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* To complete [[RuleOfThree a trinity]], SquareEnix joined 3D Realms and Blizzard five years ago with the announcement of Final Fantasy XIII Versus, which will likely take just as much time to finish as DNF. Just to make sure vaporware is downplayed across the globe, instead of just in western markets.

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* To complete [[RuleOfThree a trinity]], SquareEnix Creator/SquareEnix joined 3D Realms and Blizzard five years ago with the announcement of Final Fantasy XIII Versus, which will likely take just as much time to finish as DNF. Just to make sure vaporware is downplayed across the globe, instead of just in western markets.
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Think about it: the third game was ''3''D; the fourth was ''4ever''; if the trend of bad puns is to continue, the fifth game has got to play off "OneTwoThreeFourGo". Besides, [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse everything's]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter better]] [[InstantAwesomeJustAddNinja with]] [[EverythingsBetterWithSamurai Japan]] and the land is full of babes yet to be... saved by Duke.

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Think about it: the third game was ''3''D; the fourth was ''4ever''; if the trend of bad puns is to continue, the fifth game has got to play off "OneTwoThreeFourGo". Besides, [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse everything's]] [[KatanasAreJustBetter better]] [[InstantAwesomeJustAddNinja [[GratuitousNinja with]] [[EverythingsBetterWithSamurai Japan]] and the land is full of babes yet to be... saved by Duke.
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* Googling '''bombshell "duke nukem's sister"''' gives you 56 results.
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Possibly (relating to the guesses above) genetically engineered by Doctor Proton as well. The clues are in some 1998/99 interviews with George Broussard, where he states that Bombshell "is not attracted by Duke, so he '''assumes''' she is a lesbian". He '''assumes''', which means there might be another reason. In another interview, George says that Bombshell is "involved in few plot surprises", and the easiest way to have a "plot surprise" with a new character is to make them related to the main character.

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Possibly (relating to the guesses above) genetically engineered by Doctor Proton as well. The clues are in some 1998/99 interviews with George Broussard, where he states that Bombshell "is not attracted by Duke, so he '''assumes''' she is a lesbian". He '''assumes''', which means there might be another reason. In another interview, George says that Bombshell is "involved in a few plot surprises", and the easiest way to have a "plot surprise" with a new character is to make them related to the main character.
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[[WMG: Bombshell would have been revealed to be Duke's sister.]]
Possibly (relating to the guesses above) genetically engineered by Doctor Proton as well. The clues are in some 1998/99 interviews with George Broussard, where he states that Bombshell "is not attracted by Duke, so he '''assumes''' she is a lesbian". He '''assumes''', which means there might be another reason. In another interview, George says that Bombshell is "involved in few plot surprises", and the easiest way to have a "plot surprise" with a new character is to make them related to the main character.
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** Jossed by the existence of the Expander in ''The Doctor Who Cloned Me''.
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It was posed in the form of a challenge ("You can't even tell a Planck length from a pluton") and used to tell a Duke clone from the real Duke. It's possible that, being created by Doctor Proton, Duke clones would know exactly what those things are, so they would fall for the challenge and reply with scientifically accurate definitions. The real Duke, instead, has no scientific background whatsoever (he doesn't even realize that his answer, [[GeniusBonus "I got your Planck length right here"]], basically means [[HilariousInHindsight he has a microscopic penis]]), which let Dr. Valencia tell he wasn't a clone.

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It was posed in the form of a challenge ("You can't even tell a Planck length from a pluton") and used to tell a Duke clone from the real Duke. It's possible that, being created by Doctor Proton, Duke clones would know exactly what those things are, so they would fall for the challenge and reply with scientifically accurate definitions. The real Duke, instead, has no scientific background whatsoever (he doesn't even realize that his answer, [[GeniusBonus [[HilariousInHindsight "I got your Planck length right here"]], basically means [[HilariousInHindsight [[GeniusBonus he has a microscopic penis]]), which let Dr. Valencia tell he wasn't a clone.

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* This would also explain why Duke doesn't comment that, after ripping Doctor Proton's head off, it cannot be found anywhere. You could very well imagine Doctor Proton saying: "And he really believed that could stop me! Me?! I've enhanced my body with bionics from head to feet! All eight of them. So as soon as that dolt turned around, I've used the mobility module in my cranium to leave the scene and reach the closest replacement body. And he never noticed!"


