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Great A'Tuin is the Primordial of [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality Narrative]], who [[GenreSavvy realised that the Exalted were going to win]] the Primordial War and wandered off into the Wyld with a chunk of Creation to play out his stories in peace.

* ...''{{Exalted}}'' [[ShapedLikeItself itself]].

[[WMG: [[{{Slayers}} The Sea of Chaos]] and the Wyld are one and the same.]]

[[WMG: The 100 children at the end of RotSE are the new Sidereals]]

[[WMG: The Ebon Dragon's plan in RotSE is oddly out of character because [[ThanatosGambit he was always supposed to lose.]]]]

* Jossed by ''Dreams of the First Age'' -- he has stats there, and they list him as a Sidereal, specifically a Chosen of Secrets.
** Unless he's using Twisted Words Technique. Were you wearing your tinfoil hat when you read "Dreams of the First Age"?
* Aaaand, Jossed again by ''Scroll of Exalts'', which has his current in-game stats. Essence 10 Sidereal Exalted, Chosen of Jupiter.

* Jossed by ''Glories of the Most High'': the Unconquered Sun was specifically created by the Primordials to embody virtue. (This was deemed a necessity by them as the Ebon Dragon's concept required something to rebel ''against'', as his shadow needed a light to cast it.)
** [[SatanIsGood This Josses it how?]]
*** Traditionally, Lucifer is created by God who embodies good and virtue. Unconquered Sun's creation is the exact opposite - he was created by an entity that embodies evil and malevolence(the Dragon's Shadow AKA Ebon Dragon). So, Lucifer=Unconquered Sun theory only holds water in [[GodIsEvil very specific conditions.]] Also, Ebon Dragon is neither omnipotent, nor omniscient and not even omnipresent. He's also not the only creator nor even the greatest of them. So it would have to be a ''very'' alternate universe indeed.
*** The Ebon Dragon didn't create the Unconquered Sun. He got the Empyreal Chaos to do it.
*** Empyreal Chaos made the Daystar, the Ebon Dragon made the Unconquered Sun.
**** You're assuming, of course, that Judeo-Christian ideas of God and the history of the universe are infallibly accurate. In a WhiteWolf production, this is a very dangerous position to take.

* Alternatively, and taking a page from Gnosticism, the Unconquered Sun is Jesus and That-Which-Became-Malfeas was the Demiurge.

* ...A succession game of {{Dwarf Fortress}}

[[WMG: Malfeas is actually Divis Mal, VillainSue of {{Aberrant}} fame.]]

[[WMG: Autocthon framed [[spoiler:Nox]].]]

Conclusion: Autocthon knew ahead of time that the [[spoiler:Nocturnals]] would be hidden. Since the [[spoiler:Heralds]] could not easily fulfill their function if no one knew about them, he would not have built that feature into the [[spoiler:Adamant Caste]] unless he knew that [[spoiler:Nox]] would be forced to hide himself from Fate.

Of course, the easiest way for Autocthon to know that would be if he had planned to have [[spoiler:Nox]] imprisoned in the Loom.

The Shinma are basically physical laws of overarching concepts that define The World of Exalted. Before the Exalted slew the Primordials, nothing was ever destroyed. When they did, the Slain Primordials became a paradox. Their essence couldn't be reabsorbed into Lethe, as that was designed for specifically for Creation's mortals. They couldn't be reabsorbed into the Wyld, because they were in Creation or Yu-Shan. So a new Shinma was introduced so the laws that govern The World of Exalted would still fit the reality. Perhaps the Shinma of sparation recognized Destruction then.

The Shinma are basically physical laws of overarching concepts that define The World of Exalted. Before the Exalted slew the Primordials, nothing was ever destroyed. When they did, the Slain Primordials became a paradox. They're essence couldn't be reabsorbed into Lethe, as that was designed for specifically for Creation's mortals. They couldn't be reabsorbed into the Wyld, because they were in Creation or Yu-Shan. So a new Shinma was introduced so the laws that govern The World of Exalted would still fit the reality. Perhaps the Shinma of sparation recognized Destruction then.

