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[[WMG: Citra kills Jason in the bad ending because Jason will eventually become as insane as Vaas.]]
The main theme of the game is Jason slowly going off his rocker, and this is made all the clearer during the boss battle with Vaas, showing the two as almost interchangable. After having killed Hoyt and liberated the island from the pirates, Citra kills Jason after conceiving a child so that the rakyat will still have leadership in the future, but she fears that Jason will swiftly get bored in the island's newfound peace and take to killing indescriminately, eventually becoming worse than Vaas.
The main theme of the game is Jason slowly going off his rocker, and this is made all the clearer during the boss battle with Vaas, showing the two as almost interchangable. After having killed Hoyt and liberated the island from the pirates, Citra kills Jason after conceiving a child so that the rakyat will still have leadership in the future, but she fears that Jason will swiftly get bored in the island's newfound peace and take to killing indescriminately, eventually becoming worse than Vaas.
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* And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW 3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW 2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
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* And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW 3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, 3, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW 2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
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* This is how I read the scene actually happening, drug trip aside. Vaas very clearly stabs you, starting the encounter. After that Vaas leaves, rightfully thinking he's killed you, <i> again </i>. But you're still alive, and get up, stab wound still there and bleeding quite heavily. The Vaas clones you have to blow through to get to Vaas (or sprint past, depending on how you ended that encounter) are actually just those suicide charger machete wielding enemies. So in the real world Jason is stumbling after Vaas deeper into Vaas's hideout, bloody chinese knife in one hand and salvaged SMG in the other blasting through the surviving pirates who are trying to kill him. You eventually reach Vaas, and the encounter happens where you kill him. When you both fall to the ground and he looks at you it's just blood loss kicking in. Some of the Rakyat tasked with being back-up (who of course hang back until everythings said and done because pride and honor and other tribal macho nonsense) find you and manage to stitch you back together enough to haul back to Citra, who has plenty of herbal medicines to heal you in time to wake up.
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* After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. [s]Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.[/s] Forget that, Possibly Vaas. Interpret it as you will.
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* After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.
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* After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. Looking [s]Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.[/s] Forget that, Possibly Vaas. Interpret it as you will.
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1. After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.
2. The obvious is the scenes of Jason/Vaas/Citra swapping out with each other, indicating that they are quite the same thing, that is, a monster.
3. The point where Vaas dares Jason to kill him with is gun. This is obviously just an image of Vaas talking to him, because Jason kills him with the gun. "The Path" Jason walks requires him to kill with a knife by Rakyat tradition, thus this is why Jason suddenly finds himself back at the start and killing images of Vaas.
4. When the Player kills images of Vaas he is re-enacting Vaas' "Definition of Insanity." This one is obvious so I'll talk no further about it
5. Finally, the point where Jason kills Vaas with the knife, thus honoring Rakyat tradition. However, Vaas' eye stare could be interpreted as a sign that he is not dead.
2. The obvious is the scenes of Jason/Vaas/Citra swapping out with each other, indicating that they are quite the same thing, that is, a monster.
3. The point where Vaas dares Jason to kill him with is gun. This is obviously just an image of Vaas talking to him, because Jason kills him with the gun. "The Path" Jason walks requires him to kill with a knife by Rakyat tradition, thus this is why Jason suddenly finds himself back at the start and killing images of Vaas.
4. When the Player kills images of Vaas he is re-enacting Vaas' "Definition of Insanity." This one is obvious so I'll talk no further about it
5. Finally, the point where Jason kills Vaas with the knife, thus honoring Rakyat tradition. However, Vaas' eye stare could be interpreted as a sign that he is not dead.
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*The point where Vaas dares Jason to kill him with is gun. This is obviously just an image of Vaas talking to him, because Jason kills him with the gun. "The Path" Jason walks requires him to kill with a knife by Rakyat tradition, thus this is why Jason suddenly finds himself back at the start and killing images of Vaas.
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[[WMG: Reading into Jason's trip during fighting Vass.]]
I really support the side that says Vaas is alive, however after watching the scene over and over I've come up with ideas and theories as to what happened during the hallucination.
