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Much like how only another Servant can summon a fictional Servant; an NPC can summon the Divine as their Servants because they share a quality with them; that of not being real. Note; this is a funny condition in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} that has nothing to do with not existing. (Example: The Demons in LightNovel/DDD).

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Much like how only another Servant can summon a fictional Servant; an NPC can summon the Divine as their Servants because they share a quality with them; that of not being real. Note; this is a funny condition in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} that has nothing to do with not existing. (Example: The Demons in LightNovel/DDD).''Literature/{{DDD}}'').



According to Extra, TheMagicGoesAway during the 1970s; [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/Stay Night]] happened in the 90s, placing ''LightNovel/FateZero'' in the eighties at the latest since Stay/Night occurred ten years after the previous Grail War. It's not implausible that Kiritsgusu would have been a 'hitman' regardless, he just shifted his focus to the Western European Plutocracy that would have taken the place of magi as the threat oppressing/misusing Mankind. Prior to becoming Archer, [[http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Extraarcher.png Shirou]] was not only affected by overuse of thaumaturgy, his hair white and his eyes graying, but is depicted with a scoped sniper rifle not unlike those used by Kiritsugu in ''LightNovel/FateZero''. With a more hostile world climate than that of the 'original' timeline, the prevalence of orphans would not be unlikely: Dialogue about the real world indicate it was in a state of open war thirty years prior, most tellingly in Twice's flashbacks and Alice's mention about men with tanks and guns and metal helmets. The-boy-would-be-Shirou was orphaned and adopted by Kiritsugu as before, only instead of it being a result of the Fuyuki Fire it was the kind of instability and conflict you'd expect from a world at war.

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According to Extra, TheMagicGoesAway during the 1970s; [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/Stay Night]] ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' happened in the 90s, placing ''LightNovel/FateZero'' ''Literature/FateZero'' in the eighties at the latest since Stay/Night occurred ten years after the previous Grail War. It's not implausible that Kiritsgusu would have been a 'hitman' regardless, he just shifted his focus to the Western European Plutocracy that would have taken the place of magi as the threat oppressing/misusing Mankind. Prior to becoming Archer, [[http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Extraarcher.png Shirou]] was not only affected by overuse of thaumaturgy, his hair white and his eyes graying, but is depicted with a scoped sniper rifle not unlike those used by Kiritsugu in ''LightNovel/FateZero''.''Literature/FateZero''. With a more hostile world climate than that of the 'original' timeline, the prevalence of orphans would not be unlikely: Dialogue about the real world indicate it was in a state of open war thirty years prior, most tellingly in Twice's flashbacks and Alice's mention about men with tanks and guns and metal helmets. The-boy-would-be-Shirou was orphaned and adopted by Kiritsugu as before, only instead of it being a result of the Fuyuki Fire it was the kind of instability and conflict you'd expect from a world at war.



Without the luxury of peace and normality experienced by [=FSN=] Shirou, Fate/Extra Shirou set off down the trail that Kiritsugu had blazed, a path which ended much like what Kiritsugu might have experienced had he continued as the MageKiller: Following his ideals without factoring in human emotion eventually isolated Shirou from his loved ones, becoming the embodiment of impartial Justice that [=FSN=] Shirou avoided by placing his humanity first. In another similarity to (at least one alternate version of) the original Shirou, Extra's Archer became a Servant despite his lack of legend, agreeing to serve the Moon Cell not unlike how Fate/Stay Night's Archer became a Counter Guardian.

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Without the luxury of peace and normality experienced by [=FSN=] ''[=FSN=]'' Shirou, Fate/Extra ''Fate/Extra'' Shirou set off down the trail that Kiritsugu had blazed, a path which ended much like what Kiritsugu might have experienced had he continued as the MageKiller: Following his ideals without factoring in human emotion eventually isolated Shirou from his loved ones, becoming the embodiment of impartial Justice that [=FSN=] ''[=FSN=]'' Shirou avoided by placing his humanity first. In another similarity to (at least one alternate version of) the original Shirou, Extra's Archer became a Servant despite his lack of legend, agreeing to serve the Moon Cell not unlike how Fate/Stay Night's Archer became a Counter Guardian.