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* This could tie in with the previous guess - Doctor Proton narrating the events and saying: "So guess what that dunce said! 'I've got your Planck length right here!', he said! I wish someone was there to tell him what that meant, I'm sure his reaction would have been priceless!"
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It was posed in the form of a challenge ("You can't even tell a Planck length from a pluton") and used to tell a Duke clone from the real Duke. It's possible that, being created by Doctor Proton, Duke clones would know exactly what those things are, so they would fall for the challenge and reply with scientifically accurate definitions. The real Duke, instead, has no scientific background whatsoever (he doesn't even realize that his answer, "I got your Planck length right here", basically means he has a microscopic penis), which let Dr. Valencia tell he wasn't a clone.

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It was posed in the form of a challenge ("You can't even tell a Planck length from a pluton") and used to tell a Duke clone from the real Duke. It's possible that, being created by Doctor Proton, Duke clones would know exactly what those things are, so they would fall for the challenge and reply with scientifically accurate definitions. The real Duke, instead, has no scientific background whatsoever (he doesn't even realize that his answer, [[GeniusBonus "I got your Planck length right here", here"]], basically means [[HilariousInHindsight he has a microscopic penis), penis]]), which let Dr. Valencia tell he wasn't a clone.
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[[WMG: Doctor Valencia's question about the Planck length and the pluton was a BatmanGambit.]]

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[[WMG: Doctor Valencia's question about the Planck length and the pluton was a BatmanGambit.an attempt to BluffTheImpostor.]]
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[[WMG: Doctor Valencia's question about the Planck length and the pluton was a BatmanGambit.]]
It was posed in the form of a challenge ("You can't even tell a Planck length from a pluton") and used to tell a Duke clone from the real Duke. It's possible that, being created by Doctor Proton, Duke clones would know exactly what those things are, so they would fall for the challenge and reply with scientifically accurate definitions. The real Duke, instead, has no scientific background whatsoever (he doesn't even realize that his answer, "I got your Planck length right here", basically means he has a microscopic penis), which let Dr. Valencia tell he wasn't a clone.
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* Evidence #1: the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-b78TKZIyw narrating voice in the reveal trailer]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhBrAd_TXE Doctor Proton's voice in the [=DLC=] trailer are identical.

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* Evidence #1: the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-b78TKZIyw narrating voice in the reveal trailer]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhBrAd_TXE Doctor Proton's voice in the [=DLC=] trailer trailer]] are identical.
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[[WMG: Duke Nukem is a douchebag in the game because, in universe, the game is a report of events being narrated by Doctor Proton.]]
* Evidence #1: the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-b78TKZIyw narrating voice in the reveal trailer]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhBrAd_TXE Doctor Proton's voice in the [=DLC=] trailer are identical.
* Evidence #2: while Duke often acts as a douchebag, Doctor Proton is shown to be smart, competent, dangerous, and all around a better developed character than Duke himself.
So that's why the game shows the protagonist as one-dimensional and douchy, and the antagonist as accultured and threatening! Doctor Proton is tooting his own horn, because he is the one telling the story!
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* For bonus points, he should fight [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] [[NaughtyTentacles abominations]] there.

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* For bonus points, he should fight [[EldritchAbomination eldritch]] [[NaughtyTentacles abominations]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s there.
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[[WMG: Duke was supposed to fight a Battlelord three times instead of two, but the third fight has been DummiedOut]]
At the end of the first fight with the Battlelord, Duke rips out one of its horns and sticks it into its left eye.

During the second fight, he does the same thing, but then the Battlelord gets up again until Duke brings its energy back to zero, rips out another horn and sticks it into the other eye.

But a Battlelord has ''three'' horns, which means we never see Duke rip out all three of them. This, as well as a peculiar line from [[PluckyComicRelief Captain Dylan]] during the second fight, lets us guess that Duke was supposed to meet and fight a third Battlelord, which would have ended up with all three horns ripped off. Captain Dylan's line, which was originally supposed to be pronounced during the third fight, lets us guess what Duke would have done with the third horn: "Come on, rip out his horn and [[AssShove shove it up his asshole]]!"
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DNF is on the 2011 calender, but MP3 is not.

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DNF is on the 2011 calender, but MP3 MaxPayne3 is not.
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* An alternative interpretation of evidence #3: that was not the real Duke making the speech. It was a clone, just like the one backstage. The real Duke crashed somewhere in the desert with the [=EDF=] air transport when the nuke went off at Hoover Dam, and he was taken to Area 51 while unconscious.
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* the intro (allegedly summarizing the events of DukeNukem3D) shows a missile launch that never took place in that game, in a location that looks very much like that screenshot