1. After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.
2. The obvious is the scenes of Jason/Vaas/Citra swapping out with each other, indicating that they are quite the same thing, that is, a monster.
3. The point where Vaas dares Jason to kill him with is gun. This is obviously just an image of Vaas talking to him, because Jason kills him with the gun. "The Path" Jason walks requires him to kill with a knife by Rakyat tradition, thus this is why Jason suddenly finds himself back at the start and killing images of Vaas.
4. When the Player kills images of Vaas he is re-enacting Vaas' "Definition of Insanity." This one is obvious so I'll talk no further about it
5. Finally, the point where Jason kills Vaas with the knife, thus honoring Rakyat tradition. However, Vaas' eye stare could be interpreted as a sign that he is not dead.
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I really support the side that says Vaas is alive, however after watching the scene over and over I've come up with ideas and theories as to what happened during the hallucination.
1. After Jason is stabbed with the mystical dagger, he pulls it out and collapses on the floor. Looking hard enough, it seems that the person walking away as he falls is Jason himself. This would indicate that his body is doing the work now while Jason is trapped in his own mind, unable to control himself.
2. The obvious is the scenes of Jason/Vaas/Citra swapping out with each other, indicating that they are quite the same thing, that is, a monster.
3. The point where Vaas dares Jason to kill him with is gun. This is obviously just an image of Vaas talking to him, because Jason kills him with the gun. "The Path" Jason walks requires him to kill with a knife by Rakyat tradition, thus this is why Jason suddenly finds himself back at the start and killing images of Vaas.
4. When the Player kills images of Vaas he is re-enacting Vaas' "Definition of Insanity." This one is obvious so I'll talk no further about it
5. Finally, the point where Jason kills Vaas with the knife, thus honoring Rakyat tradition. However, Vaas' eye stare could be interpreted as a sign that he is not dead.
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This goes with the earlier theories of the tatu being latent abilities rather than magic. When a Rakyat accomplishes something, say, dropping on top of someone above with a machete or staying under water for an extended period, the tatu is filled in. The fact that the tatu viewer has pale markings which the associated skill will fill up shows that each warrior knows what feats they must do to win another merit badge, but must acquire the skill and experience required to accomplish said feat. The short little preview videos used as tutorials are actually the first time Jason does the skill. When Jason "needs more power," he's sort of doing a ritual to be promoted from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout (that's the order, right? Never was in the organization). It just so happens that the ritual requires hallucinatory battles with giants and dry humping from a Rakyat princess.
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This goes with the earlier theories of the tatu being latent abilities rather than magic. When a Rakyat accomplishes something, say, dropping on top of someone above with a machete or staying under water for an extended period, the tatu is filled in. The fact that the tatu viewer has pale markings which the associated skill will fill up shows that each warrior knows what feats they must do to win another merit badge, but must acquire the skill and experience required to accomplish said feat. The short little preview videos used as tutorials are actually the first time Jason does the skill. When Jason "needs more power," he's sort of doing a ritual to be promoted from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout (that's the order, right? Never was in the organization). It just so happens that the ritual requires hallucinatory battles with giants and dry humping from a Rakyat princess.princess.
[[WMG: Buck is Max Payne.]]
Well, They kinda look the same, so why not ?
[[WMG: Buck is Max Payne.]]
Well, They kinda look the same, so why not ?
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Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. The patrol boat also has an equally ominous description.
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Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. The patrol boat also has an equally ominous description.description.
[[WMG: The tatu is more of a Rakyat Merit Badge holder rather than something that bestows powers.]]
This goes with the earlier theories of the tatu being latent abilities rather than magic. When a Rakyat accomplishes something, say, dropping on top of someone above with a machete or staying under water for an extended period, the tatu is filled in. The fact that the tatu viewer has pale markings which the associated skill will fill up shows that each warrior knows what feats they must do to win another merit badge, but must acquire the skill and experience required to accomplish said feat. The short little preview videos used as tutorials are actually the first time Jason does the skill. When Jason "needs more power," he's sort of doing a ritual to be promoted from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout (that's the order, right? Never was in the organization). It just so happens that the ritual requires hallucinatory battles with giants and dry humping from a Rakyat princess.