I don't remember the details but in the various notes about Tsukihime/etc, there was mention of a massive ritual that got interrupted. This makes me think in this timeline for some reason it was not interrupted, and went terribly wrong.

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I don't remember the details but in the various notes about Tsukihime/etc, ''Tsukihime''/etc, there was mention of a massive ritual that got interrupted. This makes me think in this timeline for some reason it was not interrupted, and went terribly wrong.



[[WMG: Fate Extra CCC will answer questions about the orgin of the Moon Cell, Twice and the MC, and what the real world is like.]]

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[[WMG: Fate ''Fate Extra CCC CCC'' will answer questions about the orgin of the Moon Cell, Twice and the MC, and what the real world is like.]]



...because if [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Shiki Ryougi]] and Arcueid have cameos in Fate/EXTRA, this makes sense. Also, Shiki might say he's looking for Arcueid as an inverse of what happened in Fate/EXTRA.

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...because if [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners [[Literature/TheGardenOfSinners Shiki Ryougi]] and Arcueid have cameos in Fate/EXTRA, ''Fate/EXTRA'', this makes sense. Also, Shiki might say he's looking for Arcueid as an inverse of what happened in Fate/EXTRA.
''Fate/EXTRA''.



[[WMG: Fate/EXTRA CCC will be the last Fate project]]
If the Rumors and Nasu's words are true, according to his interview on Fate/EXTRA CCC on Type-Moon Ace 8, this game may be Nasu's permanent/complete end for Fate series/franchise.
* He changed his mind, is currently working on more stuff with Fate and even EXTRA itself. He said he's really feeling it.

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[[WMG: Fate/EXTRA CCC ''Fate/EXTRA CCC'' will be the last Fate ''Fate'' project]]
If the Rumors rumors and Nasu's words are true, according to his interview on Fate/EXTRA CCC ''Fate/EXTRA CCC'' on Type-Moon Ace 8, this game may be Nasu's permanent/complete end for Fate ''Fate'' series/franchise.
* He changed his mind, is currently working on more stuff with Fate ''Fate'' and even EXTRA ''EXTRA'' itself. He said he's really feeling it.

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!!''Fate/Extra''

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!!''Fate/Extra''
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!!''Fate/EXTRA''



Numerous times near the beginning of the week, it's commented on how "an incredible urge to kill" was approaching the character, but then would stop and go away. It's implied that this is [[spoiler: Rin/Lancer or Rani/Beserker]] setting up an attack but then not able to go through with it. While a Berserker would make sense; the exact same dialogue is for Lancer's path as well. What was happening was that the 6th Master was fighting [[spoiler: the resurrected Julius]]; which is why his pin was in the fountain. It was a combination of this and dealing with conflicting emotions in fighting the main character that lead to the events of the 6th week.

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Numerous times near the beginning of the week, it's commented on how "an incredible urge to kill" was approaching the character, but then would stop and go away. It's implied that this is [[spoiler: Rin/Lancer or Rani/Beserker]] Rani/Beserker setting up an attack but then not able to go through with it. While a Berserker would make sense; the exact same dialogue is for Lancer's path as well. What was happening was that the 6th Master was fighting [[spoiler: the resurrected Julius]]; Julius; which is why his pin was in the fountain. It was a combination of this and dealing with conflicting emotions in fighting the main character that lead to the events of the 6th week.



They sometimes act dumb; but they all show signs of self-intelligence; usually just in front of the main character; who doesn't count if they slip. [[spoiler: The Main Character and Twice Pieceman are not aware of this because Moon Cell wants to see what they do.]]
* Mostly confirmed in ''CCC'': [[spoiler:the [=NPCs=] are various levels of self-aware, depending on their function, and nearly all of the ones in the Far Side schoolhouse are self-aware to ''some'' degree since they're outside the usual parameters of the HGW. The ones in ''Extra'' seem a little odd at times because [=NPCs=] during the HGW are meant to act on certain parameters to help advance the competition. And, in fact, a certain NPC being ''altogether too sentient'' is really what sparks the entire plot of ''CCC''...]]