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* the intro (allegedly summarizing the events of DukeNukem3D) VideoGame/DukeNukem3D) shows a missile launch that never took place in that game, in a location that looks very much like that screenshot
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[[WMG: Another of Duke's powers is recovering from alcohol extra quickly, and the "beer" in the game is actually extra powerful.]]
First, note that even though Duke gets drunk from a single beer, he returns to sobriety in under a minute, meaning he must be extra resistant to alcohol. But then why does he get drunk from a single beer? It must be some kind of super-alcohol that manages to make even Duke drunk (and even then, he's only slightly tipsy) and would probably kill any normal man.
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Related to the previous guess:
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Not necessarily in the natural sense, if Duke is the result of a supersoldier program, but Doctor Proton might have been the original leader of the supersoldier program, and he might have used his [=DNA=] as the starting point to create Duke. This would explain how he was able to take over Area 51: because he used to legitimately work there. During Duke's childhood, Doctor Proton might have looked after Duke (who probably lived in Area 51 among scientists) and might even have felt fatherly love for him (which would explain why Doctor Proton proclaims to "bestow love" onto Duke's robotic clones). Probably, he was looking forward to the day Duke would agree to [[WeCanRuleTogether take over the world with him]], except that Duke refused. That would explain why Doctor Proton now hates Duke: because Duke was his greatest hope and turned out to be his greatest disappointment. On the contrary, he still "loves" the robotic clones because they cannot disobey him. Duke is unaware of all this (he probably does not relate the man who used to be his father with the current form of Doctor Proton), but in one of the next games, Doctor Proton will tell him: "[[LukeIAmYourFather Duke, I am your father!]]

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Not necessarily in the natural sense, if Duke is the result of a supersoldier program, but Doctor Proton might have been the original leader of the supersoldier program, and he might have used his [=DNA=] as the starting point to create Duke. This would explain how he was able to take over Area 51: because he used to legitimately work there. During Duke's childhood, Doctor Proton might have looked after Duke (who probably lived in Area 51 among scientists) and might even have felt fatherly love for him (which would explain why Doctor Proton proclaims claims to "bestow love" onto Duke's robotic clones). Probably, he was looking forward to the day Duke would agree to [[WeCanRuleTogether take over the world with him]], except that Duke refused. That would explain why Doctor Proton now hates Duke: because Duke was his greatest hope and turned out to be his greatest disappointment. On the contrary, he still "loves" the robotic clones because they cannot disobey him. Duke is unaware of all this (he probably does not relate the man who used to be his father with the current form of Doctor Proton), but in one of the next games, Doctor Proton will tell him: proclaim: "[[LukeIAmYourFather Duke, I am your father!]]
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Not necessarily in the natural sense, if Duke is the result of a supersoldier program, but Doctor Proton might have been the original leader of the supersoldier program, and he might have used his [=DNA=] as the starting point to create Duke. This would explain how he was able to take over Area 51: because he used to legitimately work there. During Duke's childhood, Doctor Proton might have looked after Duke (who probably lived in Area 51 among scientists) and might even have felt fatherly love for him (which would explain why Doctor Proton proclaims to "bestow love" onto Duke's robotic clones). Probably, he was looking forward to the day Duke would agree to [[WeCanRuleTogether take over the world with him]], except that he refused. That would explain why Doctor Proton now hates Duke: because Duke was his greatest hope and turned out to be his greatest disappointment. On the contrary, he still "loves" the robotic clones because they cannot disobey him. Duke is unaware of all this (he probably does not relate the man who used to be his father with the current form of Doctor Proton), but in one of the next games, Doctor Proton will tell him: "[[LukeIAmYourFather Duke, I am your father!]]

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Not necessarily in the natural sense, if Duke is the result of a supersoldier program, but Doctor Proton might have been the original leader of the supersoldier program, and he might have used his [=DNA=] as the starting point to create Duke. This would explain how he was able to take over Area 51: because he used to legitimately work there. During Duke's childhood, Doctor Proton might have looked after Duke (who probably lived in Area 51 among scientists) and might even have felt fatherly love for him (which would explain why Doctor Proton proclaims to "bestow love" onto Duke's robotic clones). Probably, he was looking forward to the day Duke would agree to [[WeCanRuleTogether take over the world with him]], except that he Duke refused. That would explain why Doctor Proton now hates Duke: because Duke was his greatest hope and turned out to be his greatest disappointment. On the contrary, he still "loves" the robotic clones because they cannot disobey him. Duke is unaware of all this (he probably does not relate the man who used to be his father with the current form of Doctor Proton), but in one of the next games, Doctor Proton will tell him: "[[LukeIAmYourFather Duke, I am your father!]]
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[[WMG: Doctor Proton is Duke Nukem's father.]]
Not necessarily in the natural sense, if Duke is the result of a supersoldier program, but Doctor Proton might have been the original leader of the supersoldier program, and he might have used his [=DNA=] as the starting point to create Duke. This would explain how he was able to take over Area 51: because he used to legitimately work there. During Duke's childhood, Doctor Proton might have looked after Duke (who probably lived in Area 51 among scientists) and might even have felt fatherly love for him (which would explain why Doctor Proton proclaims to "bestow love" onto Duke's robotic clones). Probably, he was looking forward to the day Duke would agree to [[WeCanRuleTogether take over the world with him]], except that he refused. That would explain why Doctor Proton now hates Duke: because Duke was his greatest hope and turned out to be his greatest disappointment. On the contrary, he still "loves" the robotic clones because they cannot disobey him. Duke is unaware of all this (he probably does not relate the man who used to be his father with the current form of Doctor Proton), but in one of the next games, Doctor Proton will tell him: "[[LukeIAmYourFather Duke, I am your father!]]
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*** As a further corollary to this guess: Dylan is the result of EDF experimenting their supersoldier program on a mentally disabled person. The results were disappointing: while he did, in fact, become stronger and more confident, his intelligence did not increase one bit, which is evident from the way he talks (he also admits that he used to ride a short bus). A low IQ also caused his ego-based healing factor to be so slow, because he takes more time to thoroughly understand what is happening around him as well as to understand when he is no longer in immediate danger.
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* In a way, confirmed. At least the PC version supports stereoscopic 3D, which can be displayed with head-mounted displays.