[[WMG: The tatu is more of a Rakyat Merit Badge holder rather than something that bestows powers.]]
This goes with the earlier theories of the tatu being latent abilities rather than magic. When a Rakyat accomplishes something, say, dropping on top of someone above with a machete or staying under water for an extended period, the tatu is filled in. The fact that the tatu viewer has pale markings which the associated skill will fill up shows that each warrior knows what feats they must do to win another merit badge, but must acquire the skill and experience required to accomplish said feat. The short little preview videos used as tutorials are actually the first time Jason does the skill. When Jason "needs more power," he's sort of doing a ritual to be promoted from Cub Scout to Eagle Scout (that's the order, right? Never was in the organization). It just so happens that the ritual requires hallucinatory battles with giants and dry humping from a Rakyat princess.
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Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. I don't know if this is the only handbook entry like this, but yeah.
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Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. I don't know if this is the only handbook entry like this, but yeah.The patrol boat also has an equally ominous description.
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The Rakyat place a large amount of honor on their knife. Warriors kill the major enemies of the tribe with their knives, they survive in the jungle on the strength of their knives. Both Vaas and Jason are Rakyat, Vaas by birth and Jason more honorary. This is why Vaas doesn't take Jason's knife whenever he has him in his clutches. Vaas also considers Jason Rakyat, since he bears the tatau of the tribe's warriors. Vaas also repeatedly calls him "hermano", "brother", just as the other warriors sometimes address Jason. Despite being Jason's mortal enemy, Vaas, a Rakyat by birth, refuses to break tribal taboo by taking another warrior's knife, thus leaving Jason with just the tool he needs to free his friends, and take down Vaas' pirate operation.
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The Rakyat place a large amount of honor on their knife. Warriors kill the major enemies of the tribe with their knives, they survive in the jungle on the strength of their knives. Both Vaas and Jason are Rakyat, Vaas by birth and Jason more honorary. This is why Vaas doesn't take Jason's knife whenever he has him in his clutches. Vaas also considers Jason Rakyat, since he bears the tatau of the tribe's warriors. Vaas also repeatedly calls him "hermano", "brother", just as the other warriors sometimes address Jason. Despite being Jason's mortal enemy, Vaas, a Rakyat by birth, refuses to break tribal taboo by taking another warrior's knife, thus leaving Jason with just the tool he needs to free his friends, and take down Vaas' pirate operation.operation.
[[WMG: Willis' teams going throughout the island died and that is why he refuses to leave Badtown.]]
Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. I don't know if this is the only handbook entry like this, but yeah.
[[WMG: Willis' teams going throughout the island died and that is why he refuses to leave Badtown.]]
Go and read Sam Becker's file in the handbook. "I sent them out. Days and weeks went by. No one returned. They're gone. The jungle took them." This, compounded with the fact that you've never seen any CIA teams ever, despite always being out and exploring the island, and the fact that when Willis escapes it's him and him alone in the plane. Surely if he had teams out gathering information he would have a bigger plane? He's just another lunatic who lives on the island, maybe he was CIA in the past by now he's lost connection to the outside world. I don't know if this is the only handbook entry like this, but yeah.
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* Indeed, it isn't so much as Jason just plain hallucinating Vaas' death, as it is Vaas DELIBERATELY causing Jason to hallucinate his death. But why would the LaughablyEvil, AxCrazy Pirate Leader decide to FakeTheDead when Jason was looking for a final showdown? Because Vaas finally took his own advice: Insanity IS doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. In a case of FridgeBrilliance, this applied to both Jason and Vaas equally, as they kept trying to kill each other SpyVsSpy style, kept failing to put the other in the ground, and kept expecting that they'd get a different result if they kept trying to kill each other. Vaas finally realized the only way to break the cycle was if one of them died, [[HypocriticalHumor but since he isn't crazy enough to willingly die]], he plugged Jason with some hard drugs, [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere and got the hell off the Rook Islands]]. The reason [[CainAndAbel Citra]] and [[BiggerBad Volker]] say he's dead is because they only have Jason's drugged-up story to go on, and since Vaas [[NeverFoundTheBody vanished without a trace]], they assumed [[DeathSeeker he finally got killed by the one man as crazy as he was]].