[[WMG: The Perfect of Paragon is a Sideral.]]

Alchemy is Exaltation, and its return to the world via the Elemental Lighthouses and the Golden Sun (!!!) is the last stage of a XanatosGambit designed to grant its power equally to all mortals, rather than a small, powerful elite that would be tempted to abuse their power over un-Exalted mortals. The long period of being "sealed away" was to give new cultures completely independent of Exalted rulers a chance to develop--in other words, the Thousand Streams River, minus Lunar supervision. The dependence of Weyard upon Alchemy, and the absence of gods, is explained by the gods either having left to facilitate this plan, or having been absorbed into the mass of Exaltation before its being sealed away; this made Alchemy the only source of divine power left in the world, and explains why the world has been wasting away in its absence. The Imperial Mountain is, of course, Mount Aleph. Finally, the various elemental Adept tribes are the last remnants of Terrestrial Exaltation, which, as an inheritable trait, couldn't be completely removed from those bloodlines.

[[WMG: The world of GirlGenius is a distant future of creation.]]

[[WMG: The [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Angelic Days-verse version of Kaworu]] is a Sidereal. Most likely, Chosen of Secrets.]]

[[WMG: [[{{Lost}} The Island]] is a Primordial that ran away during the war]]

** So... that makes Malfeas the [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Anti-Spiral King?]] I'm okay with this.

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** The shinma ''don't work like that''. They define something by being its opposite, like Nirguna who defines existence by not existing. So a shinma of 'things can cease to exist'(which is what a 'Shinma of Annihilation' would be) would define ceasing to exist by being impossible to make cease to exist. Oblivion may be an ''aspect'' of said Shinma, just as Nishkriya's aspects are weapons, but it can't be a shinma of annihilation.

That would be fucking awesome

[[WMG: The {{Discworld}} is located out in the Wyld somewhere.]]

* The only problem I can see with this is that Wood and Earth have somehow been combined into a single element. Though that might provide another explanation for the dependence on Alchemy; with two elements merged, Creation became unstable.

* ...''{{Exalted}}'' [[ShapedLikeItself itself]].

* ...Dungeons And Dragons.
* ...Mortal Kombat.

[[WMG: The {{Breath of Fire}} setting exists in the future of Exalted]]

The Jade Pleasuredome has special dream-projecting machines, that record, store, and replay the experiences of everyone in the dome. The Games of Divinity are actually some kind of fun but simple activity. When the Incarnae first tried it, the sheer orgasmic feedback channeled mixed with the high hopes of the Incarnae mixed, and the Games have been a legend of lies ever since.

It manipulated the Primordials into making the gods, it manipulated the gods into making the Exalted, it manipulated the Sidereals into betraying the Solars, its manipulating the Solars into taking the Realm back...''All'' of it. Evidence? Look at the initials. '''G.O.D.''' There is truly a supreme being/biggest fish, and it is the Glorious Golden Gameboy.

After successfully maneuvering the great houses into giving him the throne, he realized that the only way he'd be allowed to keep it is if he pulls a [[Webcomic/OrderOfTheStick Shojo Gambit]] on everyone. This possibility is acknowledged in ''Compass of Celestial Directions Part I: The Blessed Isle''.

Someone here help, I got this idea from the PoisonOakEpilepticTrees page where someone said TV Tropes is an EldritchAbomination and it just ''fit.''

* ....[[GreyAndGrayMorality I thought this was canon.]] Truth is, from everything that can be ascertained, the Primordials were uncaring, not cruel. Taking apart the Clay Man to see how he worked and to torment Autocthon was sort of like the cool kids stealing the creepy nerd's favorite action figure and looking at the inside before putting it back together haphazardly from their perspective. Jerky, but not evil. As mentioned in the Character Sheet, the Yozis only really became bitter and malevolent after their imprisonment for things they couldn't understand. The part about the Sun is wrong, though; ''Compass of Celestial Directions: Autocthonia'' makes it clear he thought the Primordials were being callous based on the ambivalent attitude they had towards humans and Dragon Kings.