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* This would make sense, considering that Apple's physical characteristivs are much more similar to that of the *other* Snow White.

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I don't have much evidence but we never see Alistairs father nor Maddies mother, plus in some versions of the story Alice and the Hatter are shown to be quite close. And Alistair is in Wonderland when we first see him, how can that happen if Alice left the place? It seems that she came back and the two had children. The Hatter does treat Alistair nicely, Maddie and Alistair also seem quite close as well.

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I don't have much evidence but we never see Alistairs Alistair's father nor Maddies Maddie's mother, plus in some versions of the story Alice and the Hatter are shown to be quite close. And Alistair is in Wonderland when we first see him, how can that happen if Alice left the place? It seems that she came back and the two had children. The Hatter does treat Alistair nicely, Maddie and Alistair also seem quite close as well.well.

[[WMG: Daring would've questioned destiny at some point]]
He's a good guy underneath all of his ego and bravado, plus he has friends (Hunter/Cerise) and even a sister (Darling) on the Rebel side. If he were to find out why people like Darling, Hunter and Cerise are on the Rebel side (not wanting to be a generic damsel in distress, wanting to have a relationship with someone he loves, and being the living embodiment of rebelling against destiny, respectively), it would possibly make him reconsider destiny, for being so unfair to people he cares about.
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** Adding to this, the Asian fairy tales also have their own school(s). Hence why the children of Son Wukong or Kaguya-hime never showed up.
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[[WMG: The whole franchise is really Film/TheMatrix for kids.]]

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[[WMG: The whole franchise is really Film/TheMatrix Franchise/TheMatrix for kids.]]
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So let's say the Storybook of Legends wasn't shelved, and Cupid would have to follow her destiny. My guess is that she'd be inheriting Eros' role in the story of Eros and Psyche. She would be married to someone who would never see her face, but believing that she is a monster. The story will then lead to Cupid's spouse betraying her trust and attempting to kill her. Thankfully, despite this, the story of Eros and Psyche does end happily, so Cupid will have her Happily Ever After, whether she decided to follow this destiny or not.

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So let's say the Storybook of Legends wasn't shelved, and Cupid would have to follow her destiny. My guess is that she'd be inheriting Eros' role in the story of Eros and Psyche. She would be married to someone who would never see her face, but believing that she is a monster. The story will then lead to Cupid's spouse betraying her trust and attempting to kill her. Thankfully, despite this, the story of Eros and Psyche does end happily, so Cupid will have her Happily Ever After, whether she decided to follow this destiny or not.not.

[[WMG: Maddie Hatter and Alistair Wonderland are siblings]]
I don't have much evidence but we never see Alistairs father nor Maddies mother, plus in some versions of the story Alice and the Hatter are shown to be quite close. And Alistair is in Wonderland when we first see him, how can that happen if Alice left the place? It seems that she came back and the two had children. The Hatter does treat Alistair nicely, Maddie and Alistair also seem quite close as well.
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** Seems to be confirmed by Brooke being able to interact with the world and live in the Mirror Networks. However, they don't seem to represent anything. The reason why Brooke is able to interact with items in the world of Ever After High is either because she has the powers of an editor or it's ''because'' of the fact that she has no body that she's able to interact with the world of Ever After High.
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* Maybe not a sister, but a different daughter of an Evil Queen. Considering that there are multiple Charming's and each generation has its own set of fairy tale characters repeating the cycle, there's no real reason to assume why there can't be more than one "Raven Queen".
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Beyond their personalities, Raven and Dexter have much more chemistry than Apple and Daring. If Raven is Snow White, it allows her and her Prince Charming to build a meaningful relationship prior to being poisoned. Considering how Apple responded to Daring’s flirting on the first day of school, it’s incredibly hard to imagine them sharing True Love’s Kiss. Dexter doesn’t think he has a legacy yet because he thinks it’s his brother’s story. (As an aside, assuming that Dexter is destined to be Snow White’s Prince Charming, I could see Daring inadvertently angering an old witch and being cursed as the Beast, since the other WMGs have suggested that they need a new one.) In fact, everyone thinks it’s Apple and Daring’s story, which is why Briar saw Apple in the coffin when they were in the Storybook. Milton Grimm isn’t obsessed with the stories, he’s obsessed with the caste system that the stories promote and he doesn’t want any of the four of them to find out the truth because it would cast everyone’s roles into doubt. Anyone could be a Royal and anyone could be a Villain.