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** You're looking for the Headscratchers page.
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Why a hallucination? Well, if the theme of the story is supposed to be a critique on modern FPS shooters and the tropes they employ, then perhaps Jason was making up all of this stuff in his head to make himself the "perfect" action-adventure hero.
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Why a hallucination? Well, if the theme of the story is supposed to be a critique on modern FPS shooters and the tropes they employ, then perhaps Jason was making up all of this stuff in his head to make himself the "perfect" action-adventure hero.hero.
[[WMG: Taking another warrior's knife is an extreme taboo among the Rakyat.]]
The Rakyat place a large amount of honor on their knife. Warriors kill the major enemies of the tribe with their knives, they survive in the jungle on the strength of their knives. Both Vaas and Jason are Rakyat, Vaas by birth and Jason more honorary. This is why Vaas doesn't take Jason's knife whenever he has him in his clutches. Vaas also considers Jason Rakyat, since he bears the tatau of the tribe's warriors. Vaas also repeatedly calls him "hermano", "brother", just as the other warriors sometimes address Jason. Despite being Jason's mortal enemy, Vaas, a Rakyat by birth, refuses to break tribal taboo by taking another warrior's knife, thus leaving Jason with just the tool he needs to free his friends, and take down Vaas' pirate operation.
[[WMG: Taking another warrior's knife is an extreme taboo among the Rakyat.]]
The Rakyat place a large amount of honor on their knife. Warriors kill the major enemies of the tribe with their knives, they survive in the jungle on the strength of their knives. Both Vaas and Jason are Rakyat, Vaas by birth and Jason more honorary. This is why Vaas doesn't take Jason's knife whenever he has him in his clutches. Vaas also considers Jason Rakyat, since he bears the tatau of the tribe's warriors. Vaas also repeatedly calls him "hermano", "brother", just as the other warriors sometimes address Jason. Despite being Jason's mortal enemy, Vaas, a Rakyat by birth, refuses to break tribal taboo by taking another warrior's knife, thus leaving Jason with just the tool he needs to free his friends, and take down Vaas' pirate operation.
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* Jossed, as it turns out midway into the game that Willis is the one writing your handbook, as his entry simply says: "That's classified. You didn't think it would be this easy, did you?"
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* Jason's tattoo (or tatau) doesn't actually give him any extraordinary "powers" per se, rather they give him feats that, while difficult for any normal human being, are things entirely in the realm of a person learning (Faster swimming, learning how to kill from different angles, increased stamina,
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* Jason's tattoo (or tatau) doesn't actually give him any extraordinary "powers" per se, rather they give him feats that, while difficult for any normal human being, are things entirely in the realm of a person learning (Faster swimming, learning how to kill from different angles, increased stamina,stamina, perfecting weapon use, even cooking a grenade). Granted it would be hard for someone to train all those skills to peak condition in a few days, but it still isn't anything that somebody couldn't learn with or without a magic tattoo.
* Jason has at least 2 encounters (can't remember if there's any more) with people that are implied to be non-existent. The most obvious being the side-quest with the crashed plane where you investigate the remains, and a person taking up residence in the broken hull claims [[spoiler:there is no old woman who lives in that village, and in fact she was killed by the plane when it first crashed years ago]]. The second is [[spoiler:Willis]], who Dennis, someone that seems to know most of the island, claims that he's never heard of in his life. Could be subverted by the fact that [[spoiler:Willis pilots a plane that lands Jason on the second island]], but it's interesting that the developers threw in the plot point of Dennis not knowing he exists without taking it anywhere.