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* In a way, confirmed. At least the The PC version supports stereoscopic 3D, which can be displayed with head-mounted displays.
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Tile 4484 in VideoGame/DukeNukem3D (Atomic Edition) shows the text "Ultimate warrior", with a picture of Duke detailing his brain, skin layer, cells and DNA. This is a clue that Duke has been genetically engineered to be the ultimate warrior and actually possesses a [[XMen Wolverine]]-like healing factor. This only appeared in VideoGame/DukeNukemLandOfTheBabes and subsequent games due to LiteraryAgentHypothesis.

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Tile 4484 in VideoGame/DukeNukem3D (Atomic Edition) shows the text "Ultimate warrior", with a picture of Duke detailing his brain, skin layer, cells and DNA. This is a clue that Duke has been genetically engineered to be the ultimate warrior and actually possesses a [[XMen Wolverine]]-like {{Wolverine}}-like healing factor. This only appeared in VideoGame/DukeNukemLandOfTheBabes and subsequent games due to LiteraryAgentHypothesis.
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* The principal player in this scheme, after 3D Realms, is Blizzard. See: ''{{Diablo}} II'', ''{{Starcraft}}'', ''Starcraft: Ghost'', ''Starcraft II'', ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} Adventures'', etc. etc.

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* The principal player in this scheme, after 3D Realms, is Blizzard. See: ''{{Diablo}} ''{{VideoGame/Diablo}} II'', ''{{Starcraft}}'', ''Starcraft: Ghost'', ''Starcraft II'', ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} Adventures'', etc. etc.
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This makes it possible to infer that that screenshot shows the launch of the very nuke that hits the dam in the game, which would have had the same ending, done differently. Duke Nukem (or General Graves) would have realized that they could not win at the Hoover Dam, so they would have reached Area 51 and would have nuked the Hoover Dam from there.

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This makes it possible to infer that that screenshot shows the launch of the very nuke that hits the dam in the game, which would have had the same ending, done differently. Duke Nukem (or General Graves) would have realized that they could not win at the Hoover Dam, so they would have reached Area 51 and would have nuked the Hoover Dam from there.
there. The location was subsequently remade with more detailed graphics and finally scrapped from the plot of the game, but shown anyway in the intro as a tribute to the history of the game.
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[[WMG: WhatCouldHaveBeen: in 1999, the game was supposed to end with Duke launching a nuclear missile to the Hoover Dam from Area 51]]
For years before its release, we have known what locations would be seen in the game, and we were able to make an educated guess about the order in which the locations would be visited. Namely: Casino inside -> streets of Vegas -> desert -> Hoover Dam -> Area 51. [[http://www.duke4.net/images/screenshots/old/9.jpg This]] 1999 screenshot is set inside a launch facility, which we can infer to be part of Area 51 (the only military base in the game), and shows a missile being launched. The final game had nothing of the sort, except that:
* the intro (allegedly summarizing the events of DukeNukem3D) shows a missile launch that never took place in that game, in a location that looks very much like that screenshot
* in the end of the main game, a nuclear missile destroys the Hoover Dam
This makes it possible to infer that that screenshot shows the launch of the very nuke that hits the dam in the game, which would have had the same ending, done differently. Duke Nukem (or General Graves) would have realized that they could not win at the Hoover Dam, so they would have reached Area 51 and would have nuked the Hoover Dam from there.
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[[WMG: The game is a Time Lord]]
The reason that there were so many different iterations of it over the years is that it was regenerating.

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