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Beyond their personalities, Raven and Dexter have much more chemistry than Apple and Daring. If Raven is Snow White, it allows her and her Prince Charming to build a meaningful relationship prior to being poisoned. Considering how Apple responded to Daring’s flirting on the first day of school, it’s incredibly hard to imagine them sharing True Love’s Kiss. Dexter doesn’t think he has a legacy yet because he thinks it’s his brother’s story. (As an aside, assuming that Dexter is destined to be Snow White’s Prince Charming, I could see Daring inadvertently angering an old witch and being cursed as the Beast, since the other WMGs [=WMGs=] have suggested that they need a new one.) In fact, everyone thinks it’s Apple and Daring’s story, which is why Briar saw Apple in the coffin when they were in the Storybook. Milton Grimm isn’t obsessed with the stories, he’s obsessed with the caste system that the stories promote and he doesn’t want any of the four of them to find out the truth because it would cast everyone’s roles into doubt. Anyone could be a Royal and anyone could be a Villain.
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[[WMG: The daughter of Literature/TheSnowQueen will appear, and she will be an {{Expy}} of [[Disney/{{Frozen}} Elsa]].]]

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[[WMG: The daughter of Literature/TheSnowQueen will appear, and she will be an {{Expy}} of [[Disney/{{Frozen}} [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Elsa]].]]
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Mattel is clearly aware of their own fandoms, constantly referencing them on official accounts, and they're in charge of Franchise/DisneyPrincess merchandise. They ''must'' be aware of the This Could Have Been Disney/{{Frozen}} project, which has been all over the Internet since before Anna's design was released. A RaceLift as a nod to this (and to give the franchise more diversity) wouldn't be out of the question.

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Mattel is clearly aware of their own fandoms, constantly referencing them on official accounts, and they're in charge of Franchise/DisneyPrincess merchandise. They ''must'' be aware of the This Could Have Been Disney/{{Frozen}} ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'' project, which has been all over the Internet since before Anna's design was released. A RaceLift as a nod to this (and to give the franchise more diversity) wouldn't be out of the question.
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* Unlikely. The idea of The Wolf and Little Red Riding Hood falling in love has been around for a very long time in many different media, and since the earliest versions are often interpreted as an allegory for sex and the potential 'dangers' surrounding it, versions with sexual tension/one sided sexual or romantic interest/sexual and romantic overtones are at this point practically cliche.
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* Literal Narrators. They're the actual, disembodied voices of text, just like the voice of thought that reads the book inside your head. Lady Narrator represents the stories where a woman is the lead, and Sir Narrator represents the stories where a male is the lead. They also represent First and Third person narratives with Sir Narrator representing the first-person Rebels who tradition would call self-centred for selfishly refusing to sign the Storybook of Legends and potentially dooming the entire story/stories they hail from (or even endangering the '''world'''), and Lady Narrator representing the third-person Royals who want to follow their stories so they and nearly everyone else in the kingdom will benefit in the end, in a "[[StarTrek needs-of-the-many-outweigh-the-needs-of-the-few]]-[[Theatre/{{Starship}} or-the-one]]"/"end-justifies-the-means" kinda way. First-person representing the self-centred-ness due to being told from one POV where Third is told in no general POV and so is selfless. The Narrators literally represent narration itself, just like how everyone in-universe represents a story or in the case of Milton and Giles, authors.

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* Literal Narrators. They're the actual, disembodied voices of text, just like the voice of thought that reads the book inside your head. Lady Narrator represents the stories where a woman is the lead, and Sir Narrator represents the stories where a male is the lead. They also represent First and Third person narratives with Sir Narrator representing the first-person Rebels who tradition would call self-centred for selfishly refusing to sign the Storybook of Legends and potentially dooming the entire story/stories they hail from (or even endangering the '''world'''), and Lady Narrator representing the third-person Royals who want to follow their stories so they and nearly everyone else in the kingdom will benefit in the end, in a "[[StarTrek "[[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan needs-of-the-many-outweigh-the-needs-of-the-few]]-[[Theatre/{{Starship}} or-the-one]]"/"end-justifies-the-means" kinda way. First-person representing the self-centred-ness due to being told from one POV where Third is told in no general POV and so is selfless. The Narrators literally represent narration itself, just like how everyone in-universe represents a story or in the case of Milton and Giles, authors.