* Finally, Jason escapes certain death through extremely slim odds multiple times. First, [[spoiler:Grant is killed, and Vaas opts to let Jason run away instead of killing him too]]. Second, [[spoiler:Vaas traps Jason inside a burning hotel, which he manages to escape]]. Third, [[spoiler:Vaas ties Jason to cement and kicks him down into a pool of water about 60 meters down, with Jason simply breaking free of the rope]]. To top it off, [[spoiler:even Vaas notices this, and just shoots Jason in the chest, with Jason surviving by the bullet hitting a lighter that Vaas had put in there earlier]].
Why a hallucination? Well, if the theme of the story is supposed to be a critique on modern FPS shooters and the tropes they employ, then perhaps Jason was making up all of this stuff in his head to make himself the "perfect" action-adventure hero.
* Jason has at least 2 encounters (can't remember if there's any more) with people that are implied to be non-existent. The most obvious being the side-quest with the crashed plane where you investigate the remains, and a person taking up residence in the broken hull claims [[spoiler:there is no old woman who lives in that village, and in fact she was killed by the plane when it first crashed years ago]]. The second is [[spoiler:Willis]], who Dennis, someone that seems to know most of the island, claims that he's never heard of in his life. Could be subverted by the fact that [[spoiler:Willis pilots a plane that lands Jason on the second island]], but it's interesting that the developers threw in the plot point of Dennis not knowing he exists without taking it anywhere.
* Finally, Jason escapes certain death through extremely slim odds multiple times. First, [[spoiler:Grant is killed, and Vaas opts to let Jason run away instead of killing him too]]. Second, [[spoiler:Vaas traps Jason inside a burning hotel, which he manages to escape]]. Third, [[spoiler:Vaas ties Jason to cement and kicks him down into a pool of water about 60 meters down, with Jason simply breaking free of the rope]]. To top it off, [[spoiler:even Vaas notices this, and just shoots Jason in the chest, with Jason surviving by the bullet hitting a lighter that Vaas had put in there earlier]].
Why a hallucination? Well, if the theme of the story is supposed to be a critique on modern FPS shooters and the tropes they employ, then perhaps Jason was making up all of this stuff in his head to make himself the "perfect" action-adventure hero.
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* Citra must have given it to him. Why?
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[[WMG: Jason goes insane after his first kill, and the rest of the game is his hallucination]]
A lot of people complained about the fact that the story is supposed to show Jason's decent into madness, yet after completing the first mission you can take over as many outposts as you want, killing in theory hundreds, then go back into the main quest where Jason will become squeamish again. Well, maybe that's because after Jason's first kill he's already descended into madness, and the rest of the game is a hallucination interspersed with small bits of reality. Some examples;
* The most obvious, the boss fights, and the fact that when [[spoiler:you kill Buck, Vaas, and Hoyt]], the game changes into a surreal dance floor knife fight.
Now that the elephant in the room is out of the way, there are a few subtle hints that could allude to this;
* When Jason is retrieving the compass for [[spoiler:Buck]], it starts to glow with magic, which Jason comments on. However, [[spoiler:Buck]] doesn't make any mention of it, and in fact he doesn't even seem to notice that it's happening.
* Jason's tattoo (or tatau) doesn't actually give him any extraordinary "powers" per se, rather they give him feats that, while difficult for any normal human being, are things entirely in the realm of a person learning (Faster swimming, learning how to kill from different angles, increased stamina,
[[WMG: Jason goes insane after his first kill, and the rest of the game is his hallucination]]
A lot of people complained about the fact that the story is supposed to show Jason's decent into madness, yet after completing the first mission you can take over as many outposts as you want, killing in theory hundreds, then go back into the main quest where Jason will become squeamish again. Well, maybe that's because after Jason's first kill he's already descended into madness, and the rest of the game is a hallucination interspersed with small bits of reality. Some examples;
* The most obvious, the boss fights, and the fact that when [[spoiler:you kill Buck, Vaas, and Hoyt]], the game changes into a surreal dance floor knife fight.
