife), shipped off to the Ivalice equivalent of boot camp, just ''happened'' to be the future king's best friend and the lynch-pin in saving Ivalice from demons trying to take over the church? Yeah, right. Olan was what Ramza was really like, changed into T.G. Cid's nephew because he hated his real-life family.
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Ramza, the Beoulve Black Sheep and a "bastard" child (or at least the son of a concubine/second wife), shipped off to the Ivalice equivalent of boot camp, just ''happened'' to be the future king's best friend and the lynch-pin in saving Ivalice from demons trying to take over the church? Yeah, right. Olan was what Ramza was really like, changed into T.G. Cid's nephew adopted son because he hated his real-life family.
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