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Specifically, the person who signs their name will be possessed by the spirit of the original character whom they are agreeing to become. This is what compels them to repeat the stories even if they initially don’t want to, and probably why there is no mention of the identities of the previous generation: sharing a body is messing with their memories.
Of course, after the event of Way Too Wonderland this means [[spoiler:Raven now has The Evil Queen that started it all [[OhCrap somewhere inside her]]…]]

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Specifically, the person who signs their name will be possessed by the spirit of the original character whom they are agreeing to become. This is what compels them to repeat the stories even if they initially don’t want to, and probably why there is no mention of the identities of the previous generation: sharing a body is messing with their memories.
memories. Of course, after the event of Way Too Wonderland this means [[spoiler:Raven now has The Evil Queen that started it all [[OhCrap somewhere inside her]]…]]


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[[WMG: The Storybook of Legends being shelved results in students following their destinies.]]
This doesn't necessarily mean becoming their parents. Apple's destiny was to be poisoned by the Evil Queen and to be awoken by True Love's Kiss (aka Darling). However, Raven isn't the one who poisoned her. Perhaps her destiny all along was to stop her mother from taking over once again.
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Instead, Giles and Milton Grimm brought her to Ever After High in order to keep a close eye on her so that she won't do anything dangerous like freeing the Evil Queen sometime in the future. Courtly also isn't reformed; she's still pretty pissed off at everyone involved in her defeat.

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Instead, Giles and Milton Grimm brought her to Ever After High in order to keep a close eye on her so that she won't do anything dangerous like freeing the Evil Queen sometime in the future. Courtly also isn't reformed; she's still pretty pissed off at everyone involved in her defeat.defeat.

[[WMG: C.A. Cupid's Story]]
So let's say the Storybook of Legends wasn't shelved, and Cupid would have to follow her destiny. My guess is that she'd be inheriting Eros' role in the story of Eros and Psyche. She would be married to someone who would never see her face, but believing that she is a monster. The story will then lead to Cupid's spouse betraying her trust and attempting to kill her. Thankfully, despite this, the story of Eros and Psyche does end happily, so Cupid will have her Happily Ever After, whether she decided to follow this destiny or not.
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Ever After High is in the Europe-like part of the fairy-tale world; in the universe's equivalent of the Middle East is the [[IncrediblyLamePun Arabian Night School]], where the principal is Scheherezade. God willing they'll eventually have an exchange student program with Ever After High so we can see these Middle Eastern fairy tales.

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Ever After High is in the Europe-like part of the fairy-tale world; in the universe's equivalent of the Middle East is the [[IncrediblyLamePun Arabian Night School]], where the principal is Scheherezade. God willing they'll eventually have an exchange student program with Ever After High so we can see these Middle Eastern fairy tales.tales.

[[WMG: Courtly ''wasn[='=]t'' EasilyForgiven at the end of ''Way Too Wonderland''...]]
Instead, Giles and Milton Grimm brought her to Ever After High in order to keep a close eye on her so that she won't do anything dangerous like freeing the Evil Queen sometime in the future. Courtly also isn't reformed; she's still pretty pissed off at everyone involved in her defeat.
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[[WMG:Ever After will do a crossover with Franchise/MonsterHigh for a Halloween Special]]

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[[WMG:Ever After will do a crossover with Franchise/MonsterHigh Toys/MonsterHigh for a Halloween Special]]
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* That her mother is Red and her father is not the Wolf, but that Red was scratched or bitten and became a werewolf, and this was passed on to Cerise (as [[Franchise/MonsterHigh we all know lycanthropy is genetic]]).