Now that the elephant in the room is out of the way, there are a few subtle hints that could allude to this;
* When Jason is retrieving the compass for [[spoiler:Buck]], it starts to glow with magic, which Jason comments on. However, [[spoiler:Buck]] doesn't make any mention of it, and in fact he doesn't even seem to notice that it's happening.
* Jason's tattoo (or tatau) doesn't actually give him any extraordinary "powers" per se, rather they give him feats that, while difficult for any normal human being, are things entirely in the realm of a person learning (Faster swimming, learning how to kill from different angles, increased stamina,
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[[WMG: How did Vaas have the ceremonial knife?]]
* Citra must have given it to him. Why?
[[WMG: How did Vaas have the ceremonial knife?]]
* Citra must have given it to him. Why?
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[[WMG: Shaun Hastings from Asssassin's Creed is the one updating your Handbook.]]
Read it in his voice. Just look at the way all the words are phrased. Clearly he got sick of all this treasure hunting after all that end of the world nonsense.
Read it in his voice. Just look at the way all the words are phrased. Clearly he got sick of all this treasure hunting after all that end of the world nonsense.
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* Another possibility is that the island got to Citra first, and ''her'' madness got to Vaas and drove him crazy, exacerbating the mojo of Rook Island to make him even crazier. Which fits what he says. Vaas' dialogue indicated Citra went nuts first.
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* Another possibility is that the island got to Citra first, and ''her'' madness got to Vaas and drove him crazy, exacerbating the mojo of Rook Island to make him even crazier. Which fits what he says. Vaas' dialogue indicated Citra went nuts first.first.
[[WMG: The inhabitants of Badtown realize they're in a game]]
* They keep talking about how Jason is a puppet, and in fact his every move is determined by the person on the other end of the keyboard.
* They mention people being "balloons full of red ink". The character models bleed when shot but have no internal organs, as there would be no reason to render anything below the skin.
[[WMG: The inhabitants of Badtown realize they're in a game]]
* They keep talking about how Jason is a puppet, and in fact his every move is determined by the person on the other end of the keyboard.
* They mention people being "balloons full of red ink". The character models bleed when shot but have no internal organs, as there would be no reason to render anything below the skin.
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* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
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* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.””
* Another possibility is that the island got to Citra first, and ''her'' madness got to Vaas and drove him crazy, exacerbating the mojo of Rook Island to make him even crazier. Which fits what he says. Vaas' dialogue indicated Citra went nuts first.
* Another possibility is that the island got to Citra first, and ''her'' madness got to Vaas and drove him crazy, exacerbating the mojo of Rook Island to make him even crazier. Which fits what he says. Vaas' dialogue indicated Citra went nuts first.
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[[WMG: Hoyt didn't drive Vaas crazy, Citra did]]
When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about how his sister "forced him to choose" between her and someone else. [[spoiler:Just like she does to Jason later.]]
* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about how his sister "forced him to choose" between her and someone else. [[spoiler:Just like she does to Jason later.]]
* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
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[[WMG: Hoyt didn't drive Vaas crazy, Citra did]]
crazy...]]
[[spoiler:Citra]] did! When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about howhis sister [[spoiler:his sister]] "forced him to choose" between her and someone else. [[spoiler:Just like she does to Jason later.]]
* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
[[spoiler:Citra]] did! When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about how
* "Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
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** according to the lost expeditions DLC, the game is set in the Assassin's Creed universe, and also shares it's pop culture with ours (Jason quotes Star Wars, Kill Bill or Bioshock, for example). Since Jason is your typical 20-yr old immature kid in the beginning, he would have known about MW2 if it existed as a Game, and at least said some random shit to make fun of Huntley.
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** according to the lost expeditions DLC, the game is set in the Assassin's Creed universe, and also shares it's pop culture with ours (Jason quotes Star Wars, Kill Bill or Bioshock, for example). Since Jason is your typical 20-yr old immature kid in the beginning, he would have known about MW2 if it existed as a Game, and at least said some random shit to make fun of Huntley.Huntley.
[[WMG: Hoyt didn't drive Vaas crazy, Citra did]]
When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about how his sister "forced him to choose" between her and someone else. [[spoiler:Just like she does to Jason later.]]
*"Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
[[WMG: Hoyt didn't drive Vaas crazy, Citra did]]
When he captures Jason at Priate's Cove, he starts ranting about how his sister "forced him to choose" between her and someone else. [[spoiler:Just like she does to Jason later.]]
*"Our fucking loved ones, they come and they blindside you every fucking time! So they say to me, they say, ‘Vaas! Who is it going to be? Them or me?! Me or them!?’ Like, you know, like they fucking think I need to make a fucking choice.”
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* A more likely alternative is that Huntley is far more insane than first thought and Modern Warfare only exists in FC3 as a game. Which would imply that it is set in the real world, or one far closer to it than other games within the genre.
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* A more likely alternative is that Huntley is far more insane than first thought and Modern Warfare only exists in FC3 as a game. Which would imply that it is set in the real world, or one far closer to it than other games within the genre.genre.
**according to the lost expeditions DLC, the game is set in the Assassin's Creed universe, and also shares it's pop culture with ours (Jason quotes Star Wars, Kill Bill or Bioshock, for example). Since Jason is your typical 20-yr old immature kid in the beginning, he would have known about MW2 if it existed as a Game, and at least said some random shit to make fun of Huntley.
**according to the lost expeditions DLC, the game is set in the Assassin's Creed universe, and also shares it's pop culture with ours (Jason quotes Star Wars, Kill Bill or Bioshock, for example). Since Jason is your typical 20-yr old immature kid in the beginning, he would have known about MW2 if it existed as a Game, and at least said some random shit to make fun of Huntley.
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* And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW 3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW 2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
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* And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW 3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW 2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " ." .
*A more likely alternative is that Huntley is far more insane than first thought and Modern Warfare only exists in FC3 as a game. Which would imply that it is set in the real world, or one far closer to it than other games within the genre.
*A more likely alternative is that Huntley is far more insane than first thought and Modern Warfare only exists in FC3 as a game. Which would imply that it is set in the real world, or one far closer to it than other games within the genre.
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* And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
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Agent Huntley claims that he is going to be going to Russia to participate in a mission for a "Task Force 141", which as fans of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 will know is an international Special Forces team composed of soldiers from America, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Given the year Far Cry 3 takes place, which is hinted at to be either 2011 or 2012, the mission in question is most certainly the goal of assassinating Vladmir Makarov a Russian terrorist, a mission dubbed "Operation Kingfish" that took place in 2013.
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Agent Huntley claims that he is going to be going to Russia to participate in a mission for a "Task Force 141", which as fans of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 will know is an international Special Forces team composed of soldiers from America, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Given the year Far Cry 3 takes place, which is hinted at to be either 2011 or 2012, the mission in question is most certainly the goal of assassinating Vladmir Makarov a Russian terrorist, a mission dubbed "Operation Kingfish" that took place in 2013.2013.
*And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
*And Vaas actually IS Soap from the MW games, who somehow faked his own death in MW3 because he felt the series turning into a soulless cash-cow franchise, and didn't want to be forced to return in the fourth one, so he ran off to rook island and hired the Brazilian militias from MW2 for his operation. That's why he knows a lot about "doing the exact, same fucking thing, over and over and over again" and his last action after [[spoiler:Jason stabs him during the boss battle, just like Shepherd did in 2]] is to look straight at the player, as if to say : "You shittin' me ? AGAIN ? " .
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Keith states that he saw Riley get shot right after admitting that he couldn't handle being on the island for any longer and hearing Jason state that they would leave as soon as he found his brother. He might have said this for no other reason than to try to hurry things up, not wanting to wait for Riley to be found. This would match with his character as indicated in the handbook, as he seems to be a compulsive liar.
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Keith states that he saw Riley get shot right after admitting that he couldn't handle being on the island for any longer and hearing Jason state that they would leave as soon as he found his brother. He might have said this for no other reason than to try to hurry things up, not wanting to wait for Riley to be found. This would match with his character as indicated in the handbook, as he seems to be a compulsive liar.liar.