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They sometimes act dumb; but they all show signs of self-intelligence; usually just in front of the main character; who doesn't count if they slip. [[spoiler: The Main Character and Twice Pieceman are not aware of this because Moon Cell wants to see what they do.]]
do.
* Mostly confirmed in ''CCC'': [[spoiler:the the [=NPCs=] are various levels of self-aware, depending on their function, and nearly all of the ones in the Far Side schoolhouse are self-aware to ''some'' degree since they're outside the usual parameters of the HGW. The ones in ''Extra'' seem a little odd at times because [=NPCs=] during the HGW are meant to act on certain parameters to help advance the competition. And, in fact, a certain NPC being ''altogether too sentient'' is really what sparks the entire plot of ''CCC''...]]
''CCC''...



* Nobody is deleted when they lose a Colosseum match. The Moon Cell records; it doesn't delete. It just moves their data to a different folder. (non-accessible.) However, their bodies on Physical Earth still die. [[spoiler: Julius disrupted this transfer.]] They are likely merged with the copied record of ''themselves.'' (No reason in having two.)

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* Nobody is deleted when they lose a Colosseum match. The Moon Cell records; it doesn't delete. It just moves their data to a different folder. (non-accessible.) However, their bodies on Physical Earth still die. [[spoiler: Julius disrupted this transfer.]] transfer. They are likely merged with the copied record of ''themselves.'' (No reason in having two.)



** The Main Character [[spoiler: ending the Grail War simply removes the back door; the original function still exists.]]

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** The Main Character [[spoiler: ending the Grail War simply removes the back door; the original function still exists.]]
exists.



Much like how only another Servant can summon a fictional Servant; an [[spoiler: NPC]] can summon the Divine as their Servants because they share a quality with them; that of [[spoiler: not being real.]] Note; this is a funny condition in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} that has nothing to do with not existing. (Example: The Demons in LightNovel/DDD).
* Which is why [[spoiler: the Main Character and earlier Twice Pieceman can have an aspect of Amaterasu for their Servant; and then later Twice has Vajra/Savior/Buddha? as one.]]

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Much like how only another Servant can summon a fictional Servant; an [[spoiler: NPC]] NPC can summon the Divine as their Servants because they share a quality with them; that of [[spoiler: not being real.]] real. Note; this is a funny condition in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}} that has nothing to do with not existing. (Example: The Demons in LightNovel/DDD).
* Which is why [[spoiler: the Main Character and earlier Twice Pieceman can have an aspect of Amaterasu for their Servant; and then later Twice has Vajra/Savior/Buddha? as one.]]



* Then what's the deal with the [[spoiler: 8 year old]] Shinji that you fight? Why does he have that name?

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* Then what's the deal with the [[spoiler: 8 year old]] old Shinji that you fight? Why does he have that name?



!!''CCC''

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!!''CCC''
!!''Fate/EXTRA CCC''



...because if [[spoiler: [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Shiki Ryougi]] and Arcueid have cameos in Fate/EXTRA]], this makes sense. Also, Shiki might say he's looking for [[spoiler: Arcueid]] as an inverse of what happened in Fate/EXTRA.

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...because if [[spoiler: [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Shiki Ryougi]] and Arcueid have cameos in Fate/EXTRA]], Fate/EXTRA, this makes sense. Also, Shiki might say he's looking for [[spoiler: Arcueid]] Arcueid as an inverse of what happened in Fate/EXTRA.



Jossed; Saber Bride is still Saber, while the Strange Tail Girl (Lancer of this game) is [[spoiler:Elizabeth Bathory]].

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Jossed; Saber Bride is still Saber, while the Strange Tail Girl (Lancer of this game) is [[spoiler:Elizabeth Bathory]].
Elizabeth Bathory.
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[[WMG: Moon Cell is "Film/TheMatrix" for everyone on Earth.]]

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[[WMG: Moon Cell is "Film/TheMatrix" "Franchise/TheMatrix" for everyone on Earth.]]

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