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* That her mother is Red and her father is not the Wolf, but that Red was scratched or bitten and became a werewolf, and this was passed on to Cerise (as [[Franchise/MonsterHigh [[Toys/MonsterHigh we all know lycanthropy is genetic]]).

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* A possible take is that Duchess is the daughter of Odette and Rothbart (as some versions of the ballet have Rothbart turning Odette into a swan when she refuses his love) OR as another troper theorized above, she may be have a twin sister who is the *actual* daughter of Odette. Another take is that both (the future!Odile and future!Odette) are both daughters of Odile (since Odette couldn't have children since so many versions of the ballet end up with her doomed to be a swan or dead.

[[WMG: Duchess can CHOOSE to be either Odette or Odile]]
Following the theory above, no matter who her mother actually is (Odette or Odile) there is the chance that Duchess can choose which role she will take for some reason (as stated above, she has aspects of BOTH the white and the black swan), however, she doesn't want to be either due to their endings. The most popular versions of the ballet end this way: 1) Realizing she is cursed to be a swan forever, losing not only freedom but love, Odette throws herself into the lake and dies, while the prince mourns her forever, never taking a wife (meaning, Odile ends up alone. In the ballets, Siegfried realizes who Odile actually is, so he knows she is not Odette). 2) Odette AND Siegfried kill themselves, being reunited in death. 3) Odette, as a swan, is taken by Rothbart and flies away. Siegfried tries to follow, but Rothbart calls upon a storm and Siegfried dies, to Odette despair. Meaning, in ANY role Duchess chooses to take, black or white swan, she most probably ends up alone and sorrowful.
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* None of the above. They are really reading the story as it happens as evidenced by the younger one being able to change the events as she sees fit, and none of them are characters in the book, and that's why they can't [[spoiler: (''wont'')]] change anything in the story, because if they have too much of an impact they become characters on the pages and probably lose their immortality and get transported to the book they're reading. As for their identities, they're not anybody from the story, so it's not possible to guess who they are, however the younger one was given a name: Brooke Page, indicating their family name is Page. According to a wiki she goes to Ever After High but we've never seen her at school so that might be an embellished fact. Also Holly O'Hair may go into writting and since she's a Royal and since the female narrator roots for Royals it's possible she becomes Mrs Page in the future, if they really are characters in the show/book.

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* Partial confirmation. While he did not stumble onto the school, he wasn't a student until he stumbled onto [[spoiler: the book of fairytales]]. Returning it was his reason for going to Ever After High and if he hadn't '' stumbled'' onto [[spoiler: the book]] he wouldn't have had a reason to go to that school and he wouldn't have ended up stuck in there and eventually enrolling I assume. Finding and returning [[spoiler: the book]] had nothing to do with his destiny. And once he did stumble onto it he really did become a NewTransferStudent just not from a normie school with an OnlySaneMan attitude -he ''is'' from wonderland after all, he's more than used to magic and fairytale characters- though he is pretty normal for an 'Ever After High' student and having not been originally from Wonderland doesn't share any of his compatriots' special skills apart from comprehension of riddlish. Kittie, Maddie and Lizzie WERE extremely excited about his arrival though. So roughly 3/7 conditions were met, making it a partial confirmation and not an outright Jossing.
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* In the actual ballet of SwanLake, it's not uncommon to have Odette and Odile played by the same person. (see: BlackSwan)

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* In the actual ballet of SwanLake, ''Theatre/SwanLake'', it's not uncommon to have Odette and Odile played by the same person. (see: BlackSwan)''Film/BlackSwan'')
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** Plus, this is a way more interesting concept than simply laying the blame on evil all time. Red knows what she did was wrong but she did for the right reasons.

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** Plus, this is a way more interesting concept than simply laying the blame on evil all time. Red knows what she did was wrong but she did for the right reasons.reasons.

[[WMG: The reason we haven't seen anyone from Literature/ArabianNights is because that's a whole other school]]
Ever After High is in the Europe-like part of the fairy-tale world; in the universe's equivalent of the Middle East is the [[IncrediblyLamePun Arabian Night School]], where the principal is Scheherezade. God willing they'll eventually have an exchange student program with Ever After High so we can see these Middle Eastern fairy tales.
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* Ginger Breadhouse as the Candy Witch: Ginger wants to be a kind baker, not a predator. It'd be a way to give her a doll with explicitly witchy themes, as well.