[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as Modern Warfare]]
Agent Huntley claims that he is going to be going to Russia to participate in a mission for a "Task Force 141", which as fans of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 will know is an international Special Forces team composed of soldiers from America, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Given the year Far Cry 3 takes place, which is hinted at to be either 2011 or 2012, the mission in question is most certainly the goal of assassinating Vladmir Makarov a Russian terrorist, a mission dubbed "Operation Kingfish" that took place in 2013.
[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as Modern Warfare]]
Agent Huntley claims that he is going to be going to Russia to participate in a mission for a "Task Force 141", which as fans of Modern Warfare 2 and 3 will know is an international Special Forces team composed of soldiers from America, Canada, and the United Kingdom. Given the year Far Cry 3 takes place, which is hinted at to be either 2011 or 2012, the mission in question is most certainly the goal of assassinating Vladmir Makarov a Russian terrorist, a mission dubbed "Operation Kingfish" that took place in 2013.
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The entirety of the fight sequence with Vaas seems far too out there to have occurred in any real capacity. It begins with Vaas impaling a glowing ritual knife into Jason's torso, which is right off the bat pretty much impossible for both the knife to have glowed and Jason to have survived. Then we have Jason shooting a bunch of Vaas phantoms that the real Vaas surely would have noticed and commented on. Even when you finally get to what appears to be the only real part of the hallucination and impale Vaas with the knife that you just pulled out of your torso, Vaas' dead body awakens and looks Jason square in the eyes as he collapses from exhaustion. That is some trippy shit.
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The entirety of the fight sequence with Vaas seems far too out there to have occurred in any real capacity. It begins with Vaas impaling a glowing ritual knife into Jason's torso, which is right off the bat pretty much impossible for both the knife to have glowed and Jason to have survived. Then we have Jason shooting a bunch of Vaas phantoms that the real Vaas surely would have noticed and commented on. Even when you finally get to what appears to be the only real part of the hallucination and impale Vaas with the knife that you just pulled out of your torso, Vaas' dead body awakens and looks Jason square in the eyes as he collapses from exhaustion. That is some trippy shit.shit.
[[WMG: Keith lied about Riley.]]
Keith states that he saw Riley get shot right after admitting that he couldn't handle being on the island for any longer and hearing Jason state that they would leave as soon as he found his brother. He might have said this for no other reason than to try to hurry things up, not wanting to wait for Riley to be found. This would match with his character as indicated in the handbook, as he seems to be a compulsive liar.
[[WMG: Keith lied about Riley.]]
Keith states that he saw Riley get shot right after admitting that he couldn't handle being on the island for any longer and hearing Jason state that they would leave as soon as he found his brother. He might have said this for no other reason than to try to hurry things up, not wanting to wait for Riley to be found. This would match with his character as indicated in the handbook, as he seems to be a compulsive liar.
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[[WMG: Vaas isn't actually dead.]]
The entirety of the fight sequence with Vaas seems far too out there to have occurred in any real capacity. It begins with Vaas impaling a glowing ritual knife into Jason's torso, which is right off the bat pretty much impossible for both the knife to have glowed and Jason to have survived. Then we have Jason shooting a bunch of Vaas phantoms that the real Vaas surely would have noticed and commented on. Even when you finally get to what appears to be the only real part of the hallucination and impale Vaas with the knife that you just pulled out of your torso, Vaas' dead body awakens and looks Jason square in the eyes as he collapses from exhaustion. That is some trippy shit.
The entirety of the fight sequence with Vaas seems far too out there to have occurred in any real capacity. It begins with Vaas impaling a glowing ritual knife into Jason's torso, which is right off the bat pretty much impossible for both the knife to have glowed and Jason to have survived. Then we have Jason shooting a bunch of Vaas phantoms that the real Vaas surely would have noticed and commented on. Even when you finally get to what appears to be the only real part of the hallucination and impale Vaas with the knife that you just pulled out of your torso, Vaas' dead body awakens and looks Jason square in the eyes as he collapses from exhaustion. That is some trippy shit.