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* Ginger Breadhouse as the Candy Witch: Ginger wants to be a kind baker, not a predator. It'd be a way to give her a doll with explicitly witchy themes, as well.well.

[[WMG: The Evil Queen (I'm gonna call her Eva) was the one who hid the real Storybook of Legends, but she wasn't the one who stole it. Little Red Riding Hood was.]]
* In Thronecoming, Giles Grimm states that he doesn't know why the Queen stole the Storybook and when you think about it, she didn't really seem to have a reason to and no explanation has come forward since.
* Red on the other hand, had a very good reason to replace the book with a fake: in order to prevent her and Badwolf's destinies from coming true. No book, no signature, no destiny.
* Eva knew about Red's plan and helped her by creating the fake book and then hiding the real one so that if/when the ruse was discovered, it would be traced back to Eva and not Red.
** And also, Eva and Red were roommates and friends, so how could Red not have known that one of the most powerful objects Ever After was hidden in their doom unless she was involved.
** Plus, this is a way more interesting concept than simply laying the blame on evil all time. Red knows what she did was wrong but she did for the right reasons.
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* Duchess Swan as the Black Swan: As-is, she's undecided, and maybe she doesn't want to be flat-out evil.
* Lizzie Hearts as the Queen of Hearts: Tyrannical version she wants to avoid.

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* Duchess Swan as the Black Swan: Swan/Swan Queen: As-is, she's undecided, and maybe she doesn't want to be flat-out evil.
evil, and she does feel unhappy with the destiny she chooses to follow.
* Lizzie Hearts as the Queen of Hearts: Tyrannical The tyrannical version she wants to avoid.
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Since they change multiple times, and the doll versions are attached by an arrow-shaped neck clip, it's safe to assume that Cupid's wings are purely ornamental accessories to look the part of a cherub. She isn't biologically Eros' daughter, so it makes sense that she'd have to dress up for the part.

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Since they change multiple times, and the doll versions are attached by an arrow-shaped neck clip, it's safe to assume that Cupid's wings are purely ornamental accessories to look the part of a cherub. She isn't biologically Eros' daughter, so it makes sense that she'd have to dress up for the part.part.

[[WMG: Possible SDCC dolls...]]
Since they all follow the trend of the character's personal BadFuture, here are some ideas for the next one.
* Duchess Swan as the Black Swan: As-is, she's undecided, and maybe she doesn't want to be flat-out evil.
* Lizzie Hearts as the Queen of Hearts: Tyrannical version she wants to avoid.
* Ginger Breadhouse as the Candy Witch: Ginger wants to be a kind baker, not a predator. It'd be a way to give her a doll with explicitly witchy themes, as well.
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** Seemingly confirmed by Kitty's ''Way Too Wonderland'' transformation granting her a tail.
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** Jossed. Royally Ever After is marketed as a daydream of Apple's future should she follow her destiny.
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*** Farrah's diary confirms this at the end, with her vowing to take over the job of the Blue Fairy after she poofed from existence.

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*** Farrah's diary confirms this at the end, with her vowing to take over the job of the Blue Fairy after she poofed from existence.existence.

[[WMG: Cupid's wings aren't real.]]
Since they change multiple times, and the doll versions are attached by an arrow-shaped neck clip, it's safe to assume that Cupid's wings are purely ornamental accessories to look the part of a cherub. She isn't biologically Eros' daughter, so it makes sense that she'd have to dress up for the part.
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*** Farrah's diary may have confirmed this one. Apparently her mom took over as the blue fairy after the original refused to follow her destiny and went poof, due to fairies literally being made of pure magic.

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*** Farrah's diary may have confirmed confirms this one. Apparently at the end, with her mom took vowing to take over as the blue fairy job of the Blue Fairy after the original refused to follow her destiny and went poof, due to fairies literally being made of pure magic.she poofed from existence.
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** Seemingly confirmed, as, after the revelation that Daring isn't Apple's prince, he's shaping up to be the next Beast with Rosabella